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With big money coming in to Bitcoin now, plus China, I think a $300/$400 price tag is quite reasonable.

Most importantly, public perception is much different than 6 months ago.  Bitcoin is no longer viewed as "the popped bubble" that clearly was a scam and dismissible.  Bitcoin has surpassed the previous "bubble pop" in under 1 year.  The technology is actually taken more seriously.  People are taking the time to actually understand Bitcoin.  This is easily observable in just the media's presentation of Bitcoin over the past few weeks.  It's hard to think of a more powerful and motivating outcome, than something that fully recovers and surpassed a previous ATH in such little time.  That is a serious statement to people on the outside.  Public perception, when there's so much usage to gain, is most important.  To dismiss it as so insignificant is, I think, a mistake.

Thoughts in context.
sure, this is true, to an extent, but much of this is perception in the context of a bull market. but this is how it should feel in a strong bull market. that's the exuberance. good news is that much better and bad news is that much less important.

.....until reversal.

Good luck locating a reversal.  Here are some random possibilities:

- Up to $440, crash to $150s, settle at $250
- Up to $2400, crash to $600, settle at $900
- Up to $500, sit in $400s for 3 months...?

- etc etc ....

We could be no where near a peak, and you haven't provided any quantitative evidence to suggest this is the peak.  

I'm holding long term anyway, so I could care less about when/where the "peak" is, and to what level panic sellers may, at any moment, temporarily crash the market to.  You probably shouldn't be investing in BTC though if you're constantly haunted by thoughts of crashing markets.  That can't be healthy.
re peaks, i made no such suggestions. are you talking to me? constantly haunted?

i was just talking about perceptions of the market. specifically, how people perceive the landscape in a bull market. it doesn't look so rosy when we see a real correction. when will we see it? i am not speculating about that so much. i was just talking about how the quote above is verging on "new paradigm" talk, which is only natural in a strong bull market. but that's why i take that thinking with a grain of salt.

sure, it's true, but people are vastly overstating the speed at which the BTC infrastructure and economy is maturing. because they want to explain a 600-700% price gain over a few months.

i am not worried about btc crash, haha...  Cheesy
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legendary
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With big money coming in to Bitcoin now, plus China, I think a $300/$400 price tag is quite reasonable.

Most importantly, public perception is much different than 6 months ago.  Bitcoin is no longer viewed as "the popped bubble" that clearly was a scam and dismissible.  Bitcoin has surpassed the previous "bubble pop" in under 1 year.  The technology is actually taken more seriously.  People are taking the time to actually understand Bitcoin.  This is easily observable in just the media's presentation of Bitcoin over the past few weeks.  It's hard to think of a more powerful and motivating outcome, than something that fully recovers and surpassed a previous ATH in such little time.  That is a serious statement to people on the outside.  Public perception, when there's so much usage to gain, is most important.  To dismiss it as so insignificant is, I think, a mistake.

Thoughts in context.
sure, this is true, to an extent, but much of this is perception in the context of a bull market. but this is how it should feel in a strong bull market. that's the exuberance. good news is that much better and bad news is that much less important.

.....until reversal.

Good luck locating a reversal.  Here are some random possibilities:

- Up to $440, crash to $150s, settle at $250
- Up to $2400, crash to $600, settle at $900
- Up to $500, sit in $400s for 3 months...?

- etc etc ....

We could be no where near a peak, and you haven't provided any quantitative evidence to suggest this is the peak.  In April, didn't we go from like $30 to $266 (almost a 10x increase)?

I'm holding long term anyway, so I could care less about when/where the "peak" is, and to what level panic sellers may, at any moment, temporarily crash the market to.  I've occasionally taken a long position when I felt we've panic dipped further than expected, but that's about it.  You (not necessarily you specifically) probably shouldn't be investing in BTC though if you're constantly haunted by thoughts of crashing markets.  That can't be healthy.
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ManualMiner
Seems like a nice level to take a breather.  
$500 (gox) in the next 2 days !   Wink

did you read the CB blog today?~looks like some nice developments underway..barriers to regular folks buying in falling= greater acceptace it looks like!  Grin i'm going to actually try to buy some off there just for the hell of it!*sounds legit!>>jmho<<

CB blog? Which blog is this?

great Smiley
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When are the US senate hearings again?
sr. member
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With big money coming in to Bitcoin now, plus China, I think a $300/$400 price tag is quite reasonable.

Most importantly, public perception is much different than 6 months ago.  Bitcoin is no longer viewed as "the popped bubble" that clearly was a scam and dismissible.  Bitcoin has surpassed the previous "bubble pop" in under 1 year.  The technology is actually taken more seriously.  People are taking the time to actually understand Bitcoin.  This is easily observable in just the media's presentation of Bitcoin over the past few weeks.  It's hard to think of a more powerful and motivating outcome, than something that fully recovers and surpassed a previous ATH in such little time.  That is a serious statement to people on the outside.  Public perception, when there's so much usage to gain, is most important.  To dismiss it as so insignificant is, I think, a mistake.

Thoughts in context.
sure, this is true, to an extent, but much of this is perception in the context of a bull market. but this is how it should feel in a strong bull market. that's the exuberance. good news is that much better and bad news is that much less important.

.....until reversal.
legendary
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get your fiat ready. Smiley

during SR flash crash 35 k coins were dumped in a matter of seconds.
legendary
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1RichyTrEwPYjZSeAYxeiFBNnKC9UjC5k

What time is it in China right now, anyway? I'd say middle of the day?

FWIW, ChartBuddy has included BJS time (Beijing airport) since forever.
legendary
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With big money coming in to Bitcoin now, plus China, I think a $300/$400 price tag is quite reasonable.

Most importantly, public perception is much different than 6 months ago.  Bitcoin is no longer viewed as "the popped bubble" that clearly was a scam and dismissible.  Bitcoin has surpassed the previous "bubble pop" in under 1 year.  The technology is actually taken more seriously.  People are taking the time to actually understand Bitcoin.  This is easily observable in just the media's presentation of Bitcoin over the past few weeks.  It's hard to think of a more powerful and motivating outcome, than something that fully recovers and surpassed a previous ATH, post-devastating crash, in such little time.  That is a serious statement to people on the outside.  Public perception, when there's so much usage to gain, is most important.  To dismiss it as so insignificant is, I think, a mistake.

Thoughts in context.
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https://youengine.io/
I feel a great disturbance in the force.

I'm calling a top here (or very close to where we are now). All that noise about the greenlisting stuff and the fact that even people like Mike Hearn seem to have turned to the dark side is making people increasingly nervous. There will be a huge correction. There will be blood. In order to maximize my profit from the initial shock I'm now increasing the rebalancing threshold of my balancer bot from 11% to 30%.
hero member
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How or where do you generate these 3D orderbook history charts?

Custom written code.

It's beautiful.  I'd love to see that, but the last 12 months of data instead.  Can you do that?
legendary
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Like April? WHAT? In April the price hit $266 and immediately started tanking, lag went crazy and caused more fear and lag selling. The price dropped to like 70 in 3 hours. We've been at $400-$440 for over 24 hours now. Nothing like April.

You should not expect a similar repeat of last bubble, the trend reverse may be more subtle this time,whales suddenly starts red fireworks out of voodoo TA.

I'm not, I was just pointing out that 400+ has in no way behaved like 266 thus far.

I think any of the big dumps in the past few days on the exchanges would have caused a panic sell like April if there was not enough support for the price.  We are at the base of an S-curve.  Everyone should be studying exponential growth to get an idea of where we are headed and to get an understanding of why it is increasing so fast.  The more people that find out about Bitcoin the faster the price will rise.  It is common with any new technology adoption.  If we think this is crazy, next year will be even crazier I believe.  Sure, there will be a few bumps in the road here and there but we will never see anything below $100 again at this point.  I would even venture to say that now that we have "stabilized" a bit here in the $400 range for a few days that the $200s are gone for the most part.  Maybe there will be a day when it dips down for a few minutes but those coins will be bought so fast that it will be hard to catch them.  Just my thoughts.

Yup, would BJ a hobo to get them that cheap.
hero member
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so lets wait for some more news like "hot dog stand in washington accepts bitcoins" and the next rally begins Smiley

So that's what's driving this rally!

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/so-i-got-a-hotdog-stand-accepting-bitcoin-at-the-school-trade-fair-321800

Oh, shit son, there it is!  
/get up
/slam door
/peace out
legendary
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Seems like a nice level to take a breather.  
$500 (gox) in the next 2 days !   Wink

did you read the CB blog today?~looks like some nice developments underway..barriers to regular folks buying in falling= greater acceptace it looks like!  Grin i'm going to actually try to buy some off there just for the hell of it!*sounds legit!>>jmho<<

CB blog? Which blog is this?
legendary
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so lets wait for some more news like "hot dog stand in washington accepts bitcoins" and the next rally begins Smiley

So that's what's driving this rally!

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/so-i-got-a-hotdog-stand-accepting-bitcoin-at-the-school-trade-fair-321800
hero member
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My impression is that selling now isn't as dangerous as it was weeks ago. Were definitely crashing into the 300s at some point - the question is when and from how high.

Definitely.  Not a word in an investor's vocab.  

We're not definitely or obviously doing anything.

+1
legendary
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Like April? WHAT? In April the price hit $266 and immediately started tanking, lag went crazy and caused more fear and lag selling. The price dropped to like 70 in 3 hours. We've been at $400-$440 for over 24 hours now. Nothing like April.

You should not expect a similar repeat of last bubble, the trend reverse may be more subtle this time,whales suddenly starts red fireworks out of voodoo TA.

I'm not, I was just pointing out that 400+ has in no way behaved like 266 thus far.

I think any of the big dumps in the past few days on the exchanges would have caused a panic sell like April if there was not enough support for the price.  We are at the base of an S-curve.  Everyone should be studying exponential growth to get an idea of where we are headed and to get an understanding of why it is increasing so fast.  The more people that find out about Bitcoin the faster the price will rise.  It is common with any new technology adoption.  If we think this is crazy, next year will be even crazier I believe.  Sure, there will be a few bumps in the road here and there but we will never see anything below $100 again at this point.  I would even venture to say that now that we have "stabilized" a bit here in the $400 range for a few days that the $200s are gone for the most part.  Maybe there will be a day when it dips down for a few minutes but those coins will be bought so fast that it will be hard to catch them.  Just my thoughts.
sr. member
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why so complicated?

new buyers came into the market because of the recent press coverage, it rocketed a while. now that the newbies are done, the sells begin. next hype will come earlier than the last because this time no one was was frightened by a sharp drop this time.

so lets wait for some more news like "hot dog stand in washington accepts bitcoins" and the next rally begins Smiley

Many places accept bitcoin, especially in big cities.
legendary
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My impression is that selling now isn't as dangerous as it was weeks ago. Were definitely crashing into the 300s at some point - the question is when and from how high.

Definitely.  Not a word in an investor's vocab.  

We're not definitely or obviously doing anything.
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