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Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 32018. (Read 26608282 times)

legendary
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Overall sentiment is changing in a bearish direction, very quickly all over this forum.  From people expecting a crash from rising too fast, to Mike Hearns, Coin Validation, etc.  The writing is on the wall. All it takes is for a whale or two to want to be first to take some profits.  In times like these, in USD I trust.   Wink

It seems you are really a dollarseeker, not a coinseeker.

It's all fiat. 
What law in what country says that someone wholly or partly has to use bitcoin?
legendary
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This is a good sign.

Bitcoin is taken seriously and they are already thinking about possible regulation!
Just to make sure that when this industry takes off the US will be part of it and not lagging behind!


They are soft now, but that is only because they don't know. It is possible they will impede bitcoin usage or even briefly forbid it, but as we know, this does not effect the price.
hero member
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http://www.banking.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Hearings.Hearing&Hearing_ID=955322cc-d648-4a00-a41f-c23be8ff4cad

Tuesday, November 19, 2013
03:30 PM - 05:30 AM

Is that a typo or what? Or do they actually hold hearings through the night until 5:30 in the morning?
legendary
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Someone (with a crystal ball) tell me what's going to happen price-wise on stamp over the next 5 hours. Is China still pushing the price up ? I don't see that kind of movement just yet, but anyway it's 5 AM on a Friday morning over there.

My new crystal-rubber keynesian ball is in for repair (it bulges out some places, but generally seems to have shrunk), but my hundred year old austrian one is still round and shiny. To the question, it says "in the short horizon, I don't know, but long term, to da moon".
full member
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All the bears, who didn't catch the train at 350 or less, are now building a narrative of a 'big risk' of the goverment shutting down Bitcoin, as if it was feasible. My guess is absolutely nothing will happen from government side as a result of the hearing. Politics and law-making takes time, and everyday the Bitcoin-infrastucture and knowledge is growing. No politicians will want to attempt shutting down Bitcoin as it would be widely covered (resulting in bad PR), and there really is no legimate reason for trying to do so. + they would likely fail.

So, there is no scenario where politicians claim Bitcoin is used for terror and it's 'game over'. What a ridiculous claim.
legendary
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yes
It's important to reconcile the scopes of perception here, considering that most of these scopes cannot see the other:

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Peace out folks, and don't forget to set your bitcoinreminders (.com).


Thanks for your beautiful summary  Cheesy
full member
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Given all the shadiness and risk involved with much of the current crop of bitcoin businesses, I'm sure a little consumer protection can't hurt. There's a large distance between regulation and prohibition.
legendary
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RUM AND CARROTS: A PIRATE LIFE FOR ME

Fascinating!

The question is- when does your virtual currency become a real virtual currency? For example- if I create Bannana Coin a fork of random-alt-coin and I run a php exchange, does that mean I have to register for some sort of license? Seems funny that you could just POOF claim to have a new virtual currency and suddenly you have to be money transmitter.
sr. member
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Overall sentiment is changing in a bearish direction, very quickly all over this forum.  From people expecting a crash from rising too fast, to Mike Hearns, Coin Validation, etc.  The writing is on the wall. All it takes is for a whale or two to want to be first to take some profits.  In times like these, in USD I trust.   Wink

It seems you are really a dollarseeker, not a coinseeker.

It's all fiat. 
legendary
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This is a good sign.

Bitcoin is taken seriously and they are already thinking about possible regulation!
Just to make sure that when this industry takes off the US will be part of it and not lagging behind!


+ 1

Like it or not, regulation is what's going to take bitcoin mainstream, and is therefore, very bullish.

Hmm... Yes, but this is the Department of Financial Services of New York and...


The New York Stock Exchange, located on Wall Street, and the NASDAQ are the world's first and second largest stock exchanges, respectively, when measured by average daily trading volume and overall market capitalization.[21]

Financial services account for more than 35 percent of the city's employment income.[22]

New York City has been a leading center of finance in the world economy since the end of World War I.[23]

 As of August, 2008 the city's financial services industry employs 344,700 workers.[24]



Manhattan is home to six major stock, commodities and futures exchanges:

American Stock Exchange, International Securities Exchange, NASDAQ, New York Board of Trade, New York Mercantile Exchange, and New York Stock Exchange.

This contributes to New York City being a major financial service exporter, both within the United States and globally.

The 344,700 workers in the finance industry collect more than half of all the wages paid in Manhattan, although they hold fewer than one of every six jobs in the borough.

The pay gap between them and the 1.5 million other workers in Manhattan continues to widen, causing some economists to worry about the city’s growing dependence on their extraordinary incomes.

I'd say NYC is probably the one place that has the most to fear from Bitcoin out of all the cities in all the world.  Smiley
newbie
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This is a good sign.

Bitcoin is taken seriously and they are already thinking about possible regulation!
Just to make sure that when this industry takes off the US will be part of it and not lagging behind!


+ 1

Like it or not, regulation is what's going to take bitcoin mainstream, and is therefore, very bullish.

But not before a crash back to single digits? Just spitballin' here.

I don't think it will ever go that low again. The last time it was below $10 was August 2012.
legendary
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Overall sentiment is changing in a bearish direction, very quickly all over this forum.  From people expecting a crash from rising too fast, to Mike Hearns, Coin Validation, etc.  The writing is on the wall. All it takes is for a whale or two to want to be first to take some profits.  In times like these, in USD I trust.   Wink

It seems you are really a dollarseeker, not a coinseeker.
full member
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Mt. Gox is on the fritz again
hero member
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This is a good sign.

Bitcoin is taken seriously and they are already thinking about possible regulation!
Just to make sure that when this industry takes off the US will be part of it and not lagging behind!


+ 1

Like it or not, regulation is what's going to take bitcoin mainstream, and is therefore, very bullish.

But not before a crash back to single digits? Just spitballin' here.
legendary
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Strange, yet attractive.
If this is a speculative thread I might as well speculate a bit as well. So; here it goes:

1. Do you know any better way to dumb "black" money other than bitcoin?
2. Do you know any better way to "exchange" all that fiat inflation pile from the previous decades for a brand new and robust coin system (while no one really cares about?)
3. Do you think you *really* know for sure that bitcoin has a "noble" cause?
4. Do you think JPM and/or the other big fellas "just ignore it"?
5. What are the chances everything we think about bitcoin is *REALLY* wrong?

Well; I'd think again... but then, I'm Greek and I've learned (the hard way) to be a little bit more sceptic the last 5 years... Wink

Good night fellas. The rally will continue (and the cause won't be "noble") Wink
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modest rise to beat previous ath then uncertainty and a drop as we end the weekend
full member
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This is a good sign.

Bitcoin is taken seriously and they are already thinking about possible regulation!
Just to make sure that when this industry takes off the US will be part of it and not lagging behind!


+ 1

Like it or not, regulation is what's going to take bitcoin mainstream, and is therefore, very bullish.
sr. member
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Also, government has said that they do not want to stifle innovation in the realm of digital currencies, which such a thing of course would.

While I agree with the point you're making for the most part, this part of your comment stood out to me.

When the government says something, think the opposite.

Gov't says: "We want to help children learn!" Gov't does: cut education budget
Gov't says: "We don't want to stifle innovation in the realm of digital currencies!" Gov't does: introduce barriers to entry

Ron Swanson moment.

Indeed this is sometimes the case.   If we look at something like prohibition, which is probably a more apt comparison than education, government learned that outlawing some things is counter productive.   Regulation was far more profitable for them.   Time will tell.
maz
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Someone (with a crystal ball) tell me what's going to happen price-wise on stamp over the next 5 hours. Is China still pushing the price up ? I don't see that kind of movement just yet, but anyway it's 5 AM on a Friday morning over there.

Draw your own lines on graphs in mspaint.
sr. member
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Someone (with a crystal ball) tell me what's going to happen price-wise on stamp over the next 5 hours. Is China still pushing the price up ? I don't see that kind of movement just yet, but anyway it's 5 AM on a Friday morning over there.

you can usually tell around 12pm-2pm China Standard time of the day before how the market will react the next day in the US.

The crash over the weekend? Yeah, Chinese had a sell off around that time on Saturday (their time). This was Friday night for the US.
Each bump up in price has been during this time frame. Last night? Price went up. Until 2PM China Standard Time, our high will remain... 420. (see what I did there? Smiley)
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