Author

Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 33253. (Read 26498346 times)

sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
"to be or not to be, that is the bitcoin"
shits getting deep.

Some are holding coins in order to spend them later when it's easier and safer and they can buy the normal things they would buy in their everyday life without a second thought, and without having to change back to fiat... yes that doesn't account for the transactions now, but as merchants accept more and infrastructure develops, if the speculation does drive the price up, I am assuming people will want to spend their (now more valuable) coins... obviously this comment also doesn't have much to do with the transaction volume affecting the price on the exchanges now, but on that subject I will also put forward the idea that it may not have much impact on the exchanges, as day to day purchases of coins to spend coins would be inefficient, I will assume that many people already have large stashes of coins they might spend.... finally also bear in mind that some of the philosophy of bitcoin (for some people, and anecdotally a majority) is not to spend spend spend to drive a consumerist economy. As mentioned before, just because the economy is not full of high volume transactions, doesn't mean it's not living and breathing.

Stream of consciousness waffle here so take it or leave it Shocked
420
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 500
The only reason to go through hassle of getting bitcoin is using silkroad


oh don't get me started



guy's liking the volatiliy?
legendary
Activity: 2352
Merit: 1819
1CBuddyxy4FerT3hzMmi1Jz48ESzRw1ZzZ
hero member
Activity: 826
Merit: 501
in defi we trust
I use a toilet for that... u know... toilet!!!!!!

I know pretty well I stirred a bitbee nest by saying that but don't forget.
Greed will destroy every dream no matter how beautifull it is  , and currently bitcoin is driven by greed.

Unlike many others on forum , I haven't put all my hopes of a wealthy future in bitcoins succes, and thus I can keep a cooler head than most people here.


(1) You made a nonsensical, irrelevant statement about a toilet.
(2) You acknowledged that you said something stupid and someone else responded to it.
(3) You made a nonsensical, irrelevant statement about "greed" that cannot be empirically proven
(4) You made a generality regarding the "hopes" of "others on forum," and used that generality to support some sort of statement about your mood. This is called a "non-sequitur."


Ok, so you replied by saying absolutely nothing. Great job.  Grin Grin Grin

Oh, and this:
Quote from: Miz4r
You're overgeneralizing, you don't know how many people are in it just for their own personal greed and I think you are just guessing based on your biased gut feeling. Bitcoin is driven by many things, and yes greed is a part of that too just like with all innovative technologies. But I think you're underestimating the amount of people who truly care about bitcoin as a technology that could revolutionize our monetary system. I am quite heavily invested into bitcoin, but I'm not at all counting on becoming rich because of it. If that happens to be the case, cool. But most importantly I think a decentralized cryptocurrency is what this world needs right now in the midst of all the economic turmoil.





Yeah , I talk like that when I speak to zealots!
I know pretty much they are like horses with cheekpieces!

Unfortunately I read too many of your post ...

You're one of those guys who believe in thousands of foodler restaurants , hundred of bitpay merchants added daily , and lots of VC, DP , and BBW investing money in bitcoins.

And of course if i show you one of this charts

http://blockchain.info/charts/n-transactions
http://blockchain.info/charts/estimated-transaction-volume-usd

which are in total contradiction of the MASS adoption and people spending more and more bitcoins on different merchandise your gonna go in a denial phase.

Well , good luck with your bitcoin going from currency to commodity or .. collectibles.
sr. member
Activity: 448
Merit: 250
I use a toilet for that... u know... toilet!!!!!!

I know pretty well I stirred a bitbee nest by saying that but don't forget.
Greed will destroy every dream no matter how beautifull it is  , and currently bitcoin is driven by greed.

Unlike many others on forum , I haven't put all my hopes of a wealthy future in bitcoins succes, and thus I can keep a cooler head than most people here.


(1) You made a nonsensical, irrelevant statement about a toilet.
(2) You acknowledged that you said something stupid and someone else responded to it.
(3) You made a nonsensical, irrelevant statement about "greed" that cannot be empirically proven
(4) You made a generality regarding the "hopes" of "others on forum," and used that generality to support some sort of statement about your mood. This is called a "non-sequitur."


Ok, so you replied by saying absolutely nothing. Great job.  Grin Grin Grin

Oh, and this:
Quote from: Miz4r
You're overgeneralizing, you don't know how many people are in it just for their own personal greed and I think you are just guessing based on your biased gut feeling. Bitcoin is driven by many things, and yes greed is a part of that too just like with all innovative technologies. But I think you're underestimating the amount of people who truly care about bitcoin as a technology that could revolutionize our monetary system. I am quite heavily invested into bitcoin, but I'm not at all counting on becoming rich because of it. If that happens to be the case, cool. But most importantly I think a decentralized cryptocurrency is what this world needs right now in the midst of all the economic turmoil.



legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1037
Trusted Bitcoiner

I wonder what mr manipulator wants to do now...

the same as everyone else, dump and leave the area...

lol

who the hell wants to do that Huh

... no one wants to do that

keep buying folks, bear trap caught a big bear  Cool
member
Activity: 98
Merit: 10

I wonder what mr manipulator wants to do now...

the same as everyone else, dump and leave the area...
legendary
Activity: 2352
Merit: 1819
1CBuddyxy4FerT3hzMmi1Jz48ESzRw1ZzZ
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
"to be or not to be, that is the bitcoin"
gosh... I get ready to sell x% and leave the profit as investment in ASICMINER, then I start reading the relentlessly positive r/Bitcoin....

http://www.thegenesisblock.com/bitcoin-london-draws-attention-of-mainstream-finance

so, I figure now is a good a time as any to take some profit from ASICMINER's recent explosion and wait for brighter days...  now the bids are looking very strong around $105ish on gox, and bitstamp just can't be trusted one way or the other - everytime you think it's going to drop, someone executes a massive buy, plus the bids closest to the price are all looking fairly healthy now as well.

question is, what's a good mid term exit point, something just below $115ish and hope for a bounce? hmm


I wonder what mr manipulator wants to do now...
legendary
Activity: 2324
Merit: 1125

Patience is a virtue, those Askers have little.  Once the price starts declining again, we're going to see a lot more dumping...

There is a guy asking for 1 trilion for his bitcoins so some of the askers do have patience  Smiley

I'll go lower than $1T Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1862
Merit: 1114
WalletScrutiny.com

Patience is a virtue, those Askers have little.  Once the price starts declining again, we're going to see a lot more dumping...

There is a guy asking for 1 trilion for his bitcoins so some of the askers do have patience  Smiley

Asking one trillions USD is as if you asked one trillion Simbabwe dollars for your Bitcoin. Yeah, sure, we might reach this price and many around here hope rather sooner than later but selling your bitcoins for one trillion $$ then would be much more stupid than to sell them now for $100. Patience you are talking about is laziness, not to anticipate the value in the near and far future. I am too lazy to sell now and know too little to do so, either. I think it would be a good idea to sell now but I am too afraid of missing the train.
hero member
Activity: 826
Merit: 501
in defi we trust

Patience is a virtue, those Askers have little.  Once the price starts declining again, we're going to see a lot more dumping...

There is a guy asking for 1 trilion for his bitcoins so some of the askers do have patience  Smiley
hero member
Activity: 686
Merit: 501
Stephen Reed
Volume is tapering off as we have come to expect leading into the weekend. I've drawn support and resistance lines but the volatility today has cleared out the large bid and ask walls that would otherwise channel the price.

full member
Activity: 238
Merit: 100
off topic: I remember seeing a "recommended fees" table somewhere online, does anyone know of this, can anyone send me a link?



on topic: if you zoom in on bitstamp, the bid walls look nice and healthy now.... just don't zoom out far enough to see those patient 130 ask walls... Smiley


Patience is a virtue, those Askers have little.  Once the price starts declining again, we're going to see a lot more dumping...
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
"to be or not to be, that is the bitcoin"
off topic: I remember seeing a "recommended fees" table somewhere online, does anyone know of this, can anyone send me a link?



on topic: if you zoom in on bitstamp, the bid walls look nice and healthy now.... just don't zoom out far enough to see those patient 130 ask walls... Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1246
Merit: 1000
Do I have to remind you guys that keeping coins and not spending them means you're killing it as a currency?


Yes, that is true in Paul Krugman's socialist keynesian wet dream.

In the real world we call it "using buzzwords (like 'hoarders') to demonize responsible saving."

Nobody ever has any legit data to back up their assumption that there is this huge number of people who hoard BTCs and never spend them. Although if you look at tx volume, you'd easily see that the ratio of spent coins to hoarded coins is much higher than with the USD OR precious metals. The second we say "Oh, but I do spend my coins" the 'anti-hoarder' crowd backs off - "Oh, well that's ok, you're a spender, you're benefiting the currency."
So what is the magical ratio of spend to saved coins you must reach before being considered a hoarder, and how can we empirically justify this ratio? No one has ever answered me this question, and I ask it every single time someone demonizes saving by implying that it "kills bitcoin."

People hoarded gold and silver and they were used as currencies for millenia. Thousands of years. Go read Fekete's papers on monetary theory you will shit your pants when you read what he has to say about hoarding  Shocked

I use a toilet for that... u know... toilet!!!!!!

I know pretty well I stirred a bitbee nest by saying that but don't forget.
Greed will destroy every dream no matter how beautifull it is  , and currently bitcoin is driven by greed.

Unlike many others on forum , I haven't put all my hopes of a wealthy future in bitcoins succes, and thus I can keep a cooler head than most people here.

You're overgeneralizing, you don't know how many people are in it just for their own personal greed and I think you are just guessing based on your biased gut feeling. Bitcoin is driven by many things, and yes greed is a part of that too just like with all innovative technologies. But I think you're underestimating the amount of people who truly care about bitcoin as a technology that could revolutionize our monetary system. I am quite heavily invested into bitcoin, but I'm not at all counting on becoming rich because of it. If that happens to be the case, cool. But most importantly I think a decentralized cryptocurrency is what this world needs right now in the midst of all the economic turmoil.
legendary
Activity: 2352
Merit: 1819
1CBuddyxy4FerT3hzMmi1Jz48ESzRw1ZzZ
hero member
Activity: 826
Merit: 501
in defi we trust
full member
Activity: 194
Merit: 100
This little bounce does't really convince me.
There is solid offer volume but the bid is touching the vertex with a fragile thin spike. I think in days to come we might slowly go down like we have been the last couple of weeks.
Today, in the afternoon there was a handful of bitcoin related good news, looks like many companies are discretely preparing to get in, things might take off like we all wish, but when?

Do we kill the boredom with the good old prediction about 2013 closing price? 350usd is my bet.
hero member
Activity: 826
Merit: 501
in defi we trust
Do I have to remind you guys that keeping coins and not spending them means you're killing it as a currency?


Yes, that is true in Paul Krugman's socialist keynesian wet dream.

In the real world we call it "using buzzwords (like 'hoarders') to demonize responsible saving."

Nobody ever has any legit data to back up their assumption that there is this huge number of people who hoard BTCs and never spend them. Although if you look at tx volume, you'd easily see that the ratio of spent coins to hoarded coins is much higher than with the USD OR precious metals. The second we say "Oh, but I do spend my coins" the 'anti-hoarder' crowd backs off - "Oh, well that's ok, you're a spender, you're benefiting the currency."
So what is the magical ratio of spend to saved coins you must reach before being considered a hoarder, and how can we empirically justify this ratio? No one has ever answered me this question, and I ask it every single time someone demonizes saving by implying that it "kills bitcoin."

People hoarded gold and silver and they were used as currencies for millenia. Thousands of years. Go read Fekete's papers on monetary theory you will shit your pants when you read what he has to say about hoarding  Shocked

I use a toilet for that... u know... toilet!!!!!!

I know pretty well I stirred a bitbee nest by saying that but don't forget.
Greed will destroy every dream no matter how beautifull it is  , and currently bitcoin is driven by greed.

Unlike many others on forum , I haven't put all my hopes of a wealthy future in bitcoins succes, and thus I can keep a cooler head than most people here.


Jump to: