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Quote from: niothor on May 30, 2013, 06:25:13 AM

I my country they found out that a homeless person was the owner of 54 companies dealing with millions in insurances. Same for a 80 gradma.
It's pretty cheap and easy to get same real id's , less than 50 euros.

Yes, but if you give to Gox a fake ID, then you're responsible for reliability of your personal data, not Gox.
Without verification Gox is responsible for it.

So, this is good news. Choo choo!

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Quote from: Rampion on May 30, 2013, 04:18:43 AM

Back to the wall observing: weekly volume is getting lower and lower since the correction/bubble burst (still too soon to decide what was that - which is funny because all of us would have bet that 1 month and a half after the April 10th crash we would have know for sure if that crash was a bubble pop or a correction)

If you look at the same plot for bitstamp, volume is healthily increasing. I'd say it's just the Gox issues

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Quote from: phoenix1 on May 30, 2013, 06:20:02 AM

Quote from: niothor on May 30, 2013, 06:15:32 AM

Account verifications it's a bad joke.

When I worked with epassporte I made a debit card with my cat name on it. Same with my LR account (I had 50 cents there , damn FBI).

Funny !

Yeah , too bad in some cases it turns ugly.

I my country they found out that a homeless person was the owner of 54 companies dealing with millions in insurances. Same for a 80 gradma.
It's pretty cheap and easy to get same real id's , less than 50 euros.

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Quote from: niothor on May 30, 2013, 06:15:32 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

In other news ...

Quote from: myself on May 30, 2013, 05:44:00 AM

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Dear Mt. Gox Customers,

In order to comply with strict anti-money laundering regulations we are now requiring account verifications for all accounts performing non-Bitcoin currency deposits and withdrawals. Please see our statement for the full explanation:

https://mtgox.com/press_release_20130530.html

Best regards,

Mt. Gox Team

Not a great surprise really ... I would imagine anyone who does not want to be verified has been getting their cash off Gox or buying BTC post Dwolla

Account verifications it's a bad joke.

When I worked with epassporte I made a debit card with my cat name on it. Same with my LR account (I had 50 cents there , damn FBI).

I think that's a good message Your. Verification of accounts is better than fear for your money in their account.
After all (Dwolla, LR ...) they must prove that the Bitcoin exchange is not money laundering and terrorist financing.

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Quote from: niothor on May 30, 2013, 06:15:32 AM

Account verifications it's a bad joke.

When I worked with epassporte I made a debit card with my cat name on it. Same with my LR account (I had 50 cents there , damn FBI).

Funny !

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In other news ...

Quote from: myself on May 30, 2013, 05:44:00 AM

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Dear Mt. Gox Customers,

In order to comply with strict anti-money laundering regulations we are now requiring account verifications for all accounts performing non-Bitcoin currency deposits and withdrawals. Please see our statement for the full explanation:

https://mtgox.com/press_release_20130530.html

Best regards,

Mt. Gox Team

Not a great surprise really ... I would imagine anyone who does not want to be verified has been getting their cash off Gox or buying BTC post Dwolla

Interesting though is the use of the phrase 'at this time' wrt BTC withdrawals ... implication to me is that it is a possibility in the future

Bullish news, this is just gasoline for the choo choo train.

Buy now, when big boys come with big money because they are sure they are safe, the train will have left the station and you don't want to be left behind.

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Quote from: ?? on ??

In other news ...

Quote from: myself on May 30, 2013, 05:44:00 AM

ouch

Quote

Dear Mt. Gox Customers,

In order to comply with strict anti-money laundering regulations we are now requiring account verifications for all accounts performing non-Bitcoin currency deposits and withdrawals. Please see our statement for the full explanation:

https://mtgox.com/press_release_20130530.html

Best regards,

Mt. Gox Team

Not a great surprise really ... I would imagine anyone who does not want to be verified has been getting their cash off Gox or buying BTC post Dwolla

Account verifications it's a bad joke.

When I worked with epassporte I made a debit card with my cat name on it. Same with my LR account (I had 50 cents there , damn FBI).

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Imagine somebody buying or selling a few thousands coins now...

Most of the people naping along clarkmoody would fell of their chairs.

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Quote from: niothor on May 30, 2013, 05:26:06 AM

Quote from: Its About Sharing on May 30, 2013, 04:09:56 AM

When we treat other people as "competitors" then stealing and such when times get tough is a predictable outcome. But we have known no other form of government and economics. We are taught in the schools that Darwin was right, when nature shows us cooperation is right. (Even with Lions hunting prey, Nature is mostly a brilliant example of cooperation).

Yeah , lions are the perfect example.... do you know what happens to lions cubs when a new male or male group takes over the pack (after killing or routing the previous males) ?

Don't mistake colaboration in the same pack with colaboration between the entire species.

I'll take ErisDircordias answer

If you want to submit to a central authority dictating how to live different aspects of your life for whatever reason (maybe you feel insecure about your own sense of judgement, are afraid of deviating from norms because of ostracism or just don't like to take responsibility) that's your choice. but PLEASE for the love of everything that is dear to you: let those who don't want a life like that be FREE to not join your game. As it turns out there's a big chance that the next major inventions and technological improvements will come exactly from these people.

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Quote from: Its About Sharing on May 30, 2013, 05:56:35 AM

Quote from: drdanishkhan on May 30, 2013, 05:05:31 AM

Quote from: Its About Sharing on May 30, 2013, 04:13:04 AM

Quote from: drdanishkhan on May 30, 2013, 04:08:41 AM

In any scenario where theres an absence of central authority or rules people will revert to their original sociopathic state.. people will kill each other for petty things because now they will not be questioned for the crime.. i think rules are necessary but only to an extent where they protect the society and not an individual.. rules today are only for those without power, the average citizen.. the ones with money aka power still dont have to answer for their crimes..

Again, you don't know that. You are speaking like recent history is the proof of what human behavior is.

We have been led by the least among us. We have been led with money in mind and not compassion. Change the variables of the equation we currently live in, and you would not feel nor believe what you do.

Our educational system has been dumbing us down with Prussian "education" since the 1800's. Taking away and killing our creativity and curiosity.

Do the real research and you will see we have manipulated to feel and believe what we currently do.

But welcome to the apocalypse - the truth is being unveiled...

So heres a situation buddy.. its apocalypse time.. you are out of water and food.. starving for a week now and all you have is a gun.. you see a guy with some food (maybe a hotdog or whateva you like).. You go to him and he tell you to F off coz he found it its his.. what are you gonna do.. keep starvin for god knows how long or go away quitely??

In an ideal world where the governments took care of its citizens and people actually cared for each other and respected each others possession this situation would never have come.. but we have to face reality here.. i have seen a guy killin a vendor for 15 Rs ie 0.27$.. yeah thats the kinda fucked up world we live in.. so its always better to be cautious..
and i totaly agree we have been made slaves.. creativity today iis considered a sign of illness.. as if something is wrong with him or her.. education actually ruined us..

Apocalypse means unveiling or uncovering. It doesn't mean destruction. Get over what they have been telling you, scaring you with. It is their ending, their way of business, not ours.

If things get tough I will act accordingly (probably, hard to really know), but right now we have a choice. Life isn't hypothetical, it is, is.

Again, you go an believe your reality and let us believe ours. Enough said...

Okay sir

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Quote from: drdanishkhan on May 30, 2013, 05:05:31 AM

Quote from: Its About Sharing on May 30, 2013, 04:13:04 AM

Quote from: drdanishkhan on May 30, 2013, 04:08:41 AM

In any scenario where theres an absence of central authority or rules people will revert to their original sociopathic state.. people will kill each other for petty things because now they will not be questioned for the crime.. i think rules are necessary but only to an extent where they protect the society and not an individual.. rules today are only for those without power, the average citizen.. the ones with money aka power still dont have to answer for their crimes..

Again, you don't know that. You are speaking like recent history is the proof of what human behavior is.

We have been led by the least among us. We have been led with money in mind and not compassion. Change the variables of the equation we currently live in, and you would not feel nor believe what you do.

Our educational system has been dumbing us down with Prussian "education" since the 1800's. Taking away and killing our creativity and curiosity.

Do the real research and you will see we have manipulated to feel and believe what we currently do.

But welcome to the apocalypse - the truth is being unveiled...

So heres a situation buddy.. its apocalypse time.. you are out of water and food.. starving for a week now and all you have is a gun.. you see a guy with some food (maybe a hotdog or whateva you like).. You go to him and he tell you to F off coz he found it its his.. what are you gonna do.. keep starvin for god knows how long or go away quitely??

In an ideal world where the governments took care of its citizens and people actually cared for each other and respected each others possession this situation would never have come.. but we have to face reality here.. i have seen a guy killin a vendor for 15 Rs ie 0.27$.. yeah thats the kinda fucked up world we live in.. so its always better to be cautious..
and i totaly agree we have been made slaves.. creativity today iis considered a sign of illness.. as if something is wrong with him or her.. education actually ruined us..

Apocalypse means unveiling or uncovering. It doesn't mean destruction. Get over what they have been telling you, scaring you with. It is their ending, their way of business, not ours.

If things get tough I will act accordingly (probably, hard to really know), but right now we have a choice. Life isn't hypothetical, it is, is.

Again, you go an believe your reality and let us believe ours. Enough said...

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Back to Gox , funny 0.01 trades

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Quote from: niothor on May 30, 2013, 05:44:42 AM

Quote from: drdanishkhan on May 30, 2013, 05:43:41 AM

Quote from: ErisDiscordia on May 30, 2013, 05:31:19 AM

Quote from: drdanishkhan on May 30, 2013, 05:19:30 AM

That wasnt my point brother.. what i wanted to ask you is what would you do in this situation.. leave quietly or force the guy to give or share his food ??

Since you're asking me directly like this, let me present you with my preferred option which you evidently haven't thought of yet:

...................*drumroll*......................

Opening my mouth and saying "hey dude I'm really hungry and in a bad shape. Care to share some of your food with me?"

That made me laugh Cheesy

Tada tam tshhhhh...

Did you thought the same thing would happen to him when saying "opening my mouth" as I did? Grin

No man.. none of that.. it was the drumroll imagination followed by a guy sayin.. care to give me some.. thats funny Grin

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Okay let me just tell you.. Yes most of us hhave been raised very well by our parents annd we should be thankfull to them but this younger generation isnt being raised they are growing up thats all.. all i see is selfishness and greed.. a hunger to have as much as possible even if it is at the expense of others.. if i was in that situation maybe i would have begged him for food and most probably leave coz i am no fighter.. but if the situation was the reverse i would have most prob have shared coz thats how we were raised as children.. moral values.. those are degrading

Second.. the thing that autharities are allways replaced by gangsters.. yes most of the time its true but if you have people who have been raised well that wont happen now would it.. because whenever they would do anything wrong their conscience would pop up.. atleast thats how i feel.. Its a long debate anyhow.. human mind is as mystical as it always has been and full of surprises Grin

Satoshi gave us the bitcoin u know Grin

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Quote from: drdanishkhan on May 30, 2013, 05:43:41 AM

Quote from: ErisDiscordia on May 30, 2013, 05:31:19 AM

Quote from: drdanishkhan on May 30, 2013, 05:19:30 AM

That wasnt my point brother.. what i wanted to ask you is what would you do in this situation.. leave quietly or force the guy to give or share his food ??

Since you're asking me directly like this, let me present you with my preferred option which you evidently haven't thought of yet:

...................*drumroll*......................

Opening my mouth and saying "hey dude I'm really hungry and in a bad shape. Care to share some of your food with me?"

That made me laugh Cheesy

Tada tam tshhhhh...

Did you thought the same thing would happen to him when saying "opening my mouth" as I did? Grin

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Quote from: ErisDiscordia on May 30, 2013, 05:31:19 AM

Quote from: drdanishkhan on May 30, 2013, 05:19:30 AM

That wasnt my point brother.. what i wanted to ask you is what would you do in this situation.. leave quietly or force the guy to give or share his food ??

Since you're asking me directly like this, let me present you with my preferred option which you evidently haven't thought of yet:

...................*drumroll*......................

Opening my mouth and saying "hey dude I'm really hungry and in a bad shape. Care to share some of your food with me?"

That made me laugh Cheesy

Tada tam tshhhhh...

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Quote from: ErisDiscordia on May 30, 2013, 05:31:19 AM

Quote from: drdanishkhan on May 30, 2013, 05:19:30 AM

That wasnt my point brother.. what i wanted to ask you is what would you do in this situation.. leave quietly or force the guy to give or share his food ??

Since you're asking me directly like this, let me present you with my preferred option which you evidently haven't thought of yet:

...................*drumroll*......................

Opening my mouth and saying "hey dude I'm really hungry and in a bad shape. Care to share some of your food with me?"

He already told you that the guy would say f*** off , don't try to be a smart ass avoiding the question (and not quoting the entire paragraph)
You risk starvation , the guy has food but doesn't want to share. Next move?

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Quote from: drdanishkhan on May 30, 2013, 05:19:30 AM

That wasnt my point brother.. what i wanted to ask you is what would you do in this situation.. leave quietly or force the guy to give or share his food ??

Since you're asking me directly like this, let me present you with my preferred option which you evidently haven't thought of yet:

...................*drumroll*......................

Opening my mouth and saying "hey dude I'm really hungry and in a bad shape. Care to share some of your food with me?"

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Quote from: drdanishkhan on May 30, 2013, 05:26:41 AM

If the right kind of people ie the ones who actually care for others rather than themselves take charge ...[...]

And this is the weak point / condition that has been failing for thousands of years. Many people declared to be the right kind. But once they take charge ... well that's a different story.

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