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That's pretty big news. I don't like the sound of it one bit. The media could dine out on that.

Under 10% of people in China own a car. 40% of families don't own a fridge. The average Chinese person has the same buying power an 9 year old american boy. The people in China with money, will buy/hold/sell BTC as they please. Mass adoption in China was overblown, buying a fridge ranks slightly higher then BTC.

You're gonna get a bear tag for this!
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That's pretty big news. I don't like the sound of it one bit. The media could dine out on that.

Under 10% of people in China own a car. 40% of families don't own a fridge. The average Chinese person has the same buying power an 9 year old american boy. The people in China with money, will buy/hold/sell BTC as they please. Mass adoption in China was overblown, buying a fridge ranks slightly higher then BTC.
legendary
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I love the short TF trend lines i see in this topic... It remembers me how PRO I'm compared to the average guy here Cheesy
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Stephen Reed
The rally broke through resistance at $123 and has paused near $127. Volume continues to be modest.

legendary
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As this is our own FUD-spreading thread, let me quote you the email that the Blockchain.info operator got from Twilio, regarding a possible action against Bitcoin in China:

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Hi Ben,

We got further information from our carrier confirming that business such as bitcoin is not a proper financial tool in China and the Authority may treat bitcoin as an illegal business. Unfortunately the China Telecom Authority has requested that all bit-coin traffic to China be blocked.

As the provider of the phone number, Twilio is responsible for assuring the carriers that no more traffic related to bitcoin will be sent to China. Therefore, I have removed your international SMS permission to China. Please do not turn this on or try sending SMS messages to mobile numbers in China. Doing so will very likely lead to immediate account suspension.

Again I'm sorry for the convenience. Please let me know if you have any additional questions.
Thanks,
Twilio Customer Support

Source: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2243603
That's pretty big news. I don't like the sound of it one bit. The media could dine out on that.
Oh, they have been going on and on for a while already, I'm not too worried: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7GFfJVo_KY

The consensus seems to be that the post on reddit was just to try and troll the price down.   It was made by a user with 1 post, and there is no further confirmation.   I would say wait to hear it from a reputable source before we worry too much anyway.   Not that we should worry, because if there is one thing that makes people want something all the more, it is to tell them that they aren't allowed . . .

The source is Been Reeves aka piuk, the guy running blockchain.info. Check the source link, the reddit guy copied and pasted the email Ben received from Twilio.
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As this is our own FUD-spreading thread, let me quote you the email that the Blockchain.info operator got from Twilio, regarding a possible action against Bitcoin in China:

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Hi Ben,

We got further information from our carrier confirming that business such as bitcoin is not a proper financial tool in China and the Authority may treat bitcoin as an illegal business. Unfortunately the China Telecom Authority has requested that all bit-coin traffic to China be blocked.

As the provider of the phone number, Twilio is responsible for assuring the carriers that no more traffic related to bitcoin will be sent to China. Therefore, I have removed your international SMS permission to China. Please do not turn this on or try sending SMS messages to mobile numbers in China. Doing so will very likely lead to immediate account suspension.

Again I'm sorry for the convenience. Please let me know if you have any additional questions.
Thanks,
Twilio Customer Support

Source: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2243603
That's pretty big news. I don't like the sound of it one bit. The media could dine out on that.
Oh, they have been going on and on for a while already, I'm not too worried: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7GFfJVo_KY

The consensus seems to be that the post on reddit was just to try and troll the price down.   It was made by a user with 1 post, and there is no further confirmation.   I would say wait to hear it from a reputable source before we worry too much anyway.   Not that we should worry, because if there is one thing that makes people want something all the more, it is to tell them that they aren't allowed . . .
legendary
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Walzilla Jr. moved his wall back to $120 on Bitstamp, I think he got tired of endlessly chasing the price and will resume when price comes down again. Tongue
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Trusted Bitcoiner
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As this is our own FUD-spreading thread, let me quote you the email that the Blockchain.info operator got from Twilio, regarding a possible action against Bitcoin in China:

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Hi Ben,

We got further information from our carrier confirming that business such as bitcoin is not a proper financial tool in China and the Authority may treat bitcoin as an illegal business. Unfortunately the China Telecom Authority has requested that all bit-coin traffic to China be blocked.

As the provider of the phone number, Twilio is responsible for assuring the carriers that no more traffic related to bitcoin will be sent to China. Therefore, I have removed your international SMS permission to China. Please do not turn this on or try sending SMS messages to mobile numbers in China. Doing so will very likely lead to immediate account suspension.

Again I'm sorry for the convenience. Please let me know if you have any additional questions.
Thanks,
Twilio Customer Support

Source: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2243603
That's pretty big news. I don't like the sound of it one bit. The media could dine out on that.
Oh, they have been going on and on for a while already, I'm not too worried: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7GFfJVo_KY
legendary
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Bitstamp's $100k bid wall is not fake at all. Being chewed ATM.

It's funny to see such a small wall looking so relatively big and menacing. Good news guys, at Bitstamp we can all be big time manipulators Smiley
sr. member
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As this is our own FUD-spreading thread, let me quote you the email that the Blockchain.info operator got from Twilio, regarding a possible action against Bitcoin in China:

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Hi Ben,

We got further information from our carrier confirming that business such as bitcoin is not a proper financial tool in China and the Authority may treat bitcoin as an illegal business. Unfortunately the China Telecom Authority has requested that all bit-coin traffic to China be blocked.

As the provider of the phone number, Twilio is responsible for assuring the carriers that no more traffic related to bitcoin will be sent to China. Therefore, I have removed your international SMS permission to China. Please do not turn this on or try sending SMS messages to mobile numbers in China. Doing so will very likely lead to immediate account suspension.

Again I'm sorry for the convenience. Please let me know if you have any additional questions.
Thanks,
Twilio Customer Support

Source: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2243603
That's pretty big news. I don't like the sound of it one bit. The media could dine out on that.
sr. member
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1000BTC buy wall @ 120 just appeared on Bitstamp.  

Yeah, a tiny $120k wall looks like a super wall at Bitstamp Cheesy

Do you remember our good old Wallzilla, with his $2M wall, pumping the price up before his dump?

Just to give some context, $2M is exactly x2 the total amount of fiat sitting on Bitstamp's order book.

Imagine how that wall would look on Bitstamp Cheesy



A speed bump.  Tongue  Kidding of course.

legendary
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Drunk Posts
I know exactly why it went up... Last night I said f*** it and sold at 124.xx, so of course it rises to 126 today...
legendary
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Well the ask wall on bitstamp doesn't look so scary anymore now. Tongue
legendary
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1000BTC buy wall @ 120 just appeared on Bitstamp.  

Yeah, a tiny $120k wall looks like a super wall at Bitstamp Cheesy

Do you remember our good old Wallzilla, with his $2M wall, pumping the price up before his dump?

Just to give some context, $2M is exactly x2 the total amount of fiat sitting on Bitstamp's order book.

Imagine how that wall would look on Bitstamp Cheesy

sr. member
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1000BTC buy wall @ 120 just appeared on Bitstamp.  
legendary
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As this is our own FUD-spreading thread, let me quote you the email that the Blockchain.info operator got from Twilio, regarding a possible action against Bitcoin in China:

Quote
Hi Ben,

We got further information from our carrier confirming that business such as bitcoin is not a proper financial tool in China and the Authority may treat bitcoin as an illegal business. Unfortunately the China Telecom Authority has requested that all bit-coin traffic to China be blocked.

As the provider of the phone number, Twilio is responsible for assuring the carriers that no more traffic related to bitcoin will be sent to China. Therefore, I have removed your international SMS permission to China. Please do not turn this on or try sending SMS messages to mobile numbers in China. Doing so will very likely lead to immediate account suspension.

Again I'm sorry for the convenience. Please let me know if you have any additional questions.
Thanks,
Twilio Customer Support

Source: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2243603

Haha the first government that starts fighting. I say: Bring it! Smiley
legendary
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Antifragile
Relax about China; the Chinese have been figuring out how to get around the CCP's censorship for years. Sure, it means an adoption boom is unlikely but we'll still see some support from China. Maybe those interested will just move to OTC.

China attempting to block bitcoin traffic = good news for bitcoin(they legitimize it by banning it)

Nikkei crashing 7% = good news for bitcoin (if you have been following Japan recently you'll know why)

Most of the "bad news" is really good news. Heck, the Gox lawsuit and Dwolla seizure was good news, and people moving away from Gox is good news. Finally folks are starting to realize that we live in bizarro-world where everything is the opposite of what it seems.....

If BTC is banned in China that is terrible new, no two ways around that. We want to be able to use BTC for purchases and stuff. It will be underground there but the point is to have a new global money system, maybe not "the" system.

Nikkei crashing I agree is good news for BTC and for those who don't agree with just printing money. It is stealing from savers.

The Gox lawsuit was great as it got people on their toes and started a diversification that was needed. Further this is opening up opportunities for other exchanges.

legendary
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Antifragile
I wouldn't consider bitcoin as a "safe" heaven, but the alternatives have turned sour in the last few days/months...

Gold and silver are down
stocks just took a beating (2008 in the making ?)
fiat is being constantly inflated
commodities are up but for investing

so probably a lot of investors are getting out of the stock market at the moment and while they won't go all in we may see some now money testing the waters over the next few weeks.

Well, we know at least the security part of BTC is safe. The unsafe parts lie at the users level and of course in a bigger way at the government level.

Regarding that last point, look at what is happening to currencies all over the world. Essentially we have "managed" hyperinflation! Confidence is all that is keeping the system up. If a few more
stock market crashes happen like in Japan today, this ship can topple and that lack of confidence would just open up the flood gates to Bitcoin and other stores of value (see Cyprus - I spelled it right this time, please note). Now, in that way, what do you have to lose? (A government closing it down? A price crash? Huh) You need some store of wealth. Gold and Silver work but the banks and/or hedge funds have been naked short selling them and you can be sure that will continue as they do not want people to lose confidence in the Dollar, Euro, etc.
But people are still buying them up. So, safe to me is a relative thing. The whole reason why BTC is here right now.

When the stock markets start crashing the currencies will be right behind them (maybe not in that order) and then you will see a disconnect between dollars/Euros/etc. and gold/silver/btc. You will want to be holding something in your control, not a governments or states or military's.
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Agreed, moonshot bids for $20 coins don't really count. I keep meaning to create an index that divides each bid/ask by the % distance from the current MMR. I think it would be much more insightful. I just can't square the maths to adjust for the fact that bids only differ by 100% but asks can be many 1000% higher. Anyone know how to properly adjust for that?

Simple, just base it on the logarithm of the price.

Thanks, but I think I've got it now. It's simpler than that.

One re-bases the order book so MMR is 1. lets call it $125. A $100 dollar bid at $10 dollars gets weighted by 0.08. An equally weighted ask of $100 would be priced at $1562 (the price at which current MMR represents only 8%.)

So who do I need to beg for historical daily snapshots of the full depth API?
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