First strike capability is just that...the ability to launch a preemptive attack before a conflict is initiated. Wargaming this scenario would be launching a surprise attack with the intent of reducing or eliminating your opponents ability to respond.
some stuff...mileage may very
overview of weapon systems
https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets
moar facts?
https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/russiaprofile
overview of arms control(might be a few years dated)
https://www.armscontrol.org/act/2001-03/features/pledging-first-strike-step-toward-real-wmd-cooperation
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March 01, 2022, 01:25:58 PM
March 01, 2022, 01:20:22 PM
First strike capability in this context means to survive the retaliation, I forget this could be misunderstood by those not in the know.
Hm. I remember that was second strike/ride out capability: You could be nuked but your missiles would survive to trash the person who struck first. The whole MX missile thing was designed for that in the 80's, before Reagan went to deep pack mode which was stupid as... well par for the course.
Doing a fast lookup on FS I get:
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the initial use of nuclear weapons to attack a country that also has nuclear weapons; considered feasible only when the attacker can destroy the other country's ability to retaliate
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Amusingly enough Khrushchev was a more rational actor than Kennedy as he knew Kennedy would not back down.
Good history lesson there.
Good history lesson there.
Indeed. My dad told me about working in CA during that time, waking up, driving to work, and seeing all the fog in the valley. Except the fog was not fog, but missiles out of the tubes, fueled, and ready for a hot launch.
Fun times.
March 01, 2022, 01:01:25 PM
March 01, 2022, 12:52:38 PM
Ukraine regime will be demilitarized and denazified. There will be Nuremberg 2.0 in Kiev for every nazi with blood on their hands. Ukraine neutrality will be ensured and just after that Russian expeditionary corps will be withdrawn.
What are you smoking man?? ... Russia will not exist as a state in a few years.
March 01, 2022, 12:39:11 PM
First strike capability in this context means to survive the retaliation, I forget this could be misunderstood by those not in the know.
I thought that meant the guy who can deliver a nuke before the other guy had the chance to. What a confusing term.
Also, no way anyone is going to be able to intercept a highly maneuverable hypersonic missle going 9,500 km/h. So, nukes hitting their target are basically a 100% certainty.
Ukraine regime will be demilitarized and denazified. There will be Nuremberg 2.0 in Kiev for every nazi with blood on their hands. Ukraine neutrality will be ensured and just after that Russian expeditionary corps will be withdrawn.
Dude just be a man and admit you fell for the propaganda. What you are doing now is more shameful.
March 01, 2022, 12:20:08 PM
Ukraine regime will be demilitarized and denazified. There will be Nuremberg 2.0 in Kiev for every nazi with blood on their hands. Ukraine neutrality will be ensured and just after that Russian expeditionary corps will be withdrawn.
March 01, 2022, 12:01:20 PM
March 01, 2022, 11:52:02 AM
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I was a Fucking Marine under Reagen you morons.
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I was a Fucking Marine under Reagen you morons.
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Respect. Ty for your service, brother.
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Under Reagen, I was smokin’ weed, wearing silly eyeliner, and creating loud obnoxious noise in a punk rock band.
Albeit I did hold down a day job, drilling a hole in millions of little rectangular metal thingies and other mindless stuff.
(Someone had to pay the rent, doncha know)
Good times, I was doing my fair share of partying back then as well.
March 01, 2022, 11:47:48 AM
BTW: Drop the name calling, back your arguments instead.
I don't have the time to waste arguing with a bunch of tards with agendas, I'm just noting who the gaslighters are and those that are just gaslit.
March 01, 2022, 11:42:51 AM
Crazy Puto thinks he can surpass Hitler in his madness, but the only thing they might have in common is that he will end up the same way - except that angry Russians could set him on fire alive.
This actually is the problem, Putin has a little man complex and is backing himself into a corner where he cannot back off without losing face.
March 01, 2022, 11:41:09 AM
Crazy Puto thinks he can surpass Hitler in his madness, but the only thing they might have in common is that he will end up the same way - except that angry Russians could set him on fire alive.
March 01, 2022, 11:38:29 AM
Anyone trying to tell me Russia has first strike capability is a RETARD.
You Commie leaning bastards keep trying to spin this shit all you want.
You Commie leaning bastards keep trying to spin this shit all you want.
Russia can most certainly launch their shit for a first strike attempt. Question 1: Will any of it get off the ground? Question 2: Will any of it actually explode?
US response would be interesting in this case. If a fizzle result do we make the entire East glow? Or just a proverbial "out of court settlement"?
First strike capability in this context means to survive the retaliation, I forget this could be misunderstood by those not in the know.
We would both glow,, there is no winner...by design.
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MAD assumes rational actors. Trump and Putin do not seem to be very rational lately, so what we have is more the game we call "Chicken". And chicken is not a very good game with better than zero-sum outcomes.
In the Tit for Tat world, Russia has defected. Thus the only proper response is to defect, which leads to a minimal payoff stalemate.
In the Tit for Tat world, Russia has defected. Thus the only proper response is to defect, which leads to a minimal payoff stalemate.
Amusingly enough Khrushchev was a more rational actor than Kennedy as he knew Kennedy would not back down.
Good history lesson there.
March 01, 2022, 11:30:51 AM
I've tried to inform friends and family like this as well (so understand the frustration), the younger generations simply don't understand the destructive capabilities of these types of weapons, or when they do start to understand their confidence snaps and they lash out by dismissing it completely because it makes no sense. Anyone who has done ABC (Atomic Biological Chemical) warfare training in military, or grew up during the cold war will at least be partially aware of this.
I was a Fucking Marine under Reagen you morons.
It literally was my job to place a nuke for cuba on a fucking skyhawk.
Anyone trying to tell me Russia has first strike capability is a RETARD.
You Commie leaning bastards keep trying to spin this shit all you want.
BOTTOM line is MAD is in full effect.
Same old bullshit rewrapped.
SF had portable nukes, Russians took a different approach and placed "suitcase devices" at strategic targets during peacetime. Claims about abandoning these programs fall under MAD, so doubt anything is actually cancelled. My point is that first strike doesn't have to be in the form of a missile.
BTW: Drop the name calling, back your arguments instead.
March 01, 2022, 11:30:12 AM
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I was a Fucking Marine under Reagen you morons.
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I was a Fucking Marine under Reagen you morons.
…
Respect. Ty for your service, brother.
……
Under Reagen, I was smokin’ weed, wearing silly eyeliner, and creating loud obnoxious noise in a punk rock band.
Albeit I did hold down a day job, drilling a hole in millions of little rectangular metal thingies and other mindless stuff.
(Someone had to pay the rent, doncha know)
March 01, 2022, 11:25:32 AM
I fear tonight might be it for Kyiv. I think they are going to get obliterated before more weapons arrive from Europe / USA.
March 01, 2022, 11:25:27 AM
Anyone trying to tell me Russia has first strike capability is a RETARD.
You Commie leaning bastards keep trying to spin this shit all you want.
You Commie leaning bastards keep trying to spin this shit all you want.
Russia can most certainly launch their shit for a first strike attempt. Question 1: Will any of it get off the ground? Question 2: Will any of it actually explode?
US response would be interesting in this case. If a fizzle result do we make the entire East glow? Or just a proverbial "out of court settlement"?
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BOTTOM line is MAD is in full effect.
MAD assumes rational actors. Trump and Putin do not seem to be very rational lately, so what we have is more the game we call "Chicken". And chicken is not a very good game with better than zero-sum outcomes.
In the Tit for Tat world, Russia has defected. Thus the only proper response is to defect, which leads to a minimal payoff stalemate.
March 01, 2022, 11:01:21 AM
March 01, 2022, 10:57:01 AM
I've tried to inform friends and family like this as well (so understand the frustration), the younger generations simply don't understand the destructive capabilities of these types of weapons, or when they do start to understand their confidence snaps and they lash out by dismissing it completely because it makes no sense. Anyone who has done ABC (Atomic Biological Chemical) warfare training in military, or grew up during the cold war will at least be partially aware of this.
I was a Fucking Marine under Reagen you morons.
It literally was my job to place a nuke for cuba on a fucking skyhawk.
Anyone trying to tell me Russia has first strike capability is a RETARD.
You Commie leaning bastards keep trying to spin this shit all you want.
BOTTOM line is MAD is in full effect.
Same old bullshit rewrapped.
March 01, 2022, 10:48:53 AM
How retarded is this: https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-698922
I mean mistaking Israeli DJ for a Chechen militant?
I mean mistaking Israeli DJ for a Chechen militant?
Must be because his beats are the bomb
I probably should have read the article first.
March 01, 2022, 10:30:43 AM
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