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legendary
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I could be missing something, but this is how things seem to have happened to me:

Player deposits 36 btc and wagers them all on the favorite in a tennis match.

The transaction is confirmed before the match begins.


I'm afraid you got it wrong.

The bet was placed during the match and the transaction confirmed more than 12 hours later.

The bet transfer included Bitcoins that were already spent in another transaction as you can see here :

https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/89be96f6cecf47de065ea152b3d1bd969047cb282c61a4c30d82d78e38ef1ddd/

In addition, the transaction was sent with significantly low fees, more than 20 times lower than recommended !

Now why would anyone send $16,500 bet and not be willing to pay even 1 cent in fees ?

There is only one reason. This was done on purpose to give him the option not to pay for this bet in case it loses.

No one is sending $16,500 transfer without even 1 cent in fees and with coins that were already spent elsewhere, unless their intentions are fraudulent.


Even if it could be proven (it hasn't been) I don't think it even matters if the player was acting malicious or not.  Directbet accepted the bet, they should honor it.


When you bet on our website you accept our terms and conditions.

In our terms and conditions we clearly state that if your bet transfer is double spent, it may be confiscated. This is no hidden secret.

The above clearly shows that this was a fraudulent double spend attempt. These kind of double spends do not occur by mistake. They are done on purpose and we have zero tolerance in such cases because it threatens our business.

the transaction was confirmed on 5/11 before the match and it was not double spent. Edit, That was the TX that was never confirmed on 5/11.  I was wrong.
legendary
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Yeah people are trying to scam gambling sites left an right. An its pretty messed up, that an they have been doing this to online services who take btc also.
yeah for me this is pretty clear case , op trying to cheat by make the transaction to directbet in double spend in case the bet lost op could make it canceled and if won op could make it confirmed transaction. i thought the case should be closed immediately? if everyone can see it pretty clear.
legendary
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I could be missing something, but this is how things seem to have happened to me:

Player deposits 36 btc and wagers them all on the favorite in a tennis match.

The transaction is confirmed before the match begins.


I'm afraid you got it wrong.

The bet was placed during the match and the transaction confirmed more than 12 hours later.

The bet transfer included Bitcoins that were already spent in another transaction as you can see here :

https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/89be96f6cecf47de065ea152b3d1bd969047cb282c61a4c30d82d78e38ef1ddd/

In addition, the transaction was sent with significantly low fees, more than 20 times lower than recommended !

Now why would anyone send $16,500 bet and not be willing to pay even 1 cent in fees ?

There is only one reason. This was done on purpose to give him the option not to pay for this bet in case it loses.

No one is sending $16,500 transfer without even 1 cent in fees and with coins that were already spent elsewhere, unless their intentions are fraudulent.


Even if it could be proven (it hasn't been) I don't think it even matters if the player was acting malicious or not.  Directbet accepted the bet, they should honor it.


When you bet on our website you accept our terms and conditions.

In our terms and conditions we clearly state that if your bet transfer is double spent, it may be confiscated. This is no hidden secret.

The above clearly shows that this was a fraudulent double spend attempt. These kind of double spends do not occur by mistake. They are done on purpose and we have zero tolerance in such cases because it threatens our business.
legendary
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I could be missing something, but this is how things seem to have happened to me:

Player deposits 36 btc and wagers them all on the favorite in a tennis match.

The transaction is confirmed before the match begins.

After the first set, there is an attempted double spend of the same output from already confirmed transaction.  It never confirms (obviously)

Directbet considers the proof of the double spend to also be proof that the player is a hacker who acted maliciously and decides to freeroll the player (if the bet loses, he keeps it.  If it wins, he doesn't pay)

When the player starts making the issue public, Directbet offers to return the only the initial wager as long as he kept quit ( "out of good will" in his words)  Then he adds the stipulation that the player must provide scan of passport if he wants the 32 btc returned.


Even if it could be proven (it hasn't been) I don't think it even matters if the player was acting malicious or not.  Directbet accepted the bet, they should honor it.  Instead, they made a decision which resulted in them walking away with 50+ bitcoin they are not entitled to.

It's also worth noting that there are claims that this isn't the first time DirectBet has been involved in a situation like this.







newbie
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It is an attempted double spend. The first input sends 0.00832786 BTC from 15g236ReESnRswjVHxZwzUsxgCNhcR73CU
The output of that is https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/0211041649531fe5c7c9a935cb40202c6ddc18731d81d600f899ca1b21f3bea1/#output-index-0
If you take a look at your double spent attempt transaction, there is also a 0.00832786 BTC input from 15g236ReESnRswjVHxZwzUsxgCNhcR73CU
You already spent that input for your DirectBet deposit, yet in your double spent attempt transaction , you attempt to spend it again. How do I know this? The output transactions IDs are exactly the same. First a PD depositor that complained about a double spend not being credited 2 days ago, now this...


Your the one who doesn't understand how the blockchain works.

No.

in the tx they claim i double spend after nadal (https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/34a243727b11220c6ae3b03d189d8ba21561e4af5bc4fc99f7e704b91943a240/)

But the input of that tx has address https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/address/1ENYCitHPwcMz2yjzQ3k9UNFN7hMXUrv4K/     And that tx moved before nadal.  This proves the inputs that make up 34a243727b11220c6ae3b03d189d8ba21561e4af5bc4fc99f7e704b91943a240   were invalid and mathematically impossible to confirm and mathematically BEFORE nadal.

Your address 15g236ReESnRswjVHxZwzUsxgCNhcR73CU is probably change of buying btc source

I buy btc bet at party now no coin or cash.  Should always do more research with btc sites. Maybe this is why ETH is created.
No. If 15g236ReESnRswjVHxZwzUsxgCNhcR73CU is a change address from the excess of the bitcoin you bought, then how did you spend it as an input to your directbet gambling? You can't. Also, your gambling transaction had a extremely small fee, with a fee of 0.00001685 (1685 satoshi) per kb, which is way below the optimal/low priority fee level. The game started at 7:30 AM for me, and your transaction confirmed at 3:43 PM, a few hours after the game finished.



15g236ReESnRswjVHxZwzUsxgCNhcR73CU would be available because associated address 1ENYCitHPwcMz2yjzQ3k9UNFN7hMXUrv4K is spent and confirmed block 2016-05-11 11:41:40 Long before match starts.


so anytime after 2016-05-11 11:41:40 , 15g236ReESnRswjVHxZwzUsxgCNhcR73CU could be spendable

Nadal on 12-5


Big player should play with caution.
newbie
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It is an attempted double spend. The first input sends 0.00832786 BTC from 15g236ReESnRswjVHxZwzUsxgCNhcR73CU
The output of that is https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/0211041649531fe5c7c9a935cb40202c6ddc18731d81d600f899ca1b21f3bea1/#output-index-0
If you take a look at your double spent attempt transaction, there is also a 0.00832786 BTC input from 15g236ReESnRswjVHxZwzUsxgCNhcR73CU
You already spent that input for your DirectBet deposit, yet in your double spent attempt transaction , you attempt to spend it again. How do I know this? The output transactions IDs are exactly the same. First a PD depositor that complained about a double spend not being credited 2 days ago, now this...


Your the one who doesn't understand how the blockchain works.

No.

in the tx they claim i double spend after nadal (https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/34a243727b11220c6ae3b03d189d8ba21561e4af5bc4fc99f7e704b91943a240/)

But the input of that tx has address https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/address/1ENYCitHPwcMz2yjzQ3k9UNFN7hMXUrv4K/     And that tx moved before nadal.  This proves the inputs that make up 34a243727b11220c6ae3b03d189d8ba21561e4af5bc4fc99f7e704b91943a240   were invalid and mathematically impossible to confirm and mathematically BEFORE nadal.

Your address 15g236ReESnRswjVHxZwzUsxgCNhcR73CU is probably change of buying btc source

I buy btc bet at party now no coin or cash.  Should always do more research with btc sites. Maybe this is why ETH is created.
No. If 15g236ReESnRswjVHxZwzUsxgCNhcR73CU is a change address from the excess of the bitcoin you bought, then how did you spend it as an input to your directbet gambling? You can't. Also, your gambling transaction had a extremely small fee, with a fee of 0.00001685 (1685 satoshi) per kb, which is way below the optimal/low priority fee level. The game started at 7:30 AM for me, and your transaction confirmed at 3:43 PM, a few hours after the game finished.



no i buy btc bet at party from people who show me btc betting.


The input of the tx they say i send AFTER nadal loses is impossible because the input is spent in tx https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/5770c3e8ece620f3a45f48254820e6b2fd5ad3c341dbceaf5106bbc431e8c2df/


this tx is in block 411291, and is unrelated to directbet or me happens   2016-05-11 11:41:40 Long before match starts.

i lose cash for bet and lose btc.


legendary
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It is an attempted double spend. The first input sends 0.00832786 BTC from 15g236ReESnRswjVHxZwzUsxgCNhcR73CU
The output of that is https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/0211041649531fe5c7c9a935cb40202c6ddc18731d81d600f899ca1b21f3bea1/#output-index-0
If you take a look at your double spent attempt transaction, there is also a 0.00832786 BTC input from 15g236ReESnRswjVHxZwzUsxgCNhcR73CU
You already spent that input for your DirectBet deposit, yet in your double spent attempt transaction , you attempt to spend it again. How do I know this? The output transactions IDs are exactly the same. First a PD depositor that complained about a double spend not being credited 2 days ago, now this...


Your the one who doesn't understand how the blockchain works.

No.

in the tx they claim i double spend after nadal (https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/34a243727b11220c6ae3b03d189d8ba21561e4af5bc4fc99f7e704b91943a240/)

But the input of that tx has address https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/address/1ENYCitHPwcMz2yjzQ3k9UNFN7hMXUrv4K/     And that tx moved before nadal.  This proves the inputs that make up 34a243727b11220c6ae3b03d189d8ba21561e4af5bc4fc99f7e704b91943a240   were invalid and mathematically impossible to confirm and mathematically BEFORE nadal.

Your address 15g236ReESnRswjVHxZwzUsxgCNhcR73CU is probably change of buying btc source

I buy btc bet at party now no coin or cash.  Should always do more research with btc sites. Maybe this is why ETH is created.
No. If 15g236ReESnRswjVHxZwzUsxgCNhcR73CU is a change address from the excess of the bitcoin you bought, then how did you spend it as an input to your directbet gambling? You can't. Also, your gambling transaction had a extremely small fee, with a fee of 0.00001685 (1685 satoshi) per kb, which is way below the optimal/low priority fee level. The game started at 7:30 AM for me, and your transaction confirmed at 3:43 PM, a few hours after the game finished.
hero member
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Every trans id you have shown


Then:
newbie
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It is an attempted double spend. The first input sends 0.00832786 BTC from 15g236ReESnRswjVHxZwzUsxgCNhcR73CU
The output of that is https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/0211041649531fe5c7c9a935cb40202c6ddc18731d81d600f899ca1b21f3bea1/#output-index-0
If you take a look at your double spent attempt transaction, there is also a 0.00832786 BTC input from 15g236ReESnRswjVHxZwzUsxgCNhcR73CU
You already spent that input for your DirectBet deposit, yet in your double spent attempt transaction , you attempt to spend it again. How do I know this? The output transactions IDs are exactly the same. First a PD depositor that complained about a double spend not being credited 2 days ago, now this...


Your the one who doesn't understand how the blockchain works.

No.

in the tx they claim i double spend after nadal (https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/34a243727b11220c6ae3b03d189d8ba21561e4af5bc4fc99f7e704b91943a240/)

But the input of that tx has address https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/address/1ENYCitHPwcMz2yjzQ3k9UNFN7hMXUrv4K/     And that tx moved before nadal.  This proves the inputs that make up 34a243727b11220c6ae3b03d189d8ba21561e4af5bc4fc99f7e704b91943a240   were invalid and mathematically impossible to confirm and mathematically BEFORE nadal.

Your address 15g236ReESnRswjVHxZwzUsxgCNhcR73CU is probably change of buying btc source

I buy btc bet at party now no coin or cash.  Should always do more research with btc sites. Maybe this is why ETH is created.
hero member
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Yeah people are trying to scam gambling sites left an right. An its pretty messed up, that an they have been doing this to online services who take btc also.
legendary
Activity: 2772
Merit: 3284
It is an attempted double spend. The first input sends 0.00832786 BTC from 15g236ReESnRswjVHxZwzUsxgCNhcR73CU
The output of that is https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/0211041649531fe5c7c9a935cb40202c6ddc18731d81d600f899ca1b21f3bea1/#output-index-0
If you take a look at your double spent attempt transaction, there is also a 0.00832786 BTC input from 15g236ReESnRswjVHxZwzUsxgCNhcR73CU
You already spent that input for your DirectBet deposit, yet in your double spent attempt transaction , you attempt to spend it again. How do I know this? The output transactions IDs are exactly the same. First a PD depositor that complained about a double spend not being credited 2 days ago, now this...


Your the one who doesn't understand how the blockchain works.
newbie
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This case involves an hacker who bet on Nadal to win a Tennis match and shortly afterwards attempted to double spend his bet transfer after Nadal lost the first set.

Following is a proof :

https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/89be96f6cecf47de065ea152b3d1bd969047cb282c61a4c30d82d78e38ef1ddd/

He also admitted this to us via e-mail and promised not to do it again if we return his original wager.

As a goodwill gesture we agreed to return his original wager provided that he sign an agreement, but he refused.

We will not be discussing this matter publicly any further. If you have any more questions please direct them to [email protected]


This post just shows how bad support is.

Your entire transaction comes before nadal even played. If you read email you would see that.  See post above with inputaddress https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/address/1ENYCitHPwcMz2yjzQ3k9UNFN7hMXUrv4K/    part of the txid you provide. That input was already spent 1 day BEFORE nadal even played. So that txid mathematically exist PRE nadal and IMPOSSIBLE to confirm.

 I screenshot share all email. The idea of an "agreement" in btc in MTGOX era is laughable, but entertain it you never send agreement and slow response


The incompetance, slow support, and lack of understanding of blockchain just proves the caliber of site to handle such large tx not there.  

Highly advise serious players to avoid.
legendary
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This Matter was Resolved !

As a goodwill gesture and in an effort to resolve this matter we refunded hungerstyle bet that was initially confiscated due to fraud attempt :

https://www.directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=128iBKnkKPcSPcwZEDMK7sSMJGodx3n47o

We also paid out in full hungerstyle other winning bet that was put on hold during this incident :

https://www.directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=12Yef7jVW6PsjJgkTZJqD5jJKoweMvt8Wk

hungerstyle informed us that this resolves this matter to his satisfaction and he signed an agreement stating that he understands what he did is against our terms and conditions and that he will refrain from doing it again in the future.



DirectBet Official Response to hungerstyle

hungerstyle is an hacker who attempted to defraud us.

He placed a live bet in-play on a Tennis match and funded it with Bitcoins that were already spent on another transaction as you can see here :



https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/89be96f6cecf47de065ea152b3d1bd969047cb282c61a4c30d82d78e38ef1ddd/

In addition, the transaction was sent with significantly low fees, more than 20 times lower than recommended !

Now why would anyone send $16,500 bet and not be willing to pay even 1 cent in fees ?

There is only one reason. This was done on purpose to give him the option not to pay for this bet in case it loses.

No one is sending $16,500 transfer without even 1 cent in fees and with coins that were already spent elsewhere, unless their intentions are fraudulent.

Upon some further investigation we found that we are not the only victims of his fraudulent activity.

The payout address that he used for this bet is 1E66h8kzMvmQobkQDDtSwxmR8SDzUxqzhd

As you can see from the link below, there is only one payment that he made from this address and it was also double spent :


https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/b8d63362b302c1a22fe821c9152ba9074e0ba51806c20cb3cd330170379baed7/

You will notice the transaction was double spent in the exact same manner he planned to double spend his bet in case it loses.

He deliberately sent it as a big sized transaction with significantly low fees at first, and later double spent it in a transaction with excessive
fees, much higher fees than required to ensure the double spend is executed immediately on the next block.

If you look at his posts you will see that for several days he tried to avoid posting the payout address of his bet, because he knew this would be an evidence of his fraudulent activity, and not just towards DirectBet.

When we first confronted him with our findings he did not deny his double spend attempt. Moreover, he agreed not to do it again if we return his original wager. However, when we asked him to sign a formal agreement he refused.

Later on he informed us that he is not the person who sent this bet transfer and that he does not own the payout address used for this bet.

When we asked to get in touch with the person who actually sent this bet transfer and who owns the payout address, he said that this person is "not available".

We will not be discussing this matter with hungerstyle any further and require that the person who sent these double spent transactions and who owns the payout address will get in touch with us and sign an agreement if he wants his coins back.

DirectBet is the most popular and trusted Crypto Currency Sportsbook. We would not have risked our reputation unless we were 100% certain this was a fraud attempt. We have additional evidence that we can not disclose for security reasons but believe that the evidence presented here is more than sufficient.

DirectBet pays out hundreds of Bitcoins in winnings every day. We have many high roller bettors who enjoy anonymous betting and instant payouts and have been voted the # 1 Sportsbook of the year by Bitcointalk members for two years in a row.

https://directbet.eu/



Update - hungerstyle lies revealed, screen capture manipulated !

To better understand how it unfolded, lets get back to the very beginning.

If you look at the screen capture that hungerstyle posted, you will notice that in the second e-mail we asked him the following question :

"In regards to the first bet # 128iBKnkKPcSPcwZEDMK7sSMJGodx3n47o, is it the first ever bet that you placed on our website ?"

His reply was "Yes", but he deliberately deleted it from the screen capture.

Why did he delete it ? because he lied and I am going to show you a proof below.

We later asked : "So you physically met someone during the Tennis match, gave him $15K in cash, and he made the BTC transfer to your bet ?"

He replied : "Correct."

This was also a lie. Check out this bet, which hungerstyle placed right before the bet in dispute :

https://directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=182zX2qwkZupeqa992EqwiahmVfg27ScUP

As you can see he first funded it with 0.007613 BTC dust just to make sure it gets through our system, then he funded it with the real bet of 31.92916466 BTC.

The big 31.92916466 BTC transfer was sent with a very low fee of 0.000014 BTC / KB, just like the bet in dispute, so that he could double spend it in case it loses, while the small dust transfer was sent with a high fee of 0.00026 BTC / KB.

However, the bet was won and so he didn't double spend it, and the bet was eventually paid out automatically.

If you follow the payout in the blockchain you will see that the same coins paid were used to fund the 36.5 BTC bet in dispute :

https://blockchain.info/tx/b5f3372906eef662ca264327255ec28028a3003ffd13b16df2083e0350002d1b

(The 34.8 BTC winnings were sent to the address # 1GyJHLY5aygkQZZjfGJXNA8UkubvGy7V57 and from there they were moved to the addresses 16MyjFgtuGAhR3Wn5TXFsB1R9JmDgcb1Bz and 1Lwpt1Kh2ex9eEdSvXSwwmZZtRYT3vg7kw which were used to fund the 36.5 BTC bet in dispute directly.)

So as you can see, he lied as this was not his first ever bet on DirectBet as he said, and he tried to hide it by deleting the e-mail from the screen capture.

As a side note, notice that for the "test" bet of 0.007613 BTC he included high fees of 0.00026 BTC / KB while for the big 32 BTC bet he included invalid fees of 0.000014 BTC / KB. Why will you pay 19 times more fees for a tiny transfer of 0.007613 BTC than for a big transfer of 32 BTC ?

Also, as you can see in his posts he claimed that he physically met a local exchange during the Tennis match, gave him $15,000 in cash in exchange for the 36.5 BTC that were transferred to the bet in dispute.

The above evidence shows that this was also a lie. The winnings from his previous 32 BTC bet were sent directly to fund his 36 BTC bet as is evident in the blockchain.

This to show you that there isn't really any "local exchange" involved and no conversion was done from USD to place this bet. He simply used his past winnings to fund this bet !

"local exchange" is just a cover story that he made to prevent us from asking real questions about the double spend attempt.



Update - Standard Universal Policy


We believe that the evidence provided is sufficient to suggest that a double spend was attempted.

When you send out a transaction with extremely low fees and a few hours later double spend it with extremely high fees, and you then repeat on the same pattern over and over again, that can not possibly be wallet misconfiguration or user error or fee saving. That's intentional fraud.

That being said, even if you disagree with the above, please note that Bitcoin Sportsbooks realize that due to the anonymous nature of Bitcoin, it may not always be possible to show to the public bullet proof evidence of fraud attempt.

For this reason, there is a standard universal rule among Bitcoin Sportsbooks that entitles them to confiscate coins when they believe a fraud is involved. Notice that we say "believe", not "prove".

All top Bitcoin Sportsbooks have the same rule, and we all confiscate coins when fraudulent activity is involved.

Hackers will always find ways to exploit and unfortunately that's the only effective measure we have to combat them.

Here is the rule of NitrogenSports :

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If Nitrogen Sports believes that any customer has intentionally acted in bad faith or has engaged in fraudulent activity, Nitrogen Sports reserves the right to take any steps necessary.

Here is the rule from BitcoinRush :

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If you are found to be cheating, colluding, or attempting to cheat at any game offered by BitcoinRush.io your account will be closed, and the funds tied to the account will be confiscated by the operators of BitcoinRush.io

BetcoinSports

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If BetcoinSports.com, in its sole discretion, believes that any player, affiliate or marketing partner has intentionally acted in bad faith or has engaged in fraudulent activity, BetcoinSports.com reserves the right to take any and all steps it deems appropriate.

We have a similar rule :

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We reserve the right to confiscate wagers when we believe that fraudulent activity is involved, including but not limited to, hacking attempts, double spends and odds manipulation. By placing a bet at DirectBet you agree that in case of any dispute DirectBet decision is final.

Notice we all say "when we believe that fraudulent activity is involved".

You might not agree with it, you might argue that it gives us too much freedom, but it is clearly stated and we are not forcing anyone to accept it and bet on our website.

During the past 2.5 years we have developed extensive knowledge, experience and tools that allow us to distinguish between fraud attempts and regular bets.

By placing bets on our website bettors accept our terms of service.

You should know that all other Sportsbooks confiscate coins due to fraud and that in most cases it is not possible to show undisputable evidence of the fraud.



Update - Resolution

As we informed hungerstyle from the very beginning, in order to resolve this matter we require him to pass a standard KYC procedure to authenticate the contact information that he provided for the agreement and we will then prepare the agreement for him to sign.

The agreement will say that he understands that what he did is against our terms and conditions and that we may confiscate his coins if he attempts to do it again. It will also say that after getting his bet back he will not have any further claims against DirectBet.

It's really the minimum we have to do given the circumstances. We assure him here in public that his contact information will remain confidential.

Even though we can confiscate his bet per our terms and conditions, we are willing to refund it as a goodwill gesture and in an effort to resolve this matter but unfortunately so far he did not cooperate.
newbie
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Correct

But when directbet say you double spend after nadal lose first set, and block chain show its not possible because it confirmed 24 hrs+ before


They just look for easy buck.

per my email in screenshot



"Hello Directbet,

Blockcypher show me few things.


Me buying btc to Directbet:
https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/89be96f6cecf47de065ea152b3d1bd969047cb282c61a4c30d82d78e38ef1ddd/

Gives warning to
https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/34a243727b11220c6ae3b03d189d8ba21561e4af5bc4fc99f7e704b91943a240/

But simply address seen
https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/address/15g236ReESnRswjVHxZwzUsxgCNhcR73CU/
  linked both mine and this.


But in 34a243727b11220c6ae3b03d189d8ba21561e4af5bc4fc99f7e704b91943a240
input BTC 1ENYCitHPwcMz2yjzQ3k9UNFN7hMXUrv4K  confirmed BLOCK 411,291

Block date 411,291 comes previous 5/11/2016  Nadal match. So you see not before
with valid input I think.

"Nadal Event : Kyrgios v Nadal

Start Time : 05/12/2016 13:30"



they never send agreement and stop answering emails warning to all to use more reputable site


As of writing this last email

Thu, May 19, 2016 at 7:01 PM
To: DirectBet <[email protected]>
Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original
Directbet

Now, What do you need of me? I try to be patient, but 72hr 49min
between communication

I really not want take time take screenshot and share.

Thanks"


Today is almost monday  with no response. Undeniable bad support.
legendary
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Is impossible to do a doble spend on directbet,because you need to wait for a confirmation
That is incorrect. If you place a bet on directbet it allows your bet to happen. Youll see your odds and payout expected well before any confirms happen. Youll need a confirm before they pay you out though.

Im not taking sides cause i havent investigated this at all, im just giving my opinion on zeaderzas thought
This is true but if direct bet is saying they have solid proof that he have tried to double spent than they should show it to this forum or atleast  to OP. Asking passport makes what sense? I can't get it doesn't bitcoin gambling mean to be anonymous?

I have bets several time with directbet and got my payment instant from them everytime. Does they review bets only when you try to bet a huge amount?  Huh

Lets see what directbet support will answer here. It will be quite early to give decision and take sides in this debate.
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Is impossible to do a doble spend on directbet,because you need to wait for a confirmation
That is incorrect. If you place a bet on directbet it allows your bet to happen. Youll see your odds and payout expected well before any confirms happen. Youll need a confirm before they pay you out though.

Im not taking sides cause i havent investigated this at all, im just giving my opinion on zeaderzas thought
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Is impossible to do a doble spend on directbet,because you need to wait for a confirmation


Exactly.

The transaction they try to say is double spend is impossible because input is spent over 24 hrs before nadal match.

Warning caution where btc comes from and avoid directbet they can just decide time to keep coin for themselves.


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Is impossible to do a doble spend on directbet,because you need to wait for a confirmation
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 WARNING
Directbet is a SCAM

Selective Scam me over 38.5 btc
Terrible slow support. Takes over 3 days to receive email support , and only email with forum posts. 

Last communication Thursday May 19

8 days no payout I lose faith give up.  I consider all lost so big player should be careful and use other reputable site and be more careful.


I place screenshot here of emails http://imgur.com/a/qn6gF

Directbet selective scam 36 and 2 btc
https://directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=128iBKnkKPcSPcwZEDMK7sSMJGodx3n47o

https://www.directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=12Yef7jVW6PsjJgkTZJqD5jJKoweMvt8Wk

Screenshot if direcbet then try to delete. : http://imgur.com/a/qn6gF


They also ask for passport, be careful.
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