Topic: WAVES - Complete Blockchain ecosystem for a token economy - page 27. (Read 131026 times)

Me too wish to know what's going on, is there a new project ? manipulation ?
As for TN, I doubt it will ever exceed 20 cents at best, I bought Elastos at 3, was expecting at least half of ATH (45-50) didn't happen. So I don't expect much from TN either.

Don't trust such kind of platform when it's too good to be true, 30% is definitely too good. There ain't no reason the team to really give that kind of return.  Looking at Vires.Finance I didn't see any 30%.


Looks very overbought already, sold everything. Done. Waiting for the price to crash. Maybe in a week, its surprising that it jump too high from $32 to $58 at a very short period of time. Whats going on?

sell 59/0012 this is.Multi year resistance.

buy 20 zone.

predicting impulsive TN 3 cents or more, x10 000 waves ratio x30 under 4 year average, target 20-30 cents could go parabolic to 34 usd be prepared.

Has anyone here staked usdt or usdc in vires finance and earn interest this way?  i am confused why they seem to advertise 50% or even 30% APY on these coins?  But are these the true rates?  Has anyone here did this for a long period of time and can confirm this?  But the rate changes daily? 



Because  if this is true, why would anyone not put lot of money into it?  if someone has 100k, they going to earn around 30k a year?  This seems way too much as  i always heard 10% is the max stablecoin rate where it isn't a concern.

This does not concern you what so ever.

Stop regurgitating platitudes when you dont know what you are talking about.

I tried to be a good little capitalist but there will only be war now against neofeudalists and royal military industrial complex.

BECAUSE THIS SHIT IS RIGGED.

and it is not because of the project whether or not it is commercial failure it is the things that were illuminated during development over 4 years.

If these mofos would have not bothered with the power moves then this would have evaporated in peace and quiet, instead they are trying to provoke people who will take action sooner or later if I can only find out who it is.

Some things are determined by birth status especially top 1 % stuff but of course this is something you dont understand, something I did not until recently.

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I can tell you this,

CMC tracking
Waves ticker
Wavescap listing
Top 20 IEO

easy 3-4 million USDT overnight monetization and then what will happen, how far can this moon? Look at Apes 14 billion cap but it is too early to conclude in peak bull, let is experience deep bear first then we know for sure. But still, this is the first of its type so 4m is on the low spectrum, 100m not impossible maybe few billion if Binance.

So maybe you understand why I am furious over this it is alot of money involved but these turds think waves M2 is the big prize it is not it is the ERC-20 which they cannot influence.

All this sabotaging and gatekeeping is useless waste of time and money for them because if only 1 top exchange agrees to IEO, it is over.

I am already receiving good offers from some top 40 but its 10k fee which because of the sabotage I do not have. And it should be top 25 or higher to really be sure of the multi million profit I am not so sure about anything lower because Uniswap and Waves are quite highly ranked on the dex side anf it does not provide traction regardless.

Waves m2 is novelty value because of 4 year price tracking data compared to all other NFTx vaults which are 2021 or later as they did not invent or even think about this thing while I was filing a patent for it way back in 2018.

https://tc.prv.se/aktinsyn/servlet/akt/?lang=sv&ansnr=18001404

The investors in m2 are by the grace of generosity handed a small fortune from E.2 of this collection which I do not owe anyone to provide as the Original ERC-20 backed by E.1 is much more valuable without diluting supply base.

http://dev.pywaves.org/assets/BS1KFNR8zrXKBEWdUUvpaP6G57Hic3aESkwK7qQKdLpB

https://opensea.io/collection/pimpfashion2

They are instructed to swap if 20m or more because support for Waves M2 will freeze due to consistent sabotage by waves and their henchmen. So I will exit with all money from waves and find something else and wait for Opensea sales.

https://etherscan.io/token/0xa4daae9552cd2390ee1dcdd1a76bc8d0eea22609

https://opensea.io/collection/marquise-museum-s-pimp-fashion

Waves does not provide anything of lasting value whereas this catalogue is a historical cultural crypto artifact that will only increase in value over time same as Warhol and other 20th century pioneers.

Waves pumpers mistakenly look at vires LTV and think that it is real money flowing in but it is the waves price increase that is causing the number inflation.

And wx seriously, no comment.

So like I said long time ago on twitter with Sign art and their own NFT ducks this is 300 kg ERC-20 Gorilla that is being sabotaged by puny competitors with very small brain who cannot innovate only copy from others.

Soon they will find the price for such sabotage well it is the price of many millions which will NOT go into Waves anymore. It will be directed into other systems.

It is your responsibility as an investor to find the real valuable projects and invest in them with clarity of mind but how is this possible when it is being usurped and hidden in the attic by some power hungry tyrants?

From this I make the case that we are not dealing in a free market system anymore or if it ever was. This is now a Neofeudal manorial realm.

With this usurping expect strong kickback by the ones who are not part of the insider group, very strong such as warfare. This is a collision of ideologies and core business ethics which prevents global conflict, these people dont understand such things they think they can fuck people over and claim vast fortunes without enabling legitimate projects to share in the new wealth and believe that there are no any consequences? Wrong.

This is high level stuff I propose you go back to retail speculating on Binance futures and enjoy getting rekt by their liquidation algos.

You would not know value if it stared you in the face, which it is right now. Evident by your snarky comment and lack of insight into the matter.

The only thing I agree with is the persistently low organic activity in key traction areas like social, website, market and importantly Opensea but as long as there is no sale it does not rank on their leadersboard so no one can find it because there are ten thousand artists there now.

But to say that I blame everyone else completely is incorrect this was a slow starter since the beginning it could be the technical quality or lack thereof or some other execution point I dont know but the sabotage does not exactly help at all.

The 2018 patent was supposed to be the foundational revenue generator for the Museum the art was only a place holder to demonstrate the integration. It this patent had been approved I would be collecting royalty on every APE trade on Binance right now $$$

I understood early in the application process which obtained WIPO IPC Priority that it would be impossible to uphold and legall protect without a team of lawyers on retainer. Imagine trying to fight Binance in court over this?? Too many loop holes and cost prohibitive so the focus was redirected into the art itself.

People want to buy the distraction, ducks apes, let them burn their capital on fads it is part of the natural selection..

I think I am not the only one here who doen't understand or care what you're saying, you tried a project, it failed, move on, stop blaming others for the failure.

I will try and arrange a commissioned IEO for the ERC-20 which is 100% intact and indiluted since 2017 inorder to monetize the illiquid 3m USDT. It is the first art backed crypto vault so there may or may not be value because of that reason.

The vaulting system is secondary to Openseas inherent auction mechanism as the liquidity support can be provided inside the platform. The benefit of the vault is for fractionalization and collateralizing NFTs.

M2 investors new and old will stand to profit from swapping 20m tokens in exchange for 1 NFT because the proposed value of E.2 batch is 30.000 USDT per unit and this price is adjusted quarterly.

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To those who tried to sabotage this project since inception, you have failed.

You can try and:

-copy something but it will not be valuable whether Apes or Ducks, it does not matter.

-block it from visibility like Wavescap

-block the ticker like Waves association

-sabotage the trading in waves by manipulating price it will not work, you have failed this psyop. It is over because the true value is in the ERC-20. You mistakenly tried to be the big gordon gekkos but you are children who dont understand how generational value is created.

-Sabotage TurtleNetwork market. It is mentally deranged and not a free market system because the price of TN should be 20 cents right now not half cent, so what is going on do you expect to create some kind of successful manipulation when making such amateur behaviour? It is a comedy but unfortunately the laughing part is costing me money and time so who is paying for this?

So for the last time, M2 owners with 20m tokens you can swap this for your NFTs on Opensea and we forget about M2 for a while until the sabotage stops when the enemy understands that they dont control the source of this value which is Opensea and ERC-20. The waves token is not important anymore and now that everybodys true face was revealed, I will never put another dollar into this crap.

This is not a decentralized free market it is neofeudalist and it is of the worst type.

There is curiosity value in M2 token because of 4 year price tracking data but it does not warrant any form of spending until there is sales or organic activity. And most importantly with the amount of sabotage absolutely all money flow on my part will stop, tomorrow 2000 USDT out until the manipulation and economic warfare stops. next week 1500 USDT more, not going into this, next month same and so on. All money, *out*.

And if the ERC-20 IEO is successful with 3 million USDT, zero money going into waves ecosystem, that's 0.

the least of thing provide a proof to support your claim

M2 waves market will deactivate because of high order fees, no organic activity/no ticker verification and failure of TN to deliver after waiting 2 years

Investors with over 20m M2 should swap tokens for E.2 NFTs as liquidity is removed from waves

100 $USDT fee per swap and KYC is also required

https://www.marquisemuseum.com/cube

Hehe, I was also thinking: If it was so easy for him to pull this off: why didn't he do it earlier? and why didn't he take over the crypto market already? 
The pump is pretty incredible, but other Alts have seen similar ones in the past. Let's see for how long the price will go up and stay high this time. Last May the happy days of ATHs in the $30-40s only lasted for a bit longer than a week!

Are you not actually embarrassed to write such nonsense here? For anyone who is somewhat familiar with the matter and the project, it is easy to refute your claim. Sasha must really be a genius if he could do everything that you write here

well %95 of  all coins belong to one single guy.the owner sasha ivanov.
so he can pump it to eternity if he wants which he is doing right now.
making hundreds of millions longing on futures and pumping his coin,2 birds one stone.
this is crypto at its worst ladies and gentleman.

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It's kind of hard for me to follow this post of yours.

Which founder are you talking about? The TN founder? Swop.fi founder?
Which pair they tried to provide volume on? TN/USDN?

Talking about Swop.fi, I am wondering a bit which direction this platform will go in the future. First it was pools, which was fine, but then WX came and pools seem obsolete now on swop.fi, volume and TVL is like 90% down since then. WX soon will have more pools than swop.fi with much higher volume. In the meantime swop.fi now has the launchpad, which could be a nice feature, but then again this will also come on WX in the future (which also makes more sense to me).
swop.fi also has the burning feature to win NFTs, which looks to me more like a desperate attempt to preserve some unique feature on the platform (and to keep the price of SWOP up). This feature is also so very different from swop.fi's original use-case that it probably confuses new users more than being useful.

I would like to see some solid improved roadmap for swop.fi. I saw the one on the website, but it is more "adding features to the pool feature" than anything else. I do like the interface, but I don't see it's necessity anymore. (There is at least some innovation on the puzzle platform with the multipools for instance)

As it is currently you could probably close it (or make it an alternative interface to WX pools) and exchange outstanding SWOP for some of the team's WX tokens? Or completely re-build its purpose around a strong distinct use-case. What do you guys think about that?

500k unleased again and it is not cause for celebration it is an indicator that the founder fucked up big time and doesn't know what he is doing with Fintech side.

https://wavesexplorer.com/address/3PA1KvFfq9VuJjg45p2ytGgaNjrgnLSgf4r/tx

They tried to provide bot volume on swop for several months after listing but truth is, it is expensive like $1000 or more per month to sustain 100k weekly volume for swop apy.

First order of business must be to stop the market bombing of TN and get it back up to 3 cents and make sure that there is liquidity so that it does not keep underperforming the rest of crypto by a factor of x10. If a market is mismanaged on this level the only effect will be that your investor confidence is nullified.

Polarity outsourcing oracle is ok the native dex isn't required but this guy has his work set out for him to regain community trust. Lots of work to get back to square one, no more globe trotter and sports cars for the little Neofeudal lord until he shares the profit with the other investors who waited 2-4 years.

Making money in crypto is good if the dev is also good at his job but sitting on top of others and shitting on them while raking in $10k per month it reflects really badly on the person as a human from an ethical point of view.

Fine you do a shit job you dont get paid, find another job then sitting here like the Neofeudal gatekeeper.

Like I said before with the level of privilege this guy had with the node, wavescap, cmc, swop, wa and the list goes on, if I had this for a good project with solid fundamentals like TN or M2 trading at $40k-$400k cap, after a few months this will be $20m caps easy mode if you know how to manage and operate a FinTech business which he dont because he is a coder not a CEO.

Yea, I can understand your concern. However in the crypto space you can see much higher interests, but you should also be prepared to lose everything. So only invest what you can afford to lose.

You get interest every single block, that is every minute! For $1000 & 25% you should get around $0.0005 every minute (or $0.01 every 20 minutes) if I my calculation is correct. Apart from that, this is the way to go: Convert or send 1000 USDC to the Waves blockchain, log into Vires and supply it there.
It is good to quiestion the different stablecoins and I personally also prefer USDC over USDT, but it's impossible to say which is safer.

It's good to ask all those questions for sure. I was looking a bit into Nexo, and they also have risks involved:
https://seekingalpha.com/article/4411029-nexo-risk-analysis-and-customers-review
https://www.reddit.com/r/Nexo/comments/cnrr31/earn_8_interest_what_is_the_catch/
To me it's also not clear where their 12% interest comes from. Somebody has to pay for that. It's either coming from the stablecoin (but this is unlikely as other exchanges like Binance or Kucoin pay much lower interests on USDT) or from Nexo themselves. Maybe they are cross-financing this somehow with some other product they are offering (like issueing Nexo tokens or trading profits). Maybe Nexo is putting your money even on different platforms like Vires to earn even higher profits and only pay the customers parts of that.
There are many ways to earn in the DeFi space. Like if you take Pancakeswap for instance. You can put your money in pools or farms there to earn APYs of up to 400%. Of course those are pools of volatile currencies, but this can be very profitable for some time anyway. I find it totally plausbile that there are people borrowing stablecoins on Vires (or other platforms), paying 30% interest for them and investing them into such high yield pools. Of course another question is how long are such high yields sustainable. So far it seems to work, but nobody knows how long this can go on.

Nobody wil be able to tell you what is the safest investment between Vires, other Waves products, Nexo or Blockfi. Any of those platforms might or might not exist in a couple of years from now. None of them are "classical" banks with funds protected by goverment regulation.

One advantage of the Waves platform is that creating an account is not subject to any KYC. For instance, I read today that Blockfi apparently had a leak of customer data (https://coingape.com/just-in-blockfi-data-breach/). I don't think something like this is even possible for Waves wallets. You would lose maximum your email address here (but this might also be impossible as the data is likely not stored in a centralized manner).

As you point out, one difference between Nexo/Blockfi and Waves is that Waves updates their APYs constantly (most products for every single block/minute), so the APYs are fluctuating much stronger here. You can check the past APYs on Vires by checking the "Stats" section at the bottom of the coin pages (e.g. https://vires.finance/markets/6XtHjpXbs9RRJP2Sr9GUyVqzACcby9TkThHXnjVC5CDJ).

Are you saying TurtleNetwork will be 34 USD a piece ? Unless you pull exposure from Elon Musk like for Shiba or Doge I don't realistically think it will happen.

20 cent move in TN is a sneeze for waves whales who are moving tens of millions on Binance every day.

34 USD is the real target, x7500 multiple.

Same as ARRR pump, same money who need to find new home because inflation is eating it every day. All the other good projects already x10 or more, TN is the only one left on baseline 2020 valuation, not for long. But it can take 9 months be prepared for patience.

And who is running TurtleNetwork ?
Unless whole market goes up, I don't see TN going to 10 or 20 cents
Been hearing about 100+ Waves since last bull run, best it did is 45, I barely see it any higher than that, I see 70-80 more likely which is almost x100 if you bought sub 10.

Sell waves 32.5 buy TurtleNetwork 7000:1 ratio baseline should be 300:1, once in decade opportunity.
Buy back waves at 14-15 and wait for TN 0.15

There are other passive income coins like Sushi worth a fraction of waves right now, lots of competition waves seems to be moving without correlation to rest of market and that is not sustainable until the rest of market moves, waves is not first mover by far.

8 to 24 in 30 days fully plausible +200% move in my book but now its back at ath territory its a bit too much +500% in 30 days looks more like this could be the blow off top in that case.

If we get a retracement to 15 level then sure, triple digit is on the table otherwise looks like supercycle double top 42 then hardcore bear mode next few years.

By the way Ivanov, if you are pushing the Ukraine nationality angle and seeking sympathy, then try and repay the WUSD victims of your scam first.
My top investor in M2 was scammed for 7000 waves after Ivanov closed WUSD market in 2020. So could you repay this 7000 waves to him and then we can get on the sympathy train...

Here is his wallet, show us now what a great honest man from Ukraine you are

3PPTYsB78vQ5B7to1PHmgW6Bqdkkfavdcjn

And shut down Waves association let the community vote for verified tickers.
They like to sabotage the hard work of others when they dont know who you are dealing with, bad idea.

Waiting with $1000 for waves but if no retracement I am putting it in another Defi coin that did not go up 500% in 30 days...

It is good for waves to progresss in value, better than the 8 dollar descent but risk is not good reward until there is an opening in the marketplace. For this reason the money is parked in TurtleNetwork with lowball offers because dump manipulators have to eat the loss and get burnt so they understand that they are not Gordon Gecko in here.

Waiting for 0.0035 or less x10 000 to waves rate and lets see how your dump will profit when TN goes too 10 cents in april...

The Blackturtle leasing whales will abandon the node when they see how poorly the founder is managing his own project. This guy had the gravy train with CMC and swop (worth 400k usd this listing alone worth more than tn market cap). If this was my project I would not buy porsche with the profit I would keep monetizing the TN and make the big money so this is a symbol of incompetnce and he will be punished for it by losing whale leasers.

Already this month he lost 600k waves to waves world maybe time to rethink the strategy...