Topic: WAVES - Complete Blockchain ecosystem for a token economy - page 30. (Read 131026 times)
Turtlenetwork 3000 times cheaper than waves trading x10 too low compared to sector valuation.
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/turtlenetwork/
https://swop.fi/info/3PCdNCULgjM9ZMLEt61M45qxV26ro6o48Jj
https://polarity.exchange/dex?assetId2=TN&assetId1=7RB3BWayeCVPq3kkpkeJZAFv2DYCB5gEwnutEpRofaw4
https://waves.exchange/trading/spot/TN_WAVES
https://waves.exchange/trading/spot/TN_USDN
Same technology and dex as waves so its like buying waves for halv cent.
You will not have time to buy soon because 1 cents sell wall will be wiped and swop will be insta pushed to 2 cents, this is the last chance at halv cent, then 7 cent.
$6000 investment is worth $60 000 next month try and make this profit on futures trading waves not possible. Only room for 1 investor then the liquidity at 1 cent is gone next level 2 cents instant 100% profit from a single trade if you have the money ready now.
Only sell TN when waves ratio is 300 or lower, it is now 3000 times lower, see what will happen very shortly everytime price is x3000 or more difference, it will vertical pump. If it doesnt pump it means waves back to $7.
If you going to stake waves, is every single pool that is shown there safe? Thus there is no risk to your waves? The only issue would be some of those pools might not pay you waves or pay you on time?
I notice some pays a little more than others... while others pay weekly, some monthly and others even daily.
There is one waves pool where I staked a while back and still see it available. Thus best to stick with a pool that you used before with no issue? I remember they seem to always pay out waves every week or so.
Also I remember I read somewhere that if you have at least x amount of waves, I believe it was at least 1,000 waves, you could start a staking pool or something like that? Obviously that is a ton of waves to have. But if you could buy that much or get it, what is the benefit of it? Could you earn more waves that way as oppose to taking them?
Also is there a reason that waves staking percentage changes? A while back I recall it was always 6%? Now its less?
I notice some pays a little more than others... while others pay weekly, some monthly and others even daily.
There is one waves pool where I staked a while back and still see it available. Thus best to stick with a pool that you used before with no issue? I remember they seem to always pay out waves every week or so.
Also I remember I read somewhere that if you have at least x amount of waves, I believe it was at least 1,000 waves, you could start a staking pool or something like that? Obviously that is a ton of waves to have. But if you could buy that much or get it, what is the benefit of it? Could you earn more waves that way as oppose to taking them?
Also is there a reason that waves staking percentage changes? A while back I recall it was always 6%? Now its less?
Waves $14-$22 then below $3
w5 blow off $76-$84 possibly pierce $200.
then $4.2.
TN 2 cents then continuation 20 cents ($0.00565 2022-02-25)
Waves $14-$22 then below $3
Stablecoin regulation and centralized crypto will cause supercycle bear 2022-2025
Starting today investors on waves and TurtleNetwork can purchase Marquise Museum NFT catalogue at 90% discount compared to Opensea auction rates.
Edition .2 with 28 images will be price adjusted tonight from $300 to $30 000 and 20m M2 swap tokens on waves for 1 NFT cost $400, so the first who buys it gets large discount to encourage market activity. All previous M2 investors with over 20m can already redeem their crypto for NFTs on website.
http://dev.pywaves.org/assets/BS1KFNR8zrXKBEWdUUvpaP6G57Hic3aESkwK7qQKdLpB
https://opensea.io/collection/pimpfashion2
https://waves.exchange/trading/spot/BS1KFNR8zrXKBEWdUUvpaP6G57Hic3aESkwK7qQKdLpB_WAVES
Edition .3 containing the same NFTs is also for sale in exchange for 4m TN at 90% discount when sold in bulk please read the offer as the buyer makes immediate x10 paper profit and the 4m TN raised will be leased on TN native dex to provide buyback liquidity to the new vault owner.
https://docdro.id/p275zRW
https://opensea.io/collection/pimpfashion3
https://wallet.turtlenetwork.eu/dex?assetId2=9EdFjezCLwhjeNpgC3fyVgLpttwmq4DRc3krgHBizKks&assetId1=TN
Edition .1 is reserved for institutional buyer at $100 000 floor and 1 of these 3 collections will remain in Museum permanent exhibition so the total available public supply is 70 artworks priced between $6000-$30 000.
This digital catalogue was patent examined in 2018 and is a progenitor of the NFT vaulting system. It was appraised to $4m in july 2021 but the erc-20 lacks custom coding in the smart contract so now it is trading at discount.
https://opensea.io/collection/marquise-museum-s-pimp-fashion
https://docdro.id/d42ND6g
https://etherscan.io/token/0xa4daae9552cd2390ee1dcdd1a76bc8d0eea22609
After evaluating NFT market since march 2021 the new conclusion is that this old appraisal is correct at $4m regardless of any custom coding because there are other important unique things with this collection compared to other 2017 art backed cryptos. So E.1 floor remains at $100k and 30 year value will be same growth rate as Warhol 1960-1995 outperforming stocks 3:1 as a pioneer in its category of blockchain integrated art. If you are prospecting NFT for generational store of value this is the place to start with a caveat that liquidity is still poor because of gatekeeping by waves association and CMC.
By the way I am recommending TN to wealthy investors here in Prague they are interested in swop. TN is trading at substance value when $500k because swop listing is worth $400k.
Risk is extremely high but risk reward is ok for a few thousand. Investing in my NFTs is 0% risk because instant x10 paper profit and 95% unlimited refund.
Are developers or responsible persons from Waves also reading here in this thread? I would be interested to know if there are any plans to set up and support a Tezos gateway on the Waves Exchange?
To anyone that store their waves with nano ledger and LOGIN by LEDGER... can you also LOGIN by SOFTWARE option and enter the same password and log in that way and thus access your waves nano ledger account that way as well?
So I spoke with waves reps on this and even they were confused. That is the reason why I am describing it in detail.
I opened wave exchange desktop client. I then decided to click on login by LEDGER. I entered the same exact waves password I use for login by SOFTWARE. When I did this, I was logged in. I still do not know why this is possible with the same password. Because when I created a new waves nano ledger account under SOFTWARE login, I remember they never asked me to create a new password. So its essentially the same password. Waves representatives said it should been a password I created during the process when I created my waves nano ledger account and I mentioned they never asked me to create a new password.
I see I am logged into my waves nano ledger account address. First off, waves representatives told me I needed my nano ledger physically connected to my pc if I click login by LEDGER... they were incorrect in this. The person was surprised that I was able to log in to my account this way without the nano ledger connected to my computer. Then a bit later they said they were incorrect. You do not need the ledger connected physically to log in with LEDGER option.
Now when I go to switch account, I literally see the other two seed phrase accounts as well. I have the same exact accounts showing... two seed phrase accounts and the waves nano ledger account. So if right now I close waves exchange desktop client. Then open it again and login by SOFTWARE... its of course the same three accounts. I then told waves reps on this and they said yea... you are right. So basically there is zero difference whether I login by LEDGER or SOFTWARE because I'm entering the same exact password. I have access to all three accounts... the waves nano ledger account and the two seed phrase accounts. If I want to do a transaction with the waves nano ledger account, I need to connect my nano ledger to my pc whether I'm logged in LEDGER or SOFTWARE. For the seed phrase accounts... doesn't matter if I"m logged in LEDGER or SOFTWARE, i don't need the nano ledger connected because those are seed based accounts.
So based on this, does this all sound confusing to you? I had few poster say I shouldn't click on the SOFTWARE option and should click on LEDGER to log in. It's literally the same exact thing. Unless waves reps made another mistake somewhere in this. When I had typed in my SOFTWARE password into LEDGER Login and it worked, I had thought the only account that would show up is the waves nano ledger account. Why is my two seed phrase accounts also connected as well then?
So let say I uninstall and reinstall the waves exchange desktop client. And then login with nano ledger device... I know I would need to create a new password but would this would also mean it is going to restore all three accounts including the two seed phrase accounts OR only the waves nano ledger account? So if you restore it with the nano ledger seed phrase, will it restore all three accounts or just that waves nano ledger account?
So I spoke with waves reps on this and even they were confused. That is the reason why I am describing it in detail.
I opened wave exchange desktop client. I then decided to click on login by LEDGER. I entered the same exact waves password I use for login by SOFTWARE. When I did this, I was logged in. I still do not know why this is possible with the same password. Because when I created a new waves nano ledger account under SOFTWARE login, I remember they never asked me to create a new password. So its essentially the same password. Waves representatives said it should been a password I created during the process when I created my waves nano ledger account and I mentioned they never asked me to create a new password.
I see I am logged into my waves nano ledger account address. First off, waves representatives told me I needed my nano ledger physically connected to my pc if I click login by LEDGER... they were incorrect in this. The person was surprised that I was able to log in to my account this way without the nano ledger connected to my computer. Then a bit later they said they were incorrect. You do not need the ledger connected physically to log in with LEDGER option.
Now when I go to switch account, I literally see the other two seed phrase accounts as well. I have the same exact accounts showing... two seed phrase accounts and the waves nano ledger account. So if right now I close waves exchange desktop client. Then open it again and login by SOFTWARE... its of course the same three accounts. I then told waves reps on this and they said yea... you are right. So basically there is zero difference whether I login by LEDGER or SOFTWARE because I'm entering the same exact password. I have access to all three accounts... the waves nano ledger account and the two seed phrase accounts. If I want to do a transaction with the waves nano ledger account, I need to connect my nano ledger to my pc whether I'm logged in LEDGER or SOFTWARE. For the seed phrase accounts... doesn't matter if I"m logged in LEDGER or SOFTWARE, i don't need the nano ledger connected because those are seed based accounts.
So based on this, does this all sound confusing to you? I had few poster say I shouldn't click on the SOFTWARE option and should click on LEDGER to log in. It's literally the same exact thing. Unless waves reps made another mistake somewhere in this. When I had typed in my SOFTWARE password into LEDGER Login and it worked, I had thought the only account that would show up is the waves nano ledger account. Why is my two seed phrase accounts also connected as well then?
So let say I uninstall and reinstall the waves exchange desktop client. And then login with nano ledger device... I know I would need to create a new password but would this would also mean it is going to restore all three accounts including the two seed phrase accounts OR only the waves nano ledger account? So if you restore it with the nano ledger seed phrase, will it restore all three accounts or just that waves nano ledger account?
Can waves support or another waves holder here who uses waves with nano ledger confirm this statement to my question by poster jc12345 is indeed 100% correct? If so, then I believe I did link my waves to nano ledger correctly.
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Also right now... I open waves exchange desktop client and enter my local waves account password in order to get into my account. When I do this, the first account I see is one of my seed phrase account. I then click switch account and I could switch to another waves seed phrase account I have.. and also the waves account I just created linked to the nano ledger. I could see the balance in all of these. So this is the correct way for me to log into my waves account right? Because I already have a waves account in a NON EMAIL account, that is the method for me to log in? It did not let me sign up for a new account on the same pc when I tried to click on ledger/waveskeeper. For example when you open the waves exchange client, i always click on logging in the software method and entering my waves local password... then when i do that... i then have access to my two waves seed phrase accounts... and the waves linked nano ledger acccount. I would have thought... wouldn't i connect with clicking on logging in with the middle option which is the ledger or waveskeeper option? But because of my old setup... the way im doing it is correct right?
He said
When you initially created your Waves Exchange master account, it was a shell to add in any other wallet addresses you have. These addresses can be software accounts which you load by typing in a sequence of words or "seed phrase" as you call it. You can also add Ledger wallet addresses. All these addresses that you add will go into your master account on Waves Exchange. If you want to get rid of this, then move all your Waves from all your software wallet addresses to the wallet address on your Ledger device, then all your Waves will be safe. Then you can uninstall Waves Exchange and re-install, create a new master account and only link your Ledger Waves addresses, then all your old Waves wallet addresses will be gone. Should you ever want to add them again, just add an account and type in the seedphrase and they will be added to the list of addresses you see after you type in the password of your master exchange account.
Right now I am logging into my waves exchange master account by clicking on software and then entering my password. The key point here is he said you can also add ledger wallet addresses. Thus my waves nano wallet account was added this way. I have two seed phrase accounts and one waves nano ledge account once I log into my waves master account via software password. I can keep it like this as my way of login even after I send all my waves from the other seed phrase accounts to the waves nano ledger account right?
He says I can uninstall waves exchange and reinstall and create a new master account and only link my ledger wallet addresses with the second option of ledger as oppose to software. So doing this would have me create a new master account with new master password right? But is there any difference between doing that... compared to just the way I log in now? Security is still exactly the same thing right? He mentioned it is. I would like to also hear from people who have their waves stored in their nano ledger... but also have a waves seed phrase account as well on the same pc. I mean if I could just send all my waves from all my seed phrase accounts to the waves nano ledger account... under the software password login... can't i just keep it like this? So each time I log in, it would be click on log in by software, then just using the waves nano ledger from there? Or if say it shows one of my seed phrase accounts with 0 waves, just click switch account to the waves nano ledger account and then do everything from there?
He mention should you ever want to add them again, just add an account and type in the seed phrase and they will be added to the list of addresses you see after you type in the password of your master exchange account. So you are telling me if you log in by the second ledger option, you can also add software seed phrase accounts as well? So basically your waves exchange master account... whether you log in by ledger or software, is essentially the same thing? So why do people log in with ledger... vs software?
Also why is there not more discussion on this? This is much more complicated for people that already have a waves seed address with waves in the waves exchange desktop client... and then wanting to move the waves to the nano ledger. I would not be shocked if someone makes a mistake somewhere during this process such as thinking they did it correctly when they didn't. There is literally no video that shows on how to do this where you are doing this under the software login option.
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Also right now... I open waves exchange desktop client and enter my local waves account password in order to get into my account. When I do this, the first account I see is one of my seed phrase account. I then click switch account and I could switch to another waves seed phrase account I have.. and also the waves account I just created linked to the nano ledger. I could see the balance in all of these. So this is the correct way for me to log into my waves account right? Because I already have a waves account in a NON EMAIL account, that is the method for me to log in? It did not let me sign up for a new account on the same pc when I tried to click on ledger/waveskeeper. For example when you open the waves exchange client, i always click on logging in the software method and entering my waves local password... then when i do that... i then have access to my two waves seed phrase accounts... and the waves linked nano ledger acccount. I would have thought... wouldn't i connect with clicking on logging in with the middle option which is the ledger or waveskeeper option? But because of my old setup... the way im doing it is correct right?
He said
When you initially created your Waves Exchange master account, it was a shell to add in any other wallet addresses you have. These addresses can be software accounts which you load by typing in a sequence of words or "seed phrase" as you call it. You can also add Ledger wallet addresses. All these addresses that you add will go into your master account on Waves Exchange. If you want to get rid of this, then move all your Waves from all your software wallet addresses to the wallet address on your Ledger device, then all your Waves will be safe. Then you can uninstall Waves Exchange and re-install, create a new master account and only link your Ledger Waves addresses, then all your old Waves wallet addresses will be gone. Should you ever want to add them again, just add an account and type in the seedphrase and they will be added to the list of addresses you see after you type in the password of your master exchange account.
Right now I am logging into my waves exchange master account by clicking on software and then entering my password. The key point here is he said you can also add ledger wallet addresses. Thus my waves nano wallet account was added this way. I have two seed phrase accounts and one waves nano ledge account once I log into my waves master account via software password. I can keep it like this as my way of login even after I send all my waves from the other seed phrase accounts to the waves nano ledger account right?
He says I can uninstall waves exchange and reinstall and create a new master account and only link my ledger wallet addresses with the second option of ledger as oppose to software. So doing this would have me create a new master account with new master password right? But is there any difference between doing that... compared to just the way I log in now? Security is still exactly the same thing right? He mentioned it is. I would like to also hear from people who have their waves stored in their nano ledger... but also have a waves seed phrase account as well on the same pc. I mean if I could just send all my waves from all my seed phrase accounts to the waves nano ledger account... under the software password login... can't i just keep it like this? So each time I log in, it would be click on log in by software, then just using the waves nano ledger from there? Or if say it shows one of my seed phrase accounts with 0 waves, just click switch account to the waves nano ledger account and then do everything from there?
He mention should you ever want to add them again, just add an account and type in the seed phrase and they will be added to the list of addresses you see after you type in the password of your master exchange account. So you are telling me if you log in by the second ledger option, you can also add software seed phrase accounts as well? So basically your waves exchange master account... whether you log in by ledger or software, is essentially the same thing? So why do people log in with ledger... vs software?
Also why is there not more discussion on this? This is much more complicated for people that already have a waves seed address with waves in the waves exchange desktop client... and then wanting to move the waves to the nano ledger. I would not be shocked if someone makes a mistake somewhere during this process such as thinking they did it correctly when they didn't. There is literally no video that shows on how to do this where you are doing this under the software login option.
Okay I am going to make this as simple as possible to not sound confusing.
For anyone that has waves and store them in their nano ledger. How are you logging into your account?
Open Waves Exchange Desktop Client or Open it on Browser.
Click Log In
On the option of Access my account, option is email, ledger and software. Does almost everyone click on ledger to login using your ledger device? My issue is right now... I am still clicking on software. Then I enter my waves password to it... to access my 2 waves seed phrase accounts and the 1 waves nano ledger account I recently created.
Should I be logging in with the second option of ledger device... as oppose to software... if I then move all my waves from the seed phrase accounts to the nano ledger account? If I still want waves in my seed phrase accounts and the waves nano ledger account, do I keep it the way I am using it right now?
The thing is I have not seen anyone mention they log in to their waves nano ledger account the way I do. Which is log in via software option... then switch account to the waves nano ledger account since I have 2 waves seed phrase accounts.
My concern is because I am clicking on software and then my waves password to get to my waves nano ledger account, if something happens to my computer or nano ledger... the way i have it set up is not correct.... compared to people who just created a waves nano ledger account and clicked on log in by ledger device as oppose to software. Does this make sense in what I"m saying? I do know you can switch account and add as much accounts you want in software... but I want to make sure there isn't any issues with recovery because the way I have it set up... I don't hear anyone have their waves nano ledger set up this way.
For anyone that has waves and store them in their nano ledger. How are you logging into your account?
Open Waves Exchange Desktop Client or Open it on Browser.
Click Log In
On the option of Access my account, option is email, ledger and software. Does almost everyone click on ledger to login using your ledger device? My issue is right now... I am still clicking on software. Then I enter my waves password to it... to access my 2 waves seed phrase accounts and the 1 waves nano ledger account I recently created.
Should I be logging in with the second option of ledger device... as oppose to software... if I then move all my waves from the seed phrase accounts to the nano ledger account? If I still want waves in my seed phrase accounts and the waves nano ledger account, do I keep it the way I am using it right now?
The thing is I have not seen anyone mention they log in to their waves nano ledger account the way I do. Which is log in via software option... then switch account to the waves nano ledger account since I have 2 waves seed phrase accounts.
My concern is because I am clicking on software and then my waves password to get to my waves nano ledger account, if something happens to my computer or nano ledger... the way i have it set up is not correct.... compared to people who just created a waves nano ledger account and clicked on log in by ledger device as oppose to software. Does this make sense in what I"m saying? I do know you can switch account and add as much accounts you want in software... but I want to make sure there isn't any issues with recovery because the way I have it set up... I don't hear anyone have their waves nano ledger set up this way.
Hey man thanks for the response. Well my only concern is just the way I log into my waves desktop exchange account now assuming I send most or all of the waves to the waves nano ledger account.
Again, I am
Opening Waves Exchange Desktop Client
Logging in by clicking on the software option and then typing in my local password
Then the account I am on... is either one of the two seed phrase accounts or the waves nano ledger account. But of course I can click on switch account and go to any of the accounts. Again I have no issue logging in this way each time but this would be the way for seed phrase wallets only. It just feel strange always logging in this way when you have a waves nano ledger account.
This is different from how I assume most people log into their waves nano ledger account which would be
Opening Waves Exchange Desktop Client
Logging in by clicking on the ledger option and then typing in the local password
The instruction video on the waves site, literally shows creating a waves nano ledger account as if this is the first time someone is creating a waves account. They don't show a video of someone already having a waves seed phrase account on the same computer and showing that.
But right now, can I open the waves exchange desktop client and log in with second option of ledger... and type the same local password im using right now to log into software wallet which i always done? When you mentioned this, that had me confused because how could it be the same local password since logging into the second option of ledger... wouldn't that be completely different? I would have though you needed to create a new account and thus another local password if you want to log in via second method ledger vs... software.
Yea im concerned about this because I want to make sure everything is correct. Because I am not sure i set up my waves with nano ledger correctly because Im not clicking the log in via ledger second method each time and clicking on software wallet each time. There doesn't seem to be issue now, but my concern is if I do a restore of laptop or the seed later on.
Again, I am
Opening Waves Exchange Desktop Client
Logging in by clicking on the software option and then typing in my local password
Then the account I am on... is either one of the two seed phrase accounts or the waves nano ledger account. But of course I can click on switch account and go to any of the accounts. Again I have no issue logging in this way each time but this would be the way for seed phrase wallets only. It just feel strange always logging in this way when you have a waves nano ledger account.
This is different from how I assume most people log into their waves nano ledger account which would be
Opening Waves Exchange Desktop Client
Logging in by clicking on the ledger option and then typing in the local password
The instruction video on the waves site, literally shows creating a waves nano ledger account as if this is the first time someone is creating a waves account. They don't show a video of someone already having a waves seed phrase account on the same computer and showing that.
But right now, can I open the waves exchange desktop client and log in with second option of ledger... and type the same local password im using right now to log into software wallet which i always done? When you mentioned this, that had me confused because how could it be the same local password since logging into the second option of ledger... wouldn't that be completely different? I would have though you needed to create a new account and thus another local password if you want to log in via second method ledger vs... software.
Yea im concerned about this because I want to make sure everything is correct. Because I am not sure i set up my waves with nano ledger correctly because Im not clicking the log in via ledger second method each time and clicking on software wallet each time. There doesn't seem to be issue now, but my concern is if I do a restore of laptop or the seed later on.
Look, with all due respect, I have answered everything you asked and advised you the best I could. Do what I advised, but since you seem very concerned, test everything first and make sure everything works as I advised to be sure for yourself. Remember with crypto there never is 100% risk free. Everyone in crypto knows that and knows that at some point they will lose coins or make typos or setup an account wrong and lose coins. That is part of the game. All the best with your Waves endeavor with Ledger.
Hey man thanks again for clarifying all of this in detail. These are my last few questions to your response and that will be all.
1. My nano ledger has btc, bch apps installed on it. I recently installed the waves wallet app. I would not say the waves wallet app is that small, it still uses like 34kb or so? The apps like bch, ltc are tiny as they are 2kb only. Btc of course is a bit bigger at over 60kb+. Right now i still have over 30kb+ available space on my nano ledger s. I have not needed to remove an app and re-add an app because I don't own so many different coins. But if I did and say I only had one device, the one app I would make sure to not remove and re-add would be btc. But now after adding waves, it might be waves I do not remove and re-add. But have you removed the waves app and re-added it a bit later and no issue? I can try it as a test but curious if you already did it and it works.
2. I wanted to know if you ever restored your seed phrase with the nano ledger and then everything restored like normal with the waves. I have done this before previously with just having btc and bch in it and it was fine. Oh no... if you tell me it works for you, I trust you and not bother with this.
3. So am I fine with this then? Send pretty much almost all my waves from both of my seed phrases to the waves nano ledger account and say keep just a few waves in each of the waves seed phrases? Like say keep
1 or 2 waves in each account and send everything to the waves nano ledger account? The reason I actually want to do this is because I like the way my login is right now. But even if I send all my waves, its still fine as you say? Thus open waves desktop client, click on software, enter my waves master account password. Then it immediately logs into one of my seed phrase accounts and all I have to do is just switch account and go to the other seed phrase account or the waves nano ledger account. Like since it works the way it is now, I like to keep it that way.
4. You say the way I have it now is the same exact security I get if I log in to the second option of the nano ledger with the master account password since it still requires me pressing buttons. So there really is no point of changing the way I log in right? Again my concern was me leaving it this way might have issues in the future if I need to restore my nano ledger seed phrase because right now I click on sign in with software... vs ledger in the sign in menu options. But you said as long as its connected which I already did at setup and have the nano ledger seed phrase, I'm fine. I also noticed something. With my two waves seed phrase accounts and the waves nano ledger account... whichever account you are on... before you close the waves exchange desktop client... the next time you log in with the local password, it would open the last account that was closed. So since I want the waves nano ledger account to show up always first, then I can just make sure its on that account before I close the client each time?
5. I said
So did you uninstall your old waves master account and created a new waves master account with new password and click log in with nano ledger each time now? Thus your log in now is different than before? So do you just open waves exchange desktop client, click on connect with nano ledger and enter the new password each time you log in?
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When you login to the Waves Exchange, select the Ledger option and then type in your Master account password and thats it.
Just to confirm above. You are saying at the moment, open the waves exchange desktop client. Click on ledger option to log in. Then enter the exact master password I am using right now with the software wallet for the ledger option? I cannot imagine it being like this... I thought you always have to create a new password each time for a different type of login whether its software or ledger? With this method, you do not need your nano ledger connected to the pic right when you do this? I know you said earlier you only need it when needing to confirm a transaction.
Because if you look at it from someone who isn't tech savy, doesn't it seem like if you already have a waves nano ledger account, you have to log in with the second option as oppose to the software option? And it would seem if you weren't tech savy, if you have a waves seed phrase account, you have to click on the software option to log in? Because two different people could literally each have a waves nano ledger account and say a seed phrase account... but one person logs in by clicking on the ledger option...but the other person clicks on the software option? Then they each click on switch account whenever they want to check their other account whether its the waves nano ledger or the seed phrase account?
1. My nano ledger has btc, bch apps installed on it. I recently installed the waves wallet app. I would not say the waves wallet app is that small, it still uses like 34kb or so? The apps like bch, ltc are tiny as they are 2kb only. Btc of course is a bit bigger at over 60kb+. Right now i still have over 30kb+ available space on my nano ledger s. I have not needed to remove an app and re-add an app because I don't own so many different coins. But if I did and say I only had one device, the one app I would make sure to not remove and re-add would be btc. But now after adding waves, it might be waves I do not remove and re-add. But have you removed the waves app and re-added it a bit later and no issue? I can try it as a test but curious if you already did it and it works.
2. I wanted to know if you ever restored your seed phrase with the nano ledger and then everything restored like normal with the waves. I have done this before previously with just having btc and bch in it and it was fine. Oh no... if you tell me it works for you, I trust you and not bother with this.
3. So am I fine with this then? Send pretty much almost all my waves from both of my seed phrases to the waves nano ledger account and say keep just a few waves in each of the waves seed phrases? Like say keep
1 or 2 waves in each account and send everything to the waves nano ledger account? The reason I actually want to do this is because I like the way my login is right now. But even if I send all my waves, its still fine as you say? Thus open waves desktop client, click on software, enter my waves master account password. Then it immediately logs into one of my seed phrase accounts and all I have to do is just switch account and go to the other seed phrase account or the waves nano ledger account. Like since it works the way it is now, I like to keep it that way.
4. You say the way I have it now is the same exact security I get if I log in to the second option of the nano ledger with the master account password since it still requires me pressing buttons. So there really is no point of changing the way I log in right? Again my concern was me leaving it this way might have issues in the future if I need to restore my nano ledger seed phrase because right now I click on sign in with software... vs ledger in the sign in menu options. But you said as long as its connected which I already did at setup and have the nano ledger seed phrase, I'm fine. I also noticed something. With my two waves seed phrase accounts and the waves nano ledger account... whichever account you are on... before you close the waves exchange desktop client... the next time you log in with the local password, it would open the last account that was closed. So since I want the waves nano ledger account to show up always first, then I can just make sure its on that account before I close the client each time?
5. I said
So did you uninstall your old waves master account and created a new waves master account with new password and click log in with nano ledger each time now? Thus your log in now is different than before? So do you just open waves exchange desktop client, click on connect with nano ledger and enter the new password each time you log in?
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When you login to the Waves Exchange, select the Ledger option and then type in your Master account password and thats it.
Just to confirm above. You are saying at the moment, open the waves exchange desktop client. Click on ledger option to log in. Then enter the exact master password I am using right now with the software wallet for the ledger option? I cannot imagine it being like this... I thought you always have to create a new password each time for a different type of login whether its software or ledger? With this method, you do not need your nano ledger connected to the pic right when you do this? I know you said earlier you only need it when needing to confirm a transaction.
Because if you look at it from someone who isn't tech savy, doesn't it seem like if you already have a waves nano ledger account, you have to log in with the second option as oppose to the software option? And it would seem if you weren't tech savy, if you have a waves seed phrase account, you have to click on the software option to log in? Because two different people could literally each have a waves nano ledger account and say a seed phrase account... but one person logs in by clicking on the ledger option...but the other person clicks on the software option? Then they each click on switch account whenever they want to check their other account whether its the waves nano ledger or the seed phrase account?
Hey man thanks for the very long response on this. I have a few more questions and your answers are very clear. I never had anyone that answered my waves questions so clearly and appreciate that.
Glad to be of assistance
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1. I assumed you have removed your waves app from nano ledger few times and re-added it back assuming you use a nano ledger s since it has little space and you needed to add new apps? Or you never done this because you either didn't need to you have the nano ledger x? Should I test removing the waves app and re-adding the waves app to see if there is any issue? I read a case where someone mentioned they removed their waves app due to not much space on their ledger s temporarily and then when they re-added, they mentioned their waves account was not added back... but like their account id 0... it showed a completely different account with 0 waves. Do you know how this is possible or what kind of issue there is? They never answered if they found out the solution to this or not. This is why I also asked if we needed to know if the account id number but you say you just need the waves seed phrase.
Never heard of that. The way Ledger works is that when you delete and put it back all is back like it was. If you doubt this test it yourself before you send the big amount over. A Ledger Nano S can take 138kb of apps. Waves is a small amount of kb so still plenty of space if you want to add other accounts like. Depending on size of the accounts you can get two or three big wallets on a Nano S or more if the extra wallet is related to the base wallet of that coin, for example if you have Eth wallet on a Nano S adding BSC will be a very small addition. If you want to add a lot of base wallets like BTC and ETH and ADA and AVAx etc. you will get stuck at two wallets. Unless you do funny stuff it would seldom be needed for you to remove your Waves app. If Waves is your primary wallet you ever use then keep that one on the Ledger and rather remove other wallets as and when needed.
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2. Have you ever restored your seed phrase ever with the nano ledger? I have done that before but I only had btc and bch in it and after adding the apps and the accounts to ledger live, then it showed up. I'm curious if you ever did this yourself such as restore you entire nano ledger seed phrase and then tested... okay the waves are still there.
Again, even if I tell you it works, it seems you want to test it yourself so go ahead and test it by resetting your Ledger and re-entering the words and see if it is the same or not.
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3. You say Yes, it seems you did it correctly. When you first set the waves with nano ledger, on the waves instructions, there is a step where it ask Confirm the request on Ledger Nano device by comparing the request hash between the Waves.Exchange app and the data on the Ledger screen. If the hash is correct, confirm it on your device. It is a very long request hash like gmia68ufsoijfkalsjdflasjdfljfkasdklajfdasljfsa if you look at the instructions on this. I am looking at the instructions of it again and I am close to positive I did this when I first did the setup but not 100% though I'm close to positive I had to confirm a long hash like this at setup. But as long as I had sent waves from the waves seed phrase to the waves nano ledger account and then did it other way around... when it showed the waves receiving address on the nano ledger s screen before me confirming it on the nano ledger device itself...then its 100% that i did this correctly right? Again, I just want to make sure for certain this new waves account is indeed linked to the nano ledger.
Just send a small amount of Waves from the online account to the Ledger account address and back. If it appears on both sides it is fine. You will see several confirmation messages when working with a Ledger. The most important is the receiving address or sending address.
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4. Do you use the waves exchange desktop client or the waves exchange website? I always do everything on the desktop client as I'm concerned about doing it in the online wallet. Though I heard... both is still the same thing in terms of safety? Or is that not true? Now you originally had your waves in a seed phrase like most people right? So did you do exactly what I did? Basically log into the waves exchange desktop client, enter your local password for software wallet. Then got into account. Went to switch account. Then add account and then add account and thus added the new waves account linked to the ledger?
If you use a Ledger, it does not matter which wallet you use as the safety is in the buttons you need to press. The steps you mention will work.
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5. You used the term Waves Exchange Master Account. Wow I like this term as this makes everything easier to describe. Yea... so I could use the same waves exchange master account and only have the waves nano ledger account in it and no issue? Right now I have waves in both of my seed phrase accounts and also in the nano ledger account. But if i move all my waves from both seed phrase accounts to the waves nano ledger account, can i still log in as I do right now? But would it even matter in terms of safety if say I have 0 waves in my two waves seed phrase accounts? The thing is I do not mind keeping these two seed phrase accounts as well even if say it has 0 waves. But if I move all my waves to the waves nano ledger account, does this mean I can still login by clicking on software and entering the same local password? If I do this, will the first account that load actually be the waves nano ledger account or one of the other two seed phrase accounts? I do not actually want my waves seed phrase accounts gone.
You can have as many online wallets in your Master account and it will not impact the safety of your Ledger wallet as the Ledger's safety is in the buttons you press. Even if you have malware in your PC your funds cannot be stolen unless you press the button. The order of the accounts as listed in your Master account does not matter.
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So did you uninstall your old waves master account and created a new waves master account with new password and click log in with nano ledger each time now? Thus your log in now is different than before? So do you just open waves exchange desktop client, click on connect with nano ledger and enter the new password each time you log in?
When you login to the Waves Exchange, select the Ledger option and then type in your Master account password and thats it.
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6. You say Any action that you perform that moves or affects coins that are stored on you Ledger device, like an outward transaction, you will have to review and confirm on the device before actioned. Every time going forward including trading and staking. It is the safety of the device and how it is designed.
I am shocked by this. So every single trade you need to do, you need to review it and confirm it. So when you go to stake something, what exactly does it show on the screen? Do you want to take to this waves address? When you want to do a trade like say trade 1 waves for btc, what exactly will it display on the ledger screen? Is it actually going to display the transaction like okay do you want to trade 1 waves for like 0.0000001 btc or something?
I am shocked by this. So every single trade you need to do, you need to review it and confirm it. So when you go to stake something, what exactly does it show on the screen? Do you want to take to this waves address? When you want to do a trade like say trade 1 waves for btc, what exactly will it display on the ledger screen? Is it actually going to display the transaction like okay do you want to trade 1 waves for like 0.0000001 btc or something?
Dont be shocked, be glad. This is is why a Ledger is so secure. You press a button each and every time you do anything linked to an account on the Ledger. There are lots of info displayed on the screen of a Ledger that you need to review. The best is for you to do a test transaction and see what are all the items displayed.
I hope all your questions are now answered and that you get everything right.
Hey man thanks for the very long response on this. I have a few more questions and your answers are very clear. I never had anyone that answered my waves questions so clearly and appreciate that.
1. I assumed you have removed your waves app from nano ledger few times and re-added it back assuming you use a nano ledger s since it has little space and you needed to add new apps? Or you never done this because you either didn't need to you have the nano ledger x? Should I test removing the waves app and re-adding the waves app to see if there is any issue? I read a case where someone mentioned they removed their waves app due to not much space on their ledger s temporarily and then when they re-added, they mentioned their waves account was not added back... but like their account id 0... it showed a completely different account with 0 waves. Do you know how this is possible or what kind of issue there is? They never answered if they found out the solution to this or not. This is why I also asked if we needed to know if the account id number but you say you just need the waves seed phrase.
2. Have you ever restored your seed phrase ever with the nano ledger? I have done that before but i only had btc and bch in it and after adding the apps and the accounts to ledger live, then it showed up. I'm curious if you ever did this yourself such as restore you entire nano ledger seed phrase and then tested... okay the waves are still there.
3. You say Yes, it seems you did it correctly. When you first set the waves with nano ledger, on the waves instructions, there is a step where it ask Confirm the request on Ledger Nano device by comparing the request hash between the Waves.Exchange app and the data on the Ledger screen. If the hash is correct, confirm it on your device. It is a very long request hash like gmia68ufsoijfkalsjdflasjdfljfkasdklajfdasljfsa if you look at the instructions on this. I am looking at the instructions of it again and I am close to positive I did this when I first did the setup but not 100% though I'm close to positive I had to confirm a long hash like this at setup. But as long as I had sent waves from the waves seed phrase to the waves nano ledger account and then did it other way around... when it showed the waves receiving address on the nano ledger s screen before me confirming it on the nano ledger device itself...then its 100% that i did this correctly right? Again, I just want to make sure for certain this new waves account is indeed linked to the nano ledger.
4. Do you use the waves exchange desktop client or the waves exchange website? I always do everything on the desktop client as I'm concerned about doing it in the online wallet. Though I heard... both is still the same thing in terms of safety? Or is that not true? Now you originally had your waves in a seed phrase like most people right? So did you do exactly what I did? Basically log into the waves exchange desktop client, enter your local password for software wallet. Then got into account. Went to switch account. Then add account and then add account and thus added the new waves account linked to the ledger?
5. You used the term Waves Exchange Master Account. Wow I like this term as this makes everything easier to describe. Yea... so I could use the same waves exchange master account and only have the waves nano ledger account in it and no issue? Right now I have waves in both of my seed phrase accounts and also in the nano ledger account. But if i move all my waves from both seed phrase accounts to the waves nano ledger account, can i still log in as I do right now? But would it even matter in terms of safety if say I have 0 waves in my two waves seed phrase accounts? The thing is I do not mind keeping these two seed phrase accounts as well even if say it has 0 waves. But if I move all my waves to the waves nano ledger account, does this mean I can still login by clicking on software and entering the same local password? If I do this, will the first account that load actually be the waves nano ledger account or one of the other two seed phrase accounts? I do not actually want my waves seed phrase accounts gone.
So did you uninstall your old waves master account and created a new waves master account with new password and click log in with nano ledger each time now? Thus your log in now is different than before? So do you just open waves exchange desktop client, click on connect with nano ledger and enter the new password each time you log in?
6. You say Any action that you perform that moves or affects coins that are stored on you Ledger device, like an outward transaction, you will have to review and confirm on the device before actioned. Every time going forward including trading and staking. It is the safety of the device and how it is designed.
I am shocked by this. So every single trade you need to do, you need to review it and confirm it. So when you go to stake something, what exactly does it show on the screen? Do you want to take to this waves address? When you want to do a trade like say trade 1 waves for btc, what exactly will it display on the ledger screen? Is it actually going to display the transaction like okay do you want to trade 1 waves for like 0.0000001 btc or something?
1. I assumed you have removed your waves app from nano ledger few times and re-added it back assuming you use a nano ledger s since it has little space and you needed to add new apps? Or you never done this because you either didn't need to you have the nano ledger x? Should I test removing the waves app and re-adding the waves app to see if there is any issue? I read a case where someone mentioned they removed their waves app due to not much space on their ledger s temporarily and then when they re-added, they mentioned their waves account was not added back... but like their account id 0... it showed a completely different account with 0 waves. Do you know how this is possible or what kind of issue there is? They never answered if they found out the solution to this or not. This is why I also asked if we needed to know if the account id number but you say you just need the waves seed phrase.
2. Have you ever restored your seed phrase ever with the nano ledger? I have done that before but i only had btc and bch in it and after adding the apps and the accounts to ledger live, then it showed up. I'm curious if you ever did this yourself such as restore you entire nano ledger seed phrase and then tested... okay the waves are still there.
3. You say Yes, it seems you did it correctly. When you first set the waves with nano ledger, on the waves instructions, there is a step where it ask Confirm the request on Ledger Nano device by comparing the request hash between the Waves.Exchange app and the data on the Ledger screen. If the hash is correct, confirm it on your device. It is a very long request hash like gmia68ufsoijfkalsjdflasjdfljfkasdklajfdasljfsa if you look at the instructions on this. I am looking at the instructions of it again and I am close to positive I did this when I first did the setup but not 100% though I'm close to positive I had to confirm a long hash like this at setup. But as long as I had sent waves from the waves seed phrase to the waves nano ledger account and then did it other way around... when it showed the waves receiving address on the nano ledger s screen before me confirming it on the nano ledger device itself...then its 100% that i did this correctly right? Again, I just want to make sure for certain this new waves account is indeed linked to the nano ledger.
4. Do you use the waves exchange desktop client or the waves exchange website? I always do everything on the desktop client as I'm concerned about doing it in the online wallet. Though I heard... both is still the same thing in terms of safety? Or is that not true? Now you originally had your waves in a seed phrase like most people right? So did you do exactly what I did? Basically log into the waves exchange desktop client, enter your local password for software wallet. Then got into account. Went to switch account. Then add account and then add account and thus added the new waves account linked to the ledger?
5. You used the term Waves Exchange Master Account. Wow I like this term as this makes everything easier to describe. Yea... so I could use the same waves exchange master account and only have the waves nano ledger account in it and no issue? Right now I have waves in both of my seed phrase accounts and also in the nano ledger account. But if i move all my waves from both seed phrase accounts to the waves nano ledger account, can i still log in as I do right now? But would it even matter in terms of safety if say I have 0 waves in my two waves seed phrase accounts? The thing is I do not mind keeping these two seed phrase accounts as well even if say it has 0 waves. But if I move all my waves to the waves nano ledger account, does this mean I can still login by clicking on software and entering the same local password? If I do this, will the first account that load actually be the waves nano ledger account or one of the other two seed phrase accounts? I do not actually want my waves seed phrase accounts gone.
So did you uninstall your old waves master account and created a new waves master account with new password and click log in with nano ledger each time now? Thus your log in now is different than before? So do you just open waves exchange desktop client, click on connect with nano ledger and enter the new password each time you log in?
6. You say Any action that you perform that moves or affects coins that are stored on you Ledger device, like an outward transaction, you will have to review and confirm on the device before actioned. Every time going forward including trading and staking. It is the safety of the device and how it is designed.
I am shocked by this. So every single trade you need to do, you need to review it and confirm it. So when you go to stake something, what exactly does it show on the screen? Do you want to take to this waves address? When you want to do a trade like say trade 1 waves for btc, what exactly will it display on the ledger screen? Is it actually going to display the transaction like okay do you want to trade 1 waves for like 0.0000001 btc or something?
To those that stored waves in the nano ledger and thus use it with the waves exchange, how do you restore your waves if
Something happens to your computer?
Something happens to your nano ledger?
Something happens to your computer?
Something happens to your nano ledger?
Your private keys are stored in the Waves wallet on the Ledger. Your Ledger has a seed phrase of 24 words that you need to keep safe. If you lose your Ledger, then you get a new blank, uninitialized Ledger device. Then you restore your 24 Ledger words to the new device and it will be exactly the same as your previous device. When you then reload your Waves wallet on the new Ledger device, then all your wallet addresses with Waves in them will be restored as well as your private keys stored in the Ledger device. So as long as you have your Ledger device's 24 words you do not have to worry about losing or damaging your current Ledger device.
If you lose your computer or if the hard drive becomes corrupt, you get a new PC or reload your PC and reload Waves Exhange. Go through the process gain to link your Ledger and everything is back to where it was as your Waves are stored on your Ledger device and not in Waves Exchange on your PC. Let me repeat, if you use a Ledger device the coins are on the device and not on the PC.
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Is all you need your nano ledger S seed phrase and that is all? Do you need to copy down your waves address for that waves account linked to nano ledger? What about the account number like account id 0 etc?
Yes all you need to recover your old Ledger wallets to a new Ledger device is the Ledger 24 words (or seed phrases as you call it). You don't need to take down anything else because when you connect your Ledger again to Waves Exchange, all your accounts will be there again.
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I had set up the waves wallet with nano ledger but im not sure if it did it correctly. But as long as you send a tiny amount of waves from your seed phrase wallet to the waves linked nano ledger... and send waves from the waves linked nano ledger back to the seed phrase wallet... then you did it correct right? Before I could send the waves from the waves linked nano ledger to the waves seed phrase account, it had me verify the long waves receiving address before I can confirm and send. So as long as I got there... then I set it up correctly?[/b]
Yes, it seems you did it correctly. It is normal good practice to send a small amount to the device first to see that it words, send a small amount back to see that it workds and then send the motherload to the Ledger device. If you did this and it worked then you are good to go. Then you can discard your online wallet or "seed phrase wallet" as you call it. From then onwards only use the wallet addresses on your Ledger
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Also right now... I open waves exchange desktop client and enter my local waves account password in order to get into my account. When I do this, the first account I see is one of my seed phrase account. I then click switch account and I could switch to another waves seed phrase account I have.. and also the waves account I just created linked to the nano ledger. I could see the balance in all of these. So this is the correct way for me to log into my waves account right? Because I already have a waves account in a NON EMAIL account, that is the method for me to log in? It did not let me sign up for a new account on the same pc when I tried to click on ledger/waveskeeper. For example when you open the waves exchange client, i always click on logging in the software method and entering my waves local password... then when i do that... i then have access to my two waves seed phrase accounts... and the waves linked nano ledger acccount. I would have thought... wouldn't i connect with clicking on logging in with the middle option which is the ledger or waveskeeper option? But because of my old setup... the way im doing it is correct right?
When you initially created your Waves Exchange master account, it was a shell to add in any other wallet addresses you have. These addresses can be software accounts which you load by typing in a sequence of words or "seed phrase" as you call it. You can also add Ledger wallet addresses. All these addresses that you add will go into your master account on Waves Exchange. If you want to get rid of this, then move all your Waves from all your software wallet addresses to the wallet address on your Ledger device, then all your Waves will be safe. Then you can uninstall Waves Exchange and re-install, create a new master account and only link your Ledger Waves addresses, then all your old Waves wallet addresses will be gone. Should you ever want to add them again, just add an account and type in the seedphrase and they will be added to the list of addresses you see after you type in the password of your master exchange account.
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Now if i want to send any coins from the waves linked nano ledger account, I need to have my nano ledger connected to pc and confirm all transactions right? But if i want to have waves sent to the waves linked nano account... its not necessary right since well the waves address is literally right there on the top right corner?
Yes, that is the beauty of a Ledger device, you have to confirm each transaction on the device by pressing a button. This means that if womeone wants to steal your coins they also need to have physical access to your device to press the button else it will not work. The software wallets are unlocked when you open your master account and the private keys for those are stored on your PC. It is therefore easy for someone to steal the coins in the software accounts as you do not need to confirm anything with a second factor.
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Now this is what has me confused. If I do not have my nano ledger connected to my pc, could I stake/unstake waves or even trade coins in the waves exchange? I know I can't send any waves from the waves linked account to any other waves account unless nano ledger connected to pc and I approve the transaction. But could you trade though without it? Example imagine wanting to trade waves for btc or usdn or any other coin in and vice versa in the trading tab. At firsI it has to be required... but then I thought... no way that would be the case. Which is it?
Any action that you perform that moves or affects coins that are stored on you Ledger device, like an outward transaction, you will have to review and confirm on the device before actioned. Every time going forward including trading and staking. It is the safety of the device and how it is designed.
To those that stored waves in the nano ledger and thus use it with the waves exchange, how do you restore your waves if
Something happens to your computer?
Something happens to your nano ledger?
Is all you need your nano ledger S seed phrase and that is all? Do you need to copy down your waves address for that waves account linked to nano ledger? What about the account number like account id 0 etc?
I had set up the waves wallet with nano ledger but im not sure if it did it correctly. But as long as you send a tiny amount of waves from your seed phrase wallet to the waves linked nano ledger... and send waves from the waves linked nano ledger back to the seed phrase wallet... then you did it correct right? Before I could send the waves from the waves linked nano ledger to the waves seed phrase account, it had me verify the long waves receiving address before I can confirm and send. So as long as I got there... then I set it up correctly?
Also right now... I open waves exchange desktop client and enter my local waves account password in order to get into my account. When I do this, the first account I see is one of my seed phrase account. I then click switch account and I could switch to another waves seed phrase account I have.. and also the waves account I just created linked to the nano ledger. I could see the balance in all of these. So this is the correct way for me to log into my waves account right? Because I already have a waves account in a NON EMAIL account, that is the method for me to log in? It did not let me sign up for a new account on the same pc when I tried to click on ledger/waveskeeper. For example when you open the waves exchange client, i always click on logging in the software method and entering my waves local password... then when i do that... i then have access to my two waves seed phrase accounts... and the waves linked nano ledger acccount. I would have thought... wouldn't i connect with clicking on logging in with the middle option which is the ledger or waveskeeper option? But because of my old setup... the way im doing it is correct right?
Now if i want to send any coins from the waves linked nano ledger account, I need to have my nano ledger connected to pc and confirm all transactions right? But if i want to have waves sent to the waves linked nano account... its not necessary right since well the waves address is literally right there on the top right corner?
Now this is what has me confused. If I do not have my nano ledger connected to my pc, could I stake/unstake waves or even trade coins in the waves exchange? I know I can't send any waves from the waves linked account to any other waves account unless nano ledger connected to pc and I approve the transaction. But could you trade though without it? Example imagine wanting to trade waves for btc or usdn or any other coin in and vice versa in the trading tab. At firsI it has to be required... but then I thought... no way that would be the case. Which is it?
Something happens to your computer?
Something happens to your nano ledger?
Is all you need your nano ledger S seed phrase and that is all? Do you need to copy down your waves address for that waves account linked to nano ledger? What about the account number like account id 0 etc?
I had set up the waves wallet with nano ledger but im not sure if it did it correctly. But as long as you send a tiny amount of waves from your seed phrase wallet to the waves linked nano ledger... and send waves from the waves linked nano ledger back to the seed phrase wallet... then you did it correct right? Before I could send the waves from the waves linked nano ledger to the waves seed phrase account, it had me verify the long waves receiving address before I can confirm and send. So as long as I got there... then I set it up correctly?
Also right now... I open waves exchange desktop client and enter my local waves account password in order to get into my account. When I do this, the first account I see is one of my seed phrase account. I then click switch account and I could switch to another waves seed phrase account I have.. and also the waves account I just created linked to the nano ledger. I could see the balance in all of these. So this is the correct way for me to log into my waves account right? Because I already have a waves account in a NON EMAIL account, that is the method for me to log in? It did not let me sign up for a new account on the same pc when I tried to click on ledger/waveskeeper. For example when you open the waves exchange client, i always click on logging in the software method and entering my waves local password... then when i do that... i then have access to my two waves seed phrase accounts... and the waves linked nano ledger acccount. I would have thought... wouldn't i connect with clicking on logging in with the middle option which is the ledger or waveskeeper option? But because of my old setup... the way im doing it is correct right?
Now if i want to send any coins from the waves linked nano ledger account, I need to have my nano ledger connected to pc and confirm all transactions right? But if i want to have waves sent to the waves linked nano account... its not necessary right since well the waves address is literally right there on the top right corner?
Now this is what has me confused. If I do not have my nano ledger connected to my pc, could I stake/unstake waves or even trade coins in the waves exchange? I know I can't send any waves from the waves linked account to any other waves account unless nano ledger connected to pc and I approve the transaction. But could you trade though without it? Example imagine wanting to trade waves for btc or usdn or any other coin in and vice versa in the trading tab. At firsI it has to be required... but then I thought... no way that would be the case. Which is it?
Why would he pay eth network fees when he is using the waves platform? the waves exchange have a customer service right inside the exchange (speaking about the app) where he can request for help and understand what happened to the rest of the money, although i have not use the customer service but am guessing it is active.
Waves exchange has a built in bridge where you can withdraw Eth for example from a wrapped version to the non-wrapped version. There are several bridges actually for different coins. Withdrawing ETH is very expensive on Waves just like any other exchange and you pay both Eth fees and some Waves fees but the Waves fee is negligible. So there are cases where one would pay ETH fees.
Six months later, I can make a review about this exchange. These are scammers. I do not recommend using their services, especially staking and algorithmic trading. They promise good interest, but instead of 400 I withdrew only 300 dollars. Think for yourself. There are many decent exchanges and defi. They are SCAM
So you registered here to make this comment and nothing else? Maybe you could share your experience in detail? I am kind of assuming you paid $100 ETH network fees and are upset about that?Why would he pay eth network fees when he is using the waves platform? the waves exchange have a customer service right inside the exchange (speaking about the app) where he can request for help and understand what happened to the rest of the money, although i have not use the customer service but am guessing it is active.
Waves exchange has a built in bridge where you can withdraw Eth for example from a wrapped version to the non-wrapped version. There are several bridges actually for different coins. Withdrawing ETH is very expensive on Waves just like any other exchange and you pay both Eth fees and some Waves fees but the Waves fee is negligible. So there are cases where one would pay ETH fees.
Six months later, I can make a review about this exchange. These are scammers. I do not recommend using their services, especially staking and algorithmic trading. They promise good interest, but instead of 400 I withdrew only 300 dollars. Think for yourself. There are many decent exchanges and defi. They are SCAM
So you registered here to make this comment and nothing else? Maybe you could share your experience in detail? I am kind of assuming you paid $100 ETH network fees and are upset about that?Why would he pay eth network fees when he is using the waves platform? the waves exchange have a customer service right inside the exchange (speaking about the app) where he can request for help and understand what happened to the rest of the money, although i have not use the customer service but am guessing it is active.
Waves Keeper looks like it swaps between Waves tokens only? Do you have plans to make it possible to swap between chains for example from Waves to Polygon?
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