Topic: WAVES - Complete Blockchain ecosystem for a token economy - page 32. (Read 131026 times)

Can someone help me find it on http://dev.pywaves.org/assets/
It does not appear on the stated issue times 11.10.2021

How high is the re issuance rate and is there any burn rate to counter inflation? Update: 1087 per day around 400 000 Vires per year inflation.
max supply is 10 000 000 and APR from platform revenue is 84% on 346 500 circulating supply.

Market cap is $21 million and depending on inflation rate to 10m max cap it means if APR is sustained Vires is trading x50 below fair value according to P/E revenue model at $63 and may increase to $2000-$4000.

At P/E x30 and 10m tokens fair value is $50 (year 2047)
At 346 500 supply it is trading x30 below fair value on $50 and should trade up to $1530 fairly quickly. After 1 year issuance (february 2023) fair value is lower $700.

Seems good buy at $50-$60 (6000% apy)

https://waves.exchange/trading/spot/VIRES_USDN

Update 1:
APR is 7000% on 4 locked tokens but true APR tomorrow is somewhere between 250%-650% on 50k.150k locked Vires. But you can imagine what happens to price if so much is locked from market, it will catapult x10.

Within 12 hours you get either x10 on your money when buying $50 or 1000%+ apr, both are very good.

Update 2:
APR doesn't make any sense.

Update 3:
Daily protocol revenue is $49 000 with 5000 locked Vires and that is why APR is 6000%+ (5000x$59x60). If 5000 more Vires enter protocol today, naturally APY goes down to 3000% because now there is twice as many tokens to share revenue on. On max capacity 262 000 Vires locked the true APY per token is 19 cents and $2 when 10% locked. So if you lock 3 tokens today at $52 the APY returns it in 1 month when 10% capacity and 10 months on full capacity. The true value is somewhere inbetween 1 to 10 months to return money invested at $50. It displays 6345% on 3 vires locked I don't know why they are not accounting for all the new Vires that will flow into the protocol today after 13.

However, the base price of Vires will increase if 262 000 tokens are locked so the APY goes down but your base investment will probably go up alot, x10 or more, if you buy here at $50.

Update 4:
https://wavescap.com/asset/VIRES/richlist

Conclusion:
Waiting for final APR and evaluating stability to ensure no rug pull and by the way is the $1bn liquidity audited, does it exist?

Wow, what an announcement. I didn't expect it to happen so quick. The Vires price does acknowledge it with a +80% currently. I am looking forward to the new functionality.

What will happen with the team token of the Vires team? According to the blogpost they hold 80% of all Vires. Will they lock theirs immediately too? Are there any plans to sell those tokens on the market?

Blow off top incoming.

$200-$400 same as eth 2017.

BTC 300K/0.0012 Waves per btc.

maybe shakeout before breakout first down to $10.

TurtleNetwork 90 cent up to $34 same vertical as ARRR last year this time.

then 3-4 years global depression and then AGI pump 2027-2029 then Tech singularity 2045 etc.

https://wavesexplorer.com

Assuming you do not have access to your waves wallet but want to check if there has been any transfers from the waves address associated with the account, how do you check this?  For example i know with btc, if you type in your btc receiving address, well it would show the balance and history right?



But if you enter your long waves address for a specific waves account, what would you be able to see?  Example imagine you are on vacation and do not have your waves wallet on you because its in a computer.  You want to use your phone to check if your funds are safe etc.  And say the only thing you have is your waves address.  You do not have the seed.



What site do you copy/paste that waves address to ... to see if any transactions have been done recently?  Could you see internal transactions?  Could you see what the waves balance is currently for a waves address?

Follow the money from ARRR x1000 pump last year in the wallet links, it is beeing hoarded on Polarity wallets and for what reason? One can only speculate. TN is part of BPSAA it is a group of projects including Piratechain which is also not anything different from many other privacy coins so atleast for the medium term this kind of differentiation is not important the important thing is dev skills and both ARRR and TN have good devs who are implementing NFT markets, loan dapps and casinos easily. They can do anything that waves team can do but smaller scale because fewer staff. They simply clone everything waves does with a few months time lag and have their own DAO and soon swap same as swop where TN is also listed and there is no spread.

https://swop.fi/info/3PCdNCULgjM9ZMLEt61M45qxV26ro6o48Jj

$5000 becomes soon $500 000 from this gamble and if you lose it so what a few months working income for this level of risk/reward.

If you are really into unique projects maybe mine is better in the signature. Uniqueness is not a silver solution for x1000 pumps but for long term investments it is important.

It is possible you are right about TN not being unique enough and this is also what Swedish VC firm said about investing, but it doesn't matter because insiders in both ARRR and TN are preparing to move it from 1 cent to $1 soon, they dont care about such things only profit and TN is solid enough that retail will buy $1 same as 1 cent, $1m cap $100m cap it is unimportant at such low level but for insider who makes the move, his $5m is multiplied to $50-$100m, that is the way they make the big money because they control the outcome.


My prediction is to watch for OTC between founder and polarity for 10m stack and then vertical to $17-$34.
Mortys node is net buyer at 1 cent 5m TN so they are also in the play here, he will want ROI on that stack soon waiting a long time after exiting waves at $10 last year.

There are multiple whales who are waiting to move in on TN. Another is the 1m waves leaser to the TN BlackTurtlenode which is one of the biggest nodes on waves platform.

http://dev.pywaves.org/generators-weekly/

I have researched TN 24/7 monitoring for the past 19 months, its not my problem what anyone does with this info because I am short 800k TN so no rush to pump.
The hard part is actually managing it once it pumps because here it is 100% accummulation very easy mode.

And why whould TN "cover the gap"? TN had some increase but now is down to the price level where it came from. WX is the only place where it's traded, with a spread of >30%. This doesn't sound convincing for me. What are its unique features? In my opinion any clone needs to bring some innovation otherwise it's probably just created for a pump-and-dump scheme.
If you can provide some more information, that would be great (probably a dedicated thread for that would be appropriate)

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Meanwhile WX droped to ~$1.6. I currently don't think it will drop below $1 (and for that matter probably not lower than $1.2-$1.3) until the summer. Many people complain about the development in Telegram (down from $20), however, I guess this was pretty much to be expected. I hope the full functionality of the token will be rolled out soon

Buy TurtleNetwork it will x1000 soon same as ARRR  $0.013 - $17

Here is the $5m pump money from ARRR profit:

3JsbrjKQhk8p5dHL2bpL975PgS4jSry5Wj4
3JpPBFdDY7pw3G75xbNoCNzwnF8JiqdQpug
3JcpYwGJwzoSdKEgSFsYk62dhqa3gNZg7eR
3JgmMJgPEsLgstUddnePWka9EHAJbE7NXzk
3Jh4pWLw4kUNKyiPwp4bPfobnZfSxX7R823
3JsC3VcLDpKSYRCWAJ2qAwWNrxBbXKhTE61
3JeeuANyshr5eU77kUdo5zsEShkAQGzhiNG
3Jvdv8B8jY9xNnYHMETiK2ugze4MZDcVWPM
3JtzdCwMn3MgezbxnYsnQXHndmuSouTBY5T
3JissoeLkxuDzLvj3mWpimPSBvV3X1LDQu9
3JkvtdGukavEHE7sJk6fM24SAzhYdgCvfwG
3JfkJudCXYJviSZPPcZ3fe3VkQNEgmGHkep
3Jk9EuqfNWCQU8e9pXBjCTVCW8efbwJAFLA
3Jp1uTk3gbf4rvtUuZkbjUviVa6WX8hmQNd
3JgLiKBsKhP4N8ULXKGNzh79BKJQSX1u7ar
3JnM8BGUNZPvvCpG9LzH9NAKCYDAze3Eb8M
3Jwz5XyoEWUPHUhQKX2S4231NmA6aKMv2P9

$5000 is enough for lifetime retirement.

TurtleNetwork is waves clone valued at 1/1500th, so you are basically buying waves for less than a cent.

TurtleNetwork grew by 50% since july 2020 while waves increased by a factor of x10, so it is soon time to cover that gap and go above 30 cents.

My waves are stored in a seed phrase with a password on the laptop.  Thus I use the waves exchange client to store waves.  I have a nano ledger s.  Who here uses a nano ledger s with waves and recommend it?


From what I am reading, if you want to move your waves in a seed phrase to nano ledger, the first thing you need to do is a sign up a new account on the waves exchange client?


You then create a new password with it.  Then after this is done, you need to plug your nano ledger into your computer and install the waves app on the nano ledger?


Then you log into your waves client account with your password which will give you access to your seed phrase waves account. 


Then you send a test amount of waves from your seed phrase wallet to the waves account associated with nano ledger?  This confuses me here because you cannot use ledger live with waves.  So how exactly are you suppose to send the waves to it?  So you would use the waves address displayed in the nano ledger for you to send to that would also display on the laptop screen?


So after you send all your waves to the nano ledger, then you need the nano ledger every single time you receive or send waves from it right?  I know you have to use waves exchange with nano ledger but this seems very confusing.


So what happens if you have other coins like waves community tokens that you want to send etc?  Or say btc in a waves wallet you want to send?  What about when you want to stake or unstake?  You need the nano ledger for any of these processes right?


Now assuming you send all your waves to nano ledger, does this mean your wave seed phrase is thus useless since those waves are now in the nano ledger?  Thus let say you only have btc and bch in your nano ledger.  Your nano ledger seed phrase now contains your btc, bch and waves?  So you have one less seed phrase to be concerned about?


So basically having your waves and using it nano ledger s is going to make your coins secure because no waves can be sent or any transaction be done inside the waves exchange client... without nano ledger allowing it?   But what about if you are trading coins or staking/unstaking waves?  This seems very confusing.

that date will be saved indeed- as an example for contemptuous and arrogant disconnect from reality..

by the way, I cannot imagine that Sasha is running this account...

edit: seems I was right about this because Sasha formally apologized on twitter .. Good move!

There were only teasers so far, at least from what I saw on Telegram. My guess is that they are announcing some kind of feature from the roadmap.
(check here: https://medium.com/wavesprotocol/gate-to-2-0-238a5f9ca4ea)

Personally I doubt it's a revolution, this wording probably came from the PR people, but who knows