Topic: WAVES - Complete Blockchain ecosystem for a token economy - page 33. (Read 131284 times)

My waves are stored in a seed phrase with a password on the laptop.  Thus I use the waves exchange client to store waves.  I have a nano ledger s.  Who here uses a nano ledger s with waves and recommend it?


From what I am reading, if you want to move your waves in a seed phrase to nano ledger, the first thing you need to do is a sign up a new account on the waves exchange client?


You then create a new password with it.  Then after this is done, you need to plug your nano ledger into your computer and install the waves app on the nano ledger?


Then you log into your waves client account with your password which will give you access to your seed phrase waves account. 


Then you send a test amount of waves from your seed phrase wallet to the waves account associated with nano ledger?  This confuses me here because you cannot use ledger live with waves.  So how exactly are you suppose to send the waves to it?  So you would use the waves address displayed in the nano ledger for you to send to that would also display on the laptop screen?


So after you send all your waves to the nano ledger, then you need the nano ledger every single time you receive or send waves from it right?  I know you have to use waves exchange with nano ledger but this seems very confusing.


So what happens if you have other coins like waves community tokens that you want to send etc?  Or say btc in a waves wallet you want to send?  What about when you want to stake or unstake?  You need the nano ledger for any of these processes right?


Now assuming you send all your waves to nano ledger, does this mean your wave seed phrase is thus useless since those waves are now in the nano ledger?  Thus let say you only have btc and bch in your nano ledger.  Your nano ledger seed phrase now contains your btc, bch and waves?  So you have one less seed phrase to be concerned about?


So basically having your waves and using it nano ledger s is going to make your coins secure because no waves can be sent or any transaction be done inside the waves exchange client... without nano ledger allowing it?   But what about if you are trading coins or staking/unstaking waves?  This seems very confusing.

that date will be saved indeed- as an example for contemptuous and arrogant disconnect from reality..

by the way, I cannot imagine that Sasha is running this account...

edit: seems I was right about this because Sasha formally apologized on twitter .. Good move!

There were only teasers so far, at least from what I saw on Telegram. My guess is that they are announcing some kind of feature from the roadmap.
(check here: https://medium.com/wavesprotocol/gate-to-2-0-238a5f9ca4ea)

Personally I doubt it's a revolution, this wording probably came from the PR people, but who knows 

I visited their website, but there is no many information about event.  It looks like some big event is being prepeared. But there is one thing makes me doubt. I'm talking about event name. As for me Crypto Revolution is very pretentious name for any event.

Waves tweets about some kind of revolution. What do you think about it?

https://twitter.com/wavesprotocol/status/1471879251641176064
On December 22nd, we will be involved in a decentralized CryptoRevolution.
We're invited to this event that aims to transition mass adoption from centralized platforms to decentralized platforms.
At this event we will make our announcement coming for Waves in 2022.

See you all at 22.12.2021 - http://cryptorevolutionevent.com/landing/

after creating addresses, log one of them and add others addresses:
"address/icon" => "switch account"=> "add account"

https://waves.exchange/sign-up/



When you click on Software.  Then you click on create password and then create account.  You would then be given a choice of a few waves addresses to choose from.  Then you click next or okay.  Then it goes to a new waves account and you get message on bottom corner to write down you seed and save it.



Can anyone here confirm this?  Someone from waves support said you could create as many seed phrase accounts you want on the waves_exchange client or the waves exchange website.

Well, as far as I know you cannot create new seeds for the Waves blockchain, but use old, existing seeds to create new accounts.

What do you mean you cannot create a new waves seed phrase account?  You can either do it by email/password, the nano ledger method and finally the software seed phrase method right?  There are three ways?



What I did was this.  I had used a new computer and then had my old waves seed phrase with me.  I downloaded the waves_exchange client on a new computer.  I then went to create new account and then click on software and then entered a new password and then entered my 15 old waves seed phrase into it.  I then got access to my account.  I was told just go to switch account, then add account and you could create as many seed phrase accounts as you want on the computer.  I clicked add account and then it generated me a new waves address.  Then after logging in, it tells me to make sure i write down my seed for this account.  I did that.  I then wanted to create another waves seed phrase account.  I go to switch account, add account and did the same thing.  Then I wrote down the seed phrase.



After this, I clicked on switch account to my original seed phrase account.  Then click on withdraw to transfer waves to the last waves seed phrase account I created.  I then sent the waves to it.  The amount of waves got deducted from my original waves seed phrase and is transferred to the last waves seed phrase account I created and the waves are there.  Now whenever I log into the waves client account on my computer, I type in the password and basically have access to all three of these seed accounts.   Thus the original waves seed phrase, the second waves seed phrase account and the third waves seed phrase account which received the waves from the original waves seed phrase account.  Thus my balance is now in the third waves seed phrase account.



I was told if I were to use another computer or say if i redownloaded the waves client, in order to access my new waves seed phrase account i created, i have to make sure to have the seed.  And when you try to log in the account, it would require you to create a new password... like a temporary password so to speak but you have to then type in your 15 word phrase seed.



The reason why I wanted to create another waves seed phrase account was because I wanted to move my coins from my old waves seed phrase to a new one.  So the way I did it, this is the correct way right?  Again I have the seed phrase for the old waves seed phrase, the second new waves seed phrase... eventhough i have no balance there... and finally the third seed phrase account I created where i sent my original coins to.  



I was told as long as you written down the seed phrase, you can access your wallet on any computer or on the web.  Its just you need to create a new password each time.  Can a waves expert confirm this?  

You can no longer create a seed phrase Waves account. Just use your new email account, this one can be restored through your email.

You cannot convert an old seed account to an email account, if you want to access your old seed account on a new computer, you always need to enter your seed.

At the present moment I have taken 78% of my investments! And this is given the fact that only about 5% of my tokens are unlocked at the moment.
Since the first message, the token has lost more than 75% in value 
I think the price will be even lower but it wont be lower than $ 1.

To Summarize, right now, I want to create another new waves phrase seed. 



On a new computer, I had created a new password... and then typed in my old waves seed to get access to my account on the waves exchange client I downloaded.  This is my old waves seed phrase.  The reason being I am not accessing this waves account with my other computer which I use to always do so by typing the password.  Thus I remember as long as I have the seed phrase, I could access my account.



I then went to create an account by email.  I put in my email and new password.  Then created a new waves account this way.  However, there is no seed and I am not sure I prefer this method.  I know you could put in google authenticator as your two factor to make it safe.  I then wrote down that Two FA code since i read in case you lose your iphone.  But what if you somehow lose access to your email connected with waves?  If that ever happens, such as you lose access to the email, does that mean there is no way you can access your waves account anymore?  That is my concern with the email method.



Now I then tried to create a new waves account by software and want the phrase seed method.  The issue here is when I try to do this on the client, it gives me message


Create Account


You have already created a NOT email and you can log in to it using this link. 



I then went to the website waves.exchange and after I put in a new password, I was able to get a new waves account and message showed make sure you write your seed down.  I go into the account settings and see phrase seed and encoded seed?  Do you need to write both of these down or just the phrase seed?  What about the private key?  Isn't the 15 word phrase seed the only thing you need to write down?  So now I wrote that down.




But right now... I want to do the exact same thing again and get another waves 15 word phrase seed as when I wrote down the seed just previously, I am not sure if it got exposed or not.  Thus I want a brand new 15 word phrase seed.  But the issue now is when I try to create an account via software on the client or the website, i get the same message of



Create Account


You have already created a NOT email and you can log in to it using this link.




Can someone explain how I bypass this?  Again, I created a new password for my old waves seed since I wanted to access my waves on a new computer.  Then i created a new waves account via email on the client software.  Then I went to the website waves_exchange and able to create a new password and get a brand new waves account with a phrase seed with the software method and wrote the phrase seed down.  But I would like to do this one more time as the phrase I wrote down might be exposed.  So I want to get another phrase seed via software.  Do I need to use a new web browser?  Do I erase the cookies or history on my computer or something?  Because after I do this, then I would transfer my waves from my old waves phrase seed to the new waves phrase seed.  Can someone please tell me what I'm doing wrong here?  Again how come I can't create a new waves account and generate a new phrase seed anymore?

So I went to my waves client and clicked on Create Account via Software.  When I do this, i get message


You already created a NOT email account and you can log in it using the link.  So the password I created not long ago with my seed is the one that it is talking about.  So I cannot create another account this way on the client?  It doesn't allow me to.


Now I then went to the waves.exchange site and did the same thing as that seem to allow me to create a new account.  I put in a new password and then it showed me the new waves address.  After all this, I log into the account and on the bottom corner it say make sure you save your seed.  So I went to settings, then go to seed phrase and then enter my new password and I Agree and now see the seed phrase for this new waves account.  But what is the encoded seed phrase and what is the private key? I thought you only need the seed phrase?


This is where none of this makes sense.  I wrote down the seed phrase then log out.  I go to the same waves.exchange site and click on access my account by software and enter the password I just created.


It shows



Welcome Back


Please enter password (not seed phrase)


I enter my password for the new waves account I created... yet once I do that... I'm automatically logged into the new waves account?  How in the world is this secure?  I thought if I had to log into the exchange online, if I only choose password, then wouldn't I need to enter my seed phrase each time?  What if someone has access to my laptop then and just go to waves.exchange and had my waves password and log in just like that?  How in the world is this secure?

But how should i create a new waves account?  The thing is I don't want my waves coins with the old seed phrase I have.  I want to move all my coins in the old phrase seed to a new one.


So should I just create a new password and get a new seed phrase and thus do that?  That way it would be similar to the way I always done it?  Or should I use an email/password and use two factor authorization with google authenticator and do that it that way?  And then send the waves from the old seed phrase to the new account created by email/password?


Again I want to move my waves from my old seed phrase to a new waves account that is not associated with my old waves seed phrase.