any news or update?
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Topic: [Weexchange issue] The fall of Ukyo III - Updates and references - page 4. (Read 49953 times)
June 18, 2014, 10:48:54 AM
Hi Guys,
Can anybody update me on what the situation is right now? I've read someone has started a lawsuit but it is not open to join any more.
Is there anything else going on? Has UKYO said something about the weexchange claims portal?
Thanks!
Can anybody update me on what the situation is right now? I've read someone has started a lawsuit but it is not open to join any more.
Is there anything else going on? Has UKYO said something about the weexchange claims portal?
Thanks!
Nothing have changed as far as I know.. But Ukyo was pretty talkative on IRC this weekend. Not much new though, this is a summary: "
Here is a paste of the "interesting" parts of the chat: http://pastebin.com/EJ5BT49r
Regardless of the actual situation speaking to those missing money in this manner is ridiculous.
Who has still hope to get some coins back in here ??
I simply can not understand why people think there is any chance that they'll get their stolen money back. I guess ya, hope and denial is some of the few things you are left with after being robbed.
I don't even know how long its been anymore. When did the 6000+ btc 'disappear' and 'become unavailable' ? Was it October, November. I don't even recall.
I'm really surprised that the ole 'Oh oh sorry sorry, it's coming soon, i can't talk about it' defense actually sastifed so many people who literally had more than million bucks collectively ripped off from them, for what, 6 months now?
Who has still hope to get some coins back in here ??
Me. All I have is hope.
Who has still hope to get some coins back in here ??
Hi Guys,
Can anybody update me on what the situation is right now? I've read someone has started a lawsuit but it is not open to join any more.
Is there anything else going on? Has UKYO said something about the weexchange claims portal?
Thanks!
Can anybody update me on what the situation is right now? I've read someone has started a lawsuit but it is not open to join any more.
Is there anything else going on? Has UKYO said something about the weexchange claims portal?
Thanks!
Nothing have changed as far as I know.. But Ukyo was pretty talkative on IRC this weekend. Not much new though, this is a summary: "
Here is a paste of the "interesting" parts of the chat: http://pastebin.com/EJ5BT49r
Thank you!
Hi Guys,
Can anybody update me on what the situation is right now? I've read someone has started a lawsuit but it is not open to join any more.
Is there anything else going on? Has UKYO said something about the weexchange claims portal?
Thanks!
Can anybody update me on what the situation is right now? I've read someone has started a lawsuit but it is not open to join any more.
Is there anything else going on? Has UKYO said something about the weexchange claims portal?
Thanks!
Nothing have changed as far as I know.. But Ukyo was pretty talkative on IRC this weekend. Not much new though, this is a summary: "
Here is a paste of the "interesting" parts of the chat: http://pastebin.com/EJ5BT49r
Hi Guys,
Can anybody update me on what the situation is right now? I've read someone has started a lawsuit but it is not open to join any more.
Is there anything else going on? Has UKYO said something about the weexchange claims portal?
Thanks!
Can anybody update me on what the situation is right now? I've read someone has started a lawsuit but it is not open to join any more.
Is there anything else going on? Has UKYO said something about the weexchange claims portal?
Thanks!
You would have to be a moron to do business with Ukyo again after this last scam.
Its been what 5+ month now since the Ukyo loan stopped paying dividends on Bitfunder, how about Ukyo showed hes good intentions by paying a daily dividend every now and then to the shareholders public bitfunder adresses, just to show that your there working on things Ukyo, we all know Ukyo has sold off some assets so he surely can pay some interest but havent done so sofar.
In case the minimum transaction amount to those with 1-10 shares would be a problem interest could either be send in chunks of 11 days for everyone or send bigger chuks more rarely to the ones with only a few amount shares and more ofther for 1 day at a time to those with more than 10 shares.
Ukyo can you explain why you havent payed any dividend at all after the closure of Bitfunder ? Are you using the coins to turn them into more, like turning 1 btc into 1.1 btc every month or something ?
In case the minimum transaction amount to those with 1-10 shares would be a problem interest could either be send in chunks of 11 days for everyone or send bigger chuks more rarely to the ones with only a few amount shares and more ofther for 1 day at a time to those with more than 10 shares.
Ukyo can you explain why you havent payed any dividend at all after the closure of Bitfunder ? Are you using the coins to turn them into more, like turning 1 btc into 1.1 btc every month or something ?
That would be great. I hope Ukyo disclose more info in the portal. I remember that Ukyo mentioned there's a new business would be kickstarted this month?
Do you mean this month ?? If there would really be a promising business, ukyo could give us some shares in that according to our balance..
Its been what 5+ month now since the Ukyo loan stopped paying dividends on Bitfunder, how about Ukyo showed hes good intentions by paying a daily dividend every now and then to the shareholders public bitfunder adresses, just to show that your there working on things Ukyo, we all know Ukyo has sold off some assets so he surely can pay some interest but havent done so sofar.
In case the minimum transaction amount to those with 1-10 shares would be a problem interest could either be send in chunks of 11 days for everyone or send bigger chuks more rarely to the ones with only a few amount shares and more ofther for 1 day at a time to those with more than 10 shares.
Ukyo can you explain why you havent payed any dividend at all after the closure of Bitfunder ? Are you using the coins to turn them into more, like turning 1 btc into 1.1 btc every month or something ?
In case the minimum transaction amount to those with 1-10 shares would be a problem interest could either be send in chunks of 11 days for everyone or send bigger chuks more rarely to the ones with only a few amount shares and more ofther for 1 day at a time to those with more than 10 shares.
Ukyo can you explain why you havent payed any dividend at all after the closure of Bitfunder ? Are you using the coins to turn them into more, like turning 1 btc into 1.1 btc every month or something ?
That would be great. I hope Ukyo disclose more info in the portal. I remember that Ukyo mentioned there's a new business would be kickstarted this month?
Its been what 5+ month now since the Ukyo loan stopped paying dividends on Bitfunder, how about Ukyo showed hes good intentions by paying a daily dividend every now and then to the shareholders public bitfunder adresses, just to show that your there working on things Ukyo, we all know Ukyo has sold off some assets so he surely can pay some interest but havent done so sofar.
In case the minimum transaction amount to those with 1-10 shares would be a problem interest could either be send in chunks of 11 days for everyone or send bigger chuks more rarely to the ones with only a few amount shares and more ofther for 1 day at a time to those with more than 10 shares.
Ukyo can you explain why you havent payed any dividend at all after the closure of Bitfunder ? Are you using the coins to turn them into more, like turning 1 btc into 1.1 btc every month or something ?
In case the minimum transaction amount to those with 1-10 shares would be a problem interest could either be send in chunks of 11 days for everyone or send bigger chuks more rarely to the ones with only a few amount shares and more ofther for 1 day at a time to those with more than 10 shares.
Ukyo can you explain why you havent payed any dividend at all after the closure of Bitfunder ? Are you using the coins to turn them into more, like turning 1 btc into 1.1 btc every month or something ?
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Its a pity that the community is using a decentralized currency but pretty much all possible points of centralization fail
I strongly suspect we're also seeing some 'chain reaction' effects with some of the failures in the Bitcoin industry.
There are probably some links & dependencies behind the scenes which weren't exactly thoroughly declared to investors.. and of course the line between fraud and plain mismanagement or even just bad luck is a blurry one, which some operators have taken advantage of.
A universal theme seems to be the lack of transparency and communication about what happened... that's the surprising thing to me for an industry based around a public ledger!
^I apologize -- a cheap shot on my part.
I'm not sure if it's a language barrier, though. Many people here seem to let emotions drive their financial decisions. Which isn't a bad thing, but it's exploited by con men. Choreographing a personal, emotional experience for the target is one of the basics of social engineering. Passing oneself off as a victim, as a guy in trouble who needs your help to make things work out, is another. Sharing tidbits of information and making you feel like a participant in the drama, instead of just the mark -- yet another. This is all 101-level stuff.
I'm not saying that I found the smoking gun -- just that *all the evidence points to this being a con*, down to Danny's involvement.
And I'm not suggesting you file suit against Jon -- too much time has passed, most likely pointless now.
I'm not sure if it's a language barrier, though. Many people here seem to let emotions drive their financial decisions. Which isn't a bad thing, but it's exploited by con men. Choreographing a personal, emotional experience for the target is one of the basics of social engineering. Passing oneself off as a victim, as a guy in trouble who needs your help to make things work out, is another. Sharing tidbits of information and making you feel like a participant in the drama, instead of just the mark -- yet another. This is all 101-level stuff.
I'm not saying that I found the smoking gun -- just that *all the evidence points to this being a con*, down to Danny's involvement.
And I'm not suggesting you file suit against Jon -- too much time has passed, most likely pointless now.
I see what you mean. And yes i cant say that its impossible that its a con.
I wouldnt set on the emotional way when it goes about investing. Unless the investment is small enough to give it a try anyway. But in the situation this is now there is no choice. Sueing wont help anything so the only thing that remains is hoping that ukyo is the honest man he claims to be and see if he can bring things back. At least ukyo is still there even though he knows he is going to be sued because of ukyo loan. I mean labcoin and pirateat40 was gone long ago at that point in time.
Its a pity that the community is using a decentralized currency but pretty much all possible points of centralization fail. Letting the members be in the mercy of ken, who seems to be unable to turn his promise into reality, ukyo... who faced unknown problems he claims trying to solve or entrepreneurs like karpeles or danny who bit a chunk that was too big for them.
I wonder if that whole situation will change at some point.
^I apologize -- a cheap shot on my part.
I'm not sure if it's a language barrier, though. Many people here seem to let emotions drive their financial decisions. Which isn't a bad thing, but it's exploited by con men. Choreographing a personal, emotional experience for the target is one of the basics of social engineering. Passing oneself off as a victim, as a guy in trouble who needs your help to make things work out, is another. Sharing tidbits of information and making you feel like a participant in the drama, instead of just the mark -- yet another. This is all 101-level stuff.
I'm not saying that I found the smoking gun -- just that *all the evidence points to this being a con*, down to Danny's involvement.
And I'm not suggesting you file suit against Jon -- too much time has passed, most likely pointless now.
I'm not sure if it's a language barrier, though. Many people here seem to let emotions drive their financial decisions. Which isn't a bad thing, but it's exploited by con men. Choreographing a personal, emotional experience for the target is one of the basics of social engineering. Passing oneself off as a victim, as a guy in trouble who needs your help to make things work out, is another. Sharing tidbits of information and making you feel like a participant in the drama, instead of just the mark -- yet another. This is all 101-level stuff.
I'm not saying that I found the smoking gun -- just that *all the evidence points to this being a con*, down to Danny's involvement.
And I'm not suggesting you file suit against Jon -- too much time has passed, most likely pointless now.
So the only evidence you have is your belief... the only evidence i have is the feeling i get from the chats with ukyo...
Is this again a misuse of english words from my side? Sometimes i dont know when things are read different in english than i would say it in my mother language.
I meant i write relatively often with ukyo. And i have the impression he is after it and tries to solve things on different levels. Of course thats no evidence, only an impression. Though i think its more than a claim of thiefery that has nothing backing it.
So the only evidence you have is your belief... the only evidence i have is the feeling i get from the chats with ukyo...
where is our money?
FK UKYO
FK UKYO
So the only evidence you have is your belief... the only evidence i have is the feeling i get from the chats with ukyo. Its not that he is gone... he is reachable if you want.
"Why would somebody work for free..." I fear that shows more about your character than ukyo's. Only because you cant imagine that there are honest people that try to solve thingsthat they crashed doesnt mean there arent such people.
Get in contact with ukyo and speak with him. And try not to let your fears go amok. As long as you dont have evidence for the claims of stealing its useless to claim that he stole anyway. Because you wont get it back then anyway.
"Why would somebody work for free..." I fear that shows more about your character than ukyo's. Only because you cant imagine that there are honest people that try to solve thingsthat they crashed doesnt mean there arent such people.
Get in contact with ukyo and speak with him. And try not to let your fears go amok. As long as you dont have evidence for the claims of stealing its useless to claim that he stole anyway. Because you wont get it back then anyway.
He already made millions of our coins, and someday when bitcoin is worth 3 $ he buys our coins back
and says he solved the problem..
and says he solved the problem..
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