Topic: [Weexchange issue] The fall of Ukyo III - Updates and references - page 5. (Read 49953 times)

You are naive if you think he is working on something.  Why would somebody work for free, or worse, work to lose money.

So you gave up. Or do you try to sue him? For what if you want to do this?

Anyway... i dont care about the percent of chance. Ukyo is still speaking... and my impression is that he works on things. If you have proof or a hint that he stole the coins then sue him. Without that its only an accusation out of your anger.

I'm surprised some people still don't seem to get it.

Ukyo stole all your money.  Move on, it's long gone now. His loan site and your loan shares don't mean anything.  It has just been a red herring to pretend like he actually cares or is doing anything towards getting you your money back (as I've been saying for like 5 months now).  Really you got to wake up and smell the coffee. Move on or do something about it.  It's pretty much already too late.

If you think Ukyo is just going to magically one day pay you back... well its just not likely. What would be the point of stealing your money in the first place if he intended to give back to you. It's incredible, to me, how people buy his bullshit.  You know what would mean something? If he gave your money back. The loan site doesn't mean shit.

As for the IRC chat, sure he is there, but he has said a single fucking thing of any substance in months on it. It's always nebulous uncertainities dolled out each time. Seriously, try to look at the situation objectively. The guy ripped us off for millions and if you think he's going to pay you back at this point, many months later.... I dunno what else to say, you'll believe anything.

SOSLOVE868 aka Yuan Lu is organizing a lawsuit. It is too late to join now.

Last public activity from Ukyo have been him setting up a loan portal for claiming loan shares and providing support for that. (last post on the forum was last week)

According to Ukyo, the problem with weex is "out of his hands atm". The following is from IRC a month ago:

i don't get it, what was his last update about the situation?
anyone contacted him via irc or even personally?

who is organizing the lawsuit,  am i still able to join?

You should just have contacted Ukyo on IRC, he is usually quite easy to get a hold on there. (unlike here and through support tickets)

If you didn't know then Ukyo set up a portal where users can withdraw some money which Ukyo defines as "available" we can only guess why the rest is "unavailable".
6.175% of the stuck funds are available for withdrawal atm: http://weexclaims.weexchange.co/

Sorry AvenG there is little hope.  You are in the same boat as another 200 or so people. Jon Montroll, the owner, stole everyone's deposits....he hasn't even publicly given an excuse for his taking of all our bitcoins.  I guess you should at least take solace than it is only .41 btc.   I lost around 1 btc and some people lost dozens.  Additionally Ukyo / Jon Montroll took thousands of bitcoins worth of loans and fucked off with that money as well.   If you look around this forum there are at least 3 other threads on this.

There is a lawsuit being looked at SosLove but its probably not something you want to involve in for .41 btc, and I think it is too late. Additionally he constructed his company with the intent purpose of being difficult to charge for illegal activity or liability. Beyond that his information, address etc is available, if you live near him it'd be great if you go confront him about it and try to get your money back. I would if I was anywhere close. He's in Texas I believe.

Hi folks,
Unfortunately I'm a victim of this scam too.. here is my story:

I was able to withdraw funds successfully from BF for the 1st time on October, later I tried to withdraw a smaller amount but then got scammed. I sent several tickets without getting any response. Soon after I lost access to my WeEx account (my password stopped working), worst of all the recovery account feature didn't work neither the support service. So I was forced to wait until now in order to recover my account again.. Finally, I was able to recover it last week after waiting patiently 6 months. I already sent 2 support tickets regarding my >6 months withdraw order still in "processing status" of just 0.412BTC. I didn't get any response yet. My patience has a limit..

I would like to know your suggestions, I'm wondering if there is any other way to claim my money?

here a screen:

I find it odd that people seem fixated on the loan site. Ukyo has made 0 progress towards paying you back and is not going to pay you back if he can at all avoid it, so it doesn't really matter whether the site is up or down or sideways. This guy is not going to pay you back if you don't do anything, you can check for changes to the loan site 10 times a day it doesn't make a lick of difference to the actual situation of Ukyo defrauding the community of millions of dollars worth of BTC.

It has been many months and nothing has happened. He still hasn't even told you how he 'lost' the thousands of BTC.  Would you not expect if it was truly a LOAN that he would have at least some of it left to pay you back with?      Or if he took 1000s of btc loan he would have spent any of it to cover the 1000s of lost BTC deposits to WeExchange?  This guy is just a straight up thief, the sooner you realize that the sooner you can move on.

A few hours ago:

From the loan thread

Neither the WeEx claims nor Ukyo.Loan sites are working for me.  The former intermittently allows me to log in, but shows all 0s when I know I still have balance stuck.  And I was seemingly able to create my login for Ukyo.Loan, but logging in simply takes me to the login screen again immediately.

Any word from Ukyo on IRC?

Hello there TF, you won't respond to any of my emails, maybe you'll respond here....

What's the latest on the coinlenders situation? I take it you're still working on a resolution to get the lenders back their coins?

What's that?

Hi the actual webiste address is: https://weexclaims.weexchange.co/main.php

Good luck trying to get your funds though:  Bitcoind resources currently overloaded, please try back in about 10 minutes. 

I have been getting this message for about a week while trying to get .32BTC of the 5.2 BTC owed.

Would this be considered progress?  Not like the coinlenders/inputs theft.  I have not heard of any progress or resolution with that.

Any comments on UKYO + Neo + Bee + CryptoCyprus-aka-Danny cooperation ?
Wonder what Ukyo's comment on his involvement with that scam might be.

Quick update for all UKYO's loan holders or We exchange Users.

I am still negotiating the hourly rate with my lawyer. but below are some information for you if you want to join to my lawsuit against Ukyo. I still think that lawsuit against UKYO is still the only hope you can have a chance to know what going on there and received possible pay back from Ukyo .

1: people who joint my lawsuit will need to send some deposit to the lawyer. I will gives you his bank account detail, and also you can contact him to find out what happening there. before you send the money to the lawyer ,I will gives you all his personal detail and contact detail. 

2: all cost related to against Ukyo is calculate based on the percentage of how much UKYO owes you towards total liability that against Ukyo in this lawsuit case.
For example, if Ukyo owes me 100 BTC , and there are 1000 total liability in this lawsuit is against to UKYO. then I will respond for 10% of the total cost. of course, that I also will received 10% from what UKYO pays in the future.

3: all cost are calculate in USD , so for people who willing to join this case, you have to prepare some USD first.

4: if not convenience for you   to send USD directly to the Lawyer, it also possible you can send me BTC, then I will based on current conversion rate and help you to send the USD to the Lawyer. (if you trust me, but I do prefer that you send directly to the lawyer).

5: The final hourly rate still being negotiating , so is only receiving people who willing to join me at this moment by PM or Email to [email protected]( once it been confirm and I will let you know the final rate, and you make your choice that either to join or not.)

6: Last call to joint this lawsuit is 20.04.2014, and also you will need to get you money to the Lawyers account before 30.04.2014. after that date , that Lawyer will star his work, so it is no reason to bothering him to further modify the agreement between us and him.


PS: If there are any unclear information that please do ask me, and however  forgive my poor English.

Kind Regard

Yuan Lu



 

There's no way they can wriggle out of this without having their books, such as they are, pored over. They're already being sued to bejezus and back.

It's the difference between stealing a million dollars in bitcoin from random internet losers before bitcoin went mainstream, and attempting to steal hundreds of millions of suddenly very real dollars from people who have multiple lawyers on their quick dial.

Yeah... getting one fourth of the coins back is something at least. More than with other crashs. Though i wonder if really something will buy all these debts and work as MtGox from then. Firstly the name has a bad tone now. And secondly... the user funds were lost. Thats way way more mtgox can earn themself. So it will take a long time until these debts would be worked up. I cant imagine something would want to start an exchange with such a big problem bound to it. It would way easier to start a new one simply.