Topic: [Weexchange issue] The fall of Ukyo III - Updates and references - page 10. (Read 49953 times)
December 17, 2013, 07:32:05 AM
December 14, 2013, 12:17:08 PM
As was announced earlier, most of the coins that were stored in WeExchange.co are now gone. We are still limited in what we can share about how that happened, and what is being done about it, but we do have some updates.
There are still approximately 386btc available in the wallets. These coins will be paid proportionally to all owed users, based on current user balances, by Monday night.
All old withdrawal requests will be removed and each user will need to initiate new withdrawals when this new balance is ready.
Full instructions on how to access the site to process these withdrawals will be provided by 5pm (GMT+2) on Monday 16th December, when you should be able to withdraw the portion of available funds allotted to your account.
This is far from ideal, but it gets every satoshi that is available to those with outstanding balances. When we are able, we will announce more details on what is being done to repay the remaining coins that are owed to WeExchange.co users.
There are still approximately 386btc available in the wallets. These coins will be paid proportionally to all owed users, based on current user balances, by Monday night.
All old withdrawal requests will be removed and each user will need to initiate new withdrawals when this new balance is ready.
Full instructions on how to access the site to process these withdrawals will be provided by 5pm (GMT+2) on Monday 16th December, when you should be able to withdraw the portion of available funds allotted to your account.
This is far from ideal, but it gets every satoshi that is available to those with outstanding balances. When we are able, we will announce more details on what is being done to repay the remaining coins that are owed to WeExchange.co users.
updated the first post, sorry about the delay
December 12, 2013, 06:24:17 PM
Everyone at Neo & Bee are now involved in this resolution process.
Looks like janitor is the man in charge!
That works for me too, if the janitor can refund us
December 12, 2013, 05:10:41 PM
Everyone at Neo & Bee are now involved in this resolution process.
Looks like janitor is the man in charge!
December 10, 2013, 09:24:50 PM
when bitcoin is <250$ maybe 
Well, actually, that works for me... I just wonder if it will even fall back to that level one day!
December 10, 2013, 09:22:45 PM
when bitcoin is <250$ maybe
December 10, 2013, 07:43:37 PM
Basically, all I want to know is: when will we be able to withdraw from WeExchange.
Simple question that needs a simple answer...
Simple question that needs a simple answer...
December 10, 2013, 07:03:12 PM
Not sure i understand. How are you reading these two statements:
Everyone at Neo & Bee are now involved in this resolution process.
When I say no monetary cost, then NO ONE who works for Neo & Bee is involved, then I mean just that.
I'm sure it is just a matter of the definition of "involved".
My guess is that the employees of Neo&Bee are working on the Neo&Bee stuff and not working specifically on the solution to the weex issue.
Jon and Danny are most likely working in Neo&Bee's building which means that the employees are available to help.
The people I have at Neo and Bee are available to me for advice, ideas in their free time. Also every contact I have are available to me.
Being available to advice makes them "kind of" involved.
Edit:
Reading Danny's quote again makes me think he only meant that they aren't involved in the sense that they aren't getting paid to help.
When I say no monetary cost, then NO ONE who works for Neo & Bee is involved, then I mean just that.
Danny made a public statement that Neo & Bee was involved in resolving this thing. Then he stated that it is not, only he, Danny, an individual, is involved. This is an entirely different can of beans.
If N&B was involved, it could be held accountable for any wrongdoing as a corporation, with all of its assets exposed.
If it's only Danny, then the corporate money is off limits here -- we're just dealing with a private individual.
You can see how a person might feel more secure knowing that a large corporation is behind a promise, as opposed to only its CEO.
December 10, 2013, 06:48:06 PM
Not sure i understand. How are you reading these two statements:
Everyone at Neo & Bee are now involved in this resolution process.
When I say no monetary cost, then NO ONE who works for Neo & Bee is involved, then I mean just that.
I'm sure it is just a matter of the definition of "involved".
My guess is that the employees of Neo&Bee are working on the Neo&Bee stuff and not working specifically on the solution to the weex issue.
Jon and Danny are most likely working in Neo&Bee's building which means that the employees are available to help.
The people I have at Neo and Bee are available to me for advice, ideas in their free time. Also every contact I have are available to me.
Being available to advice makes them "kind of" involved.
Edit:
Reading Danny's quote again makes me think he only meant that they aren't involved in the sense that they aren't getting paid to help.
When I say no monetary cost, then NO ONE who works for Neo & Bee is involved, then I mean just that.
December 10, 2013, 06:42:16 PM
...
Does that include the janitor?
Apparently not. Turns out NO ONE at Neo & Bee is involved.
From Danny* himself :
*he uses his name on this forum
It can be read as no employee is working for ukyo. So no employee costs are used. That doesnt have to mean the NEOBEE-Heads.
Everyone at Neo & Bee are now involved in this resolution process.
Does that include the janitor?
Apparently not. Turns out NO ONE at Neo & Bee is involved.
From Danny* himself :
When I say no monetary cost, then NO ONE who works for Neo & Bee is involved, then I mean just that.
*he uses his name on this forum
It can be read as no employee is working for ukyo. So no employee costs are used. That doesnt have to mean the NEOBEE-Heads.
Not sure i understand. How are you reading these two statements:
Everyone at Neo & Bee are now involved in this resolution process.
When I say no monetary cost, then NO ONE who works for Neo & Bee is involved, then I mean just that.
Yes, it contradicts each other somehow. I only try to find an explaination. The last sentence might mean no paid users are involved so its no cost for NEOBEE and the first sentence might mean they want to say that NEOBEE is fully behind this now. Something like that. But the sentences are strange for sure...
December 10, 2013, 06:11:38 PM
...
Does that include the janitor?
Apparently not. Turns out NO ONE at Neo & Bee is involved.
From Danny* himself :
*he uses his name on this forum
It can be read as no employee is working for ukyo. So no employee costs are used. That doesnt have to mean the NEOBEE-Heads.
Everyone at Neo & Bee are now involved in this resolution process.
Does that include the janitor?
Apparently not. Turns out NO ONE at Neo & Bee is involved.
From Danny* himself :
When I say no monetary cost, then NO ONE who works for Neo & Bee is involved, then I mean just that.
*he uses his name on this forum
It can be read as no employee is working for ukyo. So no employee costs are used. That doesnt have to mean the NEOBEE-Heads.
Not sure i understand. How are you reading these two statements:
Everyone at Neo & Bee are now involved in this resolution process.
When I say no monetary cost, then NO ONE who works for Neo & Bee is involved, then I mean just that.
December 10, 2013, 05:57:21 PM
Right... but NEOBEE have their own Business. Helping a scammer for no good reason would hurt their own business badly. Might be they dont have a clue about what really is going on but im pretty sure they are cautious and checked before they jumped in. I mean i wouldnt risk my business so easily.
Your statement is based on the assumption and Neo & Bee want to run a legit business. Unfortunately there is no hard evidence for that.
Even if they were scam you need some kind of scammer honor to protect other scammers. Thats not existing. Except you think its a conspiracy.
But im already at the stage of giving up. I cant being angry anymore. Ill wait and at some point i will use an lawyer. Till now i think theres a chance they work on it.
Everyone at Neo & Bee are now involved in this resolution process.
Does that include the janitor?
Apparently not. Turns out NO ONE at Neo & Bee is involved.
From Danny* himself :
When I say no monetary cost, then NO ONE who works for Neo & Bee is involved, then I mean just that.
*he uses his name on this forum
It can be read as no employee is working for ukyo. So no employee costs are used. That doesnt have to mean the NEOBEE-Heads.
December 10, 2013, 03:02:11 PM
Everyone at Neo & Bee are now involved in this resolution process.
Does that include the janitor?
Apparently not. Turns out NO ONE at Neo & Bee is involved.
From Danny* himself :
When I say no monetary cost, then NO ONE who works for Neo & Bee is involved, then I mean just that.
*he uses his name on this forum
December 10, 2013, 12:56:17 PM
Right... but NEOBEE have their own Business. Helping a scammer for no good reason would hurt their own business badly. Might be they dont have a clue about what really is going on but im pretty sure they are cautious and checked before they jumped in. I mean i wouldnt risk my business so easily.
Your statement is based on the assumption and Neo & Bee want to run a legit business. Unfortunately there is no hard evidence for that.
December 09, 2013, 10:39:53 PM
still no news from Ukyo....
just checked WEx...still in Processing mode. sucks.
Date 2013-11-17 16:12:00
Transaction ID Dnb5QQvKN1tWbR7kULACDrdK89heQn6K
Type Withdraw
Debit 2.06771160 BTC
Credit
Fee 0.00000000 BTC
BTC Transaction
Status Processing
December 09, 2013, 03:30:45 PM
Everyone at Neo & Bee are now involved in this resolution process.
Does that include the janitor?
The whole thing was his idea.
December 09, 2013, 03:22:11 PM
Everyone at Neo & Bee are now involved in this resolution process.
Does that include the janitor?
December 09, 2013, 03:07:15 PM
Everyone at Neo & Bee are now involved in this resolution process.
December 09, 2013, 02:53:53 PM
It's Neo & Bee and they have 30+ people working for them, not just one or two 
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3732068
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3732068
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Neo & Bee has agreed to take an active role in ensuring this situation gets resolved.
December 09, 2013, 02:47:26 PM
[…] would not make sense if it was a scam.
That was said about pretty much every scam ever.Right... but NEOBEE have their own Business. Helping a scammer for no good reason would hurt their own business badly. Might be they dont have a clue about what really is going on but im pretty sure they are cautious and checked before they jumped in. I mean i wouldnt risk my business so easily.
But as i understand it's not NEOBEE who jumped in.. it's just a single person who is working for NEOBEE...
Really? I read it from the start that NEOBEE is helping. The announcement from NEOBEE sounded so too. I might be wrong though.
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