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October 27, 2019, 09:48:44 PM
Abu bakr Al-baghdadi is dead! The funny thing is, a successor will find its way back again and the cycle continues. The only way to break the cycle is for Islamism to disappear on the face of this world! If not, then muslims will continue to give birth to future potential terrorists and such!
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October 27, 2019, 02:53:36 PM
Jihad means extreme love towards something, correct me if I am wrong but if they are killing people for that reason then they are not Muslims.
how can they be not Muslim when they believe in the principle of it? the only difference is how they interpret the meaning, but that doesn't mean they are not Muslim.
Terrorists are terrorists no matter which religion they belong to.
true, but in today's society majority of terrorist are Muslims. it makes you wonder why. ( we also have one here in Asia and they are connected to ISIS)
homophobes - I see this is something against the nature cycle.AFAIK human is the only animal attracted to same gender.
Wrong, there are other animals who attracted to the same gender, not just humans. you can look it up in google.
There is only God and its Allah,other religious people call him with different names.
I agree! I don't understand the reason why most religious people insist that GOD, Allah etc.. should be called the way they call it, the meaning is all the same.

Yes the radical elements are indeed muslims but it is their own version of Islam. Nothing to do with the message followed by the others. Problem here is Islam lacks a supreme clerk. Like Pope in Vatican. If your teacher says something of Christianity, and the pope says something, the world will believe the pope. He's the representative of Christianity. It's not the same in Islam. Since it's so rigid in terms of authority, it leaves open doors to all types of interpretation (and misinterpretions) for people to exploit.

Majority are terrorists. But also majority are from countries with rich oil supply. Majority are from places where getting invaded is normal. All of politics, geo politics and dirty games are in play. You can't really generalise.

It doesn't matter if animals are attracted to same gender or not. What happens between two consensual adults (doesn't matter their gender), is not a business of the state. No Islam or Christianity or any homohating religion has a right to deny them that right to freedom. However, everyone has a right to thought, and unless the thought is out there to harm someone, thoughts cant be prosecuted.

Basically human beings needed God when they were scared. To justify their existence and to answer questions from nature and to justify their purpose of living. Call it by any name, if there is a God, he would love all names.

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October 27, 2019, 01:40:11 PM
Jihad means extreme love towards something, correct me if I am wrong but if they are killing people for that reason then they are not Muslims.
how can they be not Muslim when they believe in the principle of it? the only difference is how they interpret the meaning, but that doesn't mean they are not Muslim.
Terrorists are terrorists no matter which religion they belong to.
true, but in today's society majority of terrorist are Muslims. it makes you wonder why. ( we also have one here in Asia and they are connected to ISIS)
homophobes - I see this is something against the nature cycle.AFAIK human is the only animal attracted to same gender.
Wrong, there are other animals who attracted to the same gender, not just humans. you can look it up in google.
There is only God and its Allah,other religious people call him with different names.
I agree! I don't understand the reason why most religious people insist that GOD, Allah etc.. should be called the way they call it, the meaning is all the same.
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October 27, 2019, 01:16:19 PM

Isn't obvious? By association.  You believe in the same religion as the crazy wackos, you know, the homophobes, misogynists, Islamists, Jihadists and the terrorists.

No supremacy?  May I remind you: لَا إِلٰهَ إِلَّا ٱلله  "There is no God but Allah".  So now you think Islamism is not a thing?

You are full of it.

I don't want to be friends with Muslims for the same reason I don't want to associate with Christians, Jews or mentally retarded. 
misogynists - marrying an young girl doesn't mean misogynists but slaving is also against Islam.

Jihad means extreme love towards something,correct me if I am wrong but if they are killing people for that reason then they are not Muslims.

Terrorists are terrorists no matter which religion they belong to.

homophobes - I see this is something against the nature cycle.AFAIK human is the only animal attracted to same gender.

There is only God and its Allah,other religious people call him with different names.

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October 27, 2019, 11:01:26 AM
So why do you think that almost all Muslims agree that it is a good idea to kill anyone who insults Islam or its prophet?

What is the reason why they want to kill people who draw a cartoon of a warlord and a pedophile who lived 1400 years ago?


Who agree here? NO one has right to kill anyone even if they insulted anyone.

But imagine the same kind of insult was given to Jesus the same kind of threats may be arise to that creator so why particularly targeting Islam?

This thread is about Islam.

Answer the question I posed.

BTW, go to your mosque and tell it to your Muslim friends that they need to stop threatening to kill people when prophet Muhammad or Allah is insulted.  YOU need to talk to Muslims about this, not the non-Muslims.

Non-Muslims see what Muslims are doing, you don't need to convince us, you need to convince Muslims to do what you preach here on this site.


This thread is about why you hate Islam,it maybe for anyone who hates it.

Whenever I visit mosque I find people with peace and equality even I visited other muslime countries where king and people are same while praying there is no supermacy as you think in general.

But if you found anyone influencing people to kill people then why you blame every muslim? Why people don't even wanted to speak with hijab in country like America?
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October 27, 2019, 09:12:48 AM
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That is what Muslims should be doing, not going around denying they have a problem, aka practicing Taqiyya.  We are all grown-ups here.
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Misquoting someone's religious text then using that to dog on them is not really very 'grown-up'.  In fact it is rather juvenile and desperate.

I don't know jack shit about Islam because I've not studied it.  I'm absolutely not about to get my information from people who have strategic reasons to make me hate them.  As a matter of fact, you asserting that Muslims have violence problems kinda makes me believe that they do not.  Or at least question that it's much of a big deal.  I'm pretty sure I would be about as violent as possible if I were being treated like a Palestinian, Syrian, etc, etc.  I mean if someone attacks me, kills my family, and steals my land I'll certainly be fighting back in any way possible.  It would have nothing to do with religion because I'm an Atheist.

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October 27, 2019, 04:12:50 AM
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What is the reason why they want to kill people who draw a cartoon of a warlord and a pedophile who lived 1400 years ago?


Who agree here? NO one has right to kill anyone even if they insulted anyone.

But imagine the same kind of insult was given to Jesus the same kind of threats may be arise to that creator so why particularly targeting Islam?

It has to do with getting two of your adversaries fighting with one another while you sit back, enjoy, and profit.  Islam and Christianity being the two in this case.

This cartoon seems a really good case study in a couple of propaganda techniques.  The chief one is 'accuse your adversaries of that which you are guilty of.'  We see it all over the place these days.

I actually bothered to look up 'Muslim (8.3311)'.  You'll be unsurprised to learn that the 'to have sex with her' in parens part seems to be fabricated.  Probably the propagandists didn't think anyone would look.

Turns out that Talmudic Judiism speaks in some depth about sex with children.  The modern day apologists for Judaism are quick to point out that there were arranged marriages so because a 'girl of 3' was stated it didn't mean that the Rabbi was boning her (or him.)  While the explanation could apply to the correctly translated Islamic texts, there is trouble in Talmud-land:  The Talmudic debate seemed to specify three as the age when a girl's body was 'ready' which wouldn't make much sense unless sex was involved.

Dovetailing with the Rabbinical texts we have a seemingly never ending stream of certain behaviors among people of a certain background (Allen, Polanski, Weiner, Weinstein, Dershewitz, Barak, Epstein, etc, etc, etc.)

I would take exception to the idea that a 3 year old girl's body is 'ready' for sex, but then I'm just a animilistic goyim who's soul stems from the satanic spheres.  The Rabbis have souls which come from by the divine so who am I to argue that it's pretty fucking awful to be dicking 3-year-olds when the Talmidic Rabbis say it's all good?

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October 27, 2019, 02:03:58 AM
So why do you think that almost all Muslims agree that it is a good idea to kill anyone who insults Islam or its prophet?

What is the reason why they want to kill people who draw a cartoon of a warlord and a pedophile who lived 1400 years ago?


Who agree here? NO one has right to kill anyone even if they insulted anyone.

But imagine the same kind of insult was given to Jesus the same kind of threats may be arise to that creator so why particularly targeting Islam?
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October 26, 2019, 09:46:28 PM
I see nothing bad about a religion such as Islam except for certain religious practices within a religion. Looking at Islamic religion, I observe most Muslims to show so much love for one another, a lot oneness is expressed by these people but,
Where the problem always sets in is the jihad aspects. Where most people of different religion are regarded as infidels and a stain to the earth.
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October 26, 2019, 02:23:50 AM
Okay,just leave everything,did you ever been close with someone who is Muslim? ...

Yes.
Then how you are still alive,every Muslim supposed to kill non muslims right?

Smiley

From the western point of view, a Muslim who walks into a cafe and blows himself up along with 100 innocent people of all types is a real coward. Those kinds of Muslims would not mess with me (or anyone who is very likely to shoot back, etc)

Again from the Western point of view, were I to be engaged in fighting world terrorism (I'm not) I would literally be surrounded on all sides by the "good Muslims" who were also fighting world terrorism.

Now, let's look at your assertion. every Muslim supposed to kill non muslims right?

That is not what your books say regarding action toward non muslims. It has various statements about protecting "people of the book" eg Jews and Christians, but also taxing them. Muslims are not to be so tolerant of non-believers, the Kaffers, are they? What is your opinion of that?

Today in the real world Muslims have pretty much driven Christians out of numerous places and countries in the Middle East.
I guess they have dare to do anything because they are going to blowup in the next moment. Smiley

Am I hearing good Muslims? Wah yeah that is what I am telling Muslims also same like others who fight against terrosirsm so not every muslim is terrorist.

AFAIK,Quran said if you are a muslim try to make others follow the right path by words or action,if you can't convince them then just leave them never told us to kill for doing bad things for that the punishment will be given from God.

Muslims not discriminated anywhere? This is just politics nothing related to religion.
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October 25, 2019, 05:48:55 PM
Okay,just leave everything,did you ever been close with someone who is Muslim? ...

Yes.
Then how you are still alive,every Muslim supposed to kill non muslims right?

Smiley

From the western point of view, a Muslim who walks into a cafe and blows himself up along with 100 innocent people of all types is a real coward. Those kinds of Muslims would not mess with me (or anyone who is very likely to shoot back, etc)

Again from the Western point of view, were I to be engaged in fighting world terrorism (I'm not) I would literally be surrounded on all sides by the "good Muslims" who were also fighting world terrorism.

Now, let's look at your assertion. every Muslim supposed to kill non muslims right?

That is not what your books say regarding action toward non muslims. It has various statements about protecting "people of the book" eg Jews and Christians, but also taxing them. Muslims are not to be so tolerant of non-believers, the Kaffers, are they? What is your opinion of that?

Today in the real world Muslims have pretty much driven Christians out of numerous places and countries in the Middle East.
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October 25, 2019, 09:32:25 AM
Okay,just leave everything,did you ever been close with someone who is Muslim? ...

Yes.
Then how you are still alive,every Muslim supposed to kill non muslims right?
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October 24, 2019, 05:06:41 PM
Of the little knowledge of Islam I had, it was one of the progressive religion of it's time to start with.
Religion were made as a rule of conduct so that people would do the right things and be afraid to do wrongs. But subsequently it was used by rulers to enforce their power over the citizens. For that, they even misinterpreted the words and traditions to suit them. People revolted and we came up with laws to guide everything and also the religion.
But that didn't happened with Islam, rulers even enforce their rule with the rudimentary religious laws. Christianity was no better in the 17th century.

There are plenty of exceptions in Islam following people and countries. It's also the environment that influence people but still, Islam now is the largest group of brainwashed people in the world, They are obsessed with their god. In 21st century, almost all of people would agree that they'll go with what they feel right than what their religious leaders would say. Not with Islam, who still believes it's good for males to show their face while the females should cover their body.
 

That's a very realistic look at the situation, but I beg to differ in one respect. I think a careful look and comparison will easily show that in the 17th century, Christianity was far, far better than Islam today.

In other words, say at the middle of the Spanish Inquisition, I would argue that the actual practice of Christianity was superior to that of Islam today.
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October 24, 2019, 03:49:28 PM
Okay,just leave everything,did you ever been close with someone who is Muslim? ...

Yes.
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October 24, 2019, 01:01:59 PM
Okay,just leave everything,did you ever been close with someone who is Muslim? Most of the didn't or don't want.I had seen that western people even refuse to sit near Muslims then who is the sinner here?

Are you afraid that they will be a human bomb?

Hell,everyone is human,don't see every Muslim as terrorist.
yes that's what happened buddy. while Muslims themselves accept and consider themselves guests when meeting non-Muslims.

maybe he hates because Islam is synonymous with terrorism. even though in reality it is not true. ISIS problem?
try to learn more, the beginning of ISIS and why it happened. and everyone is provoked by the media so that heats up and hates it.

try to see the news that happened in new zealand, about the shooting of Muslims who are doing Friday prayers. honestly I saw the video directly, before the media deleted it.
and who is the culprit?
Is it Muslim?
and who is a savage?
where is peace?

so now there is nothing to debate, I just want to say "all the goals of religion are the same, namely to create peace and peace in the world".

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Hell,everyone is human,don't see every Muslim as terrorist.
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yeah friend, some of that is what I think.
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October 24, 2019, 12:24:38 PM
Okay,just leave everything,did you ever been close with someone who is Muslim? Most of the didn't or don't want.I had seen that western people even refuse to sit near Muslims then who is the sinner here?

Are you afraid that they will be a human bomb?

Hell,everyone is human,don't see every Muslim as terrorist.
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October 24, 2019, 10:22:33 AM
....,I just want you to be open mind and see what is happening everywhere other than what you were told by media.

Please stop that particular assertion.

You have NO CLUE what random people on an international forum are told or from what source.

Some of us do not watch any television, for example.

Many are highly distrustful of what the media projects.

I will tell you though, that in most Middle Eastern countries, incoming news is highly filtered, and things you say or write are very much monitored...

I don't watch television either but what about internet media,the same thing happening.

Only middle east people are Muslim for most of the people here,but they were everywhere and each of them have different culture!

I'm going to have to agree with Spendulus here. If anything, this forum should be more diverse than many other outlets. Many people here are well informed and show a distrust for government (I mean why else would we all be in to blockchain)?

I have heavy doubt that the majority of users here listen to MSM nonsense. On that note, if anything, the MSM would be the ones defending Islam and promoting it as a peaceful religion.

People here seek out information where they see fit. I personally read ZeroHedge often. If you're getting your world news from CNN or similar outlets you almost deserve your own fate.

So the conclusions being drawn about Islam would come primarily from users forming their own opinion, from hundreds or thousands of sources. Not what we are being "told" to believe.
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October 23, 2019, 02:35:00 AM
....,I just want you to be open mind and see what is happening everywhere other than what you were told by media.

Please stop that particular assertion.

You have NO CLUE what random people on an international forum are told or from what source.

Some of us do not watch any television, for example.

Many are highly distrustful of what the media projects.

I will tell you though, that in most Middle Eastern countries, incoming news is highly filtered, and things you say or write are very much monitored...

I don't watch television either but what about internet media,the same thing happening.

Only middle east people are Muslim for most of the people here,but they were everywhere and each of them have different culture!
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October 22, 2019, 10:02:39 PM
Of the little knowledge of Islam I had, it was one of the progressive religion of it's time to start with.
Religion were made as a rule of conduct so that people would do the right things and be afraid to do wrongs. But subsequently it was used by rulers to enforce their power over the citizens. For that, they even misinterpreted the words and traditions to suit them. People revolted and we came up with laws to guide everything and also the religion.
But that didn't happened with Islam, rulers even enforce their rule with the rudimentary religious laws. Christianity was no better in the 17th century.

There are plenty of exceptions in Islam following people and countries. It's also the environment that influence people but still, Islam now is the largest group of brainwashed people in the world, They are obsessed with their god. In 21st century, almost all of people would agree that they'll go with what they feel right than what their religious leaders would say. Not with Islam, who still believes it's good for males to show their face while the females should cover their body.
 


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October 22, 2019, 07:41:35 PM
Possibly no one actually know who(what) is God! Grin
I agree because even His picture which came from different religions still varies. There is a girl representation, an animal, a bearded man, a fat man and many more. But whatever or whoever he is, I strongly believe that there is a MIGHTY ONE, though He can't be perceived by our own senses.
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