Topic: What are the things you hate about Islam! - page 8. (Read 1078 times)

People have the image that Arabs are the only Muslims but muslims are Asians,Americans,Africans and more so they have different cultural belief.Arab countries were still ruled by kings where people never treated equal to men that is the reason why they are being like that but it doesn't mean islam taught them to do.

I'm getting more confused because of the jargons both of you used. According to what I have understand, Jihads are the ones who only commit suicides or ready to die for Allah so most probably terrorist groups like ISIS are all Jihads? Then what they are really fighting for? I can't understand why they brutally kill their hostages

There is nothing as hate, the media and the world has given a negative image to the Islam community. This is particularly because of the extremists. Another thing people who have Islam friends circle knew the truth about the same.

As said multiple marriage system is now becoming more and more worse, and came across some incident in Iraq. Here due to the economic situation very small aged girls were married to old men. Another thing is the punishments, those are good at some point as it has reduced the crime rate.

I don't hate Islam - I have nothing against this religion. But I don't like things which happens in some countries, especially in extreme Islam countries like Saudi Arabia or Iran. One of the main issues is treatment of women. Man and women don't have equal rights there. Few more things that I don't like is polygamy and children marriage. But I don't blame religion for it - it's probably just how people interpret it. Because muslims in Iran, Turkey, Indonesia or Azerbaijan probably aren't same.

It seems that you are into Islam, thank you.

The first wife is the one that suggests to his husband to marry another. So, this really happens but with a valid reason, I guess.  I watched a video of 'Asian Boss' from Indonesia related to the topic and IIRC, most of the women that were interviewed doesn't want their husbands to have another wife although they were aware of the rule.

If you visit politics section regularly then you may understand why I created this topic.Myself never wanted to show about my religion but here is in need of that so I did.Many other religion people got wrong understanding about Islam even Muslims had that is why they became extremist.

LOL, none. But I would ask all religious people to keep your religion as your private matter.  If I am a skateboarder, I dont go and write a grafiti on school wall skate or die. I take my skateboard and go skate.

There are some reasons why we don't have to eat pork which can be related to why in Islam it is not allowed to eat like other harmful things like alcohol,weeds.

Islam didn't teach anyone to commit suicide and even Suicide is Haram as per sharia.

I don't hate Islam but some of it's teaching are too extreme for me. what I hate is that some Muslims justifies their killings,rape and oppression by saying it is the will of Allah.
other than that most Muslim that I have met are nice and doesn't mock on what you believe.

I guess this part is only done by Jihad or Extremists and not the whole Islam itself. Still, that is pretty annoying that makes you think why are they wasting their lives.  We only live once, why lose it for some shitty reason.

I don't hate Muslims at all but I find some of their beliefs so weird. What I can't believe is that they're not allowed to eat pork or any food with pork's blood. I heard that their reason why they are not allowed to eat such kind of food because their Quran says that pigs are filthy animals. Am I right with that?

Another belief they believe in which I can't perceive is that they are ready to die for their Allah. They are so brave for doing it in all fairness but I still think it was idiocy, no offense but it makes no sense to commit suicide just for their god.

I am not sure is there approval needed from the first wife or not,but there are some stories where first wife asked husbands to marry another woman because she ca't be able to give birth or she fell into some disease which is not curable.

But if a guy got two wife then he should treat both girl in the same way,if he failed to do then he is doing sin.

Islam allowed multiple marriages but there is no need we have to marry multiple women if we satisfied with one.

I hate their mentality when someone feels that they were aggravated, let’s say verbally, everyone in their community will join even if its their member’s fault. I don’t know if it’s part of the their religious culture but it’s annoying.

One more thing is that, some of them are like ants. They can invade a whole community without you noticing. One day you’ll see 1 - 2 families living in the hood, after 2-6 months, they’ll be more than 5-10 families in the area.

No hates to them. I have muslim friends and I am happy that all of them are beautiful people. Some of them are better than anyone else.  

yes that's right, you should offer a certain amount of money to a woman's parents, but it's not mandatory. that must be done by a man there must be a marriage contract requested by the prospective wife.

That's right, if the man wants to marry another woman, he must get the approval of his first wife. not allowed, if the man marries another woman, but does not get approval from the first wife.

In Islam you can marry up to 4 women, sin / not permitted if more than that. and a man must be fair & wise to his wives.

By the way, offering money For wedding  has been the case for centuries in many European countries (not so much lately). Well at least proving that you have money to bring to the pot / buying all the whiteware was the responsibility of the soon to be husband.

Okay, I understand now then the guy should at least offer a certain amount of money to the parents of his woman that he will marry for the approval?

And if the guy wants to marry another woman, he should get the consent of his first wife? but if the guy marries another woman without the consent of his wife, that's haram/not allowed. Is that correct?

You're goofy. The religious texts known as science theory are not all utter nonsense. You really need to study the religious texts a little more to see how many of them make perfect sense.

The OP was about Islam.  So don't change the subject. All religious texts are utter nonsense.  The Quran is one of the latest versions.

If you are so interested in all the nonsense in the Bible, here it is:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/crazy-shit-bible-says-crazy-shit-christians-say-1367154

I want to make the distinction between Islam the religion and the culture of its follower.

Of course you will find some die-hard muslim from some very radical countries whose follower are not very well educated.
But anyone can be gas-lighted to have their belief distorted.

Muslim in Indonesia don't behave and have the same practice than in Saudi Arabia, same as muslims in America.


Slavery was accepted in Christianity, have you forgotten the slave trade between europe and the USA

Not everywhere, only if the country you live in allows it. Mainly in poor countries where wife could have died in labour and where men would go to war and die, widows would then remarry.
At least a few branches of the christianity allow polygamy (even though it is not the majority). I don't believe reading about American mulsim having multiple wife, nor in any european countries.

Not really, many muslims where against saddam hussein, And trial and court exist, have you heard of a muslim judge saying : you both are muslim so i can't pick one that is guilty, you are both not gulty.

Hum, fuck a dead wife ? i'd like to see the quote. As per marrying children, this has been done in every abrahamic religion. Better not look at what catholic priest nowadays behind closest door

I do respect your point of view, but you (like me) obviously cherry picked the part that you want to see.




It depends where you live, nowadays i would say that most terrorists are white male with supremacist idea - I wouldn't go as far as saying that they wish everybody was a christian (because they very often say that they are NOT doing this for the religion) but it is not hard to imagine their real motive.




Refer to Judaism as well
I didn't see many priest being kicked out of the church for pedophilia

What about the bible, any trace of that big boat where two of each species sailed during the judgment day.
Or about the earth was made in 7  days .... What about that magical cup that changes water in wine ?


I didn't see many stoning in USA or England, are you telling me that NO muslim women was ever raped in England or in the Great U of the SA ?
This is a practice that is country dependant, that most muslim condemn and that is mainly due to poor education of the local communities. 
By the way, back in USA and Europe, 16th -18th century, women were burnt alive because they were suspected to be witches.
Up until the 1960, black people where killed and burnt by white christian supremacist just for being black (but they had the same religion).

I didn't see many young muslim being killed in America after a kiss at school, again written, but just applied by gas-lighted people in poor uneducated country.

Burka : this one is on the most interesting. To be fair, i only did the research about it a few months ago. It blew my mind. So back in the first years of Islam. In the middle eastern region, small town didn't have public restroom (same as europe, and the USA where far from being discovered by a european boats). So women went to the woods or outside of the city at night to go to the bathroom. Back at that time, vile men where lurking outside city to find women to rape (we don't know if they were muslim, agnostic, jew or christians). 
A women wearing a scalf / veil was a free women, she had a husband and could have money, touching her would expose the rapist to hars punishment if they were caught. So women wearing the veil (burka) were safe. Slave however were a free for all. After a while the situation was explained to Mahomet. According to scriptures he consulted with god and god answered that all women should feel safe and that slaves should also be wearing the protective veil. So no rapist would touch them. Free women, gave away they old Burka to their slaves. And there come the story of why most women wear the burka in the old time. Oh by the way, great way to prevent heat stroke before the invention of cap, and suncream.


What about a book about a dude that open the read see so it people can cross (they didn't have boat).
Or the book about the magical cup that changes water in wine with the folk that can run a marathon on water.

Who is in its bubble ? we are all in a bubble of the thing we try to believe in.
People still believe today that the earth is flat and that vaccins cause autism.

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Long story short, Islam, like any other religion is perfect. But i guess it is an easy target since 9-11 (that was probably an inside job).

You guys should look at hindouism, they are the real fanatics, they kill any Indian that converted to other religion because they believe that once an indu  you can't ever be something else.
. source : https://www.newsweek.com/how-hindu-extremists-are-shutting-down-christian-churches-why-are-you-1360934

All of these religions when followed well brings nothing to this Earth but misery. If you are a real Muslim or Christian you need to convince the other people to follow your belief in order to save them. If they don't follow then you won't be friendly, communicate or help them because they are sinners and they won't be saved. These 2 religions are very dangerous no wonder both have their crusade wars. Lucky that most powerful countries are now nonreligious and tolerant to democracy and respect. Imagine if the US will flex its power and imposes or favoring Christianity in the world?

China and Russia are tolerant but with strict limitations too. The young  and powerful Prince in Saudi is becoming more liberal too.

One day, people will realize that the true religion is humanity and the world we are living. Our resources are starting to deplete and the climate is worsening. These very religious people don't care about these worldly happenings because they believe that their gods made these worsening events for a reason and that there is heaven waiting for them.