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Quote from: Spendulus on October 25, 2019, 06:48:55 PM

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Quote from: akram143 on October 24, 2019, 01:24:38 PM

Okay,just leave everything,did you ever been close with someone who is Muslim? ...

Yes.

Then how you are still alive,every Muslim supposed to kill non muslims right?

From the western point of view, a Muslim who walks into a cafe and blows himself up along with 100 innocent people of all types is a real coward. Those kinds of Muslims would not mess with me (or anyone who is very likely to shoot back, etc)

Again from the Western point of view, were I to be engaged in fighting world terrorism (I'm not) I would literally be surrounded on all sides by the "good Muslims" who were also fighting world terrorism.

Now, let's look at your assertion. every Muslim supposed to kill non muslims right?

That is not what your books say regarding action toward non muslims. It has various statements about protecting "people of the book" eg Jews and Christians, but also taxing them. Muslims are not to be so tolerant of non-believers, the Kaffers, are they? What is your opinion of that?

Today in the real world Muslims have pretty much driven Christians out of numerous places and countries in the Middle East.

I guess they have dare to do anything because they are going to blowup in the next moment.

Am I hearing good Muslims? Wah yeah that is what I am telling Muslims also same like others who fight against terrosirsm so not every muslim is terrorist.

AFAIK,Quran said if you are a muslim try to make others follow the right path by words or action,if you can't convince them then just leave them never told us to kill for doing bad things for that the punishment will be given from God.

Muslims not discriminated anywhere? This is just politics nothing related to religion.

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Quote from: akram143 on October 25, 2019, 10:32:25 AM

Quote from: Spendulus on October 24, 2019, 04:49:28 PM

Quote from: akram143 on October 24, 2019, 01:24:38 PM

Okay,just leave everything,did you ever been close with someone who is Muslim? ...

Yes.

Then how you are still alive,every Muslim supposed to kill non muslims right?

From the western point of view, a Muslim who walks into a cafe and blows himself up along with 100 innocent people of all types is a real coward. Those kinds of Muslims would not mess with me (or anyone who is very likely to shoot back, etc)

Again from the Western point of view, were I to be engaged in fighting world terrorism (I'm not) I would literally be surrounded on all sides by the "good Muslims" who were also fighting world terrorism.

Now, let's look at your assertion. every Muslim supposed to kill non muslims right?

That is not what your books say regarding action toward non muslims. It has various statements about protecting "people of the book" eg Jews and Christians, but also taxing them. Muslims are not to be so tolerant of non-believers, the Kaffers, are they? What is your opinion of that?

Today in the real world Muslims have pretty much driven Christians out of numerous places and countries in the Middle East.

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Quote from: Spendulus on October 24, 2019, 04:49:28 PM

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Okay,just leave everything,did you ever been close with someone who is Muslim? ...

Yes.

Then how you are still alive,every Muslim supposed to kill non muslims right?

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Quote from: tsaroz on October 22, 2019, 11:02:39 PM

Of the little knowledge of Islam I had, it was one of the progressive religion of it's time to start with.
Religion were made as a rule of conduct so that people would do the right things and be afraid to do wrongs. But subsequently it was used by rulers to enforce their power over the citizens. For that, they even misinterpreted the words and traditions to suit them. People revolted and we came up with laws to guide everything and also the religion.
But that didn't happened with Islam, rulers even enforce their rule with the rudimentary religious laws. Christianity was no better in the 17th century.

There are plenty of exceptions in Islam following people and countries. It's also the environment that influence people but still, Islam now is the largest group of brainwashed people in the world, They are obsessed with their god. In 21st century, almost all of people would agree that they'll go with what they feel right than what their religious leaders would say. Not with Islam, who still believes it's good for males to show their face while the females should cover their body.

That's a very realistic look at the situation, but I beg to differ in one respect. I think a careful look and comparison will easily show that in the 17th century, Christianity was far, far better than Islam today.

In other words, say at the middle of the Spanish Inquisition, I would argue that the actual practice of Christianity was superior to that of Islam today.

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Quote from: akram143 on October 24, 2019, 01:24:38 PM

Okay,just leave everything,did you ever been close with someone who is Muslim? ...

Yes.

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Quote from: akram143 on October 24, 2019, 01:24:38 PM

Okay,just leave everything,did you ever been close with someone who is Muslim? Most of the didn't or don't want.I had seen that western people even refuse to sit near Muslims then who is the sinner here?

Are you afraid that they will be a human bomb?

Hell,everyone is human,don't see every Muslim as terrorist.

yes that's what happened buddy. while Muslims themselves accept and consider themselves guests when meeting non-Muslims.

maybe he hates because Islam is synonymous with terrorism. even though in reality it is not true. ISIS problem?
try to learn more, the beginning of ISIS and why it happened. and everyone is provoked by the media so that heats up and hates it.

try to see the news that happened in new zealand, about the shooting of Muslims who are doing Friday prayers. honestly I saw the video directly, before the media deleted it.
and who is the culprit?
Is it Muslim?
and who is a savage?
where is peace?

so now there is nothing to debate, I just want to say "all the goals of religion are the same, namely to create peace and peace in the world".

Quote from: akram143 on October 24, 2019, 01:24:38 PM

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Hell,everyone is human,don't see every Muslim as terrorist.
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yeah friend, some of that is what I think.

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Okay,just leave everything,did you ever been close with someone who is Muslim? Most of the didn't or don't want.I had seen that western people even refuse to sit near Muslims then who is the sinner here?

Are you afraid that they will be a human bomb?

Hell,everyone is human,don't see every Muslim as terrorist.

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Quote from: akram143 on October 23, 2019, 03:35:00 AM

Quote from: Spendulus on October 22, 2019, 04:59:38 PM

Quote from: akram143 on October 22, 2019, 01:03:27 PM

....,I just want you to be open mind and see what is happening everywhere other than what you were told by media.

Please stop that particular assertion.

You have NO CLUE what random people on an international forum are told or from what source.

Some of us do not watch any television, for example.

Many are highly distrustful of what the media projects.

I will tell you though, that in most Middle Eastern countries, incoming news is highly filtered, and things you say or write are very much monitored...

I don't watch television either but what about internet media,the same thing happening.

Only middle east people are Muslim for most of the people here,but they were everywhere and each of them have different culture!

I'm going to have to agree with Spendulus here. If anything, this forum should be more diverse than many other outlets. Many people here are well informed and show a distrust for government (I mean why else would we all be in to blockchain)?

I have heavy doubt that the majority of users here listen to MSM nonsense. On that note, if anything, the MSM would be the ones defending Islam and promoting it as a peaceful religion.

People here seek out information where they see fit. I personally read ZeroHedge often. If you're getting your world news from CNN or similar outlets you almost deserve your own fate.

So the conclusions being drawn about Islam would come primarily from users forming their own opinion, from hundreds or thousands of sources. Not what we are being "told" to believe.

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Quote from: Spendulus on October 22, 2019, 04:59:38 PM

Quote from: akram143 on October 22, 2019, 01:03:27 PM

....,I just want you to be open mind and see what is happening everywhere other than what you were told by media.

Please stop that particular assertion.

You have NO CLUE what random people on an international forum are told or from what source.

Some of us do not watch any television, for example.

Many are highly distrustful of what the media projects.

I will tell you though, that in most Middle Eastern countries, incoming news is highly filtered, and things you say or write are very much monitored...

I don't watch television either but what about internet media,the same thing happening.

Only middle east people are Muslim for most of the people here,but they were everywhere and each of them have different culture!

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Of the little knowledge of Islam I had, it was one of the progressive religion of it's time to start with.
Religion were made as a rule of conduct so that people would do the right things and be afraid to do wrongs. But subsequently it was used by rulers to enforce their power over the citizens. For that, they even misinterpreted the words and traditions to suit them. People revolted and we came up with laws to guide everything and also the religion.
But that didn't happened with Islam, rulers even enforce their rule with the rudimentary religious laws. Christianity was no better in the 17th century.

There are plenty of exceptions in Islam following people and countries. It's also the environment that influence people but still, Islam now is the largest group of brainwashed people in the world, They are obsessed with their god. In 21st century, almost all of people would agree that they'll go with what they feel right than what their religious leaders would say. Not with Islam, who still believes it's good for males to show their face while the females should cover their body.

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Quote from: akram143 on October 22, 2019, 03:57:52 PM

Possibly no one actually know who(what) is God! Grin

I agree because even His picture which came from different religions still varies. There is a girl representation, an animal, a bearded man, a fat man and many more. But whatever or whoever he is, I strongly believe that there is a MIGHTY ONE, though He can't be perceived by our own senses.

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Quote from: akram143 on October 22, 2019, 01:03:27 PM

....,I just want you to be open mind and see what is happening everywhere other than what you were told by media.

Please stop that particular assertion.

You have NO CLUE what random people on an international forum are told or from what source.

Some of us do not watch any television, for example.

Many are highly distrustful of what the media projects.

I will tell you though, that in most Middle Eastern countries, incoming news is highly filtered, and things you say or write are very much monitored...

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Quote from: Judge-Dredd on October 22, 2019, 01:32:40 PM

It's all about the zealotry brotha. Many muslims practice willful ignorance to the horrific atrocities their brethren commit in the name of Islam. The same can be said for other religious institutions as well but moreso with Islam in the current politisphere.

Things to do to reduce hate:

- give women equal rights
- stop stoning or beating those women
- children should be treated well too
- stop abusing goats and other animals. This is savagery, not culture
- and the for the love of whatever god you believe in CEASE YOUR VIOLENT CONFLICTS BASED ON RELIGIOUS FERVOR

Why you feel women's don't have equal rights in Islam? I guess they have and when it comes to multiple marriage it is only allowed if the first or previous allows with full heart.

Men have the same punishment but its only practiced in Arab countries not everywhere.

Muslims kill children?

Every religion people eats meat! Roll Eyes

I love God and I didn't practice any violence.

You like an idea of 'God'. You don't know even know what 'God' is.

Possibly no one actually know who(what) is God! Grin

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Quote from: akram143 on October 22, 2019, 03:02:10 PM

Quote from: Judge-Dredd on October 22, 2019, 01:32:40 PM

It's all about the zealotry brotha. Many muslims practice willful ignorance to the horrific atrocities their brethren commit in the name of Islam. The same can be said for other religious institutions as well but moreso with Islam in the current politisphere.

Things to do to reduce hate:

- give women equal rights
- stop stoning or beating those women
- children should be treated well too
- stop abusing goats and other animals. This is savagery, not culture
- and the for the love of whatever god you believe in CEASE YOUR VIOLENT CONFLICTS BASED ON RELIGIOUS FERVOR

Why you feel women's don't have equal rights in Islam? I guess they have and when it comes to multiple marriage it is only allowed if the first or previous allows with full heart.

Men have the same punishment but its only practiced in Arab countries not everywhere.

Muslims kill children?

Every religion people eats meat! Roll Eyes

I love God and I didn't practice any violence.

You like an idea of 'God'. You don't know even know what 'God' is.

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Quote from: Judge-Dredd on October 22, 2019, 01:32:40 PM

It's all about the zealotry brotha. Many muslims practice willful ignorance to the horrific atrocities their brethren commit in the name of Islam. The same can be said for other religious institutions as well but moreso with Islam in the current politisphere.

Things to do to reduce hate:

- give women equal rights
- stop stoning or beating those women
- children should be treated well too
- stop abusing goats and other animals. This is savagery, not culture
- and the for the love of whatever god you believe in CEASE YOUR VIOLENT CONFLICTS BASED ON RELIGIOUS FERVOR

Why you feel women's don't have equal rights in Islam? I guess they have and when it comes to multiple marriage it is only allowed if the first or previous allows with full heart.

Men have the same punishment but its only practiced in Arab countries not everywhere.

Muslims kill children?

Every religion people eats meat! Roll Eyes

I love God and I didn't practice any violence.

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It's all about the zealotry brotha. Many muslims practice willful ignorance to the horrific atrocities their brethren commit in the name of Islam. The same can be said for other religious institutions as well but moreso with Islam in the current politisphere.

Things to do to reduce hate:

- give women equal rights
- stop stoning or beating those women
- children should be treated well too
- stop abusing goats and other animals. This is savagery, not culture
- and the for the love of whatever god you believe in CEASE YOUR VIOLENT CONFLICTS BASED ON RELIGIOUS FERVOR

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Quote from: zeto on October 22, 2019, 07:02:12 AM

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How can you deicde facebook profile information is real? You didn't knew that anyone can any amount of profile in facebook?

Lets see in this way,someone want to commit crime so they create fake fb profile and add fake muslim name.

You keep spouting excuses after excuses! Stop being defensive! You don't live in our country so stop acting like you know what is happening here!

So its about your country not about the religion? Because for every muslim there is only one Quran. I am not defensive,I just want you to be open mind and see what is happening everywhere other than what you were told by media.

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Indeed it is a pity. The concept of the 'light bearer', 'bringer of knowledge', etc, probably does have analogs in most other religions. The basic concepts are ubiquitous to be sure, and various flows of culture (e.g., Hollywood) peddle them in some form constantly. How honor was paid to such an entity as 'the Serpent' in the various socio-religious instances would be good for most inquisitive people to contemplate.

What we seem to have here is a situation where people realize that 'knowledge is power' and are not keen to share it so the 'secrets of the serpent' tend to go un-derground readily. There might be other reasons for the secrecy as well.

Nowadays the information is abundant, but each one connects to what resonates with themselves. The occult literature, forbidden in the past, has been available for a century. Blavatsky, Regardie, Crowley... you can find Kabbalistic groups on youtube or facebook. But most people choose the worst and most distorted things on the web, crazy conspiracy blogs... Grin

According to Judaism, there are soul levels, Nefesh, Ruach, Neshama... most people are in the first level - Nefesh, the animal level, the lower materialistic one, so they will look for things at this level of understanding. There are Religious and Atheists at this level. They spend a lot of time discussing and looking for "proofs" of scriptures, both ignoring their metaphoric, symbolic meanings. This knowledge is free, for those who are open to receive.

Even if it make me a 'animal' in the eyes of Talmudic Jews I'll happily stay right here at Nefesh level where it ain't cool to pop little kid's kundalini (aka, buttfuck them.) Must take a fair amount of 'enlightenment' to make that the thing to do. No thanks.

Speaking of Kabbalists, I do have to wonder when they say that Netanyahu used to "sleep in Jared's bed" when he stayed over at the Kushner residence whether that is code for something. I mean it's kind of hard to believe that the Kushner clan couldn't afford a house with a guest room.

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Quote from: zeto on October 22, 2019, 07:02:12 AM

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How can you deicde facebook profile information is real? You didn't knew that anyone can any amount of profile in facebook?

Lets see in this way,someone want to commit crime so they create fake fb profile and add fake muslim name.

You keep spouting excuses after excuses! Stop being defensive! You don't live in our country so stop acting like you know what is happening here!

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AFAIK,I never taught to klll anyone whether they are muslims or not,if we find sins we have to try to stop them if not at least hate them,thats it.

This is why my job here is to at least inform people of the atrocious inclination of your ridiculous religion and try to stop and continue to hate them.

It's well understood that certain sects of Islam preach violence, both toward westerners and muslims who do not believe in that sect's particular teachings. One might think of this as building on the basic violence in Islam, and carrying it about three steps further.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayyid_Qutb#Al-Qaeda_and_Islamic_Jihad

Three basic themes emerge from Qutb's writings. First, he claimed that the world was beset with barbarism, licentiousness, and unbelief (a condition he called jahiliyya, the religious term for the period of ignorance prior to the revelations given to the Prophet Mohammed). Qutb argued that humans can choose only between Islam and jahiliyya. Second, he warned that more people, including Muslims, were attracted to jahiliyya and its material comforts than to his view of Islam; jahiliyya could therefore triumph over Islam. Third, no middle ground exists in what Qutb conceived as a struggle between God and Satan. All Muslim – as he defined them – therefore must take up arms in this fight. Any Muslim who rejects his ideas is just one more nonbeliever worthy of destruction.[118]

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How can you deicde facebook profile information is real? You didn't knew that anyone can any amount of profile in facebook?

Lets see in this way,someone want to commit crime so they create fake fb profile and add fake muslim name.

You keep spouting excuses after excuses! Stop being defensive! You don't live in our country so stop acting like you know what is happening here!

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AFAIK,I never taught to klll anyone whether they are muslims or not,if we find sins we have to try to stop them if not at least hate them,thats it.

This is why my job here is to at least inform people of the atrocious inclination of your ridiculous religion and try to stop and continue to hate them.

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