Topic: What if Russia economy grows higher after the war (Read 681 times)
After the role of Russia vs Ukraine there was a significant increase in oil prices, Russia was one oil-producing country so they could control prices, when the Ukrainian invasion of course had taken accurate considerations including the economic impact, even I was sure Russia would not be too disturbed by the sanctions of the USA and Europe.
I think this will not give Russia anything, only new problems. Why take a country with a post-war crisis of even greater proportions. I think Russia will strengthen its economy with the recent news that its natural resources are being sold exclusively for rubles. This will really benefit Russia, and import substitution will also help due to the departure of many companies from Russia.
I think there is such a scenario. Everything will depend on the political situation. Of course, sanctions have a huge impact on the Russian economy. It will take a lot of time to restore it. I think the territory of Ukraine for Russia does not play a big role. It's more like a restless and dangerous neighbor. After the end of the war, these two states will need to establish a new life. And maybe they will be able to do it in the future.
Even if the US and the EU are incredibly powerful they are not the whole world, China is still the ally of Russia and Biden was going to have a meeting with the Chinese leader today to persuade them to their side, something in which he will fail, and if to this we add that suddenly there was a news that India was going to buy oil from Russia for a discount this show us that Russia will still have partners they can deal with, despite the economic sanctions being imposed to it.
As soon as the news from India came out, the crude oil prices crashed from $130 to less than $100, although it recovered to >$100 later. In the end, everyone cares about their own budget. Rising oil prices may not have a big impact within the US, because they produce most of the oil that is consumed within the country. But that is not the case with other countries such as China, India and Japan, who import most of what they consume. These countries are going to be impacted if the prices remain high for an extended duration and will be forced to buy crude from whomever willing to offer a discount.
Well if thenRussian economy gets bigger instead even with the sanctions then they really are more powerful. But definitely Putin will not.get all the credits because it must China that is much powerful and could buy up Russias products.
If any reason why Russia wont fall is because gradually countries are ditching USD. The sanction seem to trigger them to abandon the use of USD. Russia and Saudi news collaborate with this news which they wil be using Yuan.
Russia and Saudi are the two largest oil exporters in the world, if the recent news turns out to be true then the dollar will be dropped from the Petro-USD game instead of the Petro-Yuan then the Russian economy will become stronger than ever.If any reason why Russia wont fall is because gradually countries are ditching USD. The sanction seem to trigger them to abandon the use of USD. Russia and Saudi news collaborate with this news which they wil be using Yuan.
Saudi turned down Biden's offer last week but can the US and NATO let them do it?. If it happens, it will be a major blow to the dominance of the US government. The balance of the world will change.
Even if the US and the EU are incredibly powerful they are not the whole world, China is still the ally of Russia and Biden was going to have a meeting with the Chinese leader today to persuade them to their side, something in which he will fail, and if to this we add that suddenly there was a news that India was going to buy oil from Russia for a discount this show us that Russia will still have partners they can deal with, despite the economic sanctions being imposed to it.
As soon as the news from India came out, the crude oil prices crashed from $130 to less than $100, although it recovered to >$100 later. In the end, everyone cares about their own budget. Rising oil prices may not have a big impact within the US, because they produce most of the oil that is consumed within the country. But that is not the case with other countries such as China, India and Japan, who import most of what they consume. These countries are going to be impacted if the prices remain high for an extended duration and will be forced to buy crude from whomever willing to offer a discount.
What will happen if at the end Russia succeed in her conquest against Ukraine and take over the economy of Ukraine. That will extend the economic power of Russia no doubt and that will make Russia more powerful.
How will EU and NATO countries relate with Russia if that happens ?
How will EU and NATO countries relate with Russia if that happens ?
Who are the allies to be identified with Russia? As at now every businesses, companies and organizations were departing the country and no one has come out boldly to make a stand with Russia, meaning that all that Putin is doin is unethical and not tolerated by any culture or continent, it is believed to be an act of massacre, even the millitary that goes into war always have a plan of rescue of the innocent citizens, females and young ones.
I don't think it will be that possible. The economic sanctions given to Russia is way too strict for them to revive their economy. It will take a whole year for Russia to gone pass this terrible economic sanction. The whole Nato community is against them, they can only draw their strength from China and India to be able to revive their fallen economy.
Economic sanctions cannot stop the Russian-Ukrainian war. What can do is a diplomatic initiative brokered by a neutral party. Of the five world superpower nations, four (Russia, US, UK, and France) have already compromised their neutrality by officially taking sides in the conflict
Economic sanctions cannot stop the Russian-Ukrainian war. What can do is a diplomatic initiative brokered by a neutral party. Of the five world superpower nations, four (Russia, US, UK, and France) have already compromised their neutrality by officially taking sides in the conflict
I still wonder how Russia economy will still grow bigger with all the sanctions giving to them. The European countries no longer buy Russia gas, most countries are against russia, it is not possible for Russia economy to grow higher because they need other countries to to get good economy. Russia can't build their economy without engaging with other countries.
Is it conceivable to have a war that actually economically elevates a country? Yeah, maybe if you find a bunch of oil or gold. Unfortunately for the Russians, Ukraine has neither so the Russian economy will continue to tank. This is also within the context of their economy being atrocious to begin with. Putin couldn't afford a war, but presumably he could not afford Ukraine to join NATO either.
Seems clear they didn't expect the type of economic blowback they received either. The annexation of Crimea was met with little to no resistance and their economy did not crumble as a result. Appears now that major companies are pulling out their operations from Russia on top of the sanctions already in place. Russia is taking civilian causalities more seriously, certainly.
While without a doubt Russia expected to win this war under a week and now they are frustrated this is not the case I doubt that they are destroying the infrastructure out of anger, this is nothing more but another example of total war, in which the invader begins to destroy anything that may have some use for the opposite army with the hopes of demoralizing them and at the same time to cut short their supplies, this means Russia is taking more seriously the war and it is just one more indicator that tells us they are not going to back down on their decision to invade Ukraine.
Seems clear they didn't expect the type of economic blowback they received either. The annexation of Crimea was met with little to no resistance and their economy did not crumble as a result. Appears now that major companies are pulling out their operations from Russia on top of the sanctions already in place. Russia is taking civilian causalities more seriously, certainly.
It will be difficult for Russian to take over Ukraine economy to grow higher because others countries of the world will not allow such calamity to happen to Ukraine or any country of the world. Based on the new attacked Ukraine soldiers lunch on Russian economy, show that their economy will take like 3 or 4 years before their economy can grow higher as usual in the country. Ukraine government are ready to do everything possible with their power to protect what belong to them not to allow Russian to take over their resources and other things in the country.
I think the part that some of you are missing is that a country doesn’t just grow on its own, it is its dealings with other countries by exporting and importing that would help it to grow. I don’t know how they plan to build their economy after they have been sanctioned by a lot of countries around the world, and now it would be difficult for them to do business with any of them this time around.And you do know that if they should happen to win this war against Ukraine, the world would still be against them and the EU and the US would keep doing things in a way to tackle Russia as time goes on. I think right now it would be a perfect time for them to make peace instead of prolonging the war and making people to lose their lives.
I don't think it will be that possible. The economic sanctions given to Russia is way too strict for them to revive their economy. It will take a whole year for Russia to gone pass this terrible economic sanction. The whole Nato community is against them, they can only draw their strength from China and India to be able to revive their fallen economy.
Economic sanctions cannot stop the Russian-Ukrainian war. What can do is a diplomatic initiative brokered by a neutral party. Of the five world superpower nations, four (Russia, US, UK, and France) have already compromised their neutrality by officially taking sides in the conflict
Economic sanctions cannot stop the Russian-Ukrainian war. What can do is a diplomatic initiative brokered by a neutral party. Of the five world superpower nations, four (Russia, US, UK, and France) have already compromised their neutrality by officially taking sides in the conflict
It will be difficult to see Russia pick up after the war economically, nothing explaains that right. Most national allies will not come back immediately after the war, cause the proccess takes time. At the moment fund for other purposes will be allocated for war and the funding of the war at the moment will be odeprived. If the top valued coin like pounds and dollar refuse to trade for their coin, affecting the reserve of those coin, this could also disrupt the country plans in the nearest futture
Despite that anything is possible, I honestly don’t think that it would be that easy and the chances are like “zero” “nada”. Right now, Russia’s economy is crumbling because of the Western sanctions. The damage has been done in both economically and diplomatic relationships.
Yes we all know that the economy can be revived, but building and recovering will take a very, very, very long time.
Reminds me of a quote something like “It takes XX years to build reputation and trust, only to lost it in just less than 24 hours”. This is what Putin did to himself, and he paid a big price. Karma is gonna haunt him for the rest of his life.
People do not realize the lasting impacts of these type of sanctions. It already destroyed a big portion of their income, and Ruble worths a lot less because of it, the most devalued currency all of a sudden and I mean like more than Argentina and Venezuela and all that. Even Zimbabwe lost less value than Ruble during this period.Yes we all know that the economy can be revived, but building and recovering will take a very, very, very long time.
Reminds me of a quote something like “It takes XX years to build reputation and trust, only to lost it in just less than 24 hours”. This is what Putin did to himself, and he paid a big price. Karma is gonna haunt him for the rest of his life.
So it already hurt, but the longer it goes, the more it is hurting them and there is no way that they could just recover and be better right after the sanctions are lifted off neither. It would have a good impact at first but those deals need to be restrict again. All of this results with maybe years of terrible economy for them already guaranteed today, gets worse every day it goes on.
Russia's economy has been tested when they faced difficult times at the beginning of the split of the Soviet Union, at that time there was a war for many years but economic conditions were still good, and now Russia's invasion of Ukraine has certainly done a lot of analysis including short-term and long-term economic effects.
Well if thenRussian economy gets bigger instead even with the sanctions then they really are more powerful. But definitely Putin will not.get all the credits because it must China that is much powerful and could buy up Russias products.
If any reason why Russia wont fall is because gradually countries are ditching USD. The sanction seem to trigger them to abandon the use of USD. Russia and Saudi news collaborate with this news which they wil be using Yuan.
If any reason why Russia wont fall is because gradually countries are ditching USD. The sanction seem to trigger them to abandon the use of USD. Russia and Saudi news collaborate with this news which they wil be using Yuan.
What will happen if at the end Russia succeed in her conquest against Ukraine and take over the economy of Ukraine. That will extend the economic power of Russia no doubt and that will make Russia more powerful.
How will EU and NATO countries relate with Russia if that happens ?
How will EU and NATO countries relate with Russia if that happens ?
Despite that anything is possible, I honestly don’t think that it would be that easy and the chances are like “zero” “nada”. Right now, Russia’s economy is crumbling because of the Western sanctions. The damage has been done in both economically and diplomatic relationships.
Yes we all know that the economy can be revived, but building and recovering will take a very, very, very long time.
Reminds me of a quote something like “It takes XX years to build reputation and trust, only to lost it in just less than 24 hours”. This is what Putin did to himself, and he paid a big price. Karma is gonna haunt him for the rest of his life.
It will be difficult for Russian to take over Ukraine economy to grow higher because others countries of the world will not allow such calamity to happen to Ukraine or any country of the world. Based on the new attacked Ukraine soldiers lunch on Russian economy, show that their economy will take like 3 or 4 years before their economy can grow higher as usual in the country. Ukraine government are ready to do everything possible with their power to protect what belong to them not to allow Russian to take over their resources and other things in the country.
I think the part that some of you are missing is that a country doesn’t just grow on its own, it is its dealings with other countries by exporting and importing that would help it to grow. I don’t know how they plan to build their economy after they have been sanctioned by a lot of countries around the world, and now it would be difficult for them to do business with any of them this time around.And you do know that if they should happen to win this war against Ukraine, the world would still be against them and the EU and the US would keep doing things in a way to tackle Russia as time goes on. I think right now it would be a perfect time for them to make peace instead of prolonging the war and making people to lose their lives.
What will happen if at the end Russia succeed in her conquest against Ukraine and take over the economy of Ukraine. That will extend the economic power of Russia no doubt and that will make Russia more powerful.
How will EU and NATO countries relate with Russia if that happens ?
It will be very difficult for Russia’s economy to get back on its feet.How will EU and NATO countries relate with Russia if that happens ?
Their economy has crumbled so much and the extent that it has gotten to now would make it difficult for it to be able to recover easily. Though that’s not to say that it can’t be recovered, it is possible if they should work hard towards that and do the necessary things that they are meant to do, but even at that it is going to be a process that would take years for it to happen.
It is easy to send an economy crashing, but building it is something that would be a long process. And you have to know that even if they should win this war, they have already sabotaged their relationship with the EU and that would affect them with all the sanctions that has also been imposed on them.
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I would guess that Russia never really lost the fearful respect that they got. At the end of the day it is Russia and they have so much nuclear power that they could destroy any nation they want. And between Afghanistan and Syria, they were also directly involved with wars as well and somehow people only cared when it was Ukraine.I mean what they are doing right now to Ukraine, they have been doing that for a long time in Syria as well and still doing it today, they are bombing and killing people who they see as danger, with the "given rights" by their dictator in charge right now. Which is why I believe that Russia always got that, they just got it bigger now that the place they are attacking borders Europe.
What will happen if at the end Russia succeed in her conquest against Ukraine and take over the economy of Ukraine. That will extend the economic power of Russia no doubt and that will make Russia more powerful.
How will EU and NATO countries relate with Russia if that happens ?
How will EU and NATO countries relate with Russia if that happens ?
Who are the allies to be identified with Russia? As at now every businesses, companies and organizations were departing the country and no one has come out boldly to make a stand with Russia, meaning that all that Putin is doin is unethical and not tolerated by any culture or continent, it is believed to be an act of massacre, even the millitary that goes into war always have a plan of rescue of the innocent citizens, females and young ones.
On the other hand, the imposed sanctions will work and continue to have a devastating effect on the Russian economy, even if they are lifted in the near future. Therefore, soon Russia will become a poor state, if it still retains its territory, which I deeply doubt.
Here's some thing.
Ukraine war latest: Russia imposes sanctions on Biden and Blinken
https://www.ft.com/content/e3d7f22d-d858-44c0-a86e-6909a6eab266
Seems like they are really doing this too far.
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