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Quote from: krishnaverma on August 27, 2023, 10:21:53 PM

What if there is no crypto bull run for next 10 years ? Will you give up all your investments and get out of crypto because of this ? Or do you you have even more broader horizon and can wait longer to see the next bull run ?

Purely depends on the market sentiments. As of now, there's no way a bullrun will not happen in the next 10 years, judging alone how hype the people are in crypto on the upcoming bitcoin halving. We've seen a lot of companies and small merchants and service providers who gradually accepts bitcoin, so it is already expected that bitcoin will continue to gain more and more popularity as well as the adoption.
Therefore, we should not be worried about this hypothetical question as it's still far from happening.

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Quote from: krishnaverma on August 27, 2023, 10:21:53 PM

What if there is no crypto bull run for next 10 years ? Will you give up all your investments and get out of crypto because of this ? Or do you you have even more broader horizon and can wait longer to see the next bull run ?
Personally, I am very much positive with bitcoin future but we should also be prepared for all situations.

If you are positive about Bitcoin's future, then you should be optimistic about the BTC bull run, this is how you will be earning some profits. As far as the bull run in the coming years is concerned, there will be a bull run in the coming year or two because the stock/ crypto market will not survive without it. If there is no bull run in the stock/ crypto market, the market will stand still and not grow. To make people interested, these fluctuations in the market are bound to happen.

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Nothing can be guarantee in present times and we must also be prepared for worst situations.

If you want to prepare for the worst possible situation, I suggest you invest some of your capital in offline business and have some liquid cash. This way, you will survive the worst situation.

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Quote from: TheSpiral on September 12, 2023, 06:17:47 AM

People are stucked only to investment and trading which shows that they have no idea about other beneficial aspects of crypto. One who wish to get profit regularly research on such projects which provides them profit.

Such as? There's no such thing as a free lunch. Every earning opportunity comes at a risk. If you're referring to "genius" ideas like crypto-staking, most of the high-yield "projects" is just about creating more tokens, diluting the value of your holding, and kindly giving you some of it back by duping you into thinking that's a "profit".
Almost all of them get crashed way harder than Bitcoin during the bear market.

Yes, most of them crash 95% to 99% from their all-time high, and 99% of them have no chance to regain that ATH. These altcoins attracted investors by showing how cool their tokenomics are and that no matter what year they are offering, their token price will not fall much. On the contrary, the team dumped their token and claimed that rouge team members had done this. Most of those failed projects have these types of stories.

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Firstly I’d like to say the chances of no bitcoin bull run for the next 10 years are tiny and I mean ridiculously small.
With the way traditional fiat banking is going and the way governments are printing money like it’s going out of fashion, bitcoin is one of the only investments that make sense.

OK, so to answer this hypothetical question, if there was no bull run for 10 years I would continue to HODL what I have and actually stack more because bitcoin is going to hoover up capital. It might not be today or tomorrow but bitcoin is going to hoover up a sizeable % of capital. The price is going to go parabolic, I’m talking to six and then 7 figures ($) per coin within 15 years.

With Spot ETF’s looking close due to Blackrock, Fidelity and others getting involved you can either buy bitcoin or Have Fun Staying Poor.

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Quote from: savetheFORUM on September 14, 2023, 03:11:19 AM

It's true that the adoption will become much slower than how it is right now because as an investor one would obviously expect the market to go up and every investor tends to do some research before they make their investments and if they see not enough movements in the market, they will probably think that they should invest their money into something else so that they can get some profits in a few years which isn't possible with cryptocurrencies if there is no bull run at all.

It also doesn't sound possible because of how the market actually works. The prices of cryptocurrencies go up and down based on their demand and supply and when more people get interested in buying an asset, those who are already in possession of it will surely ask for a higher price for selling it.

Also, the more people we have, the harder it will get to get new customers as well. I mean if you have everyone involved already, it would be hard to convince the last people, they waited that long, they may have a solid reason that we can't change. So, the long time we spend with this adoption rate, the harder it gets to convince others and we should be careful about it.

I personally do agree that it is going to have some trouble here and there, but we could definitely have some changes. I believe that we are going to have some issues on the long run, and for that we need to figure out a way other than "if you buy bitcoin, it will go up in the future" type of convincing, we need something bigger than that to grow.

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Quote from: krishnaverma on August 27, 2023, 10:21:53 PM

What if there is no crypto bull run for next 10 years ? Will you give up all your investments and get out of crypto because of this ? Or do you you have even more broader horizon and can wait longer to see the next bull run ?

I have made savings in my bank account for more than 10 years and received no interest as profit for such long years over a decade nevertheless I didn't abandon the account and left the bank.

And here's bitcoin giving me complete control over my money, no bottleneck procedures before I can make transactions and access to my funds at anytime. It's only when your knowledge about the uses of bitcoin is limited just to bullrun profit that you get worrisome and panicking.

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Personally, I am very much positive with bitcoin future but we should also be prepared for all situations. Nothing can be guarantee in present times and we must also be prepared for worst situations.

A bullrun stalling is not and can't be regarded as a worst situation to me. That the bitcoin network is still intact and running a bullrun is a secondary case of attention .

Op have you thought about the bitcoin 21M Cap. When bitcoin gets to the 21M Cap doesn't that mean you will give up and get out your investment?

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Quote from: savetheFORUM on September 14, 2023, 03:11:19 AM

Quote from: irhact on September 12, 2023, 02:23:13 AM

There is nothing bad but it'll affect the industry growth negatively because it'll slow down development in the industry. Bull market is one important reason why development in the industry advance as project make so much money during this time that they can hire developers and pay them very well to work on their projects to improve it and adopt other technologies. When investors see this development in this projects they get interested in investing in the project.

But when there's no bull market for a very long time, it means the trading volume will be reducing and this would make some exchanges to run out of business and there won't be more exchange options for projects to get listed on, also investment in projects will reduce.

It's true that the adoption will become much slower than how it is right now because as an investor one would obviously expect the market to go up and every investor tends to do some research before they make their investments and if they see not enough movements in the market, they will probably think that they should invest their money into something else so that they can get some profits in a few years which isn't possible with cryptocurrencies if there is no bull run at all.

It also doesn't sound possible because of how the market actually works. The prices of cryptocurrencies go up and down based on their demand and supply and when more people get interested in buying an asset, those who are already in possession of it will surely ask for a higher price for selling it.

We arent just talking about the probabilities that we do have now specially if it did really happen on this upcoming bull run if there would be no such thing then hesitance and doubts would really becoming even more

stronger on which losing up trust and confidence within this market on investors perspective would become weaker and lesser on which means that they would really be just simply waiting and looking for other markets on which they could really be able to play or invest with without the need on waiting up for too long.It is really just that it would really be entirely be depending on how this market would really be
looking at on this long anticipated bull run whether it would really be giving out that such impact or less. People or investors views would really be totally share up on the same perception but there are
ones who would really be still remaining no matter what.

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Quote from: savetheFORUM on September 14, 2023, 03:11:19 AM

It's true that the adoption will become much slower than how it is right now

I'm not sure if there's any correlation between the increase in price and Bitcoin adoption (defined as using BTC for things other than trading). In fact, when it goes up, there's more incentive to hold it rather than spend it, therefore the adoption might actually drop.

Quote from: savetheFORUM on September 14, 2023, 03:11:19 AM

It also doesn't sound possible because of how the market actually works. The prices of cryptocurrencies go up and down based on their demand and supply and when more people get interested in buying an asset, those who are already in possession of it will surely ask for a higher price for selling it.

You said it yourself - price goes up when the demand exceeds supply. But it's perfectly possible that the demand could be low and the price will be dropping, so not sure why would you consider such scenario as impossible.

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Quote from: irhact on September 12, 2023, 02:23:13 AM

There is nothing bad but it'll affect the industry growth negatively because it'll slow down development in the industry. Bull market is one important reason why development in the industry advance as project make so much money during this time that they can hire developers and pay them very well to work on their projects to improve it and adopt other technologies. When investors see this development in this projects they get interested in investing in the project.

But when there's no bull market for a very long time, it means the trading volume will be reducing and this would make some exchanges to run out of business and there won't be more exchange options for projects to get listed on, also investment in projects will reduce.

It's true that the adoption will become much slower than how it is right now because as an investor one would obviously expect the market to go up and every investor tends to do some research before they make their investments and if they see not enough movements in the market, they will probably think that they should invest their money into something else so that they can get some profits in a few years which isn't possible with cryptocurrencies if there is no bull run at all.

It also doesn't sound possible because of how the market actually works. The prices of cryptocurrencies go up and down based on their demand and supply and when more people get interested in buying an asset, those who are already in possession of it will surely ask for a higher price for selling it.

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Quote from: TheSpiral on September 12, 2023, 06:17:47 AM

People are stucked only to investment and trading which shows that they have no idea about other beneficial aspects of crypto. One who wish to get profit regularly research on such projects which provides them profit.

Such as? There's no such thing as a free lunch. Every earning opportunity comes at a risk. If you're referring to "genius" ideas like crypto-staking, most of the high-yield "projects" is just about creating more tokens, diluting the value of your holding, and kindly giving you some of it back by duping you into thinking that's a "profit".
Almost all of them get crashed way harder than Bitcoin during the bear market.

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Quote from: bakasabo on September 08, 2023, 03:57:27 AM

I see nothing bad if we did not have crypto bull for next 5 or 10 years, as there are plenty of ways to earn on crypto market. Imo, the strategy of just long term investment still works well, and 5-10 years is a good period of long term investment. As well as the are no quick money in crypto anymore. Strategy of buying low, waiting for few months and sell with huge profit does not work anymore. It is either searching for gem, making deep analysis in case of long term investment or knows how to trade and speculate.

People are stucked only to investment and trading which shows that they have no idea about other beneficial aspects of crypto. One who wish to get profit regularly research on such projects which provides them profit.

They only are involved in trading because of the desire for more and quick earning but I will discuss one main point that if other projects of crypto are giving you little sum so one benefit is also there that this little sum is sure and no doubt exists in its worthiness.

So would you not like the earning in a form of fixed dollars? Learn to accept the risk free way of earning instead of risky huge and quick money.

It depends on the level of experience and exposure of the person to the investment world. Someone like me can't commit my coin anymore in the hands of coin banks, staking and other investments of the kind, I would rather trade or invest it. But for those who are comfortable or do not have prior knowledge about the subject matter, they might wisely start with a safe investment, but nothing is riskless, they have to be careful of the kind of investment they commit their money to. It's not everything we can be confident of when we invest in cryptocurrency.

But still, I will personally continue to advise people to learn how to trade and invest their cryptocurrency directly, there is nothing as promising and profitable than you being your own manager. When staking will be promising less than 8% at times, you might have made 10 times of it the same year.

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Quote from: krishnaverma on August 27, 2023, 10:21:53 PM

What if there is no crypto bull run for next 10 years ? Will you give up all your investments and get out of crypto because of this ? Or do you you have even more broader horizon and can wait longer to see the next bull run ?

Personally, I am very much positive with bitcoin future but we should also be prepared for all situations. Nothing can be guarantee in present times and we must also be prepared for worst situations.

If you are a hodler I think you have nothing to worry about but if you are buying and selling that could be a long long wait.

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Quote from: bakasabo on September 08, 2023, 03:57:27 AM

I see nothing bad if we did not have crypto bull for next 5 or 10 years, as there are plenty of ways to earn on crypto market. Imo, the strategy of just long term investment still works well, and 5-10 years is a good period of long term investment. As well as the are no quick money in crypto anymore. Strategy of buying low, waiting for few months and sell with huge profit does not work anymore. It is either searching for gem, making deep analysis in case of long term investment or knows how to trade and speculate.

People are stucked only to investment and trading which shows that they have no idea about other beneficial aspects of crypto. One who wish to get profit regularly research on such projects which provides them profit.

They only are involved in trading because of the desire for more and quick earning but I will discuss one main point that if other projects of crypto are giving you little sum so one benefit is also there that this little sum is sure and no doubt exists in its worthiness.

So would you not like the earning in a form of fixed dollars? Learn to accept the risk free way of earning instead of risky huge and quick money.

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Quote from: krishnaverma on August 27, 2023, 10:21:53 PM

What if there is no crypto bull run for next 10 years ? Will you give up all your investments and get out of crypto because of this ? Or do you you have even more broader horizon and can wait longer to see the next bull run ?

i may consider that? for at least couple of years to try investing in other form of business since 10 years is really a long waiting time.
but that is if we will gping to find when it will come because if not? sorry but i will maintain my bitcoin holding instead.

That is just a bad idea to think that bitcoin will not have it, and I think we should not prepare for something like that, let others who believe that could happen get ready for potentially living something like that but it is not realistic. We should aim at something that is much better and we should be careful about what we are doing, it will definitely end up a lot better without a doubt.

I hope that it gets to a point where people can see that holding bitcoin long term is a great way to make money and those who do not do that will end up with some losses and they will not have a reasonable approach to it as well. I get that it is going to take some time to have these results but as long as we wait, it will happen.

Im just being reasonable mate, and ready to whatever comes in crypto because we are not here to just speculate but to be ready for everything mate.
i am always here but also willing to change or divert if find out how it is not worth trusting specially in 1 or 2 halving season.
that means there is something wrong and yes are not that best for our interest.

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Quote from: bakasabo on September 08, 2023, 03:57:27 AM

I see nothing bad if we did not have crypto bull for next 5 or 10 years, as there are plenty of ways to earn on crypto market. Imo, the strategy of just long term investment still works well, and 5-10 years is a good period of long term investment. As well as the are no quick money in crypto anymore. Strategy of buying low, waiting for few months and sell with huge profit does not work anymore. It is either searching for gem, making deep analysis in case of long term investment or knows how to trade and speculate.

There is nothing bad but it'll affect the industry growth negatively because it'll slow down development in the industry. Bull market is one important reason why development in the industry advance as project make so much money during this time that they can hire developers and pay them very well to work on their projects to improve it and adopt other technologies. When investors see this development in this projects they get interested in investing in the project.

But when there's no bull market for a very long time, it means the trading volume will be reducing and this would make some exchanges to run out of business and there won't be more exchange options for projects to get listed on, also investment in projects will reduce.

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Quote from: krishnaverma on August 27, 2023, 10:21:53 PM

What if there is no crypto bull run for next 10 years ? Will you give up all your investments and get out of crypto because of this ? Or do you you have even more broader horizon and can wait longer to see the next bull run ?

i may consider that? for at least couple of years to try investing in other form of business since 10 years is really a long waiting time.
but that is if we will gping to find when it will come because if not? sorry but i will maintain my bitcoin holding instead.

That is just a bad idea to think that bitcoin will not have it, and I think we should not prepare for something like that, let others who believe that could happen get ready for potentially living something like that but it is not realistic. We should aim at something that is much better and we should be careful about what we are doing, it will definitely end up a lot better without a doubt.

I hope that it gets to a point where people can see that holding bitcoin long term is a great way to make money and those who do not do that will end up with some losses and they will not have a reasonable approach to it as well. I get that it is going to take some time to have these results but as long as we wait, it will happen.

There is risk in every investment. There is a possibility that this could happen for Bitcoin, but I think it is very unlikely. I would ignore this small probability and say that Bitcoin will follow an upward trend in its own cycles. This is my own opinion. It's based on the fact that it's happened before and that every bear season this kind of idea comes up.

An investor also takes a risk. For some this risk may be different from what you say and for others it may be what you say. If you believe in something, you should continue investing. As someone who believes in Bitcoin, I don't believe in these things and I invest.

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Quote from: krishnaverma on August 27, 2023, 10:21:53 PM

What if there is no crypto bull run for next 10 years ? Will you give up all your investments and get out of crypto because of this ? Or do you you have even more broader horizon and can wait longer to see the next bull run ?

i may consider that? for at least couple of years to try investing in other form of business since 10 years is really a long waiting time.
but that is if we will gping to find when it will come because if not? sorry but i will maintain my bitcoin holding instead.

That is just a bad idea to think that bitcoin will not have it, and I think we should not prepare for something like that, let others who believe that could happen get ready for potentially living something like that but it is not realistic. We should aim at something that is much better and we should be careful about what we are doing, it will definitely end up a lot better without a doubt.

I hope that it gets to a point where people can see that holding bitcoin long term is a great way to make money and those who do not do that will end up with some losses and they will not have a reasonable approach to it as well. I get that it is going to take some time to have these results but as long as we wait, it will happen.

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Quote from: dezoel on September 08, 2023, 08:00:20 AM

This type of thinking would lead someone to sell, and panic selling is the reason why we keep going down. We need to find a way to make sure that people feel a lot at ease about holding bitcoin, if they keep fearing it then we are not going to end up with a good result in the end at all.

We should be considering the situation to be a lot different and we need to end up with a good thing that would make sure that it gets to a point where we could potentially end up with a good return. I am not saying that it should be important one way or another, but at the very least we need to make sure that it does well enough. This is of course only possible if we could make sure that the price goes up and a lot of people see it will do well.

This is the reason why there are people who do not get in as well, and that causes not going up. As much as someone who would sell if they are thinking like this, we could also end up with something that would be different and the results could be not going up, because there could be some people who sell, but there will definitely some people who will decide not to buy yet with the fear that there will not be any increases, and that's the hardest thing about this, I do not think that we are not going to end up with that much at the moment.

I think it is quite good and important to see it that it is going to have some changes and the result will not be the same and life is not going to be the same at all if you think about it.

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Have you ever thought about Bitcoin as a way of saving your money against inflation? If you have, then you will understand the reason many smart guys are ditching fiat for Bitcoin. For the past ten years my country's currency has lost more than 1000% of it's value whereas Bitcoin has gained over 2000% of its value. This shows the beauty and advantage of Bitcoin over fiat.

If you have a futuristic mindset towards Bitcoin, you will rarely be perturbed by the little drops in price because the recovery will always come and it will be rapid. So bullrun or not, those who understand the power of Bitcoin will always remain resolute.

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Quote from: krishnaverma on August 27, 2023, 10:21:53 PM

What if there is no crypto bull run for next 10 years ? Will you give up all your investments and get out of crypto because of this ? Or do you you have even more broader horizon and can wait longer to see the next bull run ?

Personally, I am very much positive with bitcoin future but we should also be prepared for all situations. Nothing can be guarantee in present times and we must also be prepared for worst situations.

Investors who invest in longrun doesn't care after bullrun or not because they have a target, therefore if a bullrun will not reflect in next year that doesn't mean that investors will fade up, except its the new investors who does not know the rudiments of cryptocurrency will determine or will be angry of the bullrun, but whosoever that is into cryptocurrency investment doesn't be afraid of bearish season and bullrun because both of them have advantages to investors, is either investors benefit during bullrun or investors benefit during bearish where they purchase a large quantity of coin and invest.

Somehow that might be the case for people trading since maybe they are not actually into that if they know no big event like that will come and their activities will continue. Even if no bull run will happen still many investors would provably love to do day trade since this is still profitable to them. People can get with it since investment on crypto is not only about on bull run is coming or not there's a wide opportunity for this and provably people will find to many way to trade bitcoin then earn some good profits even if the movement is small.

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