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Quote from: krishnaverma on August 27, 2023, 11:21:53 PM

What if there is no crypto bull run for next 10 years ? Will you give up all your investments and get out of crypto because of this ? Or do you you have even more broader horizon and can wait longer to see the next bull run ?

Personally, I am very much positive with bitcoin future but we should also be prepared for all situations. Nothing can be guarantee in present times and we must also be prepared for worst situations.

Investors who invest in longrun doesn't care after bullrun or not because they have a target, therefore if a bullrun will not reflect in next year that doesn't mean that investors will fade up, except its the new investors who does not know the rudiments of cryptocurrency will determine or will be angry of the bullrun, but whosoever that is into cryptocurrency investment doesn't be afraid of bearish season and bullrun because both of them have advantages to investors, is either investors benefit during bullrun or investors benefit during bearish where they purchase a large quantity of coin and invest.

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Quote from: krishnaverma on August 27, 2023, 11:21:53 PM

What if there is no crypto bull run for next 10 years ? Will you give up all your investments and get out of crypto because of this ? Or do you you have even more broader horizon and can wait longer to see the next bull run ?

i may consider that? for at least couple of years to try investing in other form of business since 10 years is really a long waiting time.
but that is if we will gping to find when it will come because if not? sorry but i will maintain my bitcoin holding instead.

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Personally, I am very much positive with bitcoin future but we should also be prepared for all situations. Nothing can be guarantee in present times and we must also be prepared for worst situations.

but also sorry because no one knows if there will ever a chance of this stagnant market to last 10 years, because mostly there is a 4 year cycle
and without one I think people will be alarmed and decide sideways.

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If there is no bull run, many people will then leave crypto. But for me, I'd rather stay because as long as the market remains volatile, we still have the chance to earn a profit. In fact, it was not the Bullrun is the reason why I'm here joining the crypto world but just to have it for payment purposes. It was just to happen that there is Bullrun which brings too much traction to the community but even without this thing, I still believe that crypto remains active.

But this is what I see, less volatile more adoption.

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Quote from: CageMabok on September 08, 2023, 11:16:00 AM

Most investors who often do DCA will not do Hodling in the long term, because some of them are also looking for short-term profits, although on the one hand they also don't forget about long-term profits. This is due to the importance of taking advantage of every available moment in order to achieve good profits so that it is not uncommon for investors to be able to become traders within a certain time while becoming investors.

The number of people going for both and trying to become traders and investors is very low, as not only the capital needed for this will increase, but now you will need to master two disciplines, and while both are concentrated on making money they are completely different on their methods.

So if someone is looking to perform a DCA strategy they need to think on doing this for the long term to have any significant effect on their finances, otherwise they are just wasting their time and should use a trading strategy instead.

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I just noticed something in the title, if you understand the topic, it sounds like a threat to other holders of Bitcoin or other crypto communities. I just don't know if others here have noticed this as well. But for those who already have a deep understanding of Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies, it has no effect.

Instead of focusing on it, it is better to just continue the work started here in the crypto business. And this is exactly what it should be. And besides, it's not just in the bull run that the other whale investors here, even the other common traders, are still making a profit even though we are in a downtrend or bearish season.

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Quote from: CageMabok on September 08, 2023, 11:16:00 AM

Most investors who often do DCA will not do Hodling in the long term, because some of them are also looking for short-term profits, although on the one hand they also don't forget about long-term profits.

DCA is by definition a long-term strategy and it's a bit pointless if you're aiming at short-term gains. So, unless you're using terms "long" and "short" very loosely, we should expect all DCAers to hold for over a year or more, unless the bull-run comes early and they decide it's a right time to cash out.

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Quote from: Gozie51 on September 08, 2023, 09:51:56 AM

Hodling will not be of interest to many investors who DCA for within two years and four years waiting for the halving circle. If bull run seize, it will affect the market but only those who know how to trade will enjoy the season because the fluctuations will still be there and they make profit from it. On a larger scale, I think there will be scam alot because many vices will be introduced on how to earn with bitcoin and we know where there is twelve, one will take the Judas role, so scam is likely to be on the increase with in the name of bitcoin. People will also try to learn trading but that is not easy to do and losses will increase.

Most investors who often do DCA will not do Hodling in the long term, because some of them are also looking for short-term profits, although on the one hand they also don't forget about long-term profits. This is due to the importance of taking advantage of every available moment in order to achieve good profits so that it is not uncommon for investors to be able to become traders within a certain time while becoming investors. And as for crimes that could possibly happen, I still haven't thought about it now because things related to fraud have indeed happened very often in the past in the name of Bitcoin.

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Quote from: bakasabo on September 08, 2023, 04:57:27 AM

I see nothing bad if we did not have crypto bull for next 5 or 10 years, as there are plenty of ways to earn on crypto market. Imo, the strategy of just long term investment still works well, and 5-10 years is a good period of long term investment. As well as the are no quick money in crypto anymore. Strategy of buying low, waiting for few months and sell with huge profit does not work anymore. It is either searching for gem, making deep analysis in case of long term investment or knows how to trade and speculate.

Hodling will not be of interest to many investors who DCA for within two years and four years waiting for the halving circle. If bull run seize, it will affect the market but only those who know how to trade will enjoy the season because the fluctuations will still be there and they make profit from it. On a larger scale, I think there will be scam alot because many vices will be introduced on how to earn with bitcoin and we know where there is twelve, one will take the Judas role, so scam is likely to be on the increase with in the name of bitcoin. People will also try to learn trading but that is not easy to do and losses will increase.

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This type of thinking would lead someone to sell, and panic selling is the reason why we keep going down. We need to find a way to make sure that people feel a lot at ease about holding bitcoin, if they keep fearing it then we are not going to end up with a good result in the end at all.

We should be considering the situation to be a lot different and we need to end up with a good thing that would make sure that it gets to a point where we could potentially end up with a good return. I am not saying that it should be important one way or another, but at the very least we need to make sure that it does well enough. This is of course only possible if we could make sure that the price goes up and a lot of people see it will do well.

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I see nothing bad if we did not have crypto bull for next 5 or 10 years, as there are plenty of ways to earn on crypto market. Imo, the strategy of just long term investment still works well, and 5-10 years is a good period of long term investment. As well as the are no quick money in crypto anymore. Strategy of buying low, waiting for few months and sell with huge profit does not work anymore. It is either searching for gem, making deep analysis in case of long term investment or knows how to trade and speculate.

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Quote from: krishnaverma on August 27, 2023, 11:21:53 PM

What if there is no crypto bull run for next 10 years ? Will you give up all your investments and get out of crypto because of this ? Or do you you have even more broader horizon and can wait longer to see the next bull run ?

At first, i'm using my Bitcoin to send money to my loved ones abroad. It serves as my alternative to remittance since the fee is low and the transaction is fast without the need to go outside. I first know Bitcoin (or crypto in general) not as an investment but a way to send money without a third party.

When I discovered the price fluctuation that's how I became interested to invest in it. That being said, even there's no bull run for the next 10 years, it's not a reason to pull out what I invested. Because there's still a reason for me to continue holding my Bitcoin. Nevertheless, it's not realistic for this situation to happen.

Well, you are a rare case that I know as most people who know bitcoin are attracted by its volatility, myself included. I learned about bitcoin through highly profitable ponzi projects, and it wasn't until later that I discovered that bitcoin could be used for cross-border money transfers.

If bitcoin becomes stable, people will still use it as a method of payment, a store of value. But it will definitely lose a significant amount of users, because I believe the volatility of bitcoin is what people care about. We can also easily see today, bitcoins are being circulated on exchanges to generate profits rather than being used to pay bills.

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Quote from: Rabata on September 08, 2023, 01:31:41 AM

As the world's population is increasing and everything is on the upswing, it would be foolish to expect Bitcoin to stabilize with in this long period. But still it must be emphasized that before investing one must do caution and long term planning especially till an investor can reach his desired goal.

As the world population is increasing so is the awareness of bitcoin also increasing and this will lead to more individuals been interesting in investing in Bitcoin. For Bitcoin not to have a bull market for the next ten years it means for the next two halving cycle, it won't have any effects on Bitcoin price and that's impossible because halving of Bitcoin is a mechanism that reduces the supply of Bitcoin entering the market by miners and there's no way a reduction in quantity entering the market won't affect the price.

The cryptocurency market has a reputation for it's high volatility and the bull market is responsible for that high volatility. Bull markets comes because of the influence of halving. More investors fomo into Bitcoin and this affect other crypto as they also get invested into.

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Quote from: krishnaverma on August 27, 2023, 11:21:53 PM

What if there is no crypto bull run for next 10 years ? Will you give up all your investments and get out of crypto because of this ? Or do you you have even more broader horizon and can wait longer to see the next bull run ?

Personally, I am very much positive with bitcoin future but we should also be prepared for all situations. Nothing can be guarantee in present times and we must also be prepared for worst situations.

Cryptocurrencies are not only for quick profit, in fact, if there is no profit within a certain period of time, there is nothing to do but follow the market as it should move. Although you are referring to a time period of 10 years , I would say to take a good look at the history of Bitcoin. Where did Bitcoin rise in 2009 after it was discovered and where it could go in the next 10 years? As the world's population is increasing and everything is on the upswing, it would be foolish to expect Bitcoin to stabilize with in this long period. But still it must be emphasized that before investing one must do caution and long term planning especially till an investor can reach his desired goal.

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Quote from: lienfaye on September 06, 2023, 10:29:15 PM

Quote from: krishnaverma on August 27, 2023, 11:21:53 PM

What if there is no crypto bull run for next 10 years ? Will you give up all your investments and get out of crypto because of this ? Or do you you have even more broader horizon and can wait longer to see the next bull run ?

At first, i'm using my Bitcoin to send money to my loved ones abroad. It serves as my alternative to remittance since the fee is low and the transaction is fast without the need to go outside. I first know Bitcoin (or crypto in general) not as an investment but a way to send money without a third party.

When I discovered the price fluctuation that's how I became interested to invest in it. That being said, even there's no bull run for the next 10 years, it's not a reason to pull out what I invested. Because there's still a reason for me to continue holding my Bitcoin. Nevertheless, it's not realistic for this situation to happen.

I can attest to this since my brother is really that sending out some funds so easily compared when you are trying out to claim on moneygram or western union on which it is really that hassle on going into those outlets.

Unlike when you do receive on Bitcoin or with some altcoins which you could easily make out some conversion into fiat specially on doing p2p then you would be getting or recieving directly with your bank account
or with your online wallet on which this is really that a great convenience i should say. Somewhat it cant really be denied that we do really focuses out on making money or profits on just simply holding into it
but of course not all market condition would really be that green or something that do talks about on upward movement.If ever there would be no bull run on next 10 years then pretty sure that there's
something new that currently been existing on the market which is aside from Bitcoin or other markets where investors are really that lurking on.

It is really just that too long if we do speak about a decade if there would be no some major movements in the market which means that there's something wrong happening behind that.

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Quote from: krishnaverma on August 27, 2023, 11:21:53 PM

What if there is no crypto bull run for next 10 years ? Will you give up all your investments and get out of crypto because of this ? Or do you you have even more broader horizon and can wait longer to see the next bull run ?

At first, i'm using my Bitcoin to send money to my loved ones abroad. It serves as my alternative to remittance since the fee is low and the transaction is fast without the need to go outside. I first know Bitcoin (or crypto in general) not as an investment but a way to send money without a third party.

When I discovered the price fluctuation that's how I became interested to invest in it. That being said, even there's no bull run for the next 10 years, it's not a reason to pull out what I invested. Because there's still a reason for me to continue holding my Bitcoin. Nevertheless, it's not realistic for this situation to happen.

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First of all in my opinion that is not going be happen since we all know the cycle and the difference between the old cycle and to new cycle.

In this cycle, I see there are a lot of institutions that want a piece of the Bitcoin pie starting from a public company like MicroStrategy to Tesla now BlackRock, and Fidelity I think these companies will pave the way to the next bull run and the world seem looking it too.

and for the worst scenario is maybe in next next cycle bitcoin can longer record all time high when reached 1 million per bitcoin Grin

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Quote from: lionheart78 on September 05, 2023, 07:10:21 PM

This is dependent on the current news and updates of Bitcoin. Even though there is no bull run in 10 year time, as long as the Bitcoin economy is proliferating and slowly spreading its adoption, I think I will continue to hodl and accumulate Bitcoin. I believe as long as there is progress both in development and its use case, even if there is no bull run happening, Bitcoin economy can still thrive and eventually, an uptrend can happen. It is just a matter of time I believe.

I agree that not having a bull run doesn't automatically mean that Bitcoin's price will be falling. We could still have periods of modest but consistent gains (that doesn't meet the definition of a bull run), where Bitcoin acts more like a store of value.
At the same time, if you hold BTC mostly for financial gain, it would be silly to keep holding it forever if the price is stagnant or on the decline for prolonged periods of time. At some point, you have to be ready to admit that Bitcoin has failed, and there's no shame in exiting from a failed investment.
Again, that's just a hypothetical scenario.

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Quote from: lionheart78 on September 05, 2023, 07:10:21 PM

This is dependent on the current news and updates of Bitcoin. Even though there is no bull run in 10 year time, as long as the Bitcoin economy is proliferating and slowly spreading its adoption, I think I will continue to hodl and accumulate Bitcoin. I believe as long as there is progress both in development and its use case, even if there is no bull run happening, Bitcoin economy can still thrive and eventually, an uptrend can happen. It is just a matter of time I believe.

It's still quite early days for Bitcoin and it's been around 14 years, and look how it's grown and impacted the world, becoming the most popular decentralized digital payment despite some people continuing to oppose it.

The next 10 years will certainly be a good moment for Bitcoin. Future technology is still quite good and will be widely applied in the future.
Although it is hindered by some regulations, it will find the right model later.

I also keep accumulating the Bitcoin that I have, holding it for the long term as an asset that has the potential to provide more profit, and of course, this is only a matter of time and how much adoption will be done.

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Quote from: krishnaverma on August 27, 2023, 11:21:53 PM

What if there is no crypto bull run for next 10 years ? Will you give up all your investments and get out of crypto because of this ? Or do you you have even more broader horizon and can wait longer to see the next bull run ?
Personally, I am very much positive with bitcoin future but we should also be prepared for all situations. Nothing can be guarantee in present times and we must also be prepared for worst situations.

This is dependent on the current news and updates of Bitcoin. Even though there is no bull run in 10 year time, as long as the Bitcoin economy is proliferating and slowly spreading its adoption, I think I will continue to hodl and accumulate Bitcoin. I believe as long as there is progress both in development and its use case, even if there is no bull run happening, Bitcoin economy can still thrive and eventually, an uptrend can happen. It is just a matter of time I believe.

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Even sideways here for a decade would still be achievement and you will have to acclimatize to less adrenaline per year. A different velocity would bring benefits actually, a more dependable price means more likelihood of structured order flow, you could order things that might take a month or more to arrive not fearing the crypto price changes. The more stable the price, the more likely revenue and trade is facilitated by that stability. Ironically a sideways price is probably stronger and in greater demand, that would raise price from that demand usually.

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