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Quote from: krishnaverma on August 27, 2023, 10:21:53 PM

What if there is no crypto bull run for next 10 years ? Will you give up all your investments and get out of crypto because of this ? Or do you you have even more broader horizon and can wait longer to see the next bull run ?

Personally, I am very much positive with bitcoin future but we should also be prepared for all situations. Nothing can be guarantee in present times and we must also be prepared for worst situations.

No bull run does not mean there is not going to be any growth, since an average growth of 10% every year will be enough to offset inflation, and taking into account the rest of the advantages bitcoin offers that would be enough to keep me invested in it.

However this does not seem as a scenario that could actually happen, as even if bull runs will get milder from now own, they will still appear and bring great benefits to all of those willing to wait for them to take place.

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Quote from: Solokan on August 27, 2023, 11:15:14 PM

Of course we won't know about crypto in the future, because it could be that in the future crypto will progress, and it could be that in the future crypto has the potential to decline.

but for me personally if crypto goes down of course I will accept this fact, because after all I will sell crypto when I make a profit. but I hope percryptoan will be more advanced in the future.

in the future of course crypto will have the potential to advance and will have the potential to decrease,

It's true what you said that if the crypto world is experiencing a decline, of course we have to accept reality, and I personally will also accept reality, but hopefully in the future the crypto world will progress. because if the crypto world collapses, of course it will be difficult for me to get a side job.

Right, anything can happen. But we need to realistically assess what is happening with the crypto industry. Things are going very well and cryptocurrency is also being well received by countries and people, it has even become the focus of many discussions from within the government to the countryside. That shows it is on a strong upward trajectory so there is no reason for things to suddenly go down.
I personally believe that in the future, at least for our generation, cryptocurrencies will continue to grow and dominate other markets. It is being seen as the financial revolution so there is no reason why it should stop suddenly.

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Quote from: Solokan on August 27, 2023, 11:15:14 PM

Of course we won't know about crypto in the future, because it could be that in the future crypto will progress, and it could be that in the future crypto has the potential to decline.

but for me personally if crypto goes down of course I will accept this fact, because after all I will sell crypto when I make a profit. but I hope percryptoan will be more advanced in the future.

in the future of course crypto will have the potential to advance and will have the potential to decrease,

It's true what you said that if the crypto world is experiencing a decline, of course we have to accept reality, and I personally will also accept reality, but hopefully in the future the crypto world will progress. because if the crypto world collapses, of course it will be difficult for me to get a side job.

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Quote from: Solosanz on August 27, 2023, 10:38:41 PM

Do you only buy Bitcoin for the sake of profit? If yes, that's why you're worried if there's no bull run for the next 10 years.

I buy Bitcoin isn't only for profit, but I buy Bitcoin for "become your bank" and I don't trust fiat anymore due to centralization, That's why almost all of my wealth is Bitcoin and I'm not worried if there's no bull run. Privacy concern is another reason too since the government and banks want to control everything.

We should look beyond and know that the purpose of Bitcoin is not just for profit-making or for investment only, but also the freedom that it gave us to be controlling our money, that is really an interesting part of Bitcoin; However, I don't see how possible it will become for the market to melt for 10 years without experiencing any bull market.

You are emphasizing the main point of the OP's question, this is financial markets and how did the market stand still for 10 years? Bitcoin has been around for 14 years and as we can see, it has never stopped moving for even 1 day, let alone 10 years.

Like it or not, bitcoin is being seen by people as an asset rather than a currency, but even as it becomes more and more stable but it will retain its decentralized nature. I believe there will still be a lot of people using it for other purposes, not just for profit. But it is also undeniable that if bitcoin stabilizes then its appeal will lose a lot, many people will abandon it and find other assets to invest in.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on August 28, 2023, 03:16:50 PM

This is not possible and there will be one. Why? Because the bull run is just people buying, and the fact that bitcoin is not going to die anytime soon by the looks of it shows that the trading world consists of buying and selling, you can't just keep going down more and more, it has to go up sometime to make a room and that's how trading is done. It means that we are going to end up with a result where a bull will happen and we are going to make a profit out of that as well.

Hopefully it will not be a small one and we go ballistic like we did previous times. I am sensing that it will start about late of 2024 and early of 2025 and end at somewhere middle of 2025 for sure, that's the realistic estimation of the next bull run.

So if you think it can not be done tell me how gold stayed in a 200-400 usd slot for about 12 years

check gold 1990-2003

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Quote from: krishnaverma on August 27, 2023, 10:21:53 PM

What if there is no crypto bull run for next 10 years ? Will you give up all your investments and get out of crypto because of this ? Or do you you have even more broader horizon and can wait longer to see the next bull run ?

Personally, I am very much positive with bitcoin future but we should also be prepared for all situations. Nothing can be guarantee in present times and we must also be prepared for worst situations.

10 years? That's impossible.
Try to look at the market history, there is usually a bull run right after Bitcoin halving, it could be in the next year when halving occurs.
It's proven by the market history and I believe that the price of Bitcoin will repeat itself.

However, IMO having a broader perspective and a long-term horizon can be beneficial and some investors believe in the fundamental value of cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin, which extends beyond short-term market fluctuations.

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Quote from: krishnaverma on August 27, 2023, 10:21:53 PM

What if there is no crypto bull run for next 10 years ? Will you give up all your investments and get out of crypto because of this ? Or do you you have even more broader horizon and can wait longer to see the next bull run ?

Personally, I am very much positive with bitcoin future but we should also be prepared for all situations. Nothing can be guarantee in present times and we must also be prepared for worst situations.

Then no bitcoin big pumps will happen but don't make it like it stop there since even if no bull run will happen still bitcoin price is volatile and there are also many alts to choose so even if we will not experience that scene we can still earn thru another means. To many times we are dealing with the market with no bull run so expect the same scenario and there's nothing to get afraid with current condition.

The volatility of bitcoin is something that attracts every people. Just think about the recent price drop and the bounce back that had taken place. People who trusted in it and bought when the price dropped have got profit as the price have moved from the range of $26k and traveling around $27700. Similar market movements happens throughout, so there need not be need of complete bullish movement.

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Quote from: krishnaverma on August 27, 2023, 10:21:53 PM

What if there is no crypto bull run for next 10 years ? Will you give up all your investments and get out of crypto because of this ? Or do you you have even more broader horizon and can wait longer to see the next bull run ?

Personally, I am very much positive with bitcoin future but we should also be prepared for all situations. Nothing can be guarantee in present times and we must also be prepared for worst situations.

Then no bitcoin big pumps will happen but don't make it like it stop there since even if no bull run will happen still bitcoin price is volatile and there are also many alts to choose so even if we will not experience that scene we can still earn thru another means. To many times we are dealing with the market with no bull run so expect the same scenario and there's nothing to get afraid with current condition.

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Quote from: krishnaverma on August 27, 2023, 10:21:53 PM

What if there is no crypto bull run for next 10 years ? Will you give up all your investments and get out of crypto because of this ? Or do you you have even more broader horizon and can wait longer to see the next bull run ?

Personally, I am very much positive with bitcoin future but we should also be prepared for all situations. Nothing can be guarantee in present times and we must also be prepared for worst situations.

How can you be optimistic about Bitcoin but on the one hand ask the question what if the crypto market had not had a bull run in 10 years, Before this was asked of course it had already been in your mind and an optimist would never have thought of that.
If crypto, especially Bitcoin, does not have a bull run anymore or for 10 years, it means that Bitcoin is no longer just a commodity of exchange but has been used more as a means of payment, such as fiat, whose price movements will be more stable, because people will no longer save to earn profits but use it massively in the world for transactions and its original purpose as a currency was achieved.

He is not optimistic about bitcoin, but he is rather Pessimistic about bitcoins and therefore he can't see the bull run in the next 10 years.

Yes, anyone can say that Bitcoin makes all time high every four years and this time it won't repeat the same pattern but for this to happen we need the world fiat system to flourish, inflation to come all the way down and interest rates of fiat money to increase so that people are encouraged to keep their money in paper money and not invest in risky markets such as bitcoins and cryptocurrencies.

However, I do not see the above happening anytime soon and therefore people will be accumlating bitcoin in order to hegde against inflation and it is every possibility that Bitcoin will make another all time high in less than 2 years from now.

Just let those people do say on things that they do have in mind and since this is a forum then it would really be just that fine if ever they would really be pessimistic about Bitcoin or this entire crypto space on which it would really be just that normal that there would be people have still those doubts or simply that skeptical on what we do have now. What would happen if there would be no crypto bull run on next 10 years? There's no way on knowing that before hand because we know that we do have that 4 year cycle on which on the time that the that we do missed out a bull run on 1 cycle then majority of people would
really be raising up that main question, on how the heck is happening within the market? How much more if it would be able to do in consecutive cycles on having no bull run and assuming that it would be a 10 year period? For sure we could really say that trust on this marketspace had already depleted out.

There's no way on knowing on what would be the future of this market but as long that demand would circulate or really still that present then it would be understandable
that it would really continue to run but of course it would really be that totally random.

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Quote from: Strongkored on August 28, 2023, 09:49:15 PM

Quote from: krishnaverma on August 27, 2023, 10:21:53 PM

What if there is no crypto bull run for next 10 years ? Will you give up all your investments and get out of crypto because of this ? Or do you you have even more broader horizon and can wait longer to see the next bull run ?

Personally, I am very much positive with bitcoin future but we should also be prepared for all situations. Nothing can be guarantee in present times and we must also be prepared for worst situations.

How can you be optimistic about Bitcoin but on the one hand ask the question what if the crypto market had not had a bull run in 10 years, Before this was asked of course it had already been in your mind and an optimist would never have thought of that.
If crypto, especially Bitcoin, does not have a bull run anymore or for 10 years, it means that Bitcoin is no longer just a commodity of exchange but has been used more as a means of payment, such as fiat, whose price movements will be more stable, because people will no longer save to earn profits but use it massively in the world for transactions and its original purpose as a currency was achieved.

He is not optimistic about bitcoin, but he is rather Pessimistic about bitcoins and therefore he can't see the bull run in the next 10 years.

Yes, anyone can say that Bitcoin makes all time high every four years and this time it won't repeat the same pattern but for this to happen we need the world fiat system to flourish, inflation to come all the way down and interest rates of fiat money to increase so that people are encouraged to keep their money in paper money and not invest in risky markets such as bitcoins and cryptocurrencies.

However, I do not see the above happening anytime soon and therefore people will be accumlating bitcoin in order to hegde against inflation and it is every possibility that Bitcoin will make another all time high in less than 2 years from now.

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Quote from: krishnaverma on August 27, 2023, 10:21:53 PM

What if there is no crypto bull run for next 10 years ? Will you give up all your investments and get out of crypto because of this ? Or do you you have even more broader horizon and can wait longer to see the next bull run ?

Personally, I am very much positive with bitcoin future but we should also be prepared for all situations. Nothing can be guarantee in present times and we must also be prepared for worst situations.

Generally, that doesn't sound possible since the adoption will keep increasing and there will always be more people willing to buy than those willing to sell their assets and that is basically what drives the market. If there is more demand and less supply in a market, that market tends to gain value over time. So, I don't think that the price of Bitcoin will keep going down or stay stable where it is right now without any pumps and positive price movements at all.

However, if that happens, people who have faith in Bitcoin will most likely stick to it and keep holding their Bitcoins for as long as the market doesn't reach a positive point for them, and those who don't believe in it but made investments just for the short-term hoping to get a lot of profit will probably exit the market and go somewhere else.

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Quote from: Solosanz on August 27, 2023, 10:38:41 PM

Do you only buy Bitcoin for the sake of profit? if yes, that's why you're worried if there's no bull run for the next 10 years.

I buy Bitcoin isn't only for profit, but I buy Bitcoin for "become your own bank" and I don't trust fiat anymore due to centralization, that's why almost all of my wealth is Bitcoin and I'm not worried if there's no bull run. Privacy concern is an another reason too since the government and bank want to control everything.

I know that in addition to profit, bitcoin offers us many other use cases. But it would be a lie if you said you bought bitcoin just to protect your privacy and not interested in profit. Did you buy bitcoin at $69k and use it when it dropped to $15k last year? I'm also interested in using bitcoin to make myself my own bank, but I don't want to pretend that if bitcoin didn't go up, I would still care about it as much as I do now. I don't want to spend my bitcoins if I lose and I don't believe you or anyone else can.

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Quote from: krishnaverma on August 27, 2023, 10:21:53 PM

What if there is no crypto bull run for next 10 years ? Will you give up all your investments and get out of crypto because of this ? Or do you you have even more broader horizon and can wait longer to see the next bull run ?

Personally, I am very much positive with bitcoin future but we should also be prepared for all situations. Nothing can be guarantee in present times and we must also be prepared for worst situations.

How can you be optimistic about Bitcoin but on the one hand ask the question what if the crypto market had not had a bull run in 10 years, Before this was asked of course it had already been in your mind and an optimist would never have thought of that.
If crypto, especially Bitcoin, does not have a bull run anymore or for 10 years, it means that Bitcoin is no longer just a commodity of exchange but has been used more as a means of payment, such as fiat, whose price movements will be more stable, because people will no longer save to earn profits but use it massively in the world for transactions and its original purpose as a currency was achieved.

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Actually the OP's question makes a bit of sense because it is not easy to predict the future of crypto or Bitcoin which is not easy to predict, and this is where we are always advised to use extra money or money we can afford to lose. So even though it's beyond our expectations, it's not too painful, even though there will be disappointments.
However, if you look at developments from time to time, crypto, especially Bitcoin, continues to grow and the demand continues to increase. And this most likely proves that the Bitcoin price will not disappoint in the future and doing DCA using the extra cash after prioritizing the essential needs is the best way in the long term.

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Quote from: Solosanz on August 27, 2023, 10:38:41 PM

Do you only buy Bitcoin for the sake of profit? If yes, that's why you're worried if there's no bull run for the next 10 years.

I buy Bitcoin isn't only for profit, but I buy Bitcoin for "become your bank" and I don't trust fiat anymore due to centralization, That's why almost all of my wealth is Bitcoin and I'm not worried if there's no bull run. Privacy concern is another reason too since the government and banks want to control everything.

We should look beyond and know that the purpose of Bitcoin is not just for profit-making or for investment only, but also the freedom that it gave us to be controlling our money, that is really an interesting part of Bitcoin; However, I don't see how possible it will become for the market to melt for 10 years without experiencing any bull market.

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Quote from: krishnaverma on August 27, 2023, 10:21:53 PM

Personally, I am very much positive with bitcoin future but we should also be prepared for all situations. Nothing can be guarantee in present times and we must also be prepared for worst situations.

It is quite said that you are much more positive but deep inside, you are still thinking negatively and asking What IF?
Indeed, you are right that there is no guarantee but if we consider the volatility of the market, even without a bull run investors still have the chance to earn a profit from every correction. It was not really necessary to have a bull run but what we need is to have a sustainable market. Those who trust Bitcoin will remain hopeful and still hold their Bitcoin.

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Quote from: krishnaverma on August 27, 2023, 10:21:53 PM

What if there is no crypto bull run for next 10 years ? Will you give up all your investments and get out of crypto because of this ? Or do you you have even more broader horizon and can wait longer to see the next bull run ?

Personally, I am very much positive with bitcoin future but we should also be prepared for all situations. Nothing can be guarantee in present times and we must also be prepared for worst situations.

Preparing for bad situations is part of risk control over investing, which is good. But to answer your question, can you tell me about how much increase you doubt in the next 10 years?

Some predictions and speculations are very reasonable to hope for, of course some are not. If you expect bitcoin price to break $200k - $300k in the next 10 years, then I think that's still reasonable. If you expect the bitcoin price to break through $1B in 10 years, then that's too low a chance to be true. Of course, the exit plan can be adjusted according to market conditions, of course you have to understand enough about when is the best time to exit and take profit, even though you can never be patient with the price you expect.

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This is not possible and there will be one. Why? Because the bull run is just people buying, and the fact that bitcoin is not going to die anytime soon by the looks of it shows that the trading world consists of buying and selling, you can't just keep going down more and more, it has to go up sometime to make a room and that's how trading is done. It means that we are going to end up with a result where a bull will happen and we are going to make a profit out of that as well.

Hopefully it will not be a small one and we go ballistic like we did previous times. I am sensing that it will start about late of 2024 and early of 2025 and end at somewhere middle of 2025 for sure, that's the realistic estimation of the next bull run.

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Quote from: eightdots on August 28, 2023, 10:32:02 AM

Bitcoin taught me to wait. Thanks to Bitcoin, I learned how to invest, how to research and how to improve myself. If there is no crypto bull run for the next 10 years, I will count what I have learned as profit and move on.

I believe in Bitcoin and I think the bull run is coming. Many institutions and individuals understood the message that Bitcoin has proven itself and will continue. At the same time, we know that the risks are in every investment. If we say that we are improving ourselves, we should know that we need to take precautions for such situations.

Seeing price pattern of Bitcoin for last ten years, I would say there are plenty of folks out there who will be happy to wait for 10 years even if there is no bull run. When Price of Bitcoin was stable at 30k$, to my surprise I keep on reading here that Bitcoin has gone bearish since there is no more upward price moment. To many people even price of 30k$ was not a big number. There is no trading sector in this world where price only go up. Upward, stability and downward price moment are part of every trading market and so is Bitcoin market.

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People that are a part of cryptocurrency know better that how to maintain their emotions during Bull and bear season and as now there is dump in price so there will be different thoughts on coming situations.

Those who trust bitcoin will never be disappointed but we don't know that how longer this situations will be so it depends on the duration of bear season. May be some holder wait for three of four years and then their hopes become end so surely they will close the journey of their success through cryptocurrency.

To avoid such losses a person should not invest too much money that he cannot bear the loss, as today we see bitcoin as a successful coin but tomorrow is not notice by anyone so try be prepared for tomorrow also.

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