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Quote from: doomloop on July 12, 2024, 03:55:53 AM

Quote from: dansus021 on July 11, 2024, 02:35:59 AM

What Work Now May Not Work Tomorrow pattern do exist but I agree that is going to work everytime. Like your friend i usually do play a mines game i use pattern that bomb usually dont in the same place. It work like 3 times in a 5 games but only work if you setting the bomb 1 and you can only take profit 1 tiles that gives u only 0.04x which is very low.

However, at the end of the day, it's gambling, and it won't let you keep winning. Sometimes, you wouldn't be able to open more than 3 tiles, it starts to feel like the bomb moves when you start opening tiles and it moves near the tiles where you are opening and boom, you lose. That's how gambling is, it's a game of chance and your chances of losing are mostly higher than winning.

For the longest time I've been gambling I always proved that there is no such thing as a pattern one can follow to guarantee winnings, it's an illusion and people should stop believing in any pattern even if a so called expert in gambling told you that it's possible.

It's unfortunate in my case that I found this out after incurring big losses but it's better to learn late than never admit that such a pattern exists.

Thank you to all who participated in this discussion I will be locking this thread and we will move on to the next discussion.

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Quote from: dansus021 on July 11, 2024, 02:35:59 AM

What Work Now May Not Work Tomorrow pattern do exist but I agree that is going to work everytime. Like your friend i usually do play a mines game i use pattern that bomb usually dont in the same place. It work like 3 times in a 5 games but only work if you setting the bomb 1 and you can only take profit 1 tiles that gives u only 0.04x which is very low.

What's the point? If you are losing 2 bets out of 5, you are losing 2x, and winning 3 bets for 0.04x would only give you 0.12x which means you are losing 1.88x with this pattern. In mines, it can only sometimes be profitable if you go ahead and open quite a few tiles if you open the bomb once. If you manage to open more tiles, it means you will get a higher multiplier than what you have lost just now and that will make it even.

However, at the end of the day, it's gambling, and it won't let you keep winning. Sometimes, you wouldn't be able to open more than 3 tiles, it starts to feel like the bomb moves when you start opening tiles and it moves near the tiles where you are opening and boom, you lose. That's how gambling is, it's a game of chance and your chances of losing are mostly higher than winning.

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Quote from: coin-investor on March 03, 2024, 10:51:49 AM

I always tell and advise my friends who are new to gambling to never look for a pattern in luck-based games because there is none even the ever-popular martingale is not a guarantee that you can find a pattern that will give you a continuous win.

I have a friend who boasted that he had found a pattern where it allowed him to win 10 successive bets on Mine Sweeper, he used that pattern two successive days with success but unfortunately for him on the third day those patterns are not working anymore even on the 4th and fifth days, now he is back on the drawing board again..

I told him that the house edge plays out and since this is luck based game what works now may not work tomorrow every day is a new session with new patterns

How about you have you at one time of your gambling experience experienced finding patterns that you think are effective and consistent only to find out later after several days that it's not working anymore..

And are you still looking for patterns that you think will work in the long run for you.

I tried sometimes mostly from desperation rather than thinking it will be a working way in slot machines and I saw someone saying that in some Pragmatic slots if you happen to have 9 consecutive lost if you 5x your bet it will be a win and he was talking about buying the bonus not normal play.Two times it happened to work and I was happy as a baby only to see that after these two times the loses were even bigger and even more than 9 consecutive lost buy bonus feature.So yes it does not work as the house edge will keep hitting you hard.

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This holds true for not just luck based games but for skill/luck based games as well. Take poker for example. Poker is a beautiful game to me since that it involves both luck but even more so skill. Players however always need to be evolving their "games" as eventually players strategies, little q's, and overall play will be discovered..even the slightest tells can ruin a players game and always evolving in bluff tactics, mannerisms, etc is something needed in a game like this. Why I love it so much!

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Quote from: Blitzboy on July 07, 2024, 03:12:14 PM

House always wins, everyone knows. Its designed that way. However, its not bad. It entertains. Thrills cost money.

Its not just about money. Our risk-taking and ups-and-downs matter. It reflects uncertain life. Its nice to win, but regulating emotions and keeping in control is more important.

The bookie will always win. The casino owner will always win. That is an undoubted fact. Players also have the opportunity to win but players also have the possibility to lose. I often see someone who loses thousands of dollars and destroys his life and his family because he always loses at gambling. But I have never seen a casino go bankrupt because players always win the game. Players have the potential to hit the jackpot but believe me the chances will be very, very small. Because of that, I think it makes no sense if there are people who try to find patterns in a gambling system. Because it is impossible for casinos or bookies to create special patterns that can give jackpots.

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In fact, people who believe that there are patterns in completely random games are quite common. Even on this forum, I periodically see messages like “What if such patterns exist?” It's fun to read, but people actually waste their time and money trying to find patterns in random games. I can theoretically assume that some brilliant person will be able to find such a pattern, but, as for me, the probability of such an event is vanishingly small. Perhaps the search for such patterns is one of the reasons for the emergence of addiction.

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Quote from: tread93 on July 08, 2024, 10:58:57 AM

Quote from: coin-investor on March 03, 2024, 10:51:49 AM

I always tell and advise my friends who are new to gambling to never look for a pattern in luck-based games because there is none even the ever-popular martingale is not a guarantee that you can find a pattern that will give you a continuous win.

I have a friend who boasted that he had found a pattern where it allowed him to win 10 successive bets on Mine Sweeper, he used that pattern two successive days with success but unfortunately for him on the third day those patterns are not working anymore even on the 4th and fifth days, now he is back on the drawing board again..

I told him that the house edge plays out and since this is luck based game what works now may not work tomorrow every day is a new session with new patterns

How about you have you at one time of your gambling experience experienced finding patterns that you think are effective and consistent only to find out later after several days that it's not working anymore..

And are you still looking for patterns that you think will work in the long run for you.

I thinks it’s curious that they didn’t catch onto these pattern plays sooner but as you said his 4th - 6th days even the patterns there didn’t work and he was back to the drawing board. I would imagine casinos go though great lengths to try to keep their winning percentage as high as they can and I’m sure they have they ways with keeping that percentage as high as possible, maybe even have a full time pattern checker guy! Lol

So many things are happening and we need to be careful how what we are doing and how we intend to make money from the gambling. What works for me may not work for the second person which is a good reason why we need to be smart and take things seriously so that we don't have to blame ourselves because of the kind of loses we acquire from gambling. I don't like copying people's pattern because I don't know their secrets and what they are doing that they are not talking. We just have to keep doing things in our own ways so we don't blame people for our own decisions.

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Quote from: dansus021 on July 11, 2024, 02:35:59 AM

What Work Now May Not Work Tomorrow pattern do exist but I agree that is going to work everytime. Like your friend i usually do play a mines game i use pattern that bomb usually dont in the same place. It work like 3 times in a 5 games but only work if you setting the bomb 1 and you can only take profit 1 tiles that gives u only 0.04x which is very low.

And pattern usually exist in sport game like football because some sport game can be predicted from the past game data tho all of this just my opinion

That's because the pattern will always change and will not be the same from day by day. We must realizes that and that's why we must keeps learning to have a good skills in betting if we really wants to have good skills. What we gets today will not works tomorrow means we must keep trying to have a better things to do to gets the better.

Betting on sports game needs to have skills so we can analyze the match and we can place our bet. We don't have to feels sad if we can't wins today because we will still have more chances to wins tomorrow or other days. But if we wins today, we should realizes that tomorrow or other days will be different than today so we must prepare for anything including to keeps learning more things to improves our skills.

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Quote from: coin-investor on March 03, 2024, 10:51:49 AM

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How about you have you at one time of your gambling experience experienced finding patterns that you think are effective and consistent only to find out later after several days that it's not working anymore..

And are you still looking for patterns that you think will work in the long run for you.

At this present age and exposure, I don't think that some people can still be gullible to the extent that they believe and be boastful of a working pattern in casinos which is mostly luck-based. Fine, there are times that the algorithms of the canso could shift to a certain pattern which could have been what your friend detected, but the casino is not foolish to the point that they will make the algorithms work in such a pattern for too long. They vary it for such reasons as your friend so it is dynamic. The best is for us to pray for the right luck at the right time, otherwise, what you think will work for you will badly disappoint you.

As for looking for a pattern, my brother, heck No, I won't even dare it. I am only serious about the money made with sports betting and accept the casinos' games as they are.

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Quote from: dansus021 on July 11, 2024, 02:35:59 AM

What Work Now May Not Work Tomorrow pattern do exist but I agree that is going to work everytime. Like your friend i usually do play a mines game i use pattern that bomb usually dont in the same place. It work like 3 times in a 5 games but only work if you setting the bomb 1 and you can only take profit 1 tiles that gives u only 0.04x which is very low.

And pattern usually exist in sport game like football because some sport game can be predicted from the past game data tho all of this just my opinion

Perhaps the percentage is that low to really predict the outcome of the game. Because it is then there are no challenges and we can make a lot of profit from gambling. But it's not the case, it's the unknown that makes gambling really very hard but at the same time reward for us if we win big. So don't rely on patterns, just bet on what you want to in certain sports, be it the underdog or the favorite.

In the game like baccarat which I become addicted previously, I tend to believed that I can beat the house and found patterns. But it's not, it is random and those who says that they can find patterns are either just lucky, or just dumb as there are none to be honest. It's all random and just coincidence.

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What Work Now May Not Work Tomorrow pattern do exist but I agree that is going to work everytime. Like your friend i usually do play a mines game i use pattern that bomb usually dont in the same place. It work like 3 times in a 5 games but only work if you setting the bomb 1 and you can only take profit 1 tiles that gives u only 0.04x which is very low.

And pattern usually exist in sport game like football because some sport game can be predicted from the past game data tho all of this just my opinion

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Quote from: nimogsm on July 05, 2024, 06:55:37 AM

simply betting on your favorite team will not always bring profit. Sometimes the opponent can be much better and more serious. It is stupid to bet only on your favorite club just because you are a big fan of it. Sometimes sober thinking should be greater than love for the team.This is the first example that came to mind since I once knew such a fanatic of one club.

I agree with this, and I always advise people not to make this mistake because even if they love a team or a player, they shouldn't make bets on them all the time because there can be better sides than them in the world and they are up against a stronger team and you are still making your bet on your favourite team, you are basically giving your money away just because you support that team, you don't need to waste your money to show your support.

When you are sitting at home, watching the game on your TV, and enjoying yourself, you don't need to make a financial bet to show your support for your team, moral support is enough, just don't bet if you think that the opponent is stronger than your team so that you don't lose your money and just enjoy the game.

On the moment that you do attach your emotion towards betting then this is something that could bring out such disaster on which on the moment that you do find yourself being attached to a team or a player then you are really that making up bets through emotions and not something that minding about on how to win up.We do know that when it comes to betting then it won't really be ideal that you would really be attaching yourself on emotional aspect on where you do bet up, basing into the emotions on which it would be not good on having this kind approach.

Bet according into those teams or players on which it does have that bigger chance of winning and even if you do go against with your favorite team/player then do it.Having that betting according to your favorite is acting like that you are really that showing up some support.

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Quote from: lixer on July 10, 2024, 02:06:23 PM

I agree with this, and I always advise people not to make this mistake because even if they love a team or a player, they shouldn't make bets on them all the time because there can be better sides than them in the world and they are up against a stronger team and you are still making your bet on your favourite team, you are basically giving your money away just because you support that team, you don't need to waste your money to show your support.

When you are sitting at home, watching the game on your TV, and enjoying yourself, you don't need to make a financial bet to show your support for your team, moral support is enough, just don't bet if you think that the opponent is stronger than your team so that you don't lose your money and just enjoy the game.

Who would have thought that Bayern Leverkusen was going to have a straight run up last season. Just imagine staking win or draw in all of their matches last season, even though you are given 1.2 odd, a single game with $1000 for every 38 match play is going to return a good amount of money but who knows they were going to turn out well. Even with that, they failed to beat Atalanta in the Europa final and a lot of people lose money on that match, that's how scary betting can be sometimes.

I'm very sure some gamblers are going to have the same mentality this season by always giving much win to Leverkusen thinking what happen last season is going to happen again but it can't, only in a rare money such season do repeat it self because definitely the transfer market is open, there is going to be + or - players across many different teams and there is no way the teams are going to remain the same, some players might likely resume the season with injuries as the like of Copa America and Euro is ongoing.

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Quote from: nimogsm on July 05, 2024, 06:55:37 AM

simply betting on your favorite team will not always bring profit. Sometimes the opponent can be much better and more serious. It is stupid to bet only on your favorite club just because you are a big fan of it. Sometimes sober thinking should be greater than love for the team.This is the first example that came to mind since I once knew such a fanatic of one club.

I agree with this, and I always advise people not to make this mistake because even if they love a team or a player, they shouldn't make bets on them all the time because there can be better sides than them in the world and they are up against a stronger team and you are still making your bet on your favourite team, you are basically giving your money away just because you support that team, you don't need to waste your money to show your support.

When you are sitting at home, watching the game on your TV, and enjoying yourself, you don't need to make a financial bet to show your support for your team, moral support is enough, just don't bet if you think that the opponent is stronger than your team so that you don't lose your money and just enjoy the game.

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Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on July 06, 2024, 04:21:26 PM

The problem is, how are you supposed to knen when it repeats itself?... How exactly is that possible?

Well according to what I have seen and studied, the patterns repeat a lot, but only in short term trading, that is to say in binary options trading, I have realized that they repeat themselves a lot, in the medium and long term the patterns sometimes do not work for me, so this is something that I see as an advantage, of course, these patterns only in trading, as in games of chance such as roulette or others I do not see that the patterns repeat themselves often, some do repeat themselves, but it is too reckless to trust the patterns, because suddenly everything changes.

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Quote from: tread93 on July 08, 2024, 10:58:57 AM

Quote from: coin-investor on March 03, 2024, 10:51:49 AM

I always tell and advise my friends who are new to gambling to never look for a pattern in luck-based games because there is none even the ever-popular martingale is not a guarantee that you can find a pattern that will give you a continuous win.

I have a friend who boasted that he had found a pattern where it allowed him to win 10 successive bets on Mine Sweeper, he used that pattern two successive days with success but unfortunately for him on the third day those patterns are not working anymore even on the 4th and fifth days, now he is back on the drawing board again..

I told him that the house edge plays out and since this is luck based game what works now may not work tomorrow every day is a new session with new patterns

How about you have you at one time of your gambling experience experienced finding patterns that you think are effective and consistent only to find out later after several days that it's not working anymore..

And are you still looking for patterns that you think will work in the long run for you.

I thinks it’s curious that they didn’t catch onto these pattern plays sooner but as you said his 4th - 6th days even the patterns there didn’t work and he was back to the drawing board. I would imagine casinos go though great lengths to try to keep their winning percentage as high as they can and I’m sure they have they ways with keeping that percentage as high as possible, maybe even have a full time pattern checker guy! Lol

Very possible as casino are designed to make money so probably they monitor things out from time to time, it's always the money that they'll going to collect so if ever that you managed to make some you need to wise that you won't be able to keep it that way or I mean you need to understand that if you are lucky today you can't assume that you might be lucky again the following day, being practical and wise give you that mindset to always stop when you see that you already reach your limits.

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Quote from: STT on July 08, 2024, 11:41:29 AM

House is running the game, they have to win or the game cannot continue being run at any cost. Its a turn of phrase, in effect there is a fee to playing its not free but the money is extracted via a stated obvious bias in the game odds. The Green slot on the roulette wheel is the most obvious, every spin is a fee of sorts even if its not collected every time.

Yes, this is the absolute truth. But I’m wondering if anyone would visit a casino with “fair” odds (where there is no zero on the roulette wheel) if entrance to the casino was paid? Moreover, it is essentially paid - hourly payment and access to halls with different limits for different prices. It seems to me that most people would choose a classic free casino, although the essence of the action would not change in any way.

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House is running the game, they have to win or the game cannot continue being run at any cost. Its a turn of phrase, in effect there is a fee to playing its not free but the money is extracted via a stated obvious bias in the game odds. The Green slot on the roulette wheel is the most obvious, every spin is a fee of sorts even if its not collected every time.

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Overall, gambling always runs randomly, especially in slot or dice games or other types of games that do not have statistical data from previous games to be analyzed, meaning they are games that depend purely on luck.

I think from the idea of "luck" alone it is clear that whatever you do and whatever strategy you apply and which you believe to increase your chances of winning will have absolutely no effect, in the end you just waste a lot of time looking for various ways or strategies because In the end, the strategy you apply will not have any effect on the results at the end of the session.

Previously, maybe you managed to win by using the strategy or pattern that you applied at that time, but if we talk about the type of game that depends on luck then of course there is little possibility for you to get the same results at different times, meaning that the winnings you produce previously it was nothing more than just luck that came at the right time. There is no connection between previous results and subsequent results in gambling, especially if we are talking about a type of gambling that does not have any statistics that can be analyzed.

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Quote from: Blitzboy on July 07, 2024, 03:12:14 PM

House always wins, everyone knows. Its designed that way. However, its not bad. It entertains. Thrills cost money.

Its not just about money. Our risk-taking and ups-and-downs matter. It reflects uncertain life. Its nice to win, but regulating emotions and keeping in control is more important.

The right method to support gambling is wise. Psychology and education are key. Balance is key. The game and atmosphere grab you, but not too much. Realistically, you focus on fun, not winning.

Thats winning thinking. Its about self-awareness, ambitions, and practicality, not just money. You win life that way.

You almost wound me with these motivations, if this can be converted to a specific way to win money from casinos, will love that because I just want to win though. I have trust issues when it comes to casino games that's why I don't fancy them like sport games. Not like they are not cool to play, they are but I want to know my probability and know how games are moving, in most cases most casino games don't let you know how you will be winning even with the skills, just try and error all the damm time.

Sport games outcomes are something you can't control but cool that you can make a call about how it will be and how is going to end. The hedge is not on you and not on the casino but on what the players play in the end, it's better that nobody controls the system but strictly the outsider even though the casino might still tweak the system to hard you, I feel it's better for me that way to play sport bets.

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