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1. Difficult/expensive to acquire


I think the difficult on the purchase is agreat limit of bitcoin, id like to have a service that  allows you to change fiat in bitcoin  simple, fast and without registration, a kind of vending machine, as in car parks or those drinks, allowing also to buy like 1$ of bitcoin

I think it is very easy if you can find someone on this forum to make an exchange, via escrow, there are tons of ways to accumulate your coins. I think the ones I earned are the one I hold most dearly. There are bitcoin atm's that will accept local currency and put it on your wallet.

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1. Difficult/expensive to acquire


I think the difficult on the purchase is agreat limit of bitcoin, id like to have a service that  allows you to change fiat in bitcoin  simple, fast and without registration, a kind of vending machine, as in car parks or those drinks, allowing also to buy like 1$ of bitcoin
legendary
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No peer to peer banking app. If my programming time isn't already 100 percent occupied with other projects already, I'd code one. It seems to me that it is a waste of bitcoins to have it just sit in your wallet all the time. You should have a banking app that will allow you to loan your bitcoins out with interest based on a borrower's credit score. Your money should be working for you, making interest and dividends, not just sitting in your wallet.

Have a blockchain like app with multiple decentralized servers take deposits. Then, this app will make loans with interest based on credit scores. The app will then pay the depositors interest minus a reasonable fee for the people running the servers. This would act as a bank without the crazy banking fees and our taxes being given away to "bail out" shitty banksters that will only use the money to throw fancy parites with hookers and champagne! Computer servers don't need hookers and champagne.

There should be automated apps that take the place of all financial services which are currently run by corrupt banksters and lawyers.


That's a good idea.

I'm inclined to say it's not.  Lending at interest with a finite monetary supply will only encourage fractional reserve practices.  Bitcoin's economy at its core is not debt-based like the fiat world.  Imagine if Satoshi, after mining the first BTC50, had immediately lent out those coins with a 5% interest rate.  This means there would be BTC52.5 to pay back.  Where does the person he lent them to get the extra BTC2.5 from?  It didn't exist until the next block was mined.  I've never been a great fan of religion, but the one thing they used to get right (but sadly don't care about it anymore) is that they made it clear that usury was morally questionable.

Ok. Not bad. So in a bitcoin world there will be no such thing as interest?

Oh I'm sure there will be, it's pretty much inevitable.  There's nothing that prevents people from charging interest, so it's only natural that people will give in to greed and do exactly that.  They're probably already doing it right now.  It just kinda goes against the ethos of the whole thing (in my opinion at least).  As soon as you introduce debt in a system with a finite monetary supply, you are essentially guaranteeing that someone, somewhere, will be unable to repay because there isn't enough money actually existing in the system to cover the interest.  People will do just about anything to turn a profit, even if it means screwing someone else over.

What you're saying isn't true. It would be true if the guy who borrowed from Satoshi has to pay it back in a 1-time lump sum. However, he can provide a service that slowly earns bitcoins, and pay those back to Satoshi. In turn, Satoshi spends the bitcoins he got back somewhere, and that third party spends the bitcoin buying the service from the guy who borrowed from Satoshi. Now he has enough bitcoins to pay back Satoshi in full, without any magically appearing bitcoins.

If there was no interest involved, then yes, that would work just fine.  However, with interest, the person who borrowed the money might find a way to pay it back over time, but somewhere along the line, someone (or a group of someones) will always be in debt by BTC2.5 and that number will grow every time someone lends at interest.  If there is a fixed total number of coins and the interest requires more than that total to be paid, someone will end up owing money that doesn't exist.  That's why debt collectors usually resort to taking your possessions, most people (literally) can't pay.
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1. Difficult/expensive to acquire
2. Easy to get hacked/stolen if not careful - fraught with Wild West bamboozling ridiculous
3. Not so much real world use cases yet
4. Dissapointing speculation
legendary
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Transaction time is a biggest concern. Some time its instant. Other time it takes much time and some users even wait for like 5 confirmation which normally take 30 mins for me now. So waiting seems to be drawback.

transaction time are always instant, you are talking about confirmations, but it should be pointed out that the current situation is a not a good indicator of the normal network activity, so what you're experiencing now will not happen without the spam/attack/whatever and the blockchain split issue
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Transaction time is a biggest concern. Some time its instant. Other time it takes much time and some users even wait for like 5 confirmation which normally take 30 mins for me now. So waiting seems to be drawback.
legendary
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My biggest problem with bitcoin is the obvious skew in opinions and elitist attitudes of several people associated with what is supposed to be the adoption of bitcoin as a currency.  But then again, maybe mediocrity is best for now.  Maybe the world isn't ready for bitcoin so it's just fine to keep it for the techies.
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No peer to peer banking app. If my programming time isn't already 100 percent occupied with other projects already, I'd code one. It seems to me that it is a waste of bitcoins to have it just sit in your wallet all the time. You should have a banking app that will allow you to loan your bitcoins out with interest based on a borrower's credit score. Your money should be working for you, making interest and dividends, not just sitting in your wallet.

Have a blockchain like app with multiple decentralized servers take deposits. Then, this app will make loans with interest based on credit scores. The app will then pay the depositors interest minus a reasonable fee for the people running the servers. This would act as a bank without the crazy banking fees and our taxes being given away to "bail out" shitty banksters that will only use the money to throw fancy parites with hookers and champagne! Computer servers don't need hookers and champagne.

There should be automated apps that take the place of all financial services which are currently run by corrupt banksters and lawyers.


That's a good idea.

I'm inclined to say it's not.  Lending at interest with a finite monetary supply will only encourage fractional reserve practices.  Bitcoin's economy at its core is not debt-based like the fiat world.  Imagine if Satoshi, after mining the first BTC50, had immediately lent out those coins with a 5% interest rate.  This means there would be BTC52.5 to pay back.  Where does the person he lent them to get the extra BTC2.5 from?  It didn't exist until the next block was mined.  I've never been a great fan of religion, but the one thing they used to get right (but sadly don't care about it anymore) is that they made it clear that usury was morally questionable.

Ok. Not bad. So in a bitcoin world there will be no such thing as interest?

Oh I'm sure there will be, it's pretty much inevitable.  There's nothing that prevents people from charging interest, so it's only natural that people will give in to greed and do exactly that.  They're probably already doing it right now.  It just kinda goes against the ethos of the whole thing (in my opinion at least).  As soon as you introduce debt in a system with a finite monetary supply, you are essentially guaranteeing that someone, somewhere, will be unable to repay because there isn't enough money actually existing in the system to cover the interest.  People will do just about anything to turn a profit, even if it means screwing someone else over.

What you're saying isn't true. It would be true if the guy who borrowed from Satoshi has to pay it back in a 1-time lump sum. However, he can provide a service that slowly earns bitcoins, and pay those back to Satoshi. In turn, Satoshi spends the bitcoins he got back somewhere, and that third party spends the bitcoin buying the service from the guy who borrowed from Satoshi. Now he has enough bitcoins to pay back Satoshi in full, without any magically appearing bitcoins.



newbie
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No peer to peer banking app. If my programming time isn't already 100 percent occupied with other projects already, I'd code one. It seems to me that it is a waste of bitcoins to have it just sit in your wallet all the time. You should have a banking app that will allow you to loan your bitcoins out with interest based on a borrower's credit score. Your money should be working for you, making interest and dividends, not just sitting in your wallet.

Have a blockchain like app with multiple decentralized servers take deposits. Then, this app will make loans with interest based on credit scores. The app will then pay the depositors interest minus a reasonable fee for the people running the servers. This would act as a bank without the crazy banking fees and our taxes being given away to "bail out" shitty banksters that will only use the money to throw fancy parites with hookers and champagne! Computer servers don't need hookers and champagne.

There should be automated apps that take the place of all financial services which are currently run by corrupt banksters and lawyers.


That's a good idea.

I'm inclined to say it's not.  Lending at interest with a finite monetary supply will only encourage fractional reserve practices.  Bitcoin's economy at its core is not debt-based like the fiat world.  Imagine if Satoshi, after mining the first BTC50, had immediately lent out those coins with a 5% interest rate.  This means there would be BTC52.5 to pay back.  Where does the person he lent them to get the extra BTC2.5 from?  It didn't exist until the next block was mined.  I've never been a great fan of religion, but the one thing they used to get right (but sadly don't care about it anymore) is that they made it clear that usury was morally questionable.

Ok. Not bad. So in a bitcoin world there will be no such thing as interest?

Oh I'm sure there will be, it's pretty much inevitable.  There's nothing that prevents people from charging interest, so it's only natural that people will give in to greed and do exactly that.  They're probably already doing it right now.  It just kinda goes against the ethos of the whole thing (in my opinion at least).  As soon as you introduce debt in a system with a finite monetary supply, you are essentially guaranteeing that someone, somewhere, will be unable to repay because there isn't enough money actually existing in the system to cover the interest.  People will do just about anything to turn a profit, even if it means screwing someone else over.

I can see your point.

So - in a weird twist - FIAT money are more digital than Bitcoins? FIAT just needs to actually exist in a very limited amount and the rest can be digits on a computer. Btc seem to have to exist...
legendary
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No peer to peer banking app. If my programming time isn't already 100 percent occupied with other projects already, I'd code one. It seems to me that it is a waste of bitcoins to have it just sit in your wallet all the time. You should have a banking app that will allow you to loan your bitcoins out with interest based on a borrower's credit score. Your money should be working for you, making interest and dividends, not just sitting in your wallet.

Have a blockchain like app with multiple decentralized servers take deposits. Then, this app will make loans with interest based on credit scores. The app will then pay the depositors interest minus a reasonable fee for the people running the servers. This would act as a bank without the crazy banking fees and our taxes being given away to "bail out" shitty banksters that will only use the money to throw fancy parites with hookers and champagne! Computer servers don't need hookers and champagne.

There should be automated apps that take the place of all financial services which are currently run by corrupt banksters and lawyers.


That's a good idea.

I'm inclined to say it's not.  Lending at interest with a finite monetary supply will only encourage fractional reserve practices.  Bitcoin's economy at its core is not debt-based like the fiat world.  Imagine if Satoshi, after mining the first BTC50, had immediately lent out those coins with a 5% interest rate.  This means there would be BTC52.5 to pay back.  Where does the person he lent them to get the extra BTC2.5 from?  It didn't exist until the next block was mined.  I've never been a great fan of religion, but the one thing they used to get right (but sadly don't care about it anymore) is that they made it clear that usury was morally questionable.

Ok. Not bad. So in a bitcoin world there will be no such thing as interest?

Oh I'm sure there will be, it's pretty much inevitable.  There's nothing that prevents people from charging interest, so it's only natural that people will give in to greed and do exactly that.  They're probably already doing it right now.  It just kinda goes against the ethos of the whole thing (in my opinion at least).  As soon as you introduce debt in a system with a finite monetary supply, you are essentially guaranteeing that someone, somewhere, will be unable to repay because there isn't enough money actually existing in the system to cover the interest.  People will do just about anything to turn a profit, even if it means screwing someone else over.
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I'm just not so sure it would be useful at all in an emergency situation.

BUT, the idea of having a wallet that you can access ANYWHERE in the world with just an internet connection and a computer/smartphone is a very cool idea.
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The biggest problem right now is just people not being able to hold the price, i thought 300 was going to be our new floor but go figure a lot of manipulation just pushing the market down lets just bully the price.
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Slow confirmation times!
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No peer to peer banking app. If my programming time isn't already 100 percent occupied with other projects already, I'd code one. It seems to me that it is a waste of bitcoins to have it just sit in your wallet all the time. You should have a banking app that will allow you to loan your bitcoins out with interest based on a borrower's credit score. Your money should be working for you, making interest and dividends, not just sitting in your wallet.

Have a blockchain like app with multiple decentralized servers take deposits. Then, this app will make loans with interest based on credit scores. The app will then pay the depositors interest minus a reasonable fee for the people running the servers. This would act as a bank without the crazy banking fees and our taxes being given away to "bail out" shitty banksters that will only use the money to throw fancy parites with hookers and champagne! Computer servers don't need hookers and champagne.

There should be automated apps that take the place of all financial services which are currently run by corrupt banksters and lawyers.


That's a good idea.

I'm inclined to say it's not.  Lending at interest with a finite monetary supply will only encourage fractional reserve practices.  Bitcoin's economy at its core is not debt-based like the fiat world.  Imagine if Satoshi, after mining the first BTC50, had immediately lent out those coins with a 5% interest rate.  This means there would be BTC52.5 to pay back.  Where does the person he lent them to get the extra BTC2.5 from?  It didn't exist until the next block was mined.  I've never been a great fan of religion, but the one thing they used to get right (but sadly don't care about it anymore) is that they made it clear that usury was morally questionable.

Ok. Not bad. So in a bitcoin world there will be no such thing as interest?
legendary
Activity: 3948
Merit: 3191
Leave no FUD unchallenged
No peer to peer banking app. If my programming time isn't already 100 percent occupied with other projects already, I'd code one. It seems to me that it is a waste of bitcoins to have it just sit in your wallet all the time. You should have a banking app that will allow you to loan your bitcoins out with interest based on a borrower's credit score. Your money should be working for you, making interest and dividends, not just sitting in your wallet.

Have a blockchain like app with multiple decentralized servers take deposits. Then, this app will make loans with interest based on credit scores. The app will then pay the depositors interest minus a reasonable fee for the people running the servers. This would act as a bank without the crazy banking fees and our taxes being given away to "bail out" shitty banksters that will only use the money to throw fancy parites with hookers and champagne! Computer servers don't need hookers and champagne.

There should be automated apps that take the place of all financial services which are currently run by corrupt banksters and lawyers.


That's a good idea.

I'm inclined to say it's not.  Lending at interest with a finite monetary supply will only encourage fractional reserve practices.  Bitcoin's economy at its core is not debt-based like the fiat world.  Imagine if Satoshi, after mining the first BTC50, had immediately lent out those coins with a 5% interest rate.  This means there would be BTC52.5 to pay back.  Where does the person he lent them to get the extra BTC2.5 from?  It didn't exist until the next block was mined.  I've never been a great fan of religion, but the one thing they used to get right (but sadly don't care about it anymore) is that they made it clear that usury was morally questionable.
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My biggest problem with bitcoin, or my biggest fear is that one day any early miners decide to convert its btc in fiat, and the market of bitcoin will go to hell
newbie
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No peer to peer banking app. If my programming time isn't already 100 percent occupied with other projects already, I'd code one. It seems to me that it is a waste of bitcoins to have it just sit in your wallet all the time. You should have a banking app that will allow you to loan your bitcoins out with interest based on a borrower's credit score. Your money should be working for you, making interest and dividends, not just sitting in your wallet.

Have a blockchain like app with multiple decentralized servers take deposits. Then, this app will make loans with interest based on credit scores. The app will then pay the depositors interest minus a reasonable fee for the people running the servers. This would act as a bank without the crazy banking fees and our taxes being given away to "bail out" shitty banksters that will only use the money to throw fancy parites with hookers and champagne! Computer servers don't need hookers and champagne.

There should be automated apps that take the place of all financial services which are currently run by corrupt banksters and lawyers.


That's a good idea.
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volatile price of bitcoin is a major problem for business.
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https://web.archive.org/web/*/nogleg.com
ppl that want to keep block size at 1MB and also somehow allow microtransactions
legendary
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My biggest problem when I get bitcoin quite a lot and I am confused how to multiply it, and then my friend suggested hyip investment and that time I did not really know. then I invest all my bitcoin, and one day later the website can not be accessed and scam  Cry

i am sorry to hear that.
but it doesn't matter where you have invested because you invested your money (bitcoin) in something without any prior knowledge.
the thing is, every kind of investment has its own risks and rewards. it is up to you to do some research before investing your money into anything , no matter what it is.

yeah it was the worst experience, then I feel very sad inconceivable enough money lost.
but now I have learned from experience, and already knew about the dangerous investment
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