I think there should be some kind of test 'due diligence'
There already are, and can stop exactly zero criminals from getting guns.
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There already are, and can stop exactly zero criminals from getting guns.
I think there should be some kind of test 'due diligence'
Aside from this dude's Tig welding technique being pretty poor...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6UneNt1LWc
....I would prefer his hat...
OMFG! A guy can get decent work with shitty technique. Not this dude. I would not be proud of this weld working on the blind side of a muffler lying on my back under a car and using a torch. The result was seriously embarrassing, and especially with TIG. I had problems for a little while since I was habituated to moving the torch in and out to modulate temp from oxy-acetylene welding. When I got past that I found it fairly easy to get beautiful work on mild steel. Dirty aluminum castings, not so much. (It's amazing how most aluminum casting is like a piece of swiss cheese when one starts to melt into it with TIG.)
Worked perfectly.
But this dude, I'm not even sure he knows what he's doing with his furnace.....
Aside from this dude's Tig welding technique being pretty poor...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6UneNt1LWc
....I would prefer his hat...
OMFG! A guy can get decent work with shitty technique. Not this dude. I would not be proud of this weld working on the blind side of a muffler lying on my back under a car and using a torch. The result was seriously embarrassing, and especially with TIG. I had problems for a little while since I was habituated to moving the torch in and out to modulate temp from oxy-acetylene welding. When I got past that I found it fairly easy to get beautiful work on mild steel. Dirty aluminum castings, not so much. (It's amazing how most aluminum casting is like a piece of swiss cheese when one starts to melt into it with TIG.)
California Law Allowing Seizure Of Guns Without Notification, If ‘Potential For Violence’, Begins January 1, 2016…
Gun-safety legislation going into effect in California next week will allow authorities to seize a person’s weapons for 21 days if a judge determines there’s potential for violence.
Proposed in the wake of a deadly May 2014 shooting rampage by Elliot Rodger, the bill provides family members with a means of having an emergency “gun violence restraining order” imposed against a loved one if they can convince a judge that allowing that person to possess a firearm “poses an immediate and present danger of causing personal injury to himself, herself or another by having in his or her custody or control.”
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/dec/29/california-gun-violence-restraining-order-law-goin/
How are they going to take the gun away from you? Ask you to hand it over nice-like? Throw a tantrum when you don't hand it over? No. They will use gun violence to stop you from what? Carrying a gun?
Folks who know what to do have the chance to make a lot of money off taxpayers if their property is stolen from them by government and cops.
California Law Allowing Seizure Of Guns Without Notification, If ‘Potential For Violence’, Begins January 1, 2016…
Gun-safety legislation going into effect in California next week will allow authorities to seize a person’s weapons for 21 days if a judge determines there’s potential for violence.
Proposed in the wake of a deadly May 2014 shooting rampage by Elliot Rodger, the bill provides family members with a means of having an emergency “gun violence restraining order” imposed against a loved one if they can convince a judge that allowing that person to possess a firearm “poses an immediate and present danger of causing personal injury to himself, herself or another by having in his or her custody or control.”
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/dec/29/california-gun-violence-restraining-order-law-goin/
Not bad... Not bad... I just feel like I may have to wear this while shooting it
http://postimg.org/image/bqnnrr4zz/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6UneNt1LWc
....I would prefer his hat...
100%
About your poll question
I want to vote on the gun control poll, but I don’t understand the way it’s worded. I AM TOTALLY OPPOSED TO GUN CONTROL so should I vote “yes” or “no?” I don’t know how Congress feels. It would have been better if the question was “are you against gun control?”
—Jean Monfort via Facebook
[Editor’s note: Congress has the authority to make laws regarding gun control, which is why the question was formulated that way. So if you oppose gun control, you would vote “no” in the poll.]
I want to vote on the gun control poll, but I don’t understand the way it’s worded. I AM TOTALLY OPPOSED TO GUN CONTROL so should I vote “yes” or “no?” I don’t know how Congress feels. It would have been better if the question was “are you against gun control?”
—Jean Monfort via Facebook
[Editor’s note: Congress has the authority to make laws regarding gun control, which is why the question was formulated that way. So if you oppose gun control, you would vote “no” in the poll.]
Editor, fact-check thyself.
Not bad... Not bad... I just feel like I may have to wear this while shooting it
http://postimg.org/image/bqnnrr4zz/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6UneNt1LWc
....I would prefer his hat...
...
Not only do I agree with the bolded above, but I imagine most of those in law enforcement would agree. Yes we have a modern problem, that mostly did not exist in the past, with the five minutes of fame atrocity killers, but they are a needle in the haystack of gun owners.
Nothing, and in particular no system designed of rules, regulation and law, is perfect, and that includes firearms law and regulation.
You do indeed wonder, as the Left incessantly hammers the gun control issue, whether the real goal is indeed something else entirely. Whether the goal may just be to eliminate the "tool of last resort against tyranny," even if those on the Left who do this may not even know what they do or why.
Most of those on the left have no idea what is going on. They are influenced heavily by the propaganda which targets them just as anyone else. Most of them feel that they are being good people and getting karma points by supporting things which are peaceful and non-violent. I suspect that psychologically this serves to paper over and push down genuine and fully human aspects of their personalities which run counter to who they wish to be.
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You (Spendulus) seem to attempt with reasonable success to take a scientific approach to reality. You probably reject outright the suggestion that there is an observable genetic drift component to some of the recent health trends afflicting the younger population. It simply does not make sense scientifically.
I propose that a 6x increase in 'active shooters' during the the term of President Obama similarly does not pass the smell test in social science terms. Coupled with such things as:
- the 'modernization' of the Smith-Mundt act
- the ability for legal advisers working for the executive to make amazing interpretations of law to support policy (e.g., John Yoo)
- the corporate consolidation of mainstream media and the working relationships between corp/gov in this respect,
- the fairly staggering observations made by independent analysts (aka, 'conspiracy theorists')
- Obama's admitted focus on gun control which dates back to early in his term (prior to most of the events.)
I suggest that it is perfectly possible that a lot of the 'problems' we've seen in the last few years have been state sponsored psychological operations. To me it is simply not very unthinkable, especially with an eye toward historical events in the same vein, and is at present time the most rationally coherent read of reality. In scientific terms, the hypothesis has the highest explanatory power as I read things.
I do believe it most likely that we are seeing a lot of psychological operations permeating our social awareness. Beyond that, I suspect that more than a few people on the political Left believe this to be going on as well but they consider it to be a means to an end that they agree with. For my part, I believe that the likely end-point is not at all what they are expecting or will find themselves agreeing with. These people are being played as much as any other group. Perhaps more.
After the incident, federal government and mass media worked hand in hand to whip up anti-Cop, anti-White, etc, sentiments across the country. Building completely on a lie (that a wrong occurred) they did this. By building on a complete lie they knowingly whip up cognitive dissidence in the population segments being manipulated (eg, black communities, and Leftish interest segments).
The only outcome of this could be further radicalization of population segments and possible inducement of some members to engage in violent acts. In this sense, one could say that Obama with his promulgated statements and policies, has a responsiblity for the increased incidence of violence.
Let me go a step further. Consider an already radicalized Muslim person, who not uncommonly reads the Left propaganda streams (such as includes the Ferguson incident and slanted views on it). It's not unreasonable that such things being pushed on the public could further radicalize persons and be a factor in their moving over the line into violent behavior.
The interesting thing about all this is, in America, the majority of people go on with their lives... rather peacefully. Consider that all the stores are open for business. You can jump in the car and drive.
Look how big the prisons are, full of all kinds of unwanted people. If people become too radical, both cops and the people they pester, there's a lot more room for a lot more prisons. And the peaceful people will build the prisons if necessary, and send the radicals there if necessary.
Not bad... Not bad... I just feel like I may have to wear this while shooting it
http://postimg.org/image/bqnnrr4zz/
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Not only do I agree with the bolded above, but I imagine most of those in law enforcement would agree. Yes we have a modern problem, that mostly did not exist in the past, with the five minutes of fame atrocity killers, but they are a needle in the haystack of gun owners.
Nothing, and in particular no system designed of rules, regulation and law, is perfect, and that includes firearms law and regulation.
You do indeed wonder, as the Left incessantly hammers the gun control issue, whether the real goal is indeed something else entirely. Whether the goal may just be to eliminate the "tool of last resort against tyranny," even if those on the Left who do this may not even know what they do or why.
Most of those on the left have no idea what is going on. They are influenced heavily by the propaganda which targets them just as anyone else. Most of them feel that they are being good people and getting karma points by supporting things which are peaceful and non-violent. I suspect that psychologically this serves to paper over and push down genuine and fully human aspects of their personalities which run counter to who they wish to be.
---
You (Spendulus) seem to attempt with reasonable success to take a scientific approach to reality. You probably reject outright the suggestion that there is an observable genetic drift component to some of the recent health trends afflicting the younger population. It simply does not make sense scientifically.
I propose that a 6x increase in 'active shooters' during the the term of President Obama similarly does not pass the smell test in social science terms. Coupled with such things as:
- the 'modernization' of the Smith-Mundt act
- the ability for legal advisers working for the executive to make amazing interpretations of law to support policy (e.g., John Yoo)
- the corporate consolidation of mainstream media and the working relationships between corp/gov in this respect,
- the fairly staggering observations made by independent analysts (aka, 'conspiracy theorists')
- Obama's admitted focus on gun control which dates back to early in his term (prior to most of the events.)
I suggest that it is perfectly possible that a lot of the 'problems' we've seen in the last few years have been state sponsored psychological operations. To me it is simply not very unthinkable, especially with an eye toward historical events in the same vein, and is at present time the most rationally coherent read of reality. In scientific terms, the hypothesis has the highest explanatory power as I read things.
I do believe it most likely that we are seeing a lot of psychological operations permeating our social awareness. Beyond that, I suspect that more than a few people on the political Left believe this to be going on as well but they consider it to be a means to an end that they agree with. For my part, I believe that the likely end-point is not at all what they are expecting or will find themselves agreeing with. These people are being played as much as any other group. Perhaps more.
After the incident, federal government and mass media worked hand in hand to whip up anti-Cop, anti-White, etc, sentiments across the country. Building completely on a lie (that a wrong occurred) they did this. By building on a complete lie they knowingly whip up cognitive dissidence in the population segments being manipulated (eg, black communities, and Leftish interest segments).
The only outcome of this could be further radicalization of population segments and possible inducement of some members to engage in violent acts. In this sense, one could say that Obama with his promulgated statements and policies, has a responsiblity for the increased incidence of violence.
Let me go a step further. Consider an already radicalized Muslim person, who not uncommonly reads the Left propaganda streams (such as includes the Ferguson incident and slanted views on it). It's not unreasonable that such things being pushed on the public could further radicalize persons and be a factor in their moving over the line into violent behavior.
...
Not only do I agree with the bolded above, but I imagine most of those in law enforcement would agree. Yes we have a modern problem, that mostly did not exist in the past, with the five minutes of fame atrocity killers, but they are a needle in the haystack of gun owners.
Nothing, and in particular no system designed of rules, regulation and law, is perfect, and that includes firearms law and regulation.
You do indeed wonder, as the Left incessantly hammers the gun control issue, whether the real goal is indeed something else entirely. Whether the goal may just be to eliminate the "tool of last resort against tyranny," even if those on the Left who do this may not even know what they do or why.
Most of those on the left have no idea what is going on. They are influenced heavily by the propaganda which targets them just as anyone else. Most of them feel that they are being good people and getting karma points by supporting things which are peaceful and non-violent. I suspect that psychologically this serves to paper over and push down genuine and fully human aspects of their personalities which run counter to who they wish to be.
---
You (Spendulus) seem to attempt with reasonable success to take a scientific approach to reality. You probably reject outright the suggestion that there is an observable genetic drift component to some of the recent health trends afflicting the younger population. It simply does not make sense scientifically.
I propose that a 6x increase in 'active shooters' during the the term of President Obama similarly does not pass the smell test in social science terms. Coupled with such things as:
- the 'modernization' of the Smith-Mundt act
- the ability for legal advisers working for the executive to make amazing interpretations of law to support policy (e.g., John Yoo)
- the corporate consolidation of mainstream media and the working relationships between corp/gov in this respect,
- the fairly staggering observations made by independent analysts (aka, 'conspiracy theorists')
- Obama's admitted focus on gun control which dates back to early in his term (prior to most of the events.)
I suggest that it is perfectly possible that a lot of the 'problems' we've seen in the last few years have been state sponsored psychological operations. To me it is simply not very unthinkable, especially with an eye toward historical events in the same vein, and is at present time the most rationally coherent read of reality. In scientific terms, the hypothesis has the highest explanatory power as I read things.
I do believe it most likely that we are seeing a lot of psychological operations permeating our social awareness. Beyond that, I suspect that more than a few people on the political Left believe this to be going on as well but they consider it to be a means to an end that they agree with. For my part, I believe that the likely end-point is not at all what they are expecting or will find themselves agreeing with. These people are being played as much as any other group. Perhaps more.
I totally agree. Gun Control is the need of the hour. How many more innocent lives are we willing to sacrifice? Young kids are getting killed every now and than bez of the misuse of protection law. Its a time to have a strict and strong law to control this menace.
Yes, that's totally brilliant. You need a law to tell criminals to not be criminals so that criminals will not be criminals. At the very least you could have a law that criminals must wait 5 minutes after breaking into a house before they start robbing it. And they must wait 10 minutes after seizing a woman before raping her.
This would give the cops time to arrive and arrest the criminals.
Criminals will always have guns, regardless of the law. The innocent lives taken are taken by crime. We are heading towards a totalitarian state and taking away gun rights will get us into deep shit.
One woman obeyed a bad law, to not carry, and that got her family killed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9FzMnwrPEk
Guns are like fire extinguishers. Sure you hope there won't be a fire. But you definitely want a couple fire extinguishers to put fires out. Nobody depends on waiting until the fire engines arrive.
I totally agree. Gun Control is the need of the hour. How many more innocent lives are we willing to sacrifice? Young kids are getting killed every now and than bez of the misuse of protection law. Its a time to have a strict and strong law to control this menace.
Yes, that's totally brilliant. You need a law to tell criminals to not be criminals so that criminals will not be criminals. At the very least you could have a law that criminals must wait 5 minutes after breaking into a house before they start robbing it. And they must wait 10 minutes after seizing a woman before raping her.
This would give the cops time to arrive and arrest the criminals.
Criminals will always have guns, regardless of the law. The innocent lives taken are taken by crime. We are heading towards a totalitarian state and taking away gun rights will get us into deep shit.
I totally agree. Gun Control is the need of the hour. How many more innocent lives are we willing to sacrifice? Young kids are getting killed every now and than bez of the misuse of protection law. Its a time to have a strict and strong law to control this menace.
Yes, that's totally brilliant. You need a law to tell criminals to not be criminals so that criminals will not be criminals. At the very least you could have a law that criminals must wait 5 minutes after breaking into a house before they start robbing it. And they must wait 10 minutes after seizing a woman before raping her.
This would give the cops time to arrive and arrest the criminals.
I totally agree. Gun Control is the need of the hour. How many more innocent lives are we willing to sacrifice? Young kids are getting killed every now and than bez of the misuse of protection law. Its a time to have a strict and strong law to control this menace.
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