Topic: What's your opinion of gun control? - page 179. (Read 450551 times)

Gun control need to happen. You can't give  any kind of gun to anyone, there need to be some sort requirements met if you want to buy a gun.
Idealistically it will be good idea that before receiving gun you had to complete some sort of course where you will learn how to handle it.

tl;dr Don't give guns to anyone

The world will be better place if there's no guns/wars. My point of view about guns/wars is this. We use natural resources wrong way.

Gonna have to ponder that one...

BLACK, GAY REPORTER MURDERS STRAIGHT, WHITE JOURNALISTS — MEDIA BLAME THE GUN


On Wednesday, America met a deeply evil human being: Vester Lee Flanagan II, also known as reporter Bryce Williams.

Williams murdered two people while they were live on air on WDBJ in Virginia: reporter Alison Parker, and cameraman Adam Ward. After the murders, he went on the run – and while he was on the run, he tweeted out his rationale for the killings, accusing Parker of making “racist comments” and Ward of going “to hr on me after working with me one time!!!” He then posted video to his Facebook and Twitter pages of himself shooting both at point-blank range.

Williams is black. Parker and Ward were white.

Williams is gay. Parker and Ward were straight.

None of which would be relevant, except that Williams specifically cited his identity as a factor in the killings. In a 23-page rambling letter sent to ABC News, Williams wrote that the Charleston church shooting in June should have provoked a race war: “Why did I do it? I put a deposit for a gun on 6/19/15. The Church shooting in Charleston happened on 6/17/15…What sent me over the top was the church shooting…You want a race war (deleted)? BRING IT THEN YOU WHITE …(deleted)!!!” According to ABC News, he claimed he had “suffered racial discrimination, sexual harassment and bullying at work,” that he had “been attacked by black men and white females,” and that he had been “attacked for being a gay, black man.”

Williams marinated in his self-appointed victimhood status. He filed a lawsuit against his Tallahassee, Florida employer, WTWC – a lawsuit settled out of court. He filed a complaint with the with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission against WDBJ after his firing – a complaint the EEOC dismissed. According to WDBJ station manager Jeff Marks, Williams was “an unhappy man” with a “reputation as someone who had been difficult to work with… looking out for people to say things that he could take offense to.”

Had a white straight man killed a black gay man, released first-person tape of the shooting, and then unleashed a manifesto about being victimized by affirmative action and anti-religious bigotry from homosexuals, the media would never stop covering the story. They’d be eager to report that shooter’s motives with all the attendant politically correct hullaballoo about the racism and homophobia of the United States more broadly. We would hear about white supremacy (reprehensible Black Lives Matter leader Deray McKesson actually jumped the gun, thinking the shooter was white, and tweeted, “Whiteness will explain away nearly anything”).

We would hear excoriations of the Republican presidential candidates for their failures to stand with the Black Lives Matter movement–and their opposition to same-sex marriage. In similar circumstances, the entire political and media establishment determined that the Confederate flag was somehow to blame for Dylan Storm Roof’s brutal slaying of nine people at a historically black church; just last week, the media tried to blame Donald Trump’s anti-immigration stance for two thugs beating up a Hispanic homeless man in Boston.

But Bryce Williams’ self-described victim status, even while murdering innocents, will merit no rethinking of the divisive politics in which he apparently bathed. We won’t have a conversation about whether pushing a perennial picture of victimhood for blacks and gays in the most black-friendly, gay-friendly country on the planet could drive supposed victims to violence. We won’t talk about whether the Democratic Party’s takeover by the Black Lives Matter crew has encouraged some people to believe that only black lives matter, since only black lives are in danger – and even then, only some black lives matter, namely those killed by white people. Instead, we will be assured that Bryce Williams is an outlier by the same people who blamed Sarah Palin for Jared Lee Loughner shooting Gabrielle Giffords.

It is true that statistical outliers should not be used to club entire movements into submission. But leftists protesting at the linkage between Williams and their favored political causes have no ground on which to stand – they consistently blame conservatives for outlier events with no statistical basis. Moreover, Williams’ violence is part of a larger trend, not of black men killing white people (that still happens disproportionately, but the numbers are down), but of black men using supposed American racism as a rationale for violence more generally, and of gay people using supposed American homophobia as a rationale for violation of others’ rights.

Some in the media are actually going beyond delinking Williams from his politics – they’re defending Williams’ perverse worldview, questioning whether evil, racist, homophobic America created him. Columnist WonderWomanist at Gawker wrote, “I can understand him being frustrated with racial discrimination at his job but it was not worth throwing his life over… RIP to the victims even though they may have been racist.”

Kay Steiger at ThinkProgress took Williams’ self-serving narrative at face value: “One part of the document included the phrase ‘Suicide Note for Friends and Family’ and detailed discrimination he experienced as a gay, black man.”

But most of the the media will swivel to gun control, following the lead of the White House and Hillary Clinton, both of whom called for heavier gun control laws – even as both push for the release of criminals from prisons, a crackdown on law enforcement, and a racially divisive narrative of the country pitting black against white, all for political gain.

All of these policies will do nothing to stop Bryce Williamses — in fact, they will make Bryce Williamses more common. Teaching Americans that they aren’t victims would be a great way of battling evil – most victims aren’t evil, but virtually all evil people think they are victims, and thus justify their violence. But teaching Americans that they aren’t victims would undercut the Democratic message that all minorities are victims, and thus require bigger government. And that message, and its attendant political success, must take precedence over the building of a more inclusive, more understanding country.


http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/08/26/black-gay-reporter-murders-straight-white-journalists-media-blame-the-gun/

I believe for US there's a historical reason to keep a population with guns; the WW 1 telegram where Germany offered support for Mexico to invade the US in an attempt to divert US away of coming to Europe. The fact that most of Americans had guns worked as a "no way, thanks" from the Mexicans.

One of my all-time favorites.  Apologies if it's been posted here before.

Just curious. When you are stopped from owning a gun (except if you work in security), how do they stop you?

Do they stop you with swords?
Do they stop you with knives?
Do they stop you with clubs?
Baseball bats?
Poison your food?
Are they karate and kung fu experts?
Do they overwhelm you with superior numbers, even though many of them die?
Do they stop you by running you down with a car?
Do they simply stare you down?

Perhaps you and everybody else are so obedient to law that you simply obey their declaration of the law that nobody (except if you work in security) gets to have a gun.

I'd really like to know.

Is it that they are organized and nobody else knows how to organize?

Do they use guns to stop you? If so, why can't you just use guns to stop them?

I´m against it, for ethical and practical reasons. Everyone should have the right to be able to at the very least try to defend himself and it´s not possible without firearms.

In my country it is not allowed to own a gun except if you work in security ,
I think it should be allowed for self defense as maybe the person be in a situation that needs it

Guys, now here is an example of poor gun control, just the sort of thing we are looking to avoid!!

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/05/04/00/2843CE2500000578-3066540-Father_of_one_Romario_Dos_Santos_Alves_25_risked_his_life_by_inj-a-52_1430694336480.jpg

South America does have real problems we can see...✌️

http://americangunfacts.com/

What I'd like to see is a map of the USA that showed concealed carry vs. mass killings.

Where there is concealed carry, are there or are there not mass killings?

That's about all we need to know to shut the topic of "gun control" down.  The reason is that a concealed carry permit and proximity to the event is all a person needs to shut down a mass killing.

Duh..

But given that reality, the more interesting question is ...

"Does concealed carry PREVENT a crazy from attempting a mass killing?"

Prevention is better than cure.

AMMO


AMMO


AMMO!

"On topic" has to do with taking aim.

 

I don't think he's that 'Showbiz'

He says he lives in the UK so it's probably all about knives there! 🔪🔪🔪


Back on topic,

GUNS


GUNS


GUNS!

He's a funny guy. Does he use security guards with guns or is he not famous enough to have them?

 

http://youtu.be/HTyQ4Q8z-D8

Aussie comedian makes things pretty clear..

You are right with regard to the state of affairs as it exists right now. However, people should be brought into greater gun freedom in America slowly, so that they learn respect of guns and respect of other people, as well.

I don't like the idea of having a gun battle with anyone. And I don't want to be injured, or to die. But I would rather have a fighting chance against a crazy person (who can get a gun if he really wants) than not having a chance.

If we all had guns and carried them openly, the attitude and face of the country would change. Some of us might die in gun battles with the crazies. But some of us would live in those battles, because we had guns to protect ourselves. Once the crazy people were dead, we would have a nice, respectful America.

If we don't have guns, the crazies in government will direct the crazies in the military to enslave us all, and there will be no freedom. There is little enough freedom as it is.

Would it be safer for the government to declare everyone crazy at birth, until it is proven otherwise by professional psychologist civil servants, so you could own a gun? We would live in a perfect world with no need for gun control laws. Psychologists, psychiatrists and pharmaceutical experts would tell us how to live our lives around guns, or any objects that could become a potential weapon...


Isn't this the perfect definition of Heaven? Who has some SOMA left?

The point is, nobody needs guns to kill. In fact, guns are protective devices that people can use to protect themselves when threatened.

Guns are convenient. That's why, if the general populace is deprived of guns, we will get a dictatorship, because those in power and their militaries will still have guns.

The only reason countries that have outlawed guns still have freedom for their people is, Americans have gun freedom. If there wasn't at least one big country that had gun freedom, the dictators of the world would take over the people of the whole world. As it is, people can look at the gun freedom in America and see the other freedoms that come because of it. Thus they are encouraged against their dictators by American gun freedom.

American gun freedom is keeping the world free. We in America need MORE gun freedom.