Topic: What's your opinion of gun control? - page 176. (Read 450471 times)

Do the test then. Criminals don't bother waiting for a license or do a "clean mind" test.

Don't worry, I have already one, with plenty of guns  . I have a preference for rifles, but handguns are cool too ! However with an hunting license, you can only have .22LR handguns   ! To have something more powerful, you have to apply at the Town Hall. Then an analysis is done from three weeks to a few monthes to know if you have a "clean" mind. Then you can freely buy up to 12 "B category" guns (which contains handguns and assault rifle like AK-47s). 12 is not a lot  ...

Get a hunting license.

Here, in France, the gun control laws are quite restrictives. Also medias are spreading the idea that it is impossible to get a gun, while it's not so hard if you don't want something too powerful or too recent (Sovietics snipers are easy to get with an hunting license).

DEVELOPING -- Police in Oregon responded to a report of a shooting on campus at Umpqua Community College in Roseburg, at 10:30 a.m. local time.

There are unconfirmed reports of multiple dead and multiple injured.

There is "no longer a threat," according to a Douglas County Sheriff's Dept. spokesperson, citing dispatchers. The spokesperson said multiple assets were on site and EMS is on the scene.

The ATF said on Twitter that it had special agents on the scene.

A local fire department tweeted earlier that there was an "active shooter" and for people to "please stay away from the area."

Roseburg is a city of about 22,000 people located about 70 miles south of Eugene and about 180 miles south of Portland.

Umpqua Community College has about 3,000 students. Its website was down Thursday, and a phone message left at the school wasn't immediately returned.


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/10/01/oregon-cops-respond-to-report-shooter-at-community-college/

The last gun shop in San Francisco shuts down in face of new regulations



Next month will mark the end of an era in San Francisco as the city’s sole remaining gun shop closes its doors. High Bridge Arms has been in business at the same location since the 1950s, but with the next round of city regulations and restrictions on gun dealers (which means just High Bridge) the city fathers have found the straw required to break the camel’s back. It’s a glorious day for liberals. (Fox News)

Business for the last gun shop in the city of 840,000 has been good, according to Alcairo, especially since the store, which caters to law enforcement and outdoors enthusiasts, announced it would close next month.

Situated in the prominent city heart of Mission Street, High Bridge Arms was founded in the mid-1950s by Bob Chow, who competed in the 1948 Olympics 25-yard pistol shooting event. By some accounts a Bay Area institution, it has long been a tourist destination – specially for members of the law enforcement community who visit the city.

“I found the staff to be friendly, decent, law-abiding people who have been harassed by the San Francisco anti-gun crowd for quite some time,” Jim Wilson, a retired sheriff from Alpine, Texas, told FoxNews.com as he recalled stopping by the shop during a visit to San Francisco a few years back.


The new city laws were so far over the top that it’s difficult to imagine them surviving a court challenge, but the owners apparently don’t feel like converting their entire operation into little more than a legal defense fund to keep fighting the liberal legislature. They were going to force them to record videos of every customer in the store and keep those videos available permanently. The personal information of every customer would have to be turned over to the police department each and every week even if there wasn’t a hint of an allegation that any crime had taken place. In short, the rules were designed to force the shop to harass their own customers mercilessly to the point where no reasonable person would want to shop there anyway.

As the general manager viewed it, the writing was on the wall.

“This time, it’s the idea of filming our customers taking delivery of items after they already completed waiting periods,” Alcairo said. “We feel this is a tactic designed to discourage customers from coming to us.

“This year, it’s this and next year will probably be something else,” Alcairo added. “We don’t want to wait for it.”


The reason this is such a huge victory for the Left is that they’ve finally found an escape hatch to go around the courts and the Second Amendment. They were unable to flatly make guns illegal or to order the closure of a legally operated business, but with one strike after another they were able to finally harass them into closing. The real world effect is negligible, of course, since law abiding gun owners can still go somewhere else to purchase their guns, but it’s still a “moral” victory in terms of driving the evil gun shop out of their peace loving neighborhood.



And hey… it’s not like San Francisco is full of crime to the point where citizens would need to arm themselves, right?





The Sanctuary City is sending a clear message to the gun shop owners and an even clearer message to criminals and illegal immigrants. Feel free to stop by! We don’t sell any guns to your prospective victims!



The San Francisco Police Department should simply close up shop and leave these people to the fate they so richly deserve.



http://hotair.com/archives/2015/09/27/the-last-gun-shop-in-san-francisco-shuts-down-in-face-of-new-regulations/

Witless for the Prosecution: New York DA Forces Staff to Forgo Second Amendment Rights


Madeline Singas, Acting District Attorney for Nassau County, New York, is a hypocrite. Worse, she is willing to gamble with the lives and safety of her staff and their families for her own perceived political benefit. While claiming “a commitment to justice, compassion, and integrity” and boasting about keeping “more vulnerable people safe,” she enforces a policy of mandatory disarmament amongst the attorneys who put their own safety on the line to administer justice in her jurisdiction. On Monday, Prof. Eugene Volokh broke the story that the Nassau County District Attorney’s Office bars prosecutors from having handguns, even at home.

Prosecutors, considered the top law enforcement officials of their jurisdictions, take an oath to defend and uphold the Constitution of the United States of America. They are invested with great public trust, making decisions that profoundly affect the life, liberty, and property of the residents of their jurisdictions, decisions that can increase or decrease the public’s respect for the justice system and the rule of law. The system can only work if they take that oath seriously.


https://www.nraila.org/articles/20150925/witless-for-the-prosecution-new-york-da-forces-staff-to-forgo-second-amendment-rights

It's possible the "illegal guns" ARE being used more and more by victims (who rarely have to fire a shot once their own gun is seen by their assailant), yet in violation of "gun control" laws that infringe the fundamental human right to self-defense. If you were able to defend against a violent criminal by violating "gun control" without bloodshed, you would not then self-incriminate by reporting what happened to the police. Statistics≠omniscience.

Luckily these guns are not being used, at least in germany:

In the United States, especially in the Southern states, it is very easy to purchase an illegel fire-arm, partly due to the presence of various Mexican gangs. In the Europe, the situation is somewhat better. But during the past five years, an increase in the circulation of illegal guns have been reported from many of the countries, including the United Kingdom, France, and Italy.

Aaand the hypocritical gun nuts are still at it....

Law abiding citizens [waa waa waa ]

But why are guns even remotely relevant to your emotional well-being?

It's not emotion. It's practicality. It's to protect ourselves from government, abuses of power, and the law.

But you just said you're "LAW ABIDING" and now you're pissing on that "law" in the same fucking breath. Seriously, WTF dude?

Dincha hear me? We abide by it but we do not trust it or the people who run it. Government is a different breed of people. Ever heard of the Greys? It's the same with criminals. Criminals break the laws, which makes them extremely dangerous and unstoppable, except with guns in private hands of course, but us responsible gun owners abide by the law and that's what makes us responsible. You can totally trust us because we're law ABIDING, but we're not forcing you to trust anybody, because we're totally in favour of you just getting your own gun too. Heh.. I should work in sales!

Err...

And next week Ima gettin' ma 7 year old daughter a scaled-down AK47 made with lightweight titanium, and a gift-wrapped box of 1000 rounds.

Isn't that a kinda excessive?

Tell me about it. Them niche rounds cost almost as much as the gun. She's gonna be one lucky tyke! [Hic]

Rates of accidental injury and death from firearms are lower than for swimming pools or cars since no one is seriously discussing banning either of these

Exactly.  Gun control is hitting what you aim at.

All these peasants, speaking from the perspective of their multi-generational status as chattel property of a Sovereign, have been effectively bred for domesticated subservience.  Accordingly, they have as much use for the tools of self-defense (and tyranny resistance) as a typical factory-farmed chicken, pig, or sheep.

When they use code words like "gun control" it's really their dog whistle announcing 'let's all talk about there is no RKBA, regardless of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.'

Love that avatar. Great for depicting the confidence we need for putting down criminals in government.

Forget gun control, we need bullet control.

Right on. But the method for protecting, and who we are going to protect against, is the real question.

It seems that some of law enforcement, and some of the military, if you look at the record, are the ones that we need protecting from. Who is going to offer such protection? The government isn't, because it is the one that is direction law enforcement and the military to harm us. Until we find the one who will protect us, we need to protect ourselves. And the only way to do this effectively is to fight fire with fire, fight guns with guns.

killing is not a choice.. But protecting is a must.. For our own safety, its good for us.. But, for other thing, especially bad thing, its must be slow down..

No guns.   lol we would just find other way to kill people and people would complain about it.

And no military should be the only one to have gun.  Our constitution allows us to have gun for protection.   Not from each other but to defend ourselves against our own government.

Gun control is being able to hit what you shoot at.    lol

In an utopia, there should exist the widest range, variety and distribution of guns. Why? Because nobody would ever harm anyone else with the guns, and guns are great sport. Besides, target practice improves hand/eye coordination, so that people have better use of their faculties for every other purpose. In addition, scientific understanding of the processes that occur with gun usage can be found almost nowhere else; I mean, you wouldn't want to get rid of the game of pool/billiards, would you?