Topic: What's your opinion of gun control? - page 174. (Read 450482 times)

Actually I have known two, and the second one did own a chimp.  That's a far more complex story.

Anyway, it has zero to do with the current discussion. 

For the  benefit of those outside the USA, I will say this.  Believers in the second amendment and conceal carry crosses all the political spectrums in the USA. It's only seemingly a political issue at the top, where the media projects opinion and attitude out to the masses.  Or tries to.  Any political goes wacko anti-gun, he gets booted out in short order.  Obama's done it in stealth mode, lying to get elected and then showing his true colors.

But it's a sad and rather tragic thing with these perverted monster control freaks (anti-gun politicians) try to focus their control freakness on firearms.  Seems like that always turns out badly.

Towns in the Old West handled this on a practical basis.  You went in a bar, you left the guns at the door.

We need to get practical again.  Until the bastards pushing a simplified anti-gun agenda start vocalizing the issue of prescription psychoactive drugs and their various causative effects on crazed killings, there will be no improvement in the statistics.  I'm not optimistic.

I didn't exclusively "blame women."  I blamed the subset of gormless, objectively pro-authoritarian women and feminized men who have gone soft.  Obviously, the Temperance Movement (just like the Gun Grabbers today) involved plenty of such men.

I should have said 'feminine' instead of 'female' to make it absolutely clear I was referring to psychological mindset, not irrelevant biological particularities of sex/gender.


There, I improved my statement to not inadvertently include righteous gun-toting gals like yourself and Ann Barnhardt.

Happy now?  Maybe in the future, you could try reading others' writings in (charitable) ways that make the most sense, instead of parsing so as to maximize opportunity for offense.   

I am noticing.   See him all over the forum and he always has some good info or points to make.   

BADecker is such a wizard .

LoL   now I want a monkey.   Little golden Main or something small like you mentioned.   Emm.  A chimp would be way to heavy.  Would have to be a lion tamer or a golden maine.  They are pretty aggressive though fr being so small.   Lol

Any time someone says that I'm reminded of a guy I knew that had a pet monkey.  And it went out with him, and was literally around his neck.  Can't remember what kind, smaller than a chimp.

Well, so he carried daily.   And I guess if you messed with him, you messed with his monkey around his neck.

Would NOT want to see that think angry and coming your way....

Well said.   Im pro-gun.  Carry daily.   And no one will take that from me.   Otherwise I would consider them the monkey on my back.

Exactly right! However, the men have a little bit of an excuse... about not being MEN I mean. The excuse is the church. The church says that people are supposed to obey their government, and the good, church-going men simply don't think to ask: Who is my government? How did it get to be my government? Did my parents understand this stuff?

There are two ways in which people become part of a nation:
1. They agree to it and are accepted by the nation as one of its own;
2. They are forced into the nation and Stockholm Syndrome sets in.
That's it. There are no other ways. If one person asks questions, and another person says that the first person is part of the nation, perhaps there is some slave-making going on.

Guns are for putting down the slavers who don't obey the law that says no more slavery.

I encourage you all to consider how and why you are a part of the nation that you are a part of, be it a formal nation, or the temporary "nation" of the rapist trying to foist himself on you. And if it turns out that you never voluntarily wanted to be part, and that you don't want to be part now, get your guns, join with like-minded folks, and get the slavers off your back.

I find it funny that the woman I know (myself included) are arguing for us to keep our guns, and the men on this forum are arguing over us losing them, yet you blame women.

I would say blame the men who have gone soft and forgotten why we were allowed the right to own guns in the first place.

this civilian admin would not hesitate to kill american children to foster the agenda of it's financial master (gmos, nuke industry, vaccines, fracking, plant banned, growing to sell bodies of babies etc).

if I can't trust you with Arms, it means I can't trust you with anything. as such :


as such I defy anyone to come and take mine :

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btw I am or in the control room near the keys entry console or in the bar at the 47 floors near the jacuzzi... good luck to come near... it is on auto pilot (fire at will to any unidentified object).

Hard cases (boo hoo OREGON bluh bluh bluh bluh) make bad law, precisely because waving the bloody shirt (ZOMG THINK OF THE CHILDRENS) is a logical fallacy.

But you have fun casually (yet self-righteously) relinquishing the freedoms our Founding Fathers fought to enshrine in our Constitution.

Agitating to abandon a longstanding foundational cultural tradition (like RKBA) because of a singular emotionally traumatic event is a very female (and Marxist) reaction.  That's why we didn't let them vote until recently, and why everything has gone to shit since we did.

Wife beating?  Blame the inanimate Thing (booze) and ban alcohol!  Viva the Women's Temperance League!  Prohibition forever!  What could possibly go wrong?

Crazy off-his-meds and/or jihad guy massacre?  Blame the inanimate Thing (gun) and repeal the 2nd Amendment.

Let's just roll over and let a nice, strong tyranny have its way with our ovaries.  At least our precious offspring be Safe.  Better raped in safety than free and dead, right?

No.  No, no, no!

Fuck off to the kitchen and make me a sandwich.  You are not qualified participate in a serious discussion regarding matters of life and death.  Go watch the baby and nurture something.

Let me be clear.  Domesticated, servile, asinine people like you are the exact reason why democracy has failed.  People who don't own property/pay taxes, and have never been eligible for the draft, have no business voting.  It's a blatant conflict of interest.

Do not presume to impose your short-sighted, risk averse emotional responses on free, rational individuals.  Or you may be harmed in the attempt.

And this is exactly why criminals don't do this - use pencils or knives.

Criminals go out and get guns or make guns and then head for the school.

In a totally gun-free world, we wouldn't have guns to worry about. But now that guns have been invented, there will never be a gun-free world. There will only be those with guns, and those without them.

In addition, guns are an equalizer. A wimp might be able to stab someone with a knife. But a bully could stab someone over and over by holding him down and doing it. However, if the victim had a gun, the bully would be dead.

If both the bully and the victim had guns, there would be an equal chance that the bully would die. A gun is an equalizer. Instinctively, everyone knows this. Bullies go away when they see the victim has a gun. Bullies who are crazies will never go away, even in the face of a gun, except when they are shot.

So, having guns all around - open carry - is better for everyone, since guns aren't going away.

You can't kill "everyone" with a gun either unless you restrain them and/or have the ability to deny them medical care ad infinitum. The real-world lethality of pencils, knives, and guns, is probably equal, with proper machining, in trained hands, and against defenseless targets.

i live in the worst city for guns and drugs in the uk i know a few who have been shot dead..
but if they could buy them on the street corner shop loads more would die for sure ..were i live 13 year olds shoot each other ..but believe me if they could get them on every street corner shop loads more would die..
This is why i am asking to ban them but also we need a law where if you carry a gun you get 25 years for carrying it
and you never get out for shooting someone even if you don.t kill them you never get out of jail for shooting them ..
kids get 5 years they do 2 years in jail and there free no matter how many times they get caught with a gun they do 2 years..
how many will carry guns now..not many..
at the end of the day if no one had a gun then no one would get shot..
we need as a planet to make it law that in public life if your caught with a gun you get 25 years just for carrying it and you do the full 25 years not half all of it..
sounds harsh but having no gun in your life and i mean every ones life.. no one as a gun ..then what problem will it cause to not have one..A GUN IS TO KILL..if a young kid or old person carries a gun then is intentions is to kill..
no ifs or buts.. because if someone pulls a gun on you or tries to rob you your intention is to kill with that gun to protect yourself
So with my law not many will want to carry a gun because they loose 25 years of there life.
if i lived in America i would carry a gun only because so many got one i need one
But if you asked me if my country said total ban and 25 years in jail for carrying a gun or lets make it legal to own a gun i would say ban them..
this is the only way to stop the criminals to give hefty sentences for carrying a gun ..
if no one is allowed a gun and then you carry one then you broke the law so now you go to jail for 25 years because your intention was to kill ..
 av a nice day ..AND SORRY FOR BABBLING ON i think i need to give me head a wobble
i think i burnt my own head out there.
i am off

Yeah, some places I have been you WOULD carry legally.  Some places you'd carry even if illegally.  Best thing to do is simply move, of course, but that's not always possible.

But do me a favor and don't talk about how nice and safe the UK is.  It may be safe where you live, but some places you wouldn't come out alive....

Regardless, I view the UK as an experiment in gun control.  That's similar to some of the USA states being experiments in gun control/legal concealed carry.   We sure don't need people arguing one-size-fits-all on this issue.

From the "experiments," 20 years or so, it's definitely looking like legal ownership and concealed carry is safer for everyone.

when people have guns they think differently THEY FEEL POWERFUL ..
plus ask people from NY CITY as there city gone better now guns are banned.. answer yes much nicer place to live now..just checked and i am talking a load of pooo ..they banned guns years ago and its still bad well there you go i was wrong

Would you agree that as time goes on the less jobs there will be in the future?
If yes you agree..Then more madness will come..people loose the plot when there poor..
Think what having no job can do to a person
So believe me all these killings in schools will happen more and more plus shopping malls it will happen in..
plus what your saying is if everyone had a gun on them then they could of shot that person..
well if everyone had a gun on them more deaths would happen..
like this say i pull a gun on you and you pull a gun out and start shooting what if a random person walks past and you shoot him too and kill an innocent person.don.t you care even tho you were protecting yourself because i tried to shoot you first.
Because this happens many many a time innocent by standers getting shot because 2 people had a dispute ..
See the whole point of banning guns is not to protect you alone its to protect the masses..
plus people say you just got to do checks I.E for mental people ..anyone can turn mental..
so how do you check that ..one day i can be making loads of money have a nice house lovely wife
The next day loose my job cannot pay the mortgage my wife leaves me takes my kids with her i turn to drink go down hill..
then think ar well this is a shit life go to a corner shop by a gun walk in a shopping mall shoot loads of people and then kill myself..
so easy done and this has happened many many a time
some people shoot there whole family if they loose there jobs because they cannot stand the kids growing up poor..
There is going to be a lot more poor in the future
So more shootings fact if you make it easy to get guns more of your people will die
Its a lot easier to replace goods not so easy to replace a life

 so av a nice day

Why on earth did you post this response to me?


But they can come up with ways to do something with chemicals or driving a car into a building right? Are we going to outlaw driving?