What's your opinion of gun control? - page 187.

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Quote from: BADecker on July 28, 2015, 03:45:54 PM

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Think about it, if there is no gun nor weapon in this world, then there would be reduced killings. So the ideal state is as such. But we all know it is not possible because people always desire to be strong, whether to defend themselves or to cause hurt to others - guns offer them that opportunity. Although it is impossible to ban guns in the world, but banning guns in a country is highly feasible and should be implemented because it has been done in so many countries and it clearly shows no purpose in allowing guns.

I'm sorry I do not agree. Gun control is unlikely to significantly impact murder or suicide rates, regardless what it allows or forbids.

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If us who own guns thought that a ban would reduce violence then many of us would support such a move. However we know better than most that gun violence is not committed by us. It is almost always a crazy person or a criminal who could not legally own a gun in the first place. We simply do not enforce the laws we have now, and a murderer is not going to listen to your silly laws anyway. Want to stop these people? Get a gun. Anything less is just wishful thinking.

Yes. And the important reason to get a gun is to protect yourself from crazies in government who want to take your property, your guns, away from you.

to protect your self from enemy like you maybe Cheesy

just kidding bro Cheesy

i think guns control is needed for proecting yourself and you can feel safe when you own a gun

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Quote from: RodeoX on July 28, 2015, 03:27:34 PM

Quote from: roadbits on July 28, 2015, 12:02:38 PM

Quote from: BTCFaucets on July 26, 2015, 07:50:56 AM

Think about it, if there is no gun nor weapon in this world, then there would be reduced killings. So the ideal state is as such. But we all know it is not possible because people always desire to be strong, whether to defend themselves or to cause hurt to others - guns offer them that opportunity. Although it is impossible to ban guns in the world, but banning guns in a country is highly feasible and should be implemented because it has been done in so many countries and it clearly shows no purpose in allowing guns.

I'm sorry I do not agree. Gun control is unlikely to significantly impact murder or suicide rates, regardless what it allows or forbids.

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If us who own guns thought that a ban would reduce violence then many of us would support such a move. However we know better than most that gun violence is not committed by us. It is almost always a crazy person or a criminal who could not legally own a gun in the first place. We simply do not enforce the laws we have now, and a murderer is not going to listen to your silly laws anyway. Want to stop these people? Get a gun. Anything less is just wishful thinking.

Yes. And the important reason to get a gun is to protect yourself from crazies in government who want to take your property, your guns, away from you.

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Quote from: roadbits on July 28, 2015, 12:02:38 PM

Quote from: BTCFaucets on July 26, 2015, 07:50:56 AM

Think about it, if there is no gun nor weapon in this world, then there would be reduced killings. So the ideal state is as such. But we all know it is not possible because people always desire to be strong, whether to defend themselves or to cause hurt to others - guns offer them that opportunity. Although it is impossible to ban guns in the world, but banning guns in a country is highly feasible and should be implemented because it has been done in so many countries and it clearly shows no purpose in allowing guns.

I'm sorry I do not agree. Gun control is unlikely to significantly impact murder or suicide rates, regardless what it allows or forbids.

+1
If us who own guns thought that a ban would reduce violence then many of us would support such a move. However we know better than most that gun violence is not committed by us. It is almost always a crazy person or a criminal who could not legally own a gun in the first place. We simply do not enforce the laws we have now, and a murderer is not going to listen to your silly laws anyway. Want to stop these people? Get a gun. Anything less is just wishful thinking.

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Quote from: BTCFaucets on July 26, 2015, 07:50:56 AM

Think about it, if there is no gun nor weapon in this world, then there would be reduced killings. So the ideal state is as such. But we all know it is not possible because people always desire to be strong, whether to defend themselves or to cause hurt to others - guns offer them that opportunity. Although it is impossible to ban guns in the world, but banning guns in a country is highly feasible and should be implemented because it has been done in so many countries and it clearly shows no purpose in allowing guns.

I'm sorry I do not agree. Gun control is unlikely to significantly impact murder or suicide rates, regardless what it allows or forbids.

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Quote from: MakingMoneyHoney on July 26, 2015, 09:45:22 AM

Quote from: Spendulus on July 26, 2015, 09:40:46 AM

Quote from: MakingMoneyHoney on July 26, 2015, 09:37:48 AM

Quote from: BTCFaucets on July 26, 2015, 07:50:56 AM

Think about it, if there is no gun nor weapon in this world, then there would be reduced killings. So the ideal state is as such. But we all know it is not possible because people always desire to be strong, whether to defend themselves or to cause hurt to others - guns offer them that opportunity. Although it is impossible to ban guns in the world, but banning guns in a country is highly feasible and should be implemented because it has been done in so many countries and it clearly shows no purpose in allowing guns.

Again, ignoring the fact that criminals will still have access to guns... you cannot ban all guns from a country.

Not only that, but specifically firearms are "equalizers."

They make an 80 year old granny equal to a gang of young toughs.

Other weapons - swords, knives, hammers, spears, whatever - these do not have this charcteristic.

So as far as "weapons" go, guns have advantages for which they, specifically should NOT be banned.

Right or wrong?

I'm not going to argue about that. As I've stated, I would never own a gun, if it's my time to die, I'll die. But I don't like people continuing to argue against guns, and completely ignoring the fact that criminals will still have them. Banning them or painting them pink, won't stop the contraband from getting into the hands of people who will do bad things with them.

Almost 100% agree. I have held jobs where part of a reasonable approach to the job involved carrying a weapons. Think "carrying bags of money" to put it bluntly, lol....

In retrospect, well, I could have gotten a different job. Today, I simply wouldn't think of a job such as operating a bar, closing at 2am, and leaving with a bag of money. This is all an oversimplification, but you get the idea.

I guess my point is that even someone who doesn't believe in guns may find himself in circumstances were they are an obvious asset. But the reverse is certainly true, people move to a small town that is 100% safe, where people don't even lock their doors....and they continue "high security habits."

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Quote from: Spendulus on July 26, 2015, 09:40:46 AM

Quote from: MakingMoneyHoney on July 26, 2015, 09:37:48 AM

Quote from: BTCFaucets on July 26, 2015, 07:50:56 AM

Think about it, if there is no gun nor weapon in this world, then there would be reduced killings. So the ideal state is as such. But we all know it is not possible because people always desire to be strong, whether to defend themselves or to cause hurt to others - guns offer them that opportunity. Although it is impossible to ban guns in the world, but banning guns in a country is highly feasible and should be implemented because it has been done in so many countries and it clearly shows no purpose in allowing guns.

Again, ignoring the fact that criminals will still have access to guns... you cannot ban all guns from a country.

Not only that, but specifically firearms are "equalizers."

They make an 80 year old granny equal to a gang of young toughs.

Other weapons - swords, knives, hammers, spears, whatever - these do not have this charcteristic.

So as far as "weapons" go, guns have advantages for which they, specifically should NOT be banned.

Right or wrong?

I'm not going to argue about that. As I've stated, I would never own a gun, if it's my time to die, I'll die. But I don't like people continuing to argue against guns, and completely ignoring the fact that criminals will still have them. Banning them or painting them pink, won't stop the contraband from getting into the hands of people who will do bad things with them.

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Quote from: MakingMoneyHoney on July 26, 2015, 09:37:48 AM

Quote from: BTCFaucets on July 26, 2015, 07:50:56 AM

Think about it, if there is no gun nor weapon in this world, then there would be reduced killings. So the ideal state is as such. But we all know it is not possible because people always desire to be strong, whether to defend themselves or to cause hurt to others - guns offer them that opportunity. Although it is impossible to ban guns in the world, but banning guns in a country is highly feasible and should be implemented because it has been done in so many countries and it clearly shows no purpose in allowing guns.

Again, ignoring the fact that criminals will still have access to guns... you cannot ban all guns from a country.

Not only that, but specifically firearms are "equalizers."

They make an 80 year old granny equal to a gang of young toughs.

Other weapons - swords, knives, hammers, spears, whatever - these do not have this charcteristic.

So as far as "weapons" go, guns have advantages for which they, specifically should NOT be banned.

Right or wrong?

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Quote from: BTCFaucets on July 26, 2015, 07:50:56 AM

Think about it, if there is no gun nor weapon in this world, then there would be reduced killings. So the ideal state is as such. But we all know it is not possible because people always desire to be strong, whether to defend themselves or to cause hurt to others - guns offer them that opportunity. Although it is impossible to ban guns in the world, but banning guns in a country is highly feasible and should be implemented because it has been done in so many countries and it clearly shows no purpose in allowing guns.

Again, ignoring the fact that criminals will still have access to guns... you cannot ban all guns from a country.

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Think about it, if there is no gun nor weapon in this world, then there would be reduced killings. So the ideal state is as such. But we all know it is not possible because people always desire to be strong, whether to defend themselves or to cause hurt to others - guns offer them that opportunity. Although it is impossible to ban guns in the world, but banning guns in a country is highly feasible and should be implemented because it has been done in so many countries and it clearly shows no purpose in allowing guns.

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Quote from: Spendulus on July 25, 2015, 07:03:29 PM

Quote from: zenitzz on July 25, 2015, 04:41:20 PM

Quote from: BitcoinMagician on July 25, 2015, 12:58:14 PM

How about instead of "I would prefer that nobody have a gun except..." everybody gets to say the same thing?

sometimes you need have a gun because you never know when crime is coming to you maybe when you sleep. when you have a gun in your house. you will feel safe

Yeah. I know more than one dude who was in a war, that just can't sleep without a gun by the bed. Same for a couple women, who had bad things happen to them - and now they have a gun, and get by every day a little bit better.

You just can't ignore these things in peoples' head and in their lives with some abstract "I know better than you about whether you should have a gun."

Well at least that's my point of view.

Of course, if everybody had guns and carried them openly, our respect of each other would change.

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Quote from: zenitzz on July 25, 2015, 04:41:20 PM

Quote from: BitcoinMagician on July 25, 2015, 12:58:14 PM

How about instead of "I would prefer that nobody have a gun except..." everybody gets to say the same thing?

sometimes you need have a gun because you never know when crime is coming to you maybe when you sleep. when you have a gun in your house. you will feel safe

Yeah. I know more than one dude who was in a war, that just can't sleep without a gun by the bed. Same for a couple women, who had bad things happen to them - and now they have a gun, and get by every day a little bit better.

You just can't ignore these things in peoples' head and in their lives with some abstract "I know better than you about whether you should have a gun."

Well at least that's my point of view.

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Quote from: BitcoinMagician on July 25, 2015, 12:58:14 PM

How about instead of "I would prefer that nobody have a gun except..." everybody gets to say the same thing?

sometimes you need have a gun because you never know when crime is coming to you maybe when you sleep. when you have a gun in your house. you will feel safe

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Quote from: pinball8 on July 25, 2015, 01:23:07 PM

Gun control generally refers to laws or policies that regulate the manufacture, sale, transfer, possession, modification, or use of firearms. They vary greatly around the world. Some countries, such as the United Kingdom, have very strict limits on gun possession while others, like the United States, have, compared to most industrial democracies, relatively few restrictions (although policies vary from state to state).

Proponents of gun control generally argue that widespread gun ownership increases the danger of gun-related crime, homicide and suicide. Opponents argue that gun control does not reduce gun-related injuries, murder, or suicide, and some argue that certain regulations violate individual liberties. Some opponents of gun control argue that access to firearms enables citizens to defend themselves.

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Gun control generally refers to laws or policies that regulate the manufacture, sale, transfer, possession, modification, or use of firearms. They vary greatly around the world. Some countries, such as the United Kingdom, have very strict limits on gun possession while others, like the United States, have, compared to most industrial democracies, relatively few restrictions (although policies vary from state to state).

Proponents of gun control generally argue that widespread gun ownership increases the danger of gun-related crime, homicide and suicide. Opponents argue that gun control does not reduce gun-related injuries, murder, or suicide, and some argue that certain regulations violate individual liberties. Some opponents of gun control argue that access to firearms enables citizens to defend themselves.

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Quote from: BitcoinMagician on July 25, 2015, 12:58:14 PM

I would prefer that nobody have a gun except for specialized law enforcement respond teams. I don't work towards that goal, people have the right to own firearms by law. I would like people to just willingly do away with firearms... but that's not gonna happen.

How about instead of "I would prefer that nobody have a gun except..." everybody gets to say the same thing?

Then wouldn't you have a solution that works in most places most of the time?

Because your solution might work some places some of the time. Or your place most of the time.

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Quote from: Schleicher on July 25, 2015, 10:53:51 AM

Maybe the manufacturers should be required to paint the guns bright pink.
Then only girls buy guns, and we would have no gun crime Grin

Quote from: BitcoinMagician on July 25, 2015, 12:58:14 PM

I would prefer that nobody have a gun except for specialized law enforcement respond teams. I don't work towards that goal, people have the right to own firearms by law. I would like people to just willingly do away with firearms... but that's not gonna happen.

Many people just like to ignore the fact that people will still have guns. The guns to worry about are the ones that are being held illegally.

I don't believe in killing people. I wouldn't have a gun to protect myself personally, if I'm going to die, I'll die. But people who argue that if there are more laws to the point that citizens cannot buy or have a gun, there will be a lot less gun violence, are ignoring reality.

What happened when they made alcohol illegal? There were speakeasies, so people could still get liquor. The criminals are still getting guns with the laws we have now, the criminals will still be getting guns if there are more laws. That's not going to change, no matter what.

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I would prefer that nobody have a gun except for specialized law enforcement respond teams. I don't work towards that goal, people have the right to own firearms by law. I would like people to just willingly do away with firearms... but that's not gonna happen.

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Maybe the manufacturers should be required to paint the guns bright pink.
Then only girls buy guns, and we would have no gun crime Grin

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Quote from: prodigy8 on July 25, 2015, 07:46:26 AM

Quote from: DaddyMonsi on July 25, 2015, 07:44:10 AM

no such thing as gun control because you control only those who are registered. in some countries, th number of unregistered firearm is more than those that are registered. i think its its much better government loosen up a little on the requirements and fees to entice everyone to register.

That's the point every country have the list of the registered members (people) but those who are unregistered are dangerous.

No, unregistered people are not dangerous in general. Lots of times, someone winds up with a firearm and does not want to bother to "register it." Maybe it was passed down in the family, or traded between individuals. Lots of different circumstances. Registering involves paying fees, complicated applications, getting in yet one more government database.

The small fraction of unregistered owners who are criminals are never going to register anyway. So the dangerous fraction you are concerned about you haven't affected in the slightest. They laugh at you.

Obviously that's NOT a solution, just more oppression for the average guy...

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Quote from: DaddyMonsi on July 25, 2015, 07:44:10 AM

no such thing as gun control because you control only those who are registered. in some countries, th number of unregistered firearm is more than those that are registered. i think its its much better government loosen up a little on the requirements and fees to entice everyone to register.

That's the point every country have the list of the registered members (peoeple) but those who are unregistered are dangerous.

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