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legendary
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June 27, 2015, 07:50:14 AM
Teach them about how protect thei >r selves is an important thing, but what the deal with weapon. I mean, you may let children to join any martial arts as a self protection to them. But not for weapon.

OK... let's imagine that your kid is a martial arts expert, holding degrees in various disciplines such as Karate, Judo, Taekwondo, Krav Maga, Capoeira.etc. Will he be able to defend himself (all alone), if a bunch of goons, armed with machetes and swords attack him? No. That's why, we need fire-arms to defend ourselves and our family members.
Government should take action over gun control through the world.   Angry
They have to kept an eye,takes private investigation over black marketing of guns.Government should ban on such thing,kept restriction on selling such  equipment so easily.


Governments make money manufacturing and selling guns -as in- no weapon manufacturers can sell their products oversea without official government approval. Your one world government order to control gun flow worldwide will simply create bigger buyers and bigger sellers... That situation will make the rest of us more vulnerable on many levels. Yourself included.


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June 27, 2015, 07:32:29 AM
Teach them about how protect thei >r selves is an important thing, but what the deal with weapon. I mean, you may let children to join any martial arts as a self protection to them. But not for weapon.

OK... let's imagine that your kid is a martial arts expert, holding degrees in various disciplines such as Karate, Judo, Taekwondo, Krav Maga, Capoeira.etc. Will he be able to defend himself (all alone), if a bunch of goons, armed with machetes and swords attack him? No. That's why, we need fire-arms to defend ourselves and our family members.
Government should take action over gun control through the world.   Angry
They have to kept an eye,takes private investigation over black marketing of guns.Government should ban on such thing,kept restriction on selling such  equipment so easily.
Are you afraid of guns? They are just tools like knives saws and hammers. Are you afraid of blades too? Maybe you should ask the government to protect you from these as well.
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June 27, 2015, 03:27:35 AM
Teach them about how protect thei >r selves is an important thing, but what the deal with weapon. I mean, you may let children to join any martial arts as a self protection to them. But not for weapon.

OK... let's imagine that your kid is a martial arts expert, holding degrees in various disciplines such as Karate, Judo, Taekwondo, Krav Maga, Capoeira.etc. Will he be able to defend himself (all alone), if a bunch of goons, armed with machetes and swords attack him? No. That's why, we need fire-arms to defend ourselves and our family members.
Government should take action over gun control through the world.   Angry
They have to kept an eye,takes private investigation over black marketing of guns.Government should ban on such thing,kept restriction on selling such  equipment so easily.
legendary
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June 27, 2015, 02:35:16 AM
In my experience ignorance is more dangerous than knowledge. I think it makes sense to teach kids what to do if they find a gun. Just like they should learn to swim before falling into a lake. In the U.S. there are many free/cheap programs to teach youth gun safety. The apple seed project for example, or the hunter safety programs sponsored by most states.
 
Even though she is a fairly good shot, my wife has little interest in guns. But I insist on her visiting the range once and a while to keep up her basic safe handling skills. If there is going to be a loaded gun in the house then every family member should be able to:

1. Children or those who know nothing about guns should know to get an adult if they find a gun and know to stay near and keep any other children from touching it. Your guns should never be unattended or kept loaded with young children around.
2. Older children who have shot a gun may be trained to cover the gun with a bucket or something and guard it from other kids. But again, your guns should be locked up at all times when children are present.
3. Adults who are familiar with basic gun safety should be able to disarm a firearm and block the breach. If they can do this then you could keep a loaded gun with that adult present. But it should not be a surprise.
 
P.S. - I think it is true that in every state one can keep a loaded long gun in their home or shoot at a range with no licenses of any kind. It is only carrying the gun hidden on yourself that requires a CC license.
 
https://appleseedinfo.org/search-states-map.php

Wow I think to change my mind after read your argument about the importance of teaching gun safety to kids. Your reasons sounds right and it obviously state why kids need to know about it. But it will be harder if we are living in country that prohibit a gun in our home. Anyway, you have changed my view about gun to kids.
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June 26, 2015, 03:43:21 PM
The most effective way to achieve many of these goals is to teach gun safety to everyone, including age-appropriate training for children. That way when a gun owner fails to do the right thing, those around him are less likely to hurt themselves, and more likely to recognize the unsafe behavior and correct it.


I think we don't need to involve children in weapon issue. It's not enough to just teach gun safety to people, the main point is why people need the gun in their home, and also you must need a license to using a gun.

In my experience ignorance is more dangerous than knowledge. I think it makes sense to teach kids what to do if they find a gun. Just like they should learn to swim before falling into a lake. In the U.S. there are many free/cheap programs to teach youth gun safety. The apple seed project for example, or the hunter safety programs sponsored by most states.
 
Even though she is a fairly good shot, my wife has little interest in guns. But I insist on her visiting the range once and a while to keep up her basic safe handling skills. If there is going to be a loaded gun in the house then every family member should be able to:

1. Children or those who know nothing about guns should know to get an adult if they find a gun and know to stay near and keep any other children from touching it. Your guns should never be unattended or kept loaded with young children around.
2. Older children who have shot a gun may be trained to cover the gun with a bucket or something and guard it from other kids. But again, your guns should be locked up at all times when children are present.
3. Adults who are familiar with basic gun safety should be able to disarm a firearm and block the breach. If they can do this then you could keep a loaded gun with that adult present. But it should not be a surprise.
 
P.S. - I think it is true that in every state one can keep a loaded long gun in their home or shoot at a range with no licenses of any kind. It is only carrying the gun hidden on yourself that requires a CC license.
 
https://appleseedinfo.org/search-states-map.php
A small handful of states require a permit/identity card. My state, Illinois for example requires you to have a Firearm Owner ID card (FOID) before you can legally own a firearm. There are no requirements to get a FOID card other than your lawful ability to own firearms (ie you cant be a felon). This is said by some to be unconstitutional and I believe may be challenged in the near future.
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June 26, 2015, 03:24:09 PM
The most effective way to achieve many of these goals is to teach gun safety to everyone, including age-appropriate training for children. That way when a gun owner fails to do the right thing, those around him are less likely to hurt themselves, and more likely to recognize the unsafe behavior and correct it.


I think we don't need to involve children in weapon issue. It's not enough to just teach gun safety to people, the main point is why people need the gun in their home, and also you must need a license to using a gun.

In my experience ignorance is more dangerous than knowledge. I think it makes sense to teach kids what to do if they find a gun. Just like they should learn to swim before falling into a lake. In the U.S. there are many free/cheap programs to teach youth gun safety. The apple seed project for example, or the hunter safety programs sponsored by most states.
 
Even though she is a fairly good shot, my wife has little interest in guns. But I insist on her visiting the range once and a while to keep up her basic safe handling skills. If there is going to be a loaded gun in the house then every family member should be able to:

1. Children or those who know nothing about guns should know to get an adult if they find a gun and know to stay near and keep any other children from touching it. Your guns should never be unattended or kept loaded with young children around.
2. Older children who have shot a gun may be trained to cover the gun with a bucket or something and guard it from other kids. But again, your guns should be locked up at all times when children are present.
3. Adults who are familiar with basic gun safety should be able to disarm a firearm and block the breach. If they can do this then you could keep a loaded gun with that adult present. But it should not be a surprise.
 
P.S. - I think it is true that in every state one can keep a loaded long gun in their home or shoot at a range with no licenses of any kind. It is only carrying the gun hidden on yourself that requires a CC license.
 
https://appleseedinfo.org/search-states-map.php
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June 26, 2015, 12:42:20 PM
First off, it is against the 2nd amendment, and therefore illegal in the first place.

Secondly, if the guns are taken away from the good people, who is going to have guns? The bad people.
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June 26, 2015, 12:38:37 PM

if guns are outlawed only outlaws will have them

True by definition, and a tired (albeit accurate) saying.  Not fully accurate though;  the state can and does issue legal authority to some people of their choice..

Among the classes of people through history who I have the most respect for are those who became 'outlaws' rather than to succumb to tyranny without a fight, and it is more common than not that tyranny comes to a society eventually.  For propaganda reasons it is common to be spineless and do a song-n-dance around 2nd amendment issues with yarns of 'sportsman' and 'personal protection' and such.  I do it myself.  At the end of the day, though, these are not the reasons our 'conspiracy theory gun loon' founders here in the U.S. made the right to bear arms second only to free speech in our bill of rights.

Edit:  I might add that one of the main reasons I got interested in Bitcoin in the first place is that it is increasingly unlikely that bearing arms would be effective in achieving the aspirations of the founders.

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June 26, 2015, 12:20:31 PM
OK... let's imagine that your kid is a martial arts expert, holding degrees in various disciplines such as Karate, Judo, Taekwondo, Krav Maga, Capoeira.etc. Will he be able to defend himself (all alone), if a bunch of goons, armed with machetes and swords attack him? No. That's why, we need fire-arms to defend ourselves and our family members.

Wow, so every kids in neighborhood have a gun in their school bag, and bring it to school and everywhere. It sounds interesting. Do you think a bad guy bought a gun to rob a kid? But if there were many crimes in the neighborhood, then I think it's okay to kids need fire-arms like you said.


So you are not going to tell me in what country the neighborhood you are describing is? Fair enough.

I am always talking about the USA by the way...

It will be useless since the crime statistic in my country is different with my neighborhood. So, I hope you can have a gun legally, in case using it to protect your family and house
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June 26, 2015, 12:15:05 PM
Never any crimes? Sounds like one of those scandinavian socialist paradise. I want to google the crime rate of your country, its size, legal and illegal immigration data and other statistics so I understand your position better.

Can the neighbor prove the gun does not belong to him and, maybe, was planted by the dude who called the government on him? Or does he go straight to jail?

What is the name of your country?

Thank you.

 Smiley

Can you differ a neighborhood with a whole country? I think you have no idea about what is a neighborhood and statistics. Neighborhood is just a small part of a country, and the statistics in a neighborhood won't affect a country statistics.


So you are not going to tell me in what country the neighborhood you are describing is? Fair enough.

I am always talking about the USA by the way...


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June 26, 2015, 11:33:21 AM
if guns are outlawed only outlaws will have them
legendary
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June 26, 2015, 11:31:25 AM
Guns should never be legally allowed, they always hurt.

Gun is not good for life style

Judging the lifestyle of others 'is not good for life style' in my opinion.

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June 26, 2015, 08:37:49 AM
Teach them about how protect their selves is an important thing, but what the deal with weapon. I mean, you may let children to join any martial arts as a self protection to them. But not for weapon.

OK... let's imagine that your kid is a martial arts expert, holding degrees in various disciplines such as Karate, Judo, Taekwondo, Krav Maga, Capoeira.etc. Will he be able to defend himself (all alone), if a bunch of goons, armed with machetes and swords attack him? No. That's why, we need fire-arms to defend ourselves and our family members.

Absolutely.

And when we have armies of gun-armed soldiers that we need to defend against, then we need to form our own armies that have guns so we can defend properly and effectively.

In a lot of ways guns are a bad thing. In some terrific ways they cause peace because their effectiveness makes everyone respect everyone else.

If guns would go away completely and entirely for all times everywhere, things might be different. But this isn't going to happen. Since it isn't going to happen, everyone needs to have guns. HOWEVER, WE NEED TO BE ADAPTED INTO HAVING AND USING GUNS SLOWLY, SINCE WE PRESENTLY DON'T HAVE THE PROPER PSYCHE FOR INSTANT GUN OWNERSHIP.

Smiley
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June 26, 2015, 08:14:35 AM
Teach them about how protect their selves is an important thing, but what the deal with weapon. I mean, you may let children to join any martial arts as a self protection to them. But not for weapon.

OK... let's imagine that your kid is a martial arts expert, holding degrees in various disciplines such as Karate, Judo, Taekwondo, Krav Maga, Capoeira.etc. Will he be able to defend himself (all alone), if a bunch of goons, armed with machetes and swords attack him? No. That's why, we need fire-arms to defend ourselves and our family members.
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June 26, 2015, 06:15:50 AM
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I think we don't need to involve children in weapon issue. It's not enough to just teach gun safety to people, the main point is why people need the gun in their home, and also you must need a license to using a gun.
im not agree,they needed and  That's good if you teach your kids and all about safe for protect their self

Teach them about how protect their selves is an important thing, but what the deal with weapon. I mean, you may let children to join any martial arts as a self protection to them. But not for weapon.
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June 26, 2015, 05:30:10 AM
Different countries and different regions have different needs. In Texas where the distance between settlements is high you need something to defend. But in New York where people are close by the need of guns is not that important.
Your point of view is one way it is right, wouldn't be really nice, if more settlements get dense in Texas , so that people will get to know each other and create some friendly bonds between them so that they do not need to carry the Gun. Any idea that the killer and victim usually live in the same place Texas or in different place ?
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June 26, 2015, 05:15:25 AM
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I think we don't need to involve children in weapon issue. It's not enough to just teach gun safety to people, the main point is why people need the gun in their home, and also you must need a license to using a gun.
im not agree,they needed and  That's good if you teach your kids and all about safe for protect their self
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June 26, 2015, 04:51:33 AM
The most effective way to achieve many of these goals is to teach gun safety to everyone, including age-appropriate training for children. That way when a gun owner fails to do the right thing, those around him are less likely to hurt themselves, and more likely to recognize the unsafe behavior and correct it.


I think we don't need to involve children in weapon issue. It's not enough to just teach gun safety to people, the main point is why people need the gun in their home, and also you must need a license to using a gun.

No, why would you teach a child to respect a firearm and how it should be treated safely when you can let them be curious and give them motivation to go find one to learn for themselves not fully understanding that a firearm is dangerous and not a toy so when they do come across one they play with it, or let other children do so, thinking it is a game because no one explained it to them in the first place. Good plan.

Instead of trying to child proof the world, why don't you world proof your child? Seems like a much safer alternative than the utopian dream of making the world perfectly safe via endless legislation.
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June 26, 2015, 04:50:00 AM


Guns are made for one purpose, and that purpose is to kill.
I believe that guns are not weapons, they are tools. How they are used is up to the person holding it.
Guns are especially dangerous in the hands of people who don't know how to use them (i.e., kids and teenagers) as well as those who are mentally ill and/or have a temper problem.
Gun control will not stop violence because a violent person doesn’t need a gun to be violent.
After the Sandy Hook Elementary shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, support for gun control increased dramatically.

Generally in America, the support for gun control has outweighed the support for gun rights.
Are gun control laws constitutional?
What would be your ideal set of laws regarding firearms?




I dont think we should have large central authority making decisions on gun control.  Some cultures are different and should be left to self regulate - does this mean some people are going to get shot who otherwise wouldn't, yeah it does.  You cant save everyone though.

Living in the UK its very annoying to not be able to own a gun and protect myself, i dont want threats on the street or threat of burglary.  Both threats are minimised if people are carrying guns.  Bring on decentralization.
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June 26, 2015, 01:44:56 AM
Guns should never be legally allowed, they always hurt.

So you have issues only with legal possession of weapons? What about those criminals who obtain it illegaly? Right now, it is impossible to completely eradicate illegal gun possession. As far as I know, no country has ever achieved this. So, it will not be wise to remove the possession of fire-arms, using legal means.
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