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July 24, 2015, 08:51:27 AM
Gun's don't cause violence. If violent people want to go crazy and kill people, they'll find ways to do it with or without guns.
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June 28, 2015, 08:50:30 AM
Well... The second amendment does not exist in a vacuum. Also your government could be inspired by the Swiss if not a fan of the U.S.
I am not going to copy paste the whole article and you should not trust my link and do your own research regarding this subject. Some country trust their own citizens more than others. Citizens understand to never trust a government that forbids you to defend themselves and their loved ones.

http://www.guncite.com/swissgun-kopel.html

Thanks, I got some tips there, then I found an interested quote from the article, so I put here

"Cultural conditions, not gun laws, are the most important factors in a nation's crime rate. Young adults in Washington, D.C., are subject to strict gun control, but no social control, and they commit a staggering amount of armed crime. Young adults in Zurich are subject to minimal gun control, but strict social control, and they commit almost no crime.

America-with its traditions of individual liberty-cannot import Switzerland's culture of social control. Teenagers, women, and almost everyone else have more freedom in America than in Switzerland."


So, maybe that's why US government don't trust you to bear a gun, and made a complicated procedures for society to get it. Do you still wanna get your right for it? US people have more freedom, and now want to get a weapon.

Anyway, thanks for your interesting article.



Power to the people...

The 2nd amendment was NEVER created for hunting ducks and rabbits...

Correction: that is why whoever is in power wants more power and less for you. Don't forget: the founding fathers, all of them came from Europe... They came from countries with kings and emperors. They knew their history and ancient history.

Now your position could be: it is old history. We have democracies everywhere. No need for this mentality anymore.
Have you seen what is going on in greece? Italy and 10000 new migrants per week? Things will not stay the same. History is in a constant flux, as the minds of people...
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/04/italian-coastguard-rescues-10000-migrants-week-150415192547203.html


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June 28, 2015, 07:26:47 AM
Well, my opinion on guns reflects those of (then president) Bill Clinton on abortions.

Among civilians, they should be rare and also perfectly legal.

You cant solve human irresponsibility by government repressions against law abidding citizens.
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June 28, 2015, 12:04:28 AM
Well... The second amendment does not exist in a vacuum. Also your government could be inspired by the Swiss if not a fan of the U.S.
I am not going to copy paste the whole article and you should not trust my link and do your own research regarding this subject. Some country trust their own citizens more than others. Citizens understand to never trust a government that forbids you to defend themselves and their loved ones.

http://www.guncite.com/swissgun-kopel.html

Thanks, I got some tips there, then I found an interested quote from the article, so I put here

"Cultural conditions, not gun laws, are the most important factors in a nation's crime rate. Young adults in Washington, D.C., are subject to strict gun control, but no social control, and they commit a staggering amount of armed crime. Young adults in Zurich are subject to minimal gun control, but strict social control, and they commit almost no crime.

America-with its traditions of individual liberty-cannot import Switzerland's culture of social control. Teenagers, women, and almost everyone else have more freedom in America than in Switzerland."


So, maybe that's why US government don't trust you to bear a gun, and made a complicated procedures for society to get it. Do you still wanna get your right for it? US people have more freedom, and now want to get a weapon.

Anyway, thanks for your interesting article.
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June 27, 2015, 06:17:23 PM
Our guns aren't going anywhere, the Govt. is not capable of taking them all. It's logistically not feasible.


1- forced gun registration. Name. Address, etc.
2- confiscation
3- think of the children and the new classrooms that will be created with all those destroyed guns people!!!!


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June 27, 2015, 05:33:05 PM
Our guns aren't going anywhere, the Govt. is not capable of taking them all. It's logistically not feasible.
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June 27, 2015, 05:14:12 PM
I could give you some tips if I knew the laws of your country. But I do not.

Well we can start with your country now, I will listen you. Maybe, the tips can work in my country, if someday I want get a gun. I am curious how can you be confident about your tips.


My tip:




Will this work in your country?





You would think so, but in u.s. its most people just the rejects from other countries.  See my sig
legendary
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June 27, 2015, 05:05:05 PM
I could give you some tips if I knew the laws of your country. But I do not.

Well we can start with your country now, I will listen you. Maybe, the tips can work in my country, if someday I want get a gun. I am curious how can you be confident about your tips.


My tip:



Will this work in your country?


I'm not sure it can work in my country, since not all of American can get their right to get a gun although it was ruled in Second Amendment. So do you have a gun now in your home? Maybe someday if I change my mind to get one, I will show my government the US Second Amendment.


Well... The second amendment does not exist in a vacuum. Also your government could be inspired by the Swiss if not a fan of the U.S.
I am not going to copy paste the whole article and you should not trust my link and do your own research regarding this subject. Some country trust their own citizens more than others. Citizens understand to never trust a government that forbids you to defend themselves and their loved ones.

http://www.guncite.com/swissgun-kopel.html


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June 27, 2015, 01:11:27 PM
I could give you some tips if I knew the laws of your country. But I do not.

Well we can start with your country now, I will listen you. Maybe, the tips can work in my country, if someday I want get a gun. I am curious how can you be confident about your tips.


My tip:



Will this work in your country?


I'm not sure it can work in my country, since not all of American can get their right to get a gun although it was ruled in Second Amendment. So do you have a gun now in your home? Maybe someday if I change my mind to get one, I will show my government the US Second Amendment.
legendary
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June 27, 2015, 12:58:10 PM
So before newton was born... Bullets did not know where to go? Technically speaking of course...
Correct, before Newton was born physics didn't existence, and bullets would behave randomly.







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June 27, 2015, 12:55:22 PM
I could give you some tips if I knew the laws of your country. But I do not.

Well we can start with your country now, I will listen you. Maybe, the tips can work in my country, if someday I want get a gun. I am curious how can you be confident about your tips.


My tip:




Will this work in your country?




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https://youtu.be/PZm8TTLR2NU
June 27, 2015, 12:18:11 PM
So before newton was born... Bullets did not know where to go? Technically speaking of course...
Correct, before Newton was born physics didn't existence, and bullets would behave randomly.

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June 27, 2015, 11:32:53 AM
Yeah maybe there is no country totally ban gun, the government state that to own a gun we must need a license. But since its hard to get the license and must through complicated procedures, I assume we can't get a gun in our home.

Australia comes to mind. It is extremely difficult to own a gun (legally) there. The Australian gun laws were tightened after the The Port Arthur massacre in 1996. Some 750,000 people own a fire-arm legally in Australia, while another 300,000 to 600,000 own them illegally. Australia is having one of the highest per capita ownership of illegal guns in the Western world.


Yep. This reminds me of what it happening now with the confederate flag.

"Never let a serious crisis go to waste..."


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June 27, 2015, 11:32:26 AM
I could give you some tips if I knew the laws of your country. But I do not.

Well we can start with your country now, I will listen you. Maybe, the tips can work in my country, if someday I want get a gun. I am curious how can you be confident about your tips.
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June 27, 2015, 10:32:23 AM
Yeah maybe there is no country totally ban gun, the government state that to own a gun we must need a license. But since its hard to get the license and must through complicated procedures, I assume we can't get a gun in our home.

Australia comes to mind. It is extremely difficult to own a gun (legally) there. The Australian gun laws were tightened after the The Port Arthur massacre in 1996. Some 750,000 people own a fire-arm legally in Australia, while another 300,000 to 600,000 own them illegally. Australia is having one of the highest per capita ownership of illegal guns in the Western world.
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June 27, 2015, 10:19:33 AM
Yeah maybe there is no country totally ban gun, the government state that to own a gun we must need a license. But since its hard to get the license and must through complicated procedures, I assume we can't get a gun in our home.

Nah. Can't be true.


So what are you trying to say? Do you think we must get one in our home, even it illegally? Or maybe you will give us tips here how we can get the license of gun owning.


I could give you some tips if I knew the laws of your country. But I do not.


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June 27, 2015, 10:08:12 AM
Yeah maybe there is no country totally ban gun, the government state that to own a gun we must need a license. But since its hard to get the license and must through complicated procedures, I assume we can't get a gun in our home.

Nah. Can't be true.


So what are you trying to say? Do you think we must get one in our home, even it illegally? Or maybe you will give us tips here how we can get the license of gun owning.
legendary
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June 27, 2015, 09:43:33 AM
In my experience ignorance is more dangerous than knowledge. I think it makes sense to teach kids what to do if they find a gun. Just like they should learn to swim before falling into a lake. In the U.S. there are many free/cheap programs to teach youth gun safety. The apple seed project for example, or the hunter safety programs sponsored by most states.
 
Even though she is a fairly good shot, my wife has little interest in guns. But I insist on her visiting the range once and a while to keep up her basic safe handling skills. If there is going to be a loaded gun in the house then every family member should be able to:

1. Children or those who know nothing about guns should know to get an adult if they find a gun and know to stay near and keep any other children from touching it. Your guns should never be unattended or kept loaded with young children around.
2. Older children who have shot a gun may be trained to cover the gun with a bucket or something and guard it from other kids. But again, your guns should be locked up at all times when children are present.
3. Adults who are familiar with basic gun safety should be able to disarm a firearm and block the breach. If they can do this then you could keep a loaded gun with that adult present. But it should not be a surprise.
 
P.S. - I think it is true that in every state one can keep a loaded long gun in their home or shoot at a range with no licenses of any kind. It is only carrying the gun hidden on yourself that requires a CC license.
 
https://appleseedinfo.org/search-states-map.php

Wow I think to change my mind after read your argument about the importance of teaching gun safety to kids. Your reasons sounds right and it obviously state why kids need to know about it. But it will be harder if we are living in country that prohibit a gun in our home. Anyway, you have changed my view about gun to kids.

There is no such country...


Yeah maybe there is no country totally ban gun, the government state that to own a gun we must need a license. But since its hard to get the license and must through complicated procedures, I assume we can't get a gun in our home.


Nah. Can't be true.


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June 27, 2015, 09:39:43 AM
In my experience ignorance is more dangerous than knowledge. I think it makes sense to teach kids what to do if they find a gun. Just like they should learn to swim before falling into a lake. In the U.S. there are many free/cheap programs to teach youth gun safety. The apple seed project for example, or the hunter safety programs sponsored by most states.
 
Even though she is a fairly good shot, my wife has little interest in guns. But I insist on her visiting the range once and a while to keep up her basic safe handling skills. If there is going to be a loaded gun in the house then every family member should be able to:

1. Children or those who know nothing about guns should know to get an adult if they find a gun and know to stay near and keep any other children from touching it. Your guns should never be unattended or kept loaded with young children around.
2. Older children who have shot a gun may be trained to cover the gun with a bucket or something and guard it from other kids. But again, your guns should be locked up at all times when children are present.
3. Adults who are familiar with basic gun safety should be able to disarm a firearm and block the breach. If they can do this then you could keep a loaded gun with that adult present. But it should not be a surprise.
 
P.S. - I think it is true that in every state one can keep a loaded long gun in their home or shoot at a range with no licenses of any kind. It is only carrying the gun hidden on yourself that requires a CC license.
 
https://appleseedinfo.org/search-states-map.php

Wow I think to change my mind after read your argument about the importance of teaching gun safety to kids. Your reasons sounds right and it obviously state why kids need to know about it. But it will be harder if we are living in country that prohibit a gun in our home. Anyway, you have changed my view about gun to kids.

There is no such country...


Yeah maybe there is no country totally ban gun, the government state that to own a gun we must need a license. But since its hard to get the license and must through complicated procedures, I assume we can't get a gun in our home.
legendary
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June 27, 2015, 07:51:40 AM
In my experience ignorance is more dangerous than knowledge. I think it makes sense to teach kids what to do if they find a gun. Just like they should learn to swim before falling into a lake. In the U.S. there are many free/cheap programs to teach youth gun safety. The apple seed project for example, or the hunter safety programs sponsored by most states.
 
Even though she is a fairly good shot, my wife has little interest in guns. But I insist on her visiting the range once and a while to keep up her basic safe handling skills. If there is going to be a loaded gun in the house then every family member should be able to:

1. Children or those who know nothing about guns should know to get an adult if they find a gun and know to stay near and keep any other children from touching it. Your guns should never be unattended or kept loaded with young children around.
2. Older children who have shot a gun may be trained to cover the gun with a bucket or something and guard it from other kids. But again, your guns should be locked up at all times when children are present.
3. Adults who are familiar with basic gun safety should be able to disarm a firearm and block the breach. If they can do this then you could keep a loaded gun with that adult present. But it should not be a surprise.
 
P.S. - I think it is true that in every state one can keep a loaded long gun in their home or shoot at a range with no licenses of any kind. It is only carrying the gun hidden on yourself that requires a CC license.
 
https://appleseedinfo.org/search-states-map.php

Wow I think to change my mind after read your argument about the importance of teaching gun safety to kids. Your reasons sounds right and it obviously state why kids need to know about it. But it will be harder if we are living in country that prohibit a gun in our home. Anyway, you have changed my view about gun to kids.


There is no such country...


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