What's your opinion of gun control? - page 189.

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Quote from: tvbcof on July 24, 2015, 11:42:30 AM

Quote from: deluxeCITY on July 24, 2015, 11:10:39 AM

After seeing what happened last night at the movie theater in Lafayette I'm starting to believe that more gun control may be just what the doctor ordered. Watching the news everyone is talking about if more people carried guns then this type of incident wont happen as much. But picture this. Fifty people are watching a loud action packed movie then one guy gets up and start spraying the place. Now Imagine if twenty five of those thirty people had guns and they all drew their weapons to shoot the shooter. Now Twenty six people have guns in a dark movie theater and are shooting it out.

No matter how you slice that its an ugly ending. You need to worry about ricochet for the dozens of bullets, cross fire and what if someone "got to the party late" and took one of the good guys to be a bad guy. Oh my god it would be a disaster. I think I'll start taking the position that more gun control is needed from here on in.

This 'shooter' used fake ID's from time to time and had a bunch of wigs. He also changed his licence plate. Clearly we also need better bio-metric ID and tracking in cars (and, as always, more gun control and mental health surveillance.) I wonder how many millions of dollars the 'victim's' families and the cops will be receiving from this one in order to assist in their 'healing'.

We also need real justice. You hurt someone by breaking his arm... your arm is broken, plus you need to pay to make him well. You kill someone... you are executed, after you have been forced to pay off his family.

This doesn't include accidents that are truly accidents. These would be handled differently.

A theater shooter would act differently if he knew he was going to become a literal slave to pay off anyone he killed or harmed, before the same thing was done to him that he did to others.

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Quote from: sukamasoto on July 24, 2015, 11:42:18 AM

Gun is very restrict on my country. Nobody able to hold a gun without any valid license. If someone still want to do it, we have right to punish him/her into jail. I agree with that since when gun were being hold by criminals, our life are being at risk.
IMO, gun only for law enforcer not for civilian

Japan presumably? In terms of safety to your brothers and sisters and what little farmland you have, I'd say you should be more worried about who holds the keys to the nuclear power plants.

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Quote from: sukamasoto on July 24, 2015, 11:42:18 AM

Gun is very restrict on my country. Nobody able to hold a gun without any valid license. If someone still want to do it, we have right to punish him/her into jail. I agree with that since when gun were being hold by criminals, our life are being at risk.
IMO, gun only for law enforcer not for civilian

Gun control is the way governments assure themselves that they have control over the people to keep the people in slavery.

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Quote from: deluxeCITY on July 24, 2015, 11:10:39 AM

After seeing what happened last night at the movie theater in Lafayette I'm starting to believe that more gun control may be just what the doctor ordered. Watching the news everyone is talking about if more people carried guns then this type of incident wont happen as much. But picture this. Fifty people are watching a loud action packed movie then one guy gets up and start spraying the place. Now Imagine if twenty five of those thirty people had guns and they all drew their weapons to shoot the shooter. Now Twenty six people have guns in a dark movie theater and are shooting it out.

No matter how you slice that its an ugly ending. You need to worry about ricochet for the dozens of bullets, cross fire and what if someone "got to the party late" and took one of the good guys to be a bad guy. Oh my god it would be a disaster. I think I'll start taking the position that more gun control is needed from here on in.

This 'shooter' used fake ID's from time to time and had a bunch of wigs. He also changed his licence plate. Clearly we also need better bio-metric ID and tracking in cars (and, as always, more gun control and mental health surveillance.) I wonder how many millions of dollars the 'victim's' families and the cops will be receiving from this one in order to assist in their 'healing'.

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Gun is very restrict on my country. Nobody able to hold a gun without any valid license. If someone still want to do it, we have right to punish him/her into jail. I agree with that since when gun were being hold by criminals, our life are being at risk.
IMO, gun only for law enforcer not for civilian

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Quote from: deluxeCITY on July 24, 2015, 11:10:39 AM

After seeing what happened last night at the movie theater in Lafayette I'm starting to believe that more gun control may be just what the doctor ordered. Watching the news everyone is talking about if more people carried guns then this type of incident wont happen as much. But picture this. Fifty people are watching a loud action packed movie then one guy gets up and start spraying the place. Now Imagine if twenty five of those thirty people had guns and they all drew their weapons to shoot the shooter. Now Twenty six people have guns in a dark movie theater and are shooting it out.

No matter how you slice that its an ugly ending. You need to worry about ricochet for the dozens of bullets, cross fire and what if someone "got to the party late" and took one of the good guys to be a bad guy. Oh my god it would be a disaster. I think I'll start taking the position that more gun control is needed from here on in.

People are used to acting without guns. In order for there to be safety, things need to be changed gradually. People need to be required to wear guns when off their personal property. But it hast to be made to happen slowly so that folks get used to it.

Places like theaters need lock boxes where weapons are required to be locked in for folks to gain entry.

Anti-gun laws don't take guns away from anyone except the law abiding people, who wouldn't have shot anyone in a theater anyway.

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Quote from: MakingMoneyHoney on July 24, 2015, 11:17:47 AM

Quote from: deluxeCITY on July 24, 2015, 11:10:39 AM

After seeing what happened last night at the movie theater in Lafayette I'm starting to believe that more gun control may be just what the doctor ordered. Watching the news everyone is talking about if more people carried guns then this type of incident wont happen as much. But picture this. Fifty people are watching a loud action packed movie then one guy gets up and start spraying the place. Now Imagine if twenty five of those thirty people had guns and they all drew their weapons to shoot the shooter. Now Twenty six people have guns in a dark movie theater and are shooting it out.

No matter how you slice that its an ugly ending. You need to worry about ricochet for the dozens of bullets, cross fire and what if someone "got to the party late" and took one of the good guys to be a bad guy. Oh my god it would be a disaster. I think I'll start taking the position that more gun control is needed from here on in.

The criminals with illegal guns will still have ways of getting them. I literally just read a comment one minute ago... "So what about the family of five who were stabbed to death yesterday? Is gun control gonna prevent that?"

No gun control wont prevent that, but if I was unarmed I'd rather be attacked with a knife where I'd have a good chance of fighting off my attacker then be attacked with a gun.

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Quote from: deluxeCITY on July 24, 2015, 11:10:39 AM

After seeing what happened last night at the movie theater in Lafayette I'm starting to believe that more gun control may be just what the doctor ordered. Watching the news everyone is talking about if more people carried guns then this type of incident wont happen as much. But picture this. Fifty people are watching a loud action packed movie then one guy gets up and start spraying the place. Now Imagine if twenty five of those thirty people had guns and they all drew their weapons to shoot the shooter. Now Twenty six people have guns in a dark movie theater and are shooting it out.

No matter how you slice that its an ugly ending. You need to worry about ricochet for the dozens of bullets, cross fire and what if someone "got to the party late" and took one of the good guys to be a bad guy. Oh my god it would be a disaster. I think I'll start taking the position that more gun control is needed from here on in.

The criminals with illegal guns will still have ways of getting them. I literally just read a comment one minute ago... "So what about the family of five who were stabbed to death yesterday? Is gun control gonna prevent that?"

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After seeing what happened last night at the movie theater in Lafayette I'm starting to believe that more gun control may be just what the doctor ordered. Watching the news everyone is talking about if more people carried guns then this type of incident wont happen as much. But picture this. Fifty people are watching a loud action packed movie then one guy gets up and start spraying the place. Now Imagine if twenty five of those thirty people had guns and they all drew their weapons to shoot the shooter. Now Twenty six people have guns in a dark movie theater and are shooting it out.

No matter how you slice that its an ugly ending. You need to worry about ricochet for the dozens of bullets, cross fire and what if someone "got to the party late" and took one of the good guys to be a bad guy. Oh my god it would be a disaster. I think I'll start taking the position that more gun control is needed from here on in.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on July 24, 2015, 09:44:32 AM

Quote from: btcjoin14 on July 24, 2015, 08:51:27 AM

Gun's don't cause violence. If violent people want to go crazy and kill people, they'll find ways to do it with or without guns.

Exactly. Check this table:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_murder_rate

The gun ownership rates in every single one out of the top 10 cities on that list is less than that in the United States. For example, the gun ownership rate in Honduras is 6 per 100, while that in the US is 89 per 100.

Even the children have squirt guns. Cheesy

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Gun control has to do with turning your guns on everyone who has a different opinion about your idea of gun control.

Cheesy

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Quote from: btcjoin14 on July 24, 2015, 08:51:27 AM

Gun's don't cause violence. If violent people want to go crazy and kill people, they'll find ways to do it with or without guns.

Exactly. Check this table:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_murder_rate

The gun ownership rates in every single one out of the top 10 cities on that list is less than that in the United States. For example, the gun ownership rate in Honduras is 6 per 100, while that in the US is 89 per 100.

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I support that civilians should be allowed to have fire-arms in their homes so long as that person has a license. "Guns are a tool." Guns don't kill people... People kill people

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Gun's don't cause violence. If violent people want to go crazy and kill people, they'll find ways to do it with or without guns.

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Quote from: jayce on June 28, 2015, 12:04:28 AM

Quote from: Wilikon on June 27, 2015, 05:05:05 PM

Well... The second amendment does not exist in a vacuum. Also your government could be inspired by the Swiss if not a fan of the U.S.
I am not going to copy paste the whole article and you should not trust my link and do your own research regarding this subject. Some country trust their own citizens more than others. Citizens understand to never trust a government that forbids you to defend themselves and their loved ones.

http://www.guncite.com/swissgun-kopel.html

Thanks, I got some tips there, then I found an interested quote from the article, so I put here

"Cultural conditions, not gun laws, are the most important factors in a nation's crime rate. Young adults in Washington, D.C., are subject to strict gun control, but no social control, and they commit a staggering amount of armed crime. Young adults in Zurich are subject to minimal gun control, but strict social control, and they commit almost no crime.

America-with its traditions of individual liberty-cannot import Switzerland's culture of social control. Teenagers, women, and almost everyone else have more freedom in America than in Switzerland."

So, maybe that's why US government don't trust you to bear a gun, and made a complicated procedures for society to get it. Do you still wanna get your right for it? US people have more freedom, and now want to get a weapon.

Anyway, thanks for your interesting article.

Power to the people...

The 2nd amendment was NEVER created for hunting ducks and rabbits...

Correction: that is why whoever is in power wants more power and less for you. Don't forget: the founding fathers, all of them came from Europe... They came from countries with kings and emperors. They knew their history and ancient history.

Now your position could be: it is old history. We have democracies everywhere. No need for this mentality anymore.
Have you seen what is going on in greece? Italy and 10000 new migrants per week? Things will not stay the same. History is in a constant flux, as the minds of people...
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/04/italian-coastguard-rescues-10000-migrants-week-150415192547203.html

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Well, my opinion on guns reflects those of (then president) Bill Clinton on abortions.

Among civilians, they should be rare and also perfectly legal.

You cant solve human irresponsibility by government repressions against law abidding citizens.

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Quote from: Wilikon on June 27, 2015, 05:05:05 PM

Well... The second amendment does not exist in a vacuum. Also your government could be inspired by the Swiss if not a fan of the U.S.
I am not going to copy paste the whole article and you should not trust my link and do your own research regarding this subject. Some country trust their own citizens more than others. Citizens understand to never trust a government that forbids you to defend themselves and their loved ones.

http://www.guncite.com/swissgun-kopel.html

Thanks, I got some tips there, then I found an interested quote from the article, so I put here

"Cultural conditions, not gun laws, are the most important factors in a nation's crime rate. Young adults in Washington, D.C., are subject to strict gun control, but no social control, and they commit a staggering amount of armed crime. Young adults in Zurich are subject to minimal gun control, but strict social control, and they commit almost no crime.

America-with its traditions of individual liberty-cannot import Switzerland's culture of social control. Teenagers, women, and almost everyone else have more freedom in America than in Switzerland."

So, maybe that's why US government don't trust you to bear a gun, and made a complicated procedures for society to get it. Do you still wanna get your right for it? US people have more freedom, and now want to get a weapon.

Anyway, thanks for your interesting article.

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Quote from: txbtc on June 27, 2015, 05:33:05 PM

Our guns aren't going anywhere, the Govt. is not capable of taking them all. It's logistically not feasible.

1- forced gun registration. Name. Address, etc.
2- confiscation
3- think of the children and the new classrooms that will be created with all those destroyed guns people!!!!

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Our guns aren't going anywhere, the Govt. is not capable of taking them all. It's logistically not feasible.

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Quote from: Wilikon on June 27, 2015, 12:55:22 PM

Quote from: jayce on June 27, 2015, 11:32:26 AM

Quote from: Wilikon on June 27, 2015, 10:19:33 AM

I could give you some tips if I knew the laws of your country. But I do not.

Well we can start with your country now, I will listen you. Maybe, the tips can work in my country, if someday I want get a gun. I am curious how can you be confident about your tips.

My tip:

Will this work in your country?

You would think so, but in u.s. its most people just the rejects from other countries. See my sig

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