What's your opinion of gun control? - page 59.

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Gun Makers Work Around California's New "Assault Weapons" Ban

Quote from: http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/gun-makers-work-around-californias-new-assault-weapons-ban_06222017

California’s draconian new gun laws will require residents of the Golden state to register their “assault weapons” with the state (which they will have to pay to do of course) by the end of the year. But thanks to capitalism and the free market, gun makers have already figured out workarounds.

One of the new laws labels an “assault weapon” as any gun that doesn’t have a fixed magazine. So Franklin Armory owner Jay Jacobson invented “Drop in Fixed Magazine” or DFM. Jacobson had demonstrated his patented new device which is designed to get around the state’s new “assault weapons” law. The new law clamps down on a previous device known as a bullet button to Californians. The bullet button was a workaround for an earlier ban on rifles with detachable and quickly reloadable ammunition magazines. The DFM invention is actually ingenious for those stuck in the Golden state. The magazine is fixed from the bottom as the law requires; but it can come out the top, technically legal because it involves partially disassembling the gun. It’s a workaround that still allows shooters to quickly reload with very little delay.

If curious as to how the magazine works, watch the below video.

Franklin Armory DFM Magazine Review

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3Z0-XcULLY

Read more at http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/gun-makers-work-around-californias-new-assault-weapons-ban_06222017.

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it's useless, people can still find other ways to kill

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Quote from: Aggressor66 on June 19, 2015, 03:31:29 AM

Guns are made for one purpose, and that purpose is to kill.
I believe that guns are not weapons, they are tools. How they are used is up to the person holding it.
Guns are especially dangerous in the hands of people who don't know how to use them (i.e., kids and teenagers) as well as those who are mentally ill and/or have a temper problem.
Gun control will not stop violence because a violent person doesn’t need a gun to be violent.
After the Sandy Hook Elementary shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, support for gun control increased dramatically.

Generally in America, the support for gun control has outweighed the support for gun rights.
Are gun control laws constitutional?
What would be your ideal set of laws regarding firearms?

I think gun control is a must law of one's country. But we can't stop many illegal sellers of guns because there are many people making them. I think it is better of there are only one main source of gun, with that it will be safe and easy to track.

100% gun control can't exist. It is a utopia. At all times there is a demand for weapons, which means there will be supply. The more restrictions on legal weapons the more you will be in the hands of illegal guns.

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In America, We Shoot Back

Quote from: https://www.lewrockwell.com/2017/06/no_author/we-shoot-back/

Ft Collins, CO – "The first five seconds are more important than the next five hours"

Last weeks' shooting incident in VA:

I won't comment on a motive of the single shooting suspect (now deceased), as these facts have been reported elsewhere.

I will comment on tactics:

Representative Mike Bishop (R-MI), who was there, said this in a radio interview:

"The only reason any of us walked out of this thing, by the grace of God, one of the folks here had a weapon to fire back and gave us a moment to find cover. We were inside the backstop, and if we didn't have that cover by a brave person who stood up and took a shot themselves, we would not have gotten out of there, and every one of us would have been hit, every single one of us."

Representative Rodney Davis (R-IL) added:

"… would have been a lot worse without Steve Scalise's (security) detail. They immediately began returning fire. They were the true heroes. They fired back"

Scalise's bodyguards [Uniformed Capitol Police] where apparently the ones to which Mike Bishop (above) was referring.

Uniformed Capitol Police were on the scene, and apparently fired at the suspect. Uniformed APD officers arrived within minutes and could have fired at the suspect too.

In any event, the suspect was fatally wounded at some point, but perhaps dissuaded (maybe wounded too) by return fire at a much earlier point, as Mike Bishop indicated.

Points everyone needs to take away from this:

1) Decisive and IMMEDIATE return fire doubtless prevented a much larger massacre.

2) Those who go armed routinely, and have IMMEDIATE access to guns, are the only ones who can possibly influence these kinds of terrorist incidents in any meaningful way.

Read more at https://www.lewrockwell.com/2017/06/no_author/we-shoot-back/.

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Quote from: Turbanshee on June 22, 2017, 02:36:22 PM

I am a European. I cannot understand why Americans want to have so many people owning guns. I can see that yu want the freedom to do that, but I don't trust that everyone or even the majority of people can be trusted with a way to easily kill lots of people quickly.
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Looks to me like the social engineers have arranged a situation in Euro-land where there will be a high enough percentage of people who can become jihadist to about match the native populations who indoctrinated against self defense. In combat effectiveness, that is. That's one way to achieve a more sustainable population density I suppose. Fun to watch too...for certain types of people at least. Also pretty financially lucrative as well for those who can play the future with some insider information.

Nobody seemed to think to wonder about those crates of shotguns intercepted on their way from Italy to Belgium a year or two ago.

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Quote from: Aggressor66 on June 19, 2015, 03:31:29 AM

Guns are made for one purpose, and that purpose is to kill.
I believe that guns are not weapons, they are tools. How they are used is up to the person holding it.
Guns are especially dangerous in the hands of people who don't know how to use them (i.e., kids and teenagers) as well as those who are mentally ill and/or have a temper problem.
Gun control will not stop violence because a violent person doesn’t need a gun to be violent.
After the Sandy Hook Elementary shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, support for gun control increased dramatically.

Generally in America, the support for gun control has outweighed the support for gun rights.
Are gun control laws constitutional?
What would be your ideal set of laws regarding firearms?

I think gun control is a must law of one's country. But we can't stop many illegal sellers of guns because there are many people making them. I think it is better of there are only one main source of gun, with that it will be safe and easy to track.

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Quote from: Turbanshee on June 22, 2017, 02:36:22 PM

I am a European. I cannot understand why Americans want to have so many people owning guns. I can see that yu want the freedom to do that, but I don't trust that everyone or even the majority of people can be trusted with a way to easily kill lots of people quickly.

In England people fight and there is knife crime, but generally you can pretty much run away from danger if someone goes crazy. If someone comes with a semi-automatic weapon and starts spraying bullets around, I can run, but bullets are faster.

I wouldn't allow any hand guns, or automatic/semi-automatic weapons to be carried on the street or owned by anyone without serious assessment done in advance. Americans will probably disagree, but I don't see these good guys with guns overwhelming the bad guys with guns, as good guys don't want to shoot people!

The answer is simple. A gun is an equalizer against crime.

Most criminals pick on someone they think is weak. They have reasons for thinking a person is weak. A gun makes everyone strong enough to fight off the criminal.

Lots of guns in the hands of citizens, make a crook government leader think twice before he tries to take over the country.

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I am a European. I cannot understand why Americans want to have so many people owning guns. I can see that yu want the freedom to do that, but I don't trust that everyone or even the majority of people can be trusted with a way to easily kill lots of people quickly.

In England people fight and there is knife crime, but generally you can pretty much run away from danger if someone goes crazy. If someone comes with a semi-automatic weapon and starts spraying bullets around, I can run, but bullets are faster.

I wouldn't allow any hand guns, or automatic/semi-automatic weapons to be carried on the street or owned by anyone without serious assessment done in advance. Americans will probably disagree, but I don't see these good guys with guns overwhelming the bad guys with guns, as good guys don't want to shoot people!

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Regarding Philando Castile:
It IS About The Gun –
Not Race, Not BOLOs, and Not Marijuana

Quote from: http://www.thedailysheeple.com/regarding-philando-castile-it-is-about-the-gun-not-race-not-bolos-and-not-marijuana_062017

But we are about punch holes in that theory and the theory that marijuana is a viable reason to decline someone their right to not only life; but to a jury of their peers.

Thanks to the horrible "reporting" from some sites (some known for propagating biased, fake news), many people assumed there was a warrant out for Philando Castile's arrest, so the cop had good reason to snuff out his life. Yet, oddly enough, they don't say that a BOLO (Be On The Lookout) is far from an arrest warrant. That distinction matters – a lot.

The people who claim to be for the protection of rights, smaller government, and more liberty seem to be casting those preferences aside when it comes to Castile's case. They are all for the execution of those who "fit BOLO descriptions" as long as the "thin blue line," aka, the government's enforcement arm, is the one who does the slaughtering.

Read more at http://www.thedailysheeple.com/regarding-philando-castile-it-is-about-the-gun-not-race-not-bolos-and-not-marijuana_062017.

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What is the difference between who and what will people kill each other? Still will be killed and will punish for it, and if you need someone for a crime and weapons, it will find it all the same. And it will not necessarily be legal. So the legalization of weapons is a question that goes away with itself.

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Quote from: hovrah on June 17, 2017, 01:01:21 PM

Quote from: Wa(t)ch_night() on June 17, 2017, 12:47:30 AM

Quote from: blueangel01 on June 16, 2017, 11:16:18 PM

Quote from: Aggressor66 on June 19, 2015, 03:31:29 AM

Guns are made for one purpose, and that purpose is to kill.
I believe that guns are not weapons, they are tools. How they are used is up to the person holding it.
Guns are especially dangerous in the hands of people who don't know how to use them (i.e., kids and teenagers) as well as those who are mentally ill and/or have a temper problem.
Gun control will not stop violence because a violent person doesn’t need a gun to be violent.
After the Sandy Hook Elementary shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, support for gun control increased dramatically.

Generally in America, the support for gun control has outweighed the support for gun rights.
Are gun control laws constitutional?
What would be your ideal set of laws regarding firearms?

There should be specific requirements/law before a person can buy or own a gun. Here in our country there are lots people who have illegal possession of fire arms. they don't have the permit yet they use guns. Yes, having a gun is a big help especially in what is happening in the world right now. We can use it as self defense yet we must be educated first before using this. One of the problems is that some cant control there tempers and irresponsibly use their guns. Lets be educated, aware and be responsible

This issue has always had different disagreements, this is the only way to protect yourself and your family.

I think that the gun in the house and the protection of your family have much in common, But the fact that you will feel protected, is nothing more than an illusion. What we can do with a weapon in our hands can provoke more misfortune than the one we want to prevent.

In other words, if you're gonna die, it's a whole lot easier if you just lie down and die, than if you fight it out first.

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Quote from: Wa(t)ch_night() on June 17, 2017, 12:47:30 AM

Quote from: blueangel01 on June 16, 2017, 11:16:18 PM

Quote from: Aggressor66 on June 19, 2015, 03:31:29 AM

Guns are made for one purpose, and that purpose is to kill.
I believe that guns are not weapons, they are tools. How they are used is up to the person holding it.
Guns are especially dangerous in the hands of people who don't know how to use them (i.e., kids and teenagers) as well as those who are mentally ill and/or have a temper problem.
Gun control will not stop violence because a violent person doesn’t need a gun to be violent.
After the Sandy Hook Elementary shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, support for gun control increased dramatically.

Generally in America, the support for gun control has outweighed the support for gun rights.
Are gun control laws constitutional?
What would be your ideal set of laws regarding firearms?

There should be specific requirements/law before a person can buy or own a gun. Here in our country there are lots people who have illegal possession of fire arms. they don't have the permit yet they use guns. Yes, having a gun is a big help especially in what is happening in the world right now. We can use it as self defense yet we must be educated first before using this. One of the problems is that some cant control there tempers and irresponsibly use their guns. Lets be educated, aware and be responsible

This issue has always had different disagreements, this is the only way to protect yourself and your family.

I think that the gun in the house and the protection of your family have much in common, But the fact that you will feel protected, is nothing more than an illusion. What we can do with a weapon in our hands can provoke more misfortune than the one we want to prevent.

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Quote from: blueangel01 on June 16, 2017, 11:16:18 PM

Quote from: Aggressor66 on June 19, 2015, 03:31:29 AM

Guns are made for one purpose, and that purpose is to kill.
I believe that guns are not weapons, they are tools. How they are used is up to the person holding it.
Guns are especially dangerous in the hands of people who don't know how to use them (i.e., kids and teenagers) as well as those who are mentally ill and/or have a temper problem.
Gun control will not stop violence because a violent person doesn’t need a gun to be violent.
After the Sandy Hook Elementary shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, support for gun control increased dramatically.

Generally in America, the support for gun control has outweighed the support for gun rights.
Are gun control laws constitutional?
What would be your ideal set of laws regarding firearms?

There should be specific requirements/law before a person can buy or own a gun. Here in our country there are lots people who have illegal possession of fire arms. they don't have the permit yet they use guns. Yes, having a gun is a big help especially in what is happening in the world right now. We can use it as self defense yet we must be educated first before using this. One of the problems is that some cant control there tempers and irresponsibly use their guns. Lets be educated, aware and be responsible

This issue has always had different disagreements, this is the only way to protect yourself and your family.

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Quote from: Aggressor66 on June 19, 2015, 03:31:29 AM

Guns are made for one purpose, and that purpose is to kill.
I believe that guns are not weapons, they are tools. How they are used is up to the person holding it.
Guns are especially dangerous in the hands of people who don't know how to use them (i.e., kids and teenagers) as well as those who are mentally ill and/or have a temper problem.
Gun control will not stop violence because a violent person doesn’t need a gun to be violent.
After the Sandy Hook Elementary shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, support for gun control increased dramatically.

Generally in America, the support for gun control has outweighed the support for gun rights.
Are gun control laws constitutional?
What would be your ideal set of laws regarding firearms?

There should be specific requirements/law before a person can buy or own a gun. Here in our country there are lots people who have illegal possession of fire arms. they don't have the permit yet they use guns. Yes, having a gun is a big help especially in what is happening in the world right now. We can use it as self defense yet we must be educated first before using this. One of the problems is that some cant control there tempers and irresponsibly use their guns. Lets be educated, aware and be responsible

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Quote from: Edrian on June 16, 2017, 09:25:08 PM

I support gun control, only people who need guns are the army and policeman. If you own your gun you should have a right permit. Some people own a gun without discipline so gun control is needed.

Google "police brutality." I got almost 8 million hits. Think of how many hits there would be if cops knew that people didn't have guns.

But. The biggest thing about gun control isn't the guns. The biggest thing is taking away property rights.

This thing you call a gun that I am holding, isn't a gun. It looks like a gun. It has bullets in it. But it is my property. You can call it whatever you want. But it is my property. And you don't have any right or claim to my property without my agreement.

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Quote from: criptix on June 16, 2017, 09:16:30 PM

Quote from: BADecker on June 16, 2017, 07:28:26 PM

^^^ The gun is the equalizer.

Consider the 230 pound muscleman brute who is attacking the 90 pound granny.

Let's say there are no guns. What weapon will granny be able to use to protect herself? A bow and arrows?; perhaps. A knife?; not likely. And certainly not if the brute has the same weapons.

If both have guns, granny has a chance.

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Never heard of tai chi and kung fu grannies?
They could easily beat every us delta force member!

Search at youtube!!!!!!11111oneoneone

Okay. So we have 1 or 2 tai chi and kung fu grannies.

Laugh it up, fuzzball.

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I support gun control, only people who need guns are the army and policeman. If you own your gun you should have a right permit. Some people own a gun without discipline so gun control is needed.

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Quote from: BADecker on June 16, 2017, 07:28:26 PM

^^^ The gun is the equalizer.

Consider the 230 pound muscleman brute who is attacking the 90 pound granny.

Let's say there are no guns. What weapon will granny be able to use to protect herself? A bow and arrows?; perhaps. A knife?; not likely. And certainly not if the brute has the same weapons.

If both have guns, granny has a chance.

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Never heard of tai chi and kung fu grannies?
They could easily beat every us delta force member!

Search at youtube!!!!!!11111oneoneone

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^^^ The gun is the equalizer.

Consider the 230 pound muscleman brute who is attacking the 90 pound granny.

Let's say there are no guns. What weapon will granny be able to use to protect herself? A bow and arrows?; perhaps. A knife?; not likely. And certainly not if the brute has the same weapons.

If both have guns, granny has a chance.

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