Topic: What's your view on this? Is it fun or addiction? - page 14. (Read 2081 times)

You are obviously a loser when you fund gambling with debt. You should never gamble with money that you loaned, it is a recipe for disaster. We saw this when people started buying Crypto currencies with credit cards and then those tokens failed and they were stuck with the debt.

I would not make jokes about things like this, because people might interpret this as something very different and they will take loans to gamble. You should say something on this group to stop these kind of posts.    

Don't think it's addiction to gamble every weekend, after a stressful week. Gamblers are expected to have fun with fellow gamblers and share techniques and ideas that can save them from getting addicted. One risk I perceived from the idea of sharing predictions is, that a few members of the WhatsApp group would depend on those predictions or the prediction of the last winner and stake money on it, trusting it, and hoping they'll win. Hence the player can wager a huge amount that he's not sure of winning. Other than that I'd say it's fun. But the picture Op shared in his thread discloses another risk factor that affects the members of such a group. And more of such memes would be shared often in the group. Members of the group may be responsible gamblers, but the message the memes are passing to the group members is quite dangerous to the brains of the new gamblers in the group. As they may not be able to detect the condition of all the participants of the WhatsApp channel.

I'd suggest that such a group should center on positive discussions able to change the perspective of every gambler in the group not to borrow to gamble and also gamble with their spare cash. Peer pressure in gambling can be disadvantageous if the friends we keep don't follow responsible gambling measures. Taking loans just to win and please our friends will make us less productive in the workplace or school. Young gamblers who start taking loans, how long would they sustain such ill behavior, before they stop? When they can't meet up with paying back the borrowed money, it'll be a bad experience for the gambler. Addiction can also follow transient fun, as the happiness of the gambler will only be short, and when he gets to his normal senses, he'd hate his actions and blame his friends for not being positive in their gambling advice. We may be strong in keeping our disciplines in gambling, but we have to respect the vulnerabilities of others in our clique who may not possess the same self-control qualities as us, and, we must keep responsible gambling as the primary discussion when with follow gamblers.

The quote you provided is surely just a gambling joke for entertainment. We usually have this kind of joke in our social media before when online sabong becomes popular here. There’s nothing wrong with it if you knew that this is just a gambling joke stating the obvious don’t on gambling.

Taking it seriously while all of you is gambler defeats its purpose because the author knew that everyone will understand the message behind the joke which is the irony of its meaning and not the literal statement.

I don't really think this is an addiction thing.  It seems more like a sketchy ad trying to get gamblers to bet the wrong way.  That could ruin their lives by getting them into debt if they take out loans to keep gambling.   

These ads prey on gamblers who are prone to addiction or bad choices already.  Getting them buried in debt only makes everything worse.  There's a chance it could be sarcasm or a joke, but if an individual puts gambling above other significant things, then maybe that person has a gambling addiction. Since when is gambling so vital that you need to take out a loan just to keep gambling?

Predictions in the departmental WA group sounds fun and adding a prize on top of that is what makes it competitive. That is the driving force behind the risk taking attitude and hence gambling. The way to make a game popular is to make it look like you are competing with other people and hence put up a scoreboard system or a community ranking system. That way every player feels that they need to beat the person ahead of them and they will continue to play and remain addicted to the game. It is how the mind works.

It should be fun as long it is kept under control that subscription price is kept reasonable enough with everyone donating the pot.

Who ever made that post in the screenshot posted by op is just being sarcastic, it's nothing to be taken serious, only a very stupid person will take such post or advice serious and go on gambling when clearly he or she doesn't, or take a break.

I personally have come across such post or advice as shared by the op, sometimes, while chatting with a friend concerning gambling and we are discussing our various gambling loses we experienced recently, one of us usually post such comment and we wil just laugh over it, every sensible gambler knows that it is completely immoral to gamble with a borrowed fund, or to go seeking for loan solely for gambling purposes.

Your co-workers only engage in gambling on the weekends and whether they are addicted or not is likely only you and them who know about it.

If at this point you further emphasize that you are a gambler in various fields then I am sure you are an addicted gambler, but the difference is that you can handle it well. But the unpleasant part is when you are involved in gambling using loans and this is not good behavior for a gambler. If the gambling placement is much more addictive by relying on loans, it will give rise to many problems later.

i saw that the post was sarcasm expressed by one of the group just for fun, but it was also to remind you in the group that he was no longer comfortable gambling anymore. because even though the gambling you are doing is just for fun, it has entered the addiction stage because without you realizing it, you have been doing this for 2 years in a row and that is quite a long time. and you have spent a lot of money just for that alone.

it's a good idea to ask your friends whether they want to continue betting again or not, because maybe there is someone who is no longer comfortable gambling with you but he is reluctant to say so.

If we assume that gambling and betting are routine activities that must be done every week, and prioritize gambling activities over other things that are more important than just gambling, then this already shows that we are experiencing an addiction to gambling.

And at first glance what OP said in the post seemed like a joke. But if someone prioritizes gambling over other important things, then it could be that someone is experiencing a gambling addiction. Because how important is gambling that you have to take out a loan to be able to continue gambling. And isn't it...... we can still find other things that are more fun than gambling?

If in conditions we don't have enough money to be able to gamble, then it would be better if we skip these activities. Because of stupid things that often happen to everyone, they destroy all the money they have playing gambling. In other words, he determines his fate in gambling. When gambling we talk about possibilities, so we can ensure that every time we gamble, we will win. Because no matter how good we are at gambling, it cannot guarantee that we will continue to win.

I highly agree with your recommendation and I would also recommend the same to the gamblers because spending a lot of money on gambling or getting loans to start gambling is the worst thing that anyone can do. Gambling is already a risky thing especially for those who aren't good at it and a new gambler or an addicted gambler when takes loans to gamble more then the new gambler will get addicted to gambling and the addicted gambler's addiction will get more intense.

A gambler should learn about gambling responsibility and he/she should gamble with limits. One should risk at least 1% to 4% of one's earnings into gambling but no more than that and if a gambler wins some money during a gambling session then they should not increase the bets according to the winnings. The bets should still be small until one gets good at gambling.

Let's suppose a gambler has deposited $10 into his/her account then he/she should place small bets in start to get familiar with the platform that he/she is using for gambling. And once the gambler gets some familiarity with the platform then the gambler should slowly increase the bets and follow a good strategy. That way a gambler will never get addicted to gambling and will continue to enjoy the fun part of gambling and at the same time he/she might earn some money if his/her luck is good and the bets go well.

For those of us who think of it as fun and gambling is entertainment then there will be no influence whatsoever in any losses that occur but aren't most gamblers just about having fun and most of them are out to make money.
From this it can be concluded that each person with different goals will also get different results and influences, for those whose goal is to make money, it is clear that losing is something that cannot be accepted.
I completely agree with you in all of these statements but I will still confirm that the impact and influence of each final result will affect some people depending on their goals in entering gambling.
It is true that subscribing will not have any effect and everything is just entertainment and for fun, but again, this kind of attitude and thinking will never be shared by everyone.

that is someone who has a gambling problem or maybe a full-blown addiction, they usually use the phrase "You are one bet away from winning big" to justify their bad betting habits.

I've seen that phrase a lot of TikTok being posted on videos where people are documenting their recovery from gambling addiction, it is disgusting to see people try and pull someone down from their journey to recovery from gambling addiction.

In fact, I don't see this as addiction. I see this as a malicious advertisement aiming to encourage gamblers, and especially the most naive and inexperienced ones, to bet on the wrong manner which will disgrace their lives completely, in the worst possible way, through taking loans and creating debt on long run with banks or loan sharks. Someone doing this may find himself with a huge and unpayable debt with banks, what will make them unable to close another businesses, like the purchase and financing of houses, cars, opening of companies and unable to become a guarantor of someone else in a university's monthly tuition, for an example. This person will be resumed to nothing or to a noxious, leprous individual towards financial institutions.

And if the loan is going to be taken from a loan shark the situation is even worse, because many of those guys don't accept remaining in loss. They go after debtors, doesn't matter where the they are, blackmail them, their family and everyone who is close to them. In case they still don't repay the loan, the consequences can get more serious, potentially reaching to murder for debt reasons.

If it was meant to be funny, the creator of the content failed miserably...

If you look at the text on the sign then this is more addictive than fun, just look at the message they say by taking out a loan then you say obliging bets every week then this is certainly addictive because for fun you are free at any time to bet without having to target a certain time.

I don't know if this is a regular joke like you said or just a moral message to keep betting? Basically taking a loan to trade is not recommended let alone a loan to gamble is certainly not recommended, this is my own perspective because other people's judgment is always different even though taking a loan is a good move.

So gambling as much as possible should be with small money, then this will not be a burden for you.

For me, it's having fun as the stake involved is something that everyone can afford to lose, it may be safe from the looks of it but we don't know what its impact is on every participant, they may be having fun but after the group parted ways some of them will play on other platforms to fulfill their hunger for gambling because they already tasted the excitement and the rewards of betting, but the bottom line always is as long as they are not adding more than what they agreed, in this case, a subscription there's no problem and the group is just having fun.

Some people might take it as fun, but some people might be addicted to gambling through it. Some people who are addicted to gambling don't even know about their addiction, they will think they are just gambling for fun, but they are addicted to gambling. Some people in the group might not be addicted, and some of them will be addicted to gambling. There is a statement that I see in the picture that you posted which is, take a loan and keep on staking. It does not really make sense to me.

Why will you take a loan and keep on staking? It's really wrong, even if it's a joke, things like that shouldn't be joked with, someone might end up seeing it and they might think you are serious, taking a loan to gamble is completely wrong, gambling shouldn't be a do-or-die affair, if you are losing and you already exceeded the amount you will be gambling with, then the best thing to do is just stop gambling, you shouldn't even think about taking a loan to gamble, it's kind of crazy to me.

Can't call that addiction unless you see that guy suffering from mental and financial loss. At that stage maybe he is playing around or trolling then want to have fun with people reading his message so don't take it more badly since as long as you know the consequences of your action and you will not listen to anyone especially on this kind of messages then you are fine. Then maybe try to be humorous to and reply to him some nasty words about what he just said for sure both of you will get a lot of fun especially if he can catch up with your joke.

Also for sure your friends doesn't take that message seriously since provably same as you they are also a experience bettor since as you said they gamble every weekend so for sure they know the consequences of what they possibly to happen if they commit huge mistakes on their hobby.

For beginners, the quote seems like something that is sarcastic, and it could as well make them look like desperate people if they apply it entirely without caution, of course it is believed that every gambler is one step away in making generational wealth, but taking a loan for gambling, it's something i wouldn't recommend, it is good to only gamble with what you can afford to lose not going to take loan because loan is subject to repayment, so what if you don't win because as a gambler is not every game that you will win, how do you repay your loan if you haven't won any game.

On a personal level I see it to be a joke because where am from sometimes we don't get advise directly, it comes the opposite way, e.g Churchill use a the money I kept in the bank and gamble... Don't stop gambling untill the money finishes. To a normal person it's reads the normal understanding but for us over here it's either a warning that do not touch the money in the bank for any reason or for gambling sake.

And exactly that is how I feel the message was presented in the group as a warning from the opposite view that you shouldn't get addicted to gambling.

But instead of getting further reaction that might lead to regret it shouldn't be published to a group where gamblers  converse.

Joking in gambling discussions is not a wise thing, I really don't like the message sent by OP's colleague as in the screenshot, it's ok when everyone in the group isn't a regular gambler, but what if someone is already addicted? the person will definitely take the message as a suggestion and will most likely become a problem gambler.