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legendary
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First the message is very wrong. I know that this may be them joking around but then gambling addiction is not something that should be joked with or taken lightly.

From my estimation, I think that these guys in the WhatsApp group are not addicted. They are only doing it for the fun of it. By the way, who provides the reward money. Secondly, since it is not profit making venture we cannot say it is an actual gambling.

In my opinion gambling addiction as well as other addictions has several stages and many gamblers who have the first stage, which is manifested by an attraction to gambling, do not even realize it. Therefore, it is difficult to say whether these people have gambling addiction. The only way to find out is to limit yourself for a while from gambling and watch yourself. If your desire to gamble overpowers you, then you clearly already have a first degree gambling addiction. At least I think so.
hero member
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Do you see this as addiction or just catching of fun?

Mind you, we just enjoy the moment and might just joke around with people making predictions based on the teams,  they love but we are mostly gamblers at our different ends.

This best describes on what I call the "gambler's cycle" where a gambler cannot escape the endless cycle of winning/losing.

In this cycle, a person's initial reaction whenever they win or lose is to gamble again; a person gambles again if they won to see if they can continue the streak; and a person gambles again if he/she losses in order to recover such lost by gambling again. Unfortunately, this cycle continues until the person exhausts his/her resources to the point that they believe that they would win the more they bet.

Personally, I find this as an addiction especially that the person copes by thinking that the next bet that he makes would result in a win.
hero member
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Troll or not, its not really that something new with these kind of post on which we do have those kind of post on where it turns out to be that something imaginary or something that it is really that
not something that usually happens on day to day living. If we do tend to look at on whats the post of op on which he's really that worrying about getting addicted but basing on the image that he had posted that signifies that you should be playing more or simply a line on where an addicted person would really be having then it would really be just that that contradictory on having
this kind of saying on which it totally opposes on the idea or things that you've been trying out to ask on which we can actually say that he's really indeed trolling.

The addiction was the negative side of the gambling,the gambler should agree this.Because many people had loss their money,life savings in the gambling.If they didn’t have a good luck in the gambling site,the money using will be loss.Then what that person will do for their weekly expenses,it will be the biggest question mark.So the gamblers shouldn’t get addicted to gambling site,even he might loss 1000 dollars.The solution to gambling addiction will be accepting the loss and pain.Just move to your real life from the gambling site.

In fairness, you have the guts to say those things. Maybe most people who read your post that this is negative may come to the minds of other communities here on this platform. But anyway, for me, there is no need to say that on platforms like this.

If someone wants to gamble, it's up to them whether it's for fun or because they have an addiction to gambling. But I don't agree with taking a loan just to use it for gambling; I really don't agree with that.

The true fact is if the gambler get into gambling,he should to bear the loss.If they don’t want any the loss from the gambling site,he should not get into gambling with the motive of earning some money from the same gambling site.Risk was key in the gambling site.
hero member
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What a terrible suggestion. I always say that it's terrible when someone wants to take a loan and use it for gambling. People never learn about the mistakes of their own and even with the others. It's not that bad to gamble and keep on staking but what's bad is if you come to that point that you're asking for a loan so that you can continue gambling. That's how it goes and will make you bad at all.

The person who does loans and gambles is the one who's already addicted. Coming with the person who's giving this motivation is probably also addicted. He just wants to let others take the same vibe as him that they should take loans and gamble with them. Come on, that type of sharing isn't the best thing to share with others because you'll never know if that's going to do any good to you. We've seen a lot of stories that they're confirmed addicted when they've done such things and they cannot control themselves. So, if it's not just all words and talk and there's an application of it, then no doubt that person whoever takes that advise is addicted.
sr. member
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If someone wants to gamble, it's up to them whether it's for fun or because they have an addiction to gambling. But I don't agree with taking a loan just to use it for gambling; I really don't agree with that.
Taking of loan to gamble is something that an addicted person will deem fine and I doubt that he would ever see it as wrong but  we all know that's it crazy to gamble with money someone actually borrowed you because gamble isn't something that guarantee's 100% income and the process can make you go more in dept. Money that is borrowed should be only used for cases of emergency and nothing else, as in when there is absolutely desperate need for it.

Not because he thinks it's okay, but he really doesn't realize the bad things he's doing. This can happen because there are three underlying factors, namely Habit, Addiction and Hypocrisy. Firstly, when someone is used to carrying out gambling activities regularly every week, no matter how busy he is, he will always make time to gamble on the weekends. Second, when someone is addicted to gambling, then when he doesn't have enough money to do that, he will try to get money regardless of how he gets it, whether it's through good or bad means, whether by asking or borrowing. He will always try to be able to continue his gambling activities. And the third is hypocrisy, when someone is truly addicted to gambling, then what he is looking for is not the truth about what he is doing, but a justification for himself. Where apart from him always telling lies to other people, he also often lies to himself.
legendary
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Everyone knows what to do with those words,they are mostly encouragement phrases to keep you going.I see those words almost everyday in the chat at the casino where I play.I know that some people can take them in another meaning,in their literal meaning and go and try to get that one bet away from wealth and richness and as such they risk to go deeper and deeper until they hit addiction.This can be interpreted in different ways and it depends like I said on the person mentality and some people are impacted by those messages while the majority of the persons would just see them as encouragement only and continue to do what they have to do.
hero member
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Do you see this as addiction or just catching of fun?

Mind you, we just enjoy the moment and might just joke around with people making predictions based on the teams,  they love but we are mostly gamblers at our different ends.

Departmental groups are known for places of information and having different students in their will bring different discussion, some people are very funny in group chat and this might be one of them just doing there play stuff and catching cruise as usual, the person that sent that to the group might not even mean it. However, don't play with such things in the group, we view things differently as there are some people that will see that as a joke and some people in the group will see it as serious information and follow it and will bet as advised on that image.

In addition, next time you guys should add some rules just to avoid this kind of things repeating again. We have had instances of students using their school fees for the session and up keep money on betting and this turn out badly and it didn't end well. Guess what, it's their fellow students that later help them put funds together and help pay school fees, never joke with gambling because some people are very daft in making decisions, the won't think a second time to stake anything to win something most especially the one that doesn't have gambling induction.
sr. member
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If someone wants to gamble, it's up to them whether it's for fun or because they have an addiction to gambling. But I don't agree with taking a loan just to use it for gambling; I really don't agree with that.
Taking of loan to gamble is something that an addicted person will deem fine and I doubt that he would ever see it as wrong but  we all know that's it crazy to gamble with money someone actually borrowed you because gamble isn't something that guarantee's 100% income and the process can make you go more in dept. Money that is borrowed should be only used for cases of emergency and nothing else, as in when there is absolutely desperate need for it.
hero member
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So in weekends in my departmental WhatsApp group, we just randomly talk about soccer bets and sometimes drop a particular game and keep it open for correct score prediction to be made on it, and the first person with the correct score goes home with a data subscription, this has been going on for almost two years now and people have gotten used to it without knowing it.

This is one of the chat I just bumped into by one of us in the group chat and at this point I feel most of my friend have made it compulsory to always gamble every weekend.

Do you see this as addiction or just catching of fun?

Mind you, we just enjoy the moment and might just joke around with people making predictions based on the teams,  they love but we are mostly gamblers at our different ends.



The whole danger of gambling lies in the fact that the line between fun and real addiction is so thin that it is impossible to see.
Many addicted but recovered gamblers begin their stories like this: “I was just bored and I decided to have fun and made the first bet,” or “a friend advised me to bet my 5 bucks on the team, and the match became more fun to watch.”
And it’s unknown at what point everything gets out of control and now they say “I didn’t sleep to bet at night, I gave money away from my relatives.”
legendary
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The entire message is bad.

Do you see this as addiction or just catching of fun?
We always have to cautious of the groups we find ourselves in because they are not all positive and groups someone concerned for themselves should be in. It slowly starts out as fun, but later will metamorphose into an addiction, and this group that you are in are in is an example of it.

Don't think it's addiction to gamble every weekend, after a stressful week.
From every weekend, it can become an everyday thing.
sr. member
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In fairness, you have the guts to say those things. Maybe most people who read your post that this is negative may come to the minds of other communities here on this platform. But anyway, for me, there is no need to say that on platforms like this.

If someone wants to gamble, it's up to them whether it's for fun or because they have an addiction to gambling. But I don't agree with taking a loan just to use it for gambling; I really don't agree with that.
hero member
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gambling is an activity that is carried out without coercion and if it is mandatory you have to gamble every weekend, such as being forced to gamble even though you dont have money you have to look for a loan to gamble and this effort triggers an addiction to one group. it is very clear that it is not a pleasure but an unpleasant imposition and I am afraid that if it is done in the long term it will definitely make some people in the group become addicted.

but actually, if you only do it every week without having to force yourself to bet and do it responsibly, it won't be a big problem as long as you dont use a loan, but still, if your mind and mentality are not strong, everyone in the group will definitely become addicted just because they are tempted by other friends and I suggest dont do this too much rather than have a bad future.
legendary
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That message that was shared in your betting group is supposed to be taken seriously and as possible symptom of early gambling addiction slowly taken over the minds of whoever sent that. Even if they sent that message ironically, the idea of asking for a loan to continue gambling/betting and the conceived idea one is always each time closer to get a life changing amount of money out the casino is wrong.
There is a very real possibility that group of yours started as a fun experiment, just another way for people like you and those in your neighborhood to have a good time during the sport season, but it seems it has devolved into something different and something more dangerous to anyone who participates in that group.
If I were you, I would ask the administrator not to allow that kind of messages to be spread around, messages which only incites members to continue to gamble without thinking about conaequences. I would also mention a very strict set of rules are supposed to be listed and enforced in that group.
Does this group have any rules at all, is it moderated at all? Or it is just like a communal chat where people hang round and bet without someone calling the shots?

Whoever is moderating this, (assuming there is moderation) should encorauge others to only stake what they can afford to lose and in case someone within the group is suspected to be developing addiction to bets, may that person be excluded from the group during a set period of time. I would even go as far as informing their family if their behavior get erratic in the neighborhood. It is before to have a close talk with family before someone turns into a addicted riddle person, willing to steal for the sake of continue to gamble.

Just my opinion. It started as fun, now it is more than that. Be careful.
hero member
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Do you see this as addiction or just catching of fun?

As funny as it sounds, will others see it as catching fun? So many people have gone out of their way to gamble, all because they were advised like this "to take a loan to gamble''. They did that and the result they got wasn't funny, which made them take away their precious life by themselves because of the thought of how they would pay back the unpaid loans used in gambling.

There is a recent story spreading across my country about a young man who borrowed a huge sum of money from his friends in addition to his own. The story is that he gambled with everything he had saved and borrowed. He lost everything to gambling. what did then he do because of that? He took Sniper, a poison, to end his life in order to escape the humiliation and embarrassment of the people he had borrowed money from.

Story link: https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/more-news/651260-man-commits-suicide-after-reportedly-losing-n2-5-million-online-bet.html
hero member
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What if that guy is just trolling you all? IMO, I can sense that there's the obvious on it and I don't think that it is a motivation and it's just possible that he's having fun with you all.

But let's say that it's a serious one, you can't also determine that the guy posted that is already addicted just because of that quote. He might just stomped into it and just want to share it with you so, you can think of your actions.

I don't know but for me, we need more information about the guy and his habits to say that he's already addicted not just by a single quote he shared.
Troll or not, its not really that something new with these kind of post on which we do have those kind of post on where it turns out to be that something imaginary or something that it is really that
not something that usually happens on day to day living. If we do tend to look at on whats the post of op on which he's really that worrying about getting addicted but basing on the image that he had posted that signifies that you should be playing more or simply a line on where an addicted person would really be having then it would really be just that that contradictory on having
this kind of saying on which it totally opposes on the idea or things that you've been trying out to ask on which we can actually say that he's really indeed trolling.
hero member
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What if that guy is just trolling you all? IMO, I can sense that there's the obvious on it and I don't think that it is a motivation and it's just possible that he's having fun with you all.

But let's say that it's a serious one, you can't also determine that the guy posted that is already addicted just because of that quote. He might just stomped into it and just want to share it with you so, you can think of your actions.

I don't know but for me, we need more information about the guy and his habits to say that he's already addicted not just by a single quote he shared.
legendary
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gambling and loans are two things that should never meet, a bit like "a pizza and pineapple" we would say here in Italy... Wink

You play for fun, you don't play to get into debt. you go into debt for the future, not to have fun...

ok I know people who go into debt to take the holiday of a lifetime... but going into debt to gamble is unfortunately really something that should never be done.
sr. member
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So in weekends in my departmental WhatsApp group, we just randomly talk about soccer bets and sometimes drop a particular game and keep it open for correct score prediction to be made on it, and the first person with the correct score goes home with a data subscription, this has been going on for almost two years now and people have gotten used to it without knowing it.

This is one of the chat I just bumped into by one of us in the group chat and at this point I feel most of my friend have made it compulsory to always gamble every weekend.



Do you see this as addiction or just catching of fun?

Mind you, we just enjoy the moment and might just joke around with people making predictions based on the teams,  they love but we are mostly gamblers at our different ends.



This is fun and has nothing at all to do with addiction. The op rightly stated that they often do this during weekends which means everything going on their is all fun and nothing else and the recommendation posted on the group is a common gambling joke aimed at luring gullible gamblers. It is very common to see funny posts that seem like a recommendation in social groups, especially when the group is not the so serious one. Everyone knows that's a foolish advice from an unserious member of the group. As misleading as it is, there are still some over zealous members of the group who are not too familiar with gambling jokes that will fall into this trap. This set of people will take the who joke too seriously and keep playing relentlessly until they go broke.
hero member
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I don't really think this is an addiction thing.  It seems more like a sketchy ad trying to get gamblers to bet the wrong way.  That could ruin their lives by getting them into debt if they take out loans to keep gambling.  

These ads prey on gamblers who are prone to addiction or bad choices already.  Getting them buried in debt only makes everything worse.  There's a chance it could be sarcasm or a joke, but if an individual puts gambling above other significant things, then maybe that person has a gambling addiction. Since when is gambling so vital that you need to take out a loan just to keep gambling?

Add is one of the attractive ways to psychologically chances our mind about gambling. There are add that can make us to change our mind and start thinking of looking for reliable gambling platforms to use and bet. Also attractive adds with bonus and free spins for new users can lure us to start getting ready for a new career or activity in gambling.

 We need to train our mindset so that little things that make us change our opinion or easily attract about something. We need to be disciplined and focus on what we tend to achieve whether as gamblers or not. Many people had made wrong decisions about there gambling activities and ended up with the wrong choices.
hero member
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So in weekends in my departmental WhatsApp group, we just randomly talk about soccer bets and sometimes drop a particular game and keep it open for correct score prediction to be made on it, and the first person with the correct score goes home with a data subscription, this has been going on for almost two years now and people have gotten used to it without knowing it.

This is one of the chat I just bumped into by one of us in the group chat and at this point I feel most of my friend have made it compulsory to always gamble every weekend.



Do you see this as addiction or just catching of fun?

Mind you, we just enjoy the moment and might just joke around with people making predictions based on the teams,  they love but we are mostly gamblers at our different ends.

From the image presented from OP about gambling advise, such should not be taken by a responsible gambler, the more you keep using your money chasing after loss the more you keep accumulating for it, a professional gambler or advisor would not advise this for a gambler, only the gambling platforms can make this kind of posts and it's not to encourage or advice them, but to make them keep to patronage of their gambling platform so that they can always have subscribing customers as gamblers.
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