Topic: What's your view on this? Is it fun or addiction? - page 16. (Read 2081 times)

As long as you are all playing with money that you can afford to lose, I don't see any issues at all, there are many groups of friends and groups of workers doing this to relieve the stress of the work some groups are also doing that and besides there's no money involved but data subscriptions, it creates camaraderie among the group, I don't think it borders to addiction.

Addiction is when you play almost every day with different groups or alone with the hope of making money and spending money just to recoup your past losses. but if you are not gambling except with your group friends and you are all having fun without spending more but only on the agreed bet it's a safe form of gambling.

Can this considered enjoyable by you? This is not fun at all, it's a huge risk. If anyone enjoys being in that group, then I can only assume that they are already addicted to gambling. If not, how will I see a group like this, where people shouldn't stop gambling and should instead take out loans if they have no money to do so? Can we call that motivation? Or are they ruining each other's lives? It's never a good idea to take out a loan to gamble because if you lose and have no other way to pay back the loan, you have no choice but to sell any of your property. Most of your friend even take it compulsory to always gamble each weekend, Gambling with your own money is not a good idea either, talk of the money we borrow.

I think you have already become a gambling addiction if you have been a member of that group for more than a year now and you still find it enjoyable. My question is, could any of the members of that group have become rich from gambling since the group has been together for more than two years now? If no, then there's nothing to gain in it, just to lose money and destroy each other's life.

It seems that it has become an addiction because they think that this event is mandatory to be held every weekend. But if they can still take care of themselves and not gamble outside of the event, they will not experience gambling addiction. This must be really paid attention to so that they don't have the desire to gamble outside of that.

If they can enjoy the event with other friends, they really have fun. They would get together every weekend and gamble together. Yes, it will be a fun event. Sit down with friends and enjoy the event.

It is also about controlling yourself when hanging out with friends. They will return to betting at other times if they don't have self-control. Moreover, you said that most of them are gamblers in various fields. It can make them addicted to gambling.

I see it s a way to encourage gamblers to lose but telling them otherwise that it is foolishness. Gamble again and again and lose again and again. Leading to borrowing and a miserable life. A wise gambler can easily decipher that to know it is a doom sentence for gamblers that if they continue to gamble, they will continue lose. After loan, what next? Depression and feeling of killing oneself. It is good to gamble with very tiny amount of money that we can lose and not think about.

The message is very obvious, trying to fool gamblers.

We all know that gamblers losses more than they win, so how come that words exist that we continue to gamble to acquire generational wealth? If we fall into that and even decided to take a loan, we are not different from those people who fall into Ponzi scheme.

Gambling is only fun if you are treating it like a fun activity, but to acquire wealth? That's being delusional.

If this one turns out that you've been doing bets with your co-workers or colleagues then it would really just that fine specially if those things being bet on with that data subscription or whatsoever that you could be able to attach. If those group would really be having no skip on giving out their bets or selections, it doesnt mean that you're addicted with it. It is really just that it did become a habit or hobby on which it isnt really that
bad if your friends and you would really be doing actively something like this. As long you arent wrecking up yourself then it would be just fine. It is really just that for fun and its not addiction because
addiction would pertain on the time that you are already losing off track or already that messing your other important matters.

If you are still intact with yourself in terms of your important matters in life and at the same time you do able to handle those betting situations without compromising something then
it is really just that fine and you could continue with it. Each one of us does have different ways or methods on making ourselves that enjoying
about on things whether on gambling or not.

Will be more frustrating first than addictive. Addiction origins from satisfaction however, the idea is to keep on staking or betting until you win. Once you experience winning and realizing that loss is still bigger or even if his journey became profitable already, there will be a sensation to again bet endlessly, then that would be the time it will be a cycle. Not advisable but works to some people especially those who have large bankroll with proper management. As long as bets are controlled, this strategy could be pulled fine. But if greed will take place along with each bets, you'd be blown by loss and huge debt first before hitting that win and without assurance of a bigger amount than what you have lost.

Quite with the same idea of martingale strategy, but more of a 'free' approach. But I will never agree on taking a loan and just continue betting. You'd be in huge debt for sure and if luck will not still be there, you'd be forced to stop by financial capacity. Nothing's assured no matter how hard you wish of winning and getting back with the money you have lost. Which is why focusing how to manage your bankroll and limit your bets, will be more helpful in the long run that pushing our lucks 'til luck take place.

I think this is gambling addiction, if this is a slogan from gambling advertisements this is just an attractant. if they take out a loan to do gambling it's the same as they are stupid, it's clear that gambling using personal money also makes a loss, and they still believe in gambling until they dare to take action to borrow money? hahah, I don't think they dare to do that. because I'm sure they already know what the end will be like but why do they still do it and even take actions that are at great risk. because in my opinion by making a loan and gambling again the chances of being able to return everything are small, they are likely to experience losses again and if they still think "ohh with one more bet, this will definitely turn things around", nonsense, I don't believe in it. It's better to realize that they have lost a lot of money in vain. and stupidly they still put their hopes on gambling, I can't think what their motivation is by putting great hopes on gambling that is not clear with the winnings they will get, and this will only make them harm themselves. gambling which means a game of chance because the game has a random system, it is likely that it is difficult to get a win, let alone a big win. don't be fooled by gambling that says "a little more can get a win" it's nonsense.

also in my opinion there are many people who have become victims by borrowing money just to gamble and they don't get a win but only get a loss that becomes a burden on their own minds, also in my opinion if they lose gambling, don't think too much about it, because if you think about it, it will actually make us gamble again with the aim of wanting to chase the victory that can cover the defeat. this is almost impossible to happen because there is no guarantee that you will get a win that can cover the defeat. This is almost impossible because no one guarantees that they will get a win that can cover the losses that have occurred. think logically, which bookie will feel sorry for gamblers who always get defeated, it seems that the bookie will not think about that, because the bookie has a role as the host, they will always win. Even if the gambler wins it is not because the bookie is sorry but because of the luck that exists, don't get hung up on slogans or tricks and others, luck will give you a big or small win, the rest of us who gamble can control ourselves or not, if we can't control ourselves then there will be a big risk that will occur financially, health, relationships. so in my opinion avoid things that trigger addiction if you really want to gamble it's better to be reasonable, don't take out a loan to gamble because that's too much!!!

taking loans and continuing to gamble? maybe that's done by people who are not in their right mind.

An act that is really not recommended, it is true that for people who have been involved in gambling for a long time they will consider it a joke because honestly I myself admit that it is really ridiculous, taking a loan just to gamble, I'm not sure why people who have been involved for a long time think it's a joke because they already know the dangers of gambling using borrowed money, there have been many examples and one of my friends became a victim of debt, so it's a joke to me but maybe for other gamblers, especially beginners, maybe the loan will be used as an alternative when they run out of money.

What you said is always recommended and what should be considered especially for those beginners who do not know much about the adverse effects of gambling, so putting the smallest budget amount or the intention that they can be responsible for is really recommended. I think this is one of the main points that all gamblers should pay attention to, because obviously the inability to accept loss and then emotion is the starting point for various bad possibilities to occur, such as putting a large amount for a big win but finally losing and you will get emotional and then after that you will act out of control and finally the amount of loss is even greater.

It's addictive, not fun, how come in the group chat you said keep gambling take out loans to do it, I don't think that's good and not the right example for fun.

I just want to have fun and not gamble just because of a loan while there is no wealth in any bet won this is really hard for us to see for ourselves.

Still the most common is to gamble if you can afford to lose, even if it's extra money from the rest of your expenses, if you only rely on loans to bet I think it's fun even become excessive addiction.

I see it as someone who just came across this picture online and thought why not post it in my group chat and see the reactions of the members.

The fact that the person posted that photo did not indicate any sign of addiction unless he or she actually does gamble everyday and also can’t go a day or two without placing bet… and since you made mention of them “dropping predictions” then there’s a chance that some just depend solely on those predictions and that should also reduce the chance of addiction. I’m not trying to totally dismiss the fact that they could be addicted to gambling I’m just trying to say it’s difficult in that situation, unless they never go a day without dropping predictions.

Continue to gamble and take a loan? For gamblers that are not new to gambling, it would be seen as a joke. But it should also not to be taken for a joke. Why would someone gamble to the extent it will get to taking a loan? That is an addiction already and nothing else.

Gambling should be without loan. Also gambling should be without 95% of the money you are earning. Even only 1% of the money that you are earning should be used to gamble is the recommendation.

If you use 1% to gamble and continue to lose, you have no loan to take and you have no difficulty to face.

So in weekends in my departmental WhatsApp group, we just randomly talk about soccer bets and sometimes drop a particular game and keep it open for correct score prediction to be made on it, and the first person with the correct score goes home with a data subscription, this has been going on for almost two years now and people have gotten used to it without knowing it.

This is one of the chat I just bumped into by one of us in the group chat and at this point I feel most of my friend have made it compulsory to always gamble every weekend.



Do you see this as addiction or just catching of fun?

Mind you, we just enjoy the moment and might just joke around with people making predictions based on the teams,  they love but we are mostly gamblers at our different ends.