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Quote from: Lucius on December 08, 2023, 06:09:00 AM

Quote from: Rikafip on December 07, 2023, 10:32:13 AM

There are already 4 pages of applications for signature campaign there, so there's obviously interest despite the lower rate. Keep also in mind that on altcointalk there is a "teleport" option so when you create a new account, you can simply sort of transfer your bitcointalk rank so you don't have to start from scratch.

I'm not sure, but I think that I had a profile on that forum a long time ago, as well as on some other forums - but what I'm interested in is the "teleport" option, that is, how exactly does their admin verify that someone is really the one whose profile want to transfer - anyone can say they are Lucius and give my unique profile number?

This is simple, if you read the teleporting rules on altcoinstalk, you will see where it is stated that before you are teleported, you have to copy your altcoinstalk profile link and come to your profile here on bitcointalk, then paste your altcoinstalk profile like you copied in either your signature ad space, or your website url box in your bitcointalk profile, and then, you share your bitcointalk profile link with the altcoinstalk admin, who will scan it and verify that the profile is really yours through the altcoinstalk link you posted on your profile.

This is how I believe, the admin there gets to verify that the bitcointalk profile that are being teleported, actually belongs to the altcoinstalk user who claim to own it.

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Quote from: Lucius on December 08, 2023, 06:42:52 AM

In any case, it is good to create an account there, if nothing else, at least to protect ourselves from those who would try to "copy" us.

I am absolutely sure that scammers will try that, so better be safe than sorry. One thing I would suggest the others is to use different email when creating an alt account there.

Quote from: Lucius on December 08, 2023, 06:42:52 AM

However, transferring BTT accounts anywhere and advertising things that are prohibited on this forum means that in the event that the authorities want to locate someone there, they can always request information from this forum as well, given that we publicly admit that it is the same person. What I want to say is that all activities on that forum can have implications on the profiles on this forum.

True, whatever you do there might have implications on your bitcointalk account and is indeed something to think about. With that being said, mixers are not illeal yet so I don't think that those who will continue to promote mixers there are in immediate danger and I can imagine if/when mixers become illegal, altcointalk will ban it too.

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Quote from: rat03gopoh on December 08, 2023, 11:19:29 AM

Quote from: Lucius on December 08, 2023, 06:42:52 AM

However, transferring BTT accounts anywhere and advertising things that are prohibited on this forum means that in the event that the authorities want to locate someone there, they can always request information from this forum as well, given that we publicly admit that it is the same person. What I want to say is that all activities on that forum can have implications on the profiles on this forum.

I actually had the idea to create an account with a different name then teleport. However, this is just a trivial ploy, on the other hand, I doubt that law enforcement will consider activity on the forum as a big problem because the traffic is still too small compared to Btt.

I saw they don't allow users with different usernames to teleport. I did register there with a different username then I learned about the teleport so I'm not eligible for it.

If it is a violation to promote a mixer and the law is going to chase after those who promote it, there would be a lot the users here than in altcoinstalks that violate that law. The sad part is that users thought they were anonymous until they sent their coins to an exchange.

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Quote from: Lucius on December 08, 2023, 06:42:52 AM

However, transferring BTT accounts anywhere and advertising things that are prohibited on this forum means that in the event that the authorities want to locate someone there, they can always request information from this forum as well, given that we publicly admit that it is the same person. What I want to say is that all activities on that forum can have implications on the profiles on this forum.

I actually had the idea to create an account with a different name then teleport. However, this is just a trivial ploy, on the other hand, I doubt that law enforcement will consider activity on the forum as a big problem because the traffic is still too small compared to Btt.

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Quote from: electronicash on December 07, 2023, 01:46:53 PM

admin of that forum is very accomodating. anyone who wants to teleport, the admin can do it in less than an hour. if mixers are not welcome here anymore altcoinstalk will take them. although they may not haave a huge number of visitors a month, it will eventually increase when more users are going there.

kind of an active forum when there are tons of logged in users. once this forum becomes popular too, they will screen advertisers as well.

I have had an account here since 2018 and I am one of the earliest who got teleported into this forum, I remember this forum is very quiet and lack activity that at some point extended to a few months, signature and bounty campaign can make an impact in an online community, some want to make money from their contribution besides the reputation they are getting, so we are now seeing a migration of accounts.
But compared here in Bitcointalk you need to declare your alt account because they don't want abuse of their community, I don't know if there are changes in their policy because this policy was created five years ago

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@Rikafip, I should have read better, now it's clearer to me that you need to put their link somewhere in your profile on this forum, and that means that no one can "teleport" anyone's account unless they hack it first. In any case, it is good to create an account there, if nothing else, at least to protect ourselves from those who would try to "copy" us.

However, transferring BTT accounts anywhere and advertising things that are prohibited on this forum means that in the event that the authorities want to locate someone there, they can always request information from this forum as well, given that we publicly admit that it is the same person. What I want to say is that all activities on that forum can have implications on the profiles on this forum.

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Quote from: Lucius on December 08, 2023, 06:09:00 AM

I'm not sure, but I think that I had a profile on that forum a long time ago, as well as on some other forums - but what I'm interested in is the "teleport" option, that is, how exactly does their admin verify that someone is really the one whose profile want to transfer - anyone can say they are Lucius and give my unique profile number?

For example, you can verify your account by updating your bitcointalk account with link to your altcointalk account (for example you can share link in "website" bracket) and then you contacvt admin who will then check your bitcointalk account.

Yesterday I decided to make an account with my name in order to reserve it so a scammer there can't make an account under my name as I can see it happening if altcointalk gets more popular due mixer signature campaigns.

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Quote from: Rikafip on December 07, 2023, 10:32:13 AM

There are already 4 pages of applications for signature campaign there, so there's obviously interest despite the lower rate. Keep also in mind that on altcointalk there is a "teleport" option so when you create a new account, you can simply sort of transfer your bitcointalk rank so you don't have to start from scratch.

I'm not sure, but I think that I had a profile on that forum a long time ago, as well as on some other forums - but what I'm interested in is the "teleport" option, that is, how exactly does their admin verify that someone is really the one whose profile want to transfer - anyone can say they are Lucius and give my unique profile number?

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Quote from: virasog on December 07, 2023, 02:17:15 PM

Quote from: coupable on December 07, 2023, 08:41:57 AM

Quote from: salad daging on December 07, 2023, 08:25:54 AM

Royse has also launched a mixero signature campaign on altcoinstalks and they will start the campaign from December 31st but the thread has been launched today.

You can see the thread here: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=312833.0

Our managers are also discussing or considering continuing the campaign on bitcoingarden and altcoinstalks, this is just waiting for the agreement of the owners and managers.

The wage rate in the new version of the Mixero campaign that Royce launched today on altcointalk is very low, and I do not think that anyone will be encouraged to join it. $1 per post, with an increase in the minimum number of posts per week (30 posts).
If Altcointalk is the best forum in the market in terms of activity and traffic after BitcoinTalk, then it cannot be an alternative to it as an advertising market on which advertising campaigns are able to achieve the best results. Perhaps some companies will be encouraged by the idea of moving the campaign to another forum, but this is only as an experiment and I do not think they will continue with this option for a long time.

Well, these forums like altcointalks and bitcoingarden are no way near the comparison with bitcointalk in terms of number of users being active on the forum and the traffic that bitcointalk has, these forums are no way near to it.

So it is obvious that the mixer's campaigns won't be willing to pay good rates if they are unable to get a good ROI. It will be an experiment to start a campaign there and they will only continue if they see that people are being directed to the mixers from this marketing.

However, I do feel that ban of mixers on this forum and moving the campaigns to that altcointalks or bitcoingarden forum is more beneficial for these forums as compared to the projects themselves. All of a sudden, these forums have started to gain traffic.

Not exactly. Because simply launching signature campaigns on these forums will not lead to the traffic they need to at least compete with bitcointalk, even if just a little. Traffic is nothing but members participating in signature campaigns on bitcointalk who want to continue participating in the group on another forum, and whose number in total I do not expect to exceed 100 members, given the number of campaigns that intend to move to another forum and taking into account members who do not have accounts with upgraded memberships on those forums.
Perhaps these forums will become more important to users in crypto communities after the number of posts increases and the quality improves, which means more traffic.

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Quote from: virasog on December 07, 2023, 02:17:15 PM

Quote from: coupable on December 07, 2023, 08:41:57 AM

Quote from: salad daging on December 07, 2023, 08:25:54 AM

Royse has also launched a mixero signature campaign on altcoinstalks and they will start the campaign from December 31st but the thread has been launched today.

You can see the thread here: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=312833.0

Our managers are also discussing or considering continuing the campaign on bitcoingarden and altcoinstalks, this is just waiting for the agreement of the owners and managers.

The wage rate in the new version of the Mixero campaign that Royce launched today on altcointalk is very low, and I do not think that anyone will be encouraged to join it. $1 per post, with an increase in the minimum number of posts per week (30 posts).
If Altcointalk is the best forum in the market in terms of activity and traffic after BitcoinTalk, then it cannot be an alternative to it as an advertising market on which advertising campaigns are able to achieve the best results. Perhaps some companies will be encouraged by the idea of moving the campaign to another forum, but this is only as an experiment and I do not think they will continue with this option for a long time.

Well, these forums like altcointalks and bitcoingarden are no way near the comparison with bitcointalk in terms of number of users being active on the forum and the traffic that bitcointalk has, these forums are no way near to it.

So it is obvious that the mixer's campaigns won't be willing to pay good rates if they are unable to get a good ROI. It will be an experiment to start a campaign there and they will only continue if they see that people are being directed to the mixers from this marketing.

However, I do feel that ban of mixers on this forum and moving the campaigns to that altcointalks or bitcoingarden forum is more beneficial for these forums as compared to the projects themselves. All of a sudden, these forums have started to gain traffic.

Yeah, it is indeed beneficial to the forum right about now, but also check it out in the long term, the table will still turn around and the mixers will benefit from their the forum as well when those forums start gaining the traffic as well.

I personally believe that with the presence of mixers and other high paying service on such forum, admin of those forum will be more encouraged to work harder to see that their forums start gaining high traffic, so as to make sure that the services being promoted on the forum get a good return on their investment, which will in turn encourage them to advertise much longer on the forum, and as well, attract other services too.
This is not something that will happen over night though, it will sure take some time.

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Quote from: coupable on December 07, 2023, 08:41:57 AM

Quote from: salad daging on December 07, 2023, 08:25:54 AM

Royse has also launched a mixero signature campaign on altcoinstalks and they will start the campaign from December 31st but the thread has been launched today.

You can see the thread here: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=312833.0

Our managers are also discussing or considering continuing the campaign on bitcoingarden and altcoinstalks, this is just waiting for the agreement of the owners and managers.

The wage rate in the new version of the Mixero campaign that Royce launched today on altcointalk is very low, and I do not think that anyone will be encouraged to join it. $1 per post, with an increase in the minimum number of posts per week (30 posts).
If Altcointalk is the best forum in the market in terms of activity and traffic after BitcoinTalk, then it cannot be an alternative to it as an advertising market on which advertising campaigns are able to achieve the best results. Perhaps some companies will be encouraged by the idea of moving the campaign to another forum, but this is only as an experiment and I do not think they will continue with this option for a long time.

Well, these forums like altcointalks and bitcoingarden are no way near the comparison with bitcointalk in terms of number of users being active on the forum and the traffic that bitcointalk has, these forums are no way near to it.

So it is obvious that the mixer's campaigns won't be willing to pay good rates if they are unable to get a good ROI. It will be an experiment to start a campaign there and they will only continue if they see that people are being directed to the mixers from this marketing.

However, I do feel that ban of mixers on this forum and moving the campaigns to that altcointalks or bitcoingarden forum is more beneficial for these forums as compared to the projects themselves. All of a sudden, these forums have started to gain traffic.

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Quote from: electronicash on December 07, 2023, 01:46:53 PM

Quote from: salad daging on December 07, 2023, 01:21:32 PM

Quote from: Solosanz on December 07, 2023, 09:22:29 AM

Quote from: salad daging on December 07, 2023, 08:25:54 AM

Other forums such as altcoinstalks are starting to get crowded, some of the old forum members have started to teleport to other forums (altcoinstalk) see the picture below is no longer familiar some names have registered there, so it is likely that mixer advertising will be there.

Wow this is really interesting, they might can't compete this forum, but having signature campaign obviously will increase the traffic especially if there are more projects are joining to run a signature campaign.

Yeah most of the usernames are really familiar, but I'm not yet see the "big guys" in that forum or they might never ever want to join on there.

Don't know if it will be a competitor to bitcointalk, but imo that will never happen as bitcointalk will remain the main forum for bitcoin discussions etc.

It was also said by the admin of Altcoinstalks that the forum is not a replacement but an escape for the repressive community, maybe you can see the new policy here: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=312821.msg1452562#msg1452562

It is possible that the forum's big contributors will but here and never teleport, but now we know enough that some users have started to enter the Altcoinstalks forum.

admin of that forum is very accomodating. anyone who wants to teleport, the admin can do it in less than an hour. if mixers are not welcome here anymore altcoinstalk will take them. although they may not haave a huge number of visitors a month, it will eventually increase when more users are going there.

kind of an active forum when there are tons of logged in users. once this forum becomes popular too, they will screen advertisers as well.

You are right, altcoinstalk have been from way back, Infact, let me confess that I actually started with that forum, I was like the second or third person that signed up on that forum when they launched newly, the admin made me a global moderator back then, but due to lack of activity on the forum, I stopped logining in there, and 2020 when I returned back on that forum, they have achieved a lot and I discovered that I can no longer remember my username, nor the password or the email address I signed up with, I had to create a new account which Is the one I am currently using.

From my long experience on altcoinstalk, the admin is indeed a very good person, a fellow that is very accommodating just as you have said, and I perceive he's very humble too.

I honestly can not see altcointalk ever replacing this forum as long as this forum remains online, but what is certain is that, altcoinstalk may possibly become big too with the right users, engagements and promotions, the admin of that forum is always open to new ideas and upgrade, did you guys notice the general chatbox on the site? That's an amazing feature to be honest.

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Quote from: salad daging on December 07, 2023, 01:21:32 PM

Quote from: Solosanz on December 07, 2023, 09:22:29 AM

Quote from: salad daging on December 07, 2023, 08:25:54 AM

Other forums such as altcoinstalks are starting to get crowded, some of the old forum members have started to teleport to other forums (altcoinstalk) see the picture below is no longer familiar some names have registered there, so it is likely that mixer advertising will be there.

Wow this is really interesting, they might can't compete this forum, but having signature campaign obviously will increase the traffic especially if there are more projects are joining to run a signature campaign.

Yeah most of the usernames are really familiar, but I'm not yet see the "big guys" in that forum or they might never ever want to join on there.

Don't know if it will be a competitor to bitcointalk, but imo that will never happen as bitcointalk will remain the main forum for bitcoin discussions etc.

It was also said by the admin of Altcoinstalks that the forum is not a replacement but an escape for the repressive community, maybe you can see the new policy here: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=312821.msg1452562#msg1452562

It is possible that the forum's big contributors will but here and never teleport, but now we know enough that some users have started to enter the Altcoinstalks forum.

admin of that forum is very accomodating. anyone who wants to teleport, the admin can do it in less than an hour. if mixers are not welcome here anymore altcoinstalk will take them. although they may not haave a huge number of visitors a month, it will eventually increase when more users are going there.

kind of an active forum when there are tons of logged in users. once this forum becomes popular too, they will screen advertisers as well.

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Quote from: Solosanz on December 07, 2023, 09:22:29 AM

Quote from: salad daging on December 07, 2023, 08:25:54 AM

Other forums such as altcoinstalks are starting to get crowded, some of the old forum members have started to teleport to other forums (altcoinstalk) see the picture below is no longer familiar some names have registered there, so it is likely that mixer advertising will be there.

Wow this is really interesting, they might can't compete this forum, but having signature campaign obviously will increase the traffic especially if there are more projects are joining to run a signature campaign.

Yeah most of the usernames are really familiar, but I'm not yet see the "big guys" in that forum or they might never ever want to join on there.

Don't know if it will be a competitor to bitcointalk, but imo that will never happen as bitcointalk will remain the main forum for bitcoin discussions etc.

It was also said by the admin of Altcoinstalks that the forum is not a replacement but an escape for the repressive community, maybe you can see the new policy here: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=312821.msg1452562#msg1452562

It is possible that the forum's big contributors will but here and never teleport, but now we know enough that some users have started to enter the Altcoinstalks forum.

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Quote from: coupable on December 07, 2023, 08:41:57 AM

The wage rate in the new version of the Mixero campaign that Royce launched today on altcointalk is very low, and I do not think that anyone will be encouraged to join it. $1 per post, with an increase in the minimum number of posts per week (30 posts).

There are already 4 pages of applications for signature campaign there, so there's obviously interest despite the lower rate. Keep also in mind that on altcointalk there is a "teleport" option so when you create a new account, you can simply sort of transfer your bitcointalk rank so you don't have to start from scratch.

Another thing, just few years ago $50 per week was a bitcointalk signature campaign standard so for many people what altcointalk offers is not bad at all, especially if you see it as side gig, next to the one on bitcointalk.

I wonder if Twitter allows mixers promotion as at the moment that's the most popular platform for crypto advertisement.

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Quote from: Solosanz on December 07, 2023, 09:22:29 AM

Quote from: salad daging on December 07, 2023, 08:25:54 AM

Other forums such as altcoinstalks are starting to get crowded, some of the old forum members have started to teleport to other forums (altcoinstalk) see the picture below is no longer familiar some names have registered there, so it is likely that mixer advertising will be there.

Wow this is really interesting, they might can't compete this forum, but having signature campaign obviously will increase the traffic especially if there are more projects are joining to run a signature campaign.

Yeah most of the usernames are really familiar, but I'm not yet see the "big guys" in that forum or they might never ever want to join on there.

Forget that bud, the big names you are looking for are probably all there already, but you won't know, many of them are already well established on that forum even before now, so, you don't expect their names to appear in the list of new sign-ups.

For example, I have been a users in altcoinstalk since 2020, that is why my name isn't captured on that list, I believe same also, is it with the big names you are looking for, they are all there already, and for those who are already there, they will later on join quietly, at their own convinient time.

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Quote from: salad daging on December 07, 2023, 08:25:54 AM

Other forums such as altcoinstalks are starting to get crowded, some of the old forum members have started to teleport to other forums (altcoinstalk) see the picture below is no longer familiar some names have registered there, so it is likely that mixer advertising will be there.

Wow this is really interesting, they might can't compete this forum, but having signature campaign obviously will increase the traffic especially if there are more projects are joining to run a signature campaign.

Yeah most of the usernames are really familiar, but I'm not yet see the "big guys" in that forum or they might never ever want to join on there.

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Quote from: coupable on December 07, 2023, 08:41:57 AM

The wage rate in the new version of the Mixero campaign that Royce launched today on altcointalk is very low, and I do not think that anyone will be encouraged to join it. $1 per post, with an increase in the minimum number of posts per week (30 posts).
If Altcointalk is the best forum in the market in terms of activity and traffic after BitcoinTalk, then it cannot be an alternative to it as an advertising market on which advertising campaigns are able to achieve the best results. Perhaps some companies will be encouraged by the idea of moving the campaign to another forum, but this is only as an experiment and I do not think they will continue with this option for a long time.

It's justified if you ask me; I hadn't heard of Altcointalks till now, so I'm guessing it's nowhere as popular as Bitcointalk, and its userbase must be far smaller. From a quick look-around I did, it's certainly not as active, and this probably justifies the lower pay. I don't think I'd bring myself to change forums to join a signature campaign, especially with such a petty amount of money compared to the standards we're used to here, but also because the other forums that have been mentioned here don't inspire me.

Some services will certainly move to other forums, but they're not receiving anywhere close to the traffic we're receiving, so I have my doubts regarding their advertising efficiency.

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Quote from: salad daging on December 07, 2023, 08:25:54 AM

Royse has also launched a mixero signature campaign on altcoinstalks and they will start the campaign from December 31st but the thread has been launched today.

You can see the thread here: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=312833.0

Our managers are also discussing or considering continuing the campaign on bitcoingarden and altcoinstalks, this is just waiting for the agreement of the owners and managers.

The wage rate in the new version of the Mixero campaign that Royce launched today on altcointalk is very low, and I do not think that anyone will be encouraged to join it. $1 per post, with an increase in the minimum number of posts per week (30 posts).
If Altcointalk is the best forum in the market in terms of activity and traffic after BitcoinTalk, then it cannot be an alternative to it as an advertising market on which advertising campaigns are able to achieve the best results. Perhaps some companies will be encouraged by the idea of moving the campaign to another forum, but this is only as an experiment and I do not think they will continue with this option for a long time.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on December 06, 2023, 03:37:31 PM

But other forums can't be seriously considered as alternative platforms for advertising. Look at Bitcoingarden forum - what's the point to advertise there when there isn't much activity. I don't even talk about Cryptotalk - it's completely dead spam forum, except Russian board where there is still some activity.

Other forums such as altcoinstalks are starting to get crowded, some of the old forum members have started to teleport to other forums (altcoinstalk) see the picture below is no longer familiar some names have registered there, so it is likely that mixer advertising will be there.

Royse has also launched a mixero signature campaign on altcoinstalks and they will start the campaign from December 31st but the thread has been launched today.

You can see the thread here: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=312833.0

Our managers are also discussing or considering continuing the campaign on bitcoingarden and altcoinstalks, this is just waiting for the agreement of the owners and managers.

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