Where the mixers will promote their projects? - page 4.

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Quote from: dkbit98 on December 06, 2023, 01:41:13 PM

How can you say that sinbad currently has ACTIVE status when both of their website domains are seized and service is shut down?
Even if they start service again I doubt they are going to use the same name, like they previously changed the name from blender.
I think that even their telegram channel is gone.

Because the mixer's admin logged in here on 30th made a post promising an update, but then theymos banned them and locked the topic. Some people said their channel was active after 30th and there is a new .onion link, however, since I don't use Telegram I couldn't confirm that. I've set the state to 'SEIZED' while there is no information on a new .onion.

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Quote from: PX-Z on December 06, 2023, 10:17:26 AM

Quote from: salad daging on December 05, 2023, 03:28:43 PM

The same I see Bitcoingarden forum looks quiet visitors and only a few active posts today means this forum can not be compared with bitcointalk and obviously the difference is too striking.

Well, yeah it looks like it, and yeah it's given, no forum can be compared to this forum, even the forum of bitcoin.com that was recently stopped its operation, i mean a year or two years ago i guess.

That's not an argument as nothing can be compared to bitcointalk. I think those companies(mixers) that want to continue to run their campaigns will find other way but even if they launch it with those alternative forums, they'd find little to no success there.

Quote from: salad daging on December 05, 2023, 03:28:43 PM

I'm sure one day they will find a good forum platform for mixer promotion.

Maybe or they'll keep their presence hidden from the clearnet and will have to stay on the dark shadows of the underground forum websites that can't be tracked(?).

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Quote from: salad daging on December 05, 2023, 03:28:43 PM

The same I see Bitcoingarden forum looks quiet visitors and only a few active posts today means this forum can not be compared with bitcointalk and obviously the difference is too striking.

While altcointalk seems to be filled with spammers and duplicate accounts, just visiting altcointalk there is a Hhampuz account fraudster by launching a freebitcoin signature campaign. Grin

I'm sure one day they will find a good forum platform for mixer promotion.

I completely forgot about Bitcoingarden forum. I have account there, they used to send email newsletter once in month, but now I haven't noticed it for a while.
But other forums can't be seriously considered as alternative platforms for advertising. Look at Bitcoingarden forum - what's the point to advertise there when there isn't much activity. I don't even talk about Cryptotalk - it's completely dead spam forum, except Russian board where there is still some activity.

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Quote from: Lucius on December 06, 2023, 11:06:28 AM

Is this forum the center of the internet universe?

Interestingly it seems everyone is thinking that this is the center of the internet universe. People are thinking it's the dead end for mixers. They will find a suitable place. I don't think this forum is the only place for them to advertise. They already are advertising in different platforms or how are they making their money?

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Quote from: PrivacyIsImportant on December 05, 2023, 02:08:02 AM

I have launched a mixer directory site

How can you say that sinbad currently has ACTIVE status when both of their website domains are seized and service is shut down?
Even if they start service again I doubt they are going to use the same name, like they previously changed the name from blender.
I think that even their telegram channel is gone.

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Where the mixers will promote their projects?

Is this forum the center of the internet universe? Of course not, which means that there are countless possibilities that mixers are already using, and now they will be additionally motivated to explore some new ones. As things have turned out, I would not only focus on currently banned services, but also on the fact that we can expect that in the future any service that does not have KYC and can in any way serve for illegal activities will be banned on this forum.

I have no doubt that someone will come up with the idea and make bitcointalk V2, of course in such a way that they will not have to be afraid of Big Brother and the consequences resulting from their actions.

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Quote from: salad daging on December 05, 2023, 03:28:43 PM

The same I see Bitcoingarden forum looks quiet visitors and only a few active posts today means this forum can not be compared with bitcointalk and obviously the difference is too striking.

Well, yeah it looks like it, and yeah it's given, no forum can be compared to this forum, even the forum of bitcoin.com that was recently stopped its operation, i mean a year or two years ago i guess.

Quote from: ABCbits on December 06, 2023, 06:38:54 AM

But i wonder how many people or user of those website actually care about their privacy?

There should be someone who are into it too, but that's something to be speculated, i knew some users here have accounts there as well.

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Quote from: PX-Z on December 05, 2023, 12:17:02 PM

Quote from: Aanuoluwatofunmi on December 05, 2023, 10:21:33 AM

platforms like cryptotalk may be available for them,

That site is no way in compare to other crypto-related forums and its considered as dead, almost no new post there upon checking it. Bitcoingarden or altcointalk and reddit is much more considerable than that cryptotalk.

But i wonder how many people or user of those website actually care about their privacy? At least on this forum, we know some member claim they take privacy seriously (some even on paranoid level).

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Quote from: PX-Z on December 05, 2023, 12:17:02 PM

Quote from: Aanuoluwatofunmi on December 05, 2023, 10:21:33 AM

platforms like cryptotalk may be available for them,

That site is no way in compare to other crypto-related forums and its considered as dead, almost no new post there upon checking it. Bitcoingarden or altcointalk and reddit is much more considerable than that cryptotalk.

The same I see Bitcoingarden forum looks quiet visitors and only a few active posts today means this forum can not be compared with bitcointalk and obviously the difference is too striking.

While altcointalk seems to be filled with spammers and duplicate accounts, just visiting altcointalk there is a Hhampuz account fraudster by launching a freebitcoin signature campaign. Grin

I'm sure one day they will find a good forum platform for mixer promotion.

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Quote from: PrivacyIsImportant on December 05, 2023, 02:08:02 AM

I have launched a mixer directory site: mixhub.to / yroltzbszl45er3ii2fhwt4grrcy3mqhsyovveufuhtyqi5oswpu2uid.onion

Bookmarked! but could you add fee rates plus minimum deposit amount as well?

Quote from: NotATether on December 05, 2023, 06:37:30 AM

It looks great but why are you including Bitcoin addresses in that list?

Most likely for the signed messages/letter of guarantee. I checked a couple of letter of guarantees I had and they matched.

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Quote from: Aanuoluwatofunmi on December 05, 2023, 10:21:33 AM

platforms like cryptotalk may be available for them,

That site is no way in compare to other crypto-related forums and its considered as dead, almost no new post there upon checking it. Bitcoingarden or altcointalk and reddit is much more considerable than that cryptotalk.

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Quote from: Solosanz on December 01, 2023, 10:25:30 AM

Which site or forum that these centralized mixers will promote their projects? Cheesy

There are platforms indeed that are available for making such promotions if they so wish, but there's this certainty that they can achieve the same result they have been having while on bitcointalk, platforms like cryptotalk may be available for them, despite that they may but experience the level of moderation they would have expected, some mixers may also change their decisions in continuation of mixing service and go for something else when the pressure is too much on regulations from governments.

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Quote from: PrivacyIsImportant on December 05, 2023, 02:08:02 AM

I have launched a mixer directory site: mixhub.to / yroltzbszl45er3ii2fhwt4grrcy3mqhsyovveufuhtyqi5oswpu2uid.onion

Thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/mixhubto-a-maintained-list-of-mixers-for-backup-and-lookup-purposes-5476445

It has the following features:

Registering and commenting as a Bitcointalk user (in fact the only way to post comments)
Mixer admin access
Support ticketing system for data suggestions

The platform already got 3 mixer reps registered and verified today and I expect almost all the listed mixers have their reps onboarded by the end of this month.

It looks great but why are you including Bitcoin addresses in that list?

I don't think these are donation addresses or anything, and also, each user gets their own address for mixing. Because if that wasn't the case then we all know what happens next (for those who don't: trivial identification of which users sent funds to a mixer). So I don't see the need for it.

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If they will move on another forum, yeah there could be a rise of the traffics there due to the promotion but it won't be for long. They will just be dissatisfied with the result because Bitcointalk is still different entirely from the other existing bitcoin forums.

And if they're going to do that with the social medias, there's a bigger tendency that they might get locked up due to these centralized social media platforms.

So, like what's said they're likely go to the darknet / deep web.

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I have launched a mixer directory site: mixhub.to / yroltzbszl45er3ii2fhwt4grrcy3mqhsyovveufuhtyqi5oswpu2uid.onion

Thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/mixhubto-a-maintained-list-of-mixers-for-backup-and-lookup-purposes-5476445

It has the following features:

Registering and commenting as a Bitcointalk user (in fact the only way to post comments)
Mixer admin access
Support ticketing system for data suggestions

The platform already got 3 mixer reps registered and verified today and I expect almost all the listed mixers have their reps onboarded by the end of this month.

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Quote from: dkbit98 on December 04, 2023, 05:24:51 PM

Quote from: Learn Bitcoin on December 04, 2023, 05:29:24 AM

Probably x.com or Facebook, Google ads?

Have you ever seen something like this advertised on google ads?
I almost never see any ads when I browser internet because I use uBlockOrigin and/or DNS blocker, but I saw fake scam mixers being pushed on top of search before.

I am being honest here; I have never seen any mixer ads on Google or Facebook. But I have seen a lot of phishing websites, Ponzi scheme websites were on sponsored slots. Which means those were promoted by paying to the platform. If you talk about a search result, fake websites often appear in the first result, and I don't think Google cares about it.

Usually, I do not use adblockers, and I never needed them because I do not browse the internet for any reason. I mostly spend my time here and sometimes on Facebook and Twitter.

Maybe real mixers did not need to promote their service on those platforms. But, if they want, they might be able to do it as long as they have money.

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Speaking of other forums, Royse777 is planning to move one of their campaigns in another platform

Quote from: AB de Royse777 on December 03, 2023, 07:17:44 PM

From January 1st we will move the campaign to another platform. To get the update please subscribe to my Telegram Channel. We will disclose it very soon and existing participants will receive an offer to partner with the new Mixero promotion.

My guess is it's either on altcointalks or bitcoingarden. I'm not on other forums but perhaps I'll check them out and test the waters. I remember visiting other forum/s yeaaaars ago, there wasn't much activity for stuff I'm interested on but perhaps things have changed now (or will change?).

It'll be interesting to see how this will all play out Cheesy

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Quote from: Solosanz on December 01, 2023, 10:25:30 AM

Which site or forum that these centralized mixers will promote their projects? Cheesy

Probably websites with most traffic, but it's their problem to solve.
I speculated that someone will fork bitcointalk forum and move it on different domain, maybe even onion link.
That doesn't mean that anyone should ever use same login details like in bitcointalk forum if that ever happens.

Quote from: Learn Bitcoin on December 04, 2023, 05:29:24 AM

Probably x.com or Facebook, Google ads?

Have you ever seen something like this advertised on google ads?
I almost never see any ads when I browser internet because I use uBlockOrigin and/or DNS blocker, but I saw fake scam mixers being pushed on top of search before.

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Quote from: examplens on December 04, 2023, 08:17:05 AM

I've seen some recommendations to go to the altcointalks.com forum.
This is fun, bitcoin services are moving to the altcoin forum, while on the Bitcoin forum, we can't defend against alt/nft/token spam.

I joined some forums but Bitcointalk is the best. I like it interface and simplicity than other forums, that is first impression and I never like other forums because of their interfaces and too many ranks, icons that looks very messy. Next is more important, quality posters are in Bitcointalk and other forums can not compete with it.

If you mention about altcoinstalks.com forum, why don't mention about Bitcoingarden forum?
I don't like it too but I summon it here because the admin and owner of Bitcoingarden has an account on Bitcointalk and he is still actively. Maybe waiting for chances to get some prominent members from Bitcointalk to Bitcoingarden. Cheesy

This user S3cco

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Where to promote BTC mixers?
Forums like Cracked.io and Nulled.io(or even hackforums.net). The internet is full of blackhat/hacking/cracking forums.
Discord servers. Telegram groups. Social media profiles on Instagram, X, Facebook. Darkweb directories.
Why do you even care about the promotion of BTC mixers? The owners of those mixers will definitely find a clever way to promote them.
The problem is that nobody would be able to prove the legitimacy of those mixers. Most of them will end up being exit scams and some of them might even be controlled by FBI/CIA.
Or maybe it's time for the Bitcoin mixers to die and all the online criminals will just move to private altcoins like monero.

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