Topic: Where the mixers will promote their projects? (Read 1249 times)

There are many platforms but how reliable are they to generate the required results needed and how could they be trusted for this purpose when they are not properly moderated like here, though altcoinstalks forum has a little resemblance to this our forum but yet the traffic are incomparable to each other, while the aforementioned social media platforms could not be trusted by many to follow on what they are advertising since it's something different from what they do, here we deals with cryptocurrencies majorly and they have the assurance of getting the best results from here than other platforms.

Google does not currently restrict mixers or platforms that review and advertise them. Users can simply search for the term "mixer" unless Google filters out related keywords and promotional platforms. These mixers are accessible on the main net, not limited to the darknet, and are discussed and promoted in various online communities, including platforms like Reddit.

Just like altcoins can't and will never be compared with Bitcoin, so is the altcoin forum will never be compared with Bitcointalk. If you didn't know, before now, many had tried a thing like this in the name of cryptocurrency forums but they failed, and there is one that is still standing but only relegated to Russia alone. This altcoin forum of a thing has started and has been operating with sponsors too before now, so this time that m!xers see it as an alternative, what difference will that make?

The two forums will continue to run as before but this place will continue to outshine it. From what I heard, the pay over there is nothing to write home about, and that is for a clear reason, traffic. I don't know how that is true but the person can't lie to me. So that is another discouragement for the users that are already used to this place. Although some are greedy, they will do both together, regardless, this forum continues to stand tall.

Or maybe we should instead rather wish them the goodluck of drawing traffic on the new platforms they may be using, it will be an advantage to any of the platforms privileged to host them have their signature campaigns, this may be the reason why they may also experience an increase in traffic but yet i don't think there's any that can be compared to that of bitcointalk as you have said, mixers will always find a means of advertising their business as long as there are platforms that accepts for that.

Originally, I had thought that these services would be banished to the darnket and that they would be completely outlawed, or held at the mercy of biased regulation (No KYC on mixer = not compliant, despite it contradicting privacy altogether).

However after reading this thread, it seems as though mixer promotion has moved to altcointalk for the time being.

I suppose it makes sense, and hopefully this will be a new place to regulate mixers for those who want to find information about then on the clearnet. Let's see if it lasts for them over time...

There are other forums like Bitcointalk, but I doubt they can match the traffic and results generated here. They may attempt to use those forums for a while, but if they fail to attract the desired number of users, they may consider alternative advertising methods such as placing their banners on popular websites like coingecko, coinmarketcap, and other popular cryptocurrency websites. They could also advertise on blog websites, and find the most known crypto-currency influencers who will promote their services on YouTube, Twitter, or other platforms. Anything is possible.

To say the fact, we cannot expect things to be going the same way over a long time, things have to change, maybe this ban on mixers on bitcointalk will be what will lead to the massive ressurection of the altcoins forum when many organizations are going over there to promote their businesses and people were also going there to make their promotions and before you know it, it's keeps expanding without affecting bitcointalk at all, because those there, were also here in many ways than they appear there.

I think that the amount of traffic on BitcoinTalk is what motivates these mixers to limit themselves to advertising on it. Therefore, the decision of the new forum will have a significant impact on the activity of mixers in general, since all activities related to it have been determined, including even the type of discussions.
Frankly, I do not imagine that the campaigns would succeed on the rest of the forums, and I think it would be better if they would have tried to connect to other important sites, such as blockchain browser platforms or even casinos.
Personally, I do not know if there is any kind of advertising that Mixers do on the Dark Web, and I hope that someone can help us with the information, because I have always not imagined that Dark Web customers are not always active on the regular Mirror forums, and therefore they will not see advertising for Mixers.

You're right, there are many mixers that are trusted and reputable, they are not the ones involved in these evil deeds, people are, mixers only provide for privacy, there are many other platforms they can use to make promotion of what they are offering, the only difference is in them acheiving their main target audience like the one they gets from bitcointalk through traffic generated for them when they are making their promotions.

Once they are not yet declared illegal, I believe they will continue to find their root somewhere else and will try as much as possible to be known in some sites that do not care and that are entirely in for the money. But this place is different and I love how things are going now, we have some integrity to protect, at least, not linking us with what is known for much evil is a way forward.

Besides, m!xers' more marketing has started happening, a friend called me 2 days ago that one of the m!xers here has started advertising with some alternatives of Bitcointalk, and that they are offering a very low amount compared to the ones they offered here. Who cares? I didn't even bother to verify. All I know is that they can do it while it lasts and as long as the forums/sites accommodating them are still not locked. But when it starts to be locked, this will be a deterrent for those who still harbour them. I've never been a fan.

The mixer's ability to spend on relatively expensive advertising campaigns does not necessarily mean the success of those campaigns, because it is very important to choose the promotion platform. Users will follow the official channels of the Mixers to stay updated, but this does not mean at all that they will remain on a forum that does not have content that attracts their attention, because they will not spend their time just seeing signatures bearing the names and links of the Mixers without having another clear goal.
The idea came to my mind of launching a site like Bestchange, where mixers pay the site for listings, and the site works to promote the listing services without referring directly to the mixers. The idea can be easily implemented technically, but there are certainly other obstacles that are absent from our awareness.

Social media and ads for mixers? Is that actually a thing? I'm very surprised if it's allowed there and not here...further addressing that ...


...I highly doubt that an account would be able to easily promote a mixer on google or social media if it does not align with the US financial regulators guidelines, being that mixers aren't banned, but they must KYC their customers. If a mixer isn't following that guideline and others, I doubt that they'd last long on Google before ban or questioning.

I personally wouldn't trust one being promoted on those platforms purely because there would have to be a string attached currently or in the near future.


Summed up well...
Unfortunately.
It shouldn't be that way for legit users.


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I wouldn't put it past MSM and crypto MSM to follow this agenda to prevent anyone from any case looking like the perpetrators were truly anonymous, and just blaming North Korea to prevent inspiring the wrong kinds of people. I would hope that this isn't the case though as that would be pretty baseless propaganda, and would he pretty messed up (but not surprising) if so.

North Korea having a talented hacking group, would be an investment that makes sense for that country. It would be ironic considering the entire population has no access to media and information outside of their country (still no internet too?)...but it would be in line with what they do. Those hackers would have no choice but to work for their government, or reenter a society where computers are virtually worthless.

This would be an interesting topic for the politics and society board.

Because the community or forum is dynamic, people will stay on to read all the discussions compared to an advertising platform which will only show the platform site or banners, mixers will always have markets, and their clients will follow them on whatever platform they choose just to see if their service is still up to date the proof that they have a huge market is the amount of money they pour just to advertise their service if they can allocate huge funding then there's a big probability that they have existing and loyal clients.

That's what I think so too, it's not like just because the forum doesn't allow it anymore doesn't mean that other websites won't advertise them too, they might still be able to squeeze in their services somewhere and Google ads probably won't mind them being advertised but now that they're not here in the forum, I'm sure that more people are going to fall for scammers that will pose as legitimate crypto mixers unless there's a way that we can still list them here which is unlikely to happen. Other social media platforms won't be a big help for the mixers though as those are also populated by scammers, yes they will find other places to advertise but now it's going to be more difficult for them and for the people that want to use mixers.

It would be interesting to compile a list of all the teleported members to altcointalk and post all of their Bitcointalk shenanigans over there for people to know their unmasked nature. I mean do these services want some shady characters advertise for them? I'm eager to get to know their team members, maybe they listen to reason and even tag them accordingly, because we wouldn't want weasels and parasites to spread to other places, right?

If bitcoin was to be centralized as the banks and the mixer CEO has much right and power like the bank managers or directors, they could easily send bitcoin across and delete any traces of it. It is because of the decentralized nature of bitcoin, that is why it is so difficult to completely stitch the loopholes left by its transactions and which is why it is not also easy to develop more efficient system than the mixers.

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As for the question of where mixers will promote, we should know that necessity prompts invention.

So, the other platforms don't also want to allow them for advertising space because that could give them an eye from the government that tracks down dirty money and uses them for it. It's also possible that the next place that they're going to advertise might get some caution of giving them a notice to disallow them to advertise. But let's see, just like the other conventional websites and platforms, they're just doing safety precautions and filtering the ads that they might allow to pop on them that won't have any troubles caught by the regulators. Onto the new platforms, it's favorable to them as it definitely will attract more visitors for the meantime.

There are many platforms that mixers can use to conduct promotional campaigns for their services, so I tried to find an explanation as to why they prefer the forums and insist on them, even though most if not all of them cannot be compared to the BitcoinTalk forum, and it can be said that they fail due to the lack of traffic on them.
The only logical explanation that I found is that all the rest of the sites refuse to place advertising banners for Mixers, knowing that as far as I know, there are no laws or legal conditions that prevent them from doing so (at least until now).

Probably because of heavy sanctions that are in place against everyone and everything that is connected with the ruling power of North Korea. Lazarus Group is always mentioned as a state-operated hacking team. If that is true, it would make sense that they use Bitcoin and other assets outside of the traditional banking system. They would be fools to use tether and similar centralized tokens that can be easily frozen. I just read that over 100 Ethereum addresses were frozen over the weekend after a new Tether policy update. There wasn't a lot of money, but still.

That is because they cannot just use any mixer, as nobody is sure whether they, and which ones, are FBI honeypots.

A lot of their stash is in other coins besides Bitcoin. That precludes using mixers for any of them because the ones on bitcointalk only work with Bitcoin.

Also they need to be sure that the owner is not going to sell them out. For example (and this is only theoretical), maybe MixTum is forced to hand over Lazarus bitcoins over to FIOD or some other government should they ever get any.

Maybe they had a guy in the know, who was running Sinbad, and they paid him off, that's how they were so safe using it.