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Child porn was never thriving on Twitter or literally any major social media network.

"gender twisting groomers" (whatever that is) leads me to think that "child porn" might have been redefined in nutcase newspeak just like "shadow banning" was.


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Child porn was never thriving on Twitter or literally any major social media network.

"gender twisting groomers" (whatever that is) leads me to think that "child porn" might have been redefined in nutcase newspeak just like "shadow banning" was.
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I’m just glad that now Twitter is out of the hands of liberal psychos. They were prioritizing silencing conservatives while leaving child porn thriving on the platform. I’m not sure if liberals are mad that conservatives now have an equal playing field or if they’re mad their child porn provider is going away, but one thing is for sure, it’s going to get a lot more difficult for these gender twisting groomers to achieve their goals on Twitter, and I think that’s a huge win for society.



Jesus, how gullible are you?

Child porn was never thriving on Twitter or literally any major social media network.
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I’m just glad that now Twitter is out of the hands of liberal psychos. They were prioritizing silencing conservatives while leaving child porn thriving on the platform. I’m not sure if liberals are mad that conservatives now have an equal playing field or if they’re mad their child porn provider is going away, but one thing is for sure, it’s going to get a lot more difficult for these gender twisting groomers to achieve their goals on Twitter, and I think that’s a huge win for society.
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Everyone seems to be ignoring the definition of a shadow ban that was given when the claim was made and using a different definition that would make the statement a lie.

Semantics is the weakest form of argument.  Trying to use doublespeak now to pretend they weren't lying is ridiculous.  Twitter was lying and got caught red handed.  I'm sure the abuse goes even further than what we've already seen, and what we've already seen is enough to distrust our government.  When you look into all the details of ex-alphabet boys getting positions in Twitter to make their manipulation easier from the inside and it's clear as day that this has been happening.  Although everyone already knew this because it was obvious.  Now it's fact instead of conspiracy theory.  The really crazy part is that YouTube and Facebook are even worse offenders but have deeper pockets to avoid a buyout.  I hope this latest set of events has them terrified and questioning their bad behavior.  I hope it all comes to light in the end and liberals are able to digest they've been brainwashed while being mature enough to switch their views based on their new understanding of reality.

Try to put your hatred for the libs and love of Elon aside and look at this rationally. 

They clearly defined 'shadow ban' at the time of claiming they don't shadow ban people.  It's a reasonable definition.  imo, it's the most reasonable definition.  

They clearly explained that they did do what people are now claiming is shadow banning (making it harder to discover some tweets without following the user or searching for them).  

Because they provided the definition when making the claim, there's really no semantic debate on what they meant.  We know exactly what they meant.  You can't read their statement on shadowbanning and argue in good faith that "they said they didn't shadow ban, now we know they do, they lied about not shadow banning".  It's just not logical.


Semantics is the weakest form of argument.

Irrational, bad faith, uninformed arguments are weaker.



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Everyone seems to be ignoring the definition of a shadow ban that was given when the claim was made and using a different definition that would make the statement a lie.

Semantics is the weakest form of argument.  Trying to use doublespeak now to pretend they weren't lying is ridiculous.  Twitter was lying and got caught red handed.  I'm sure the abuse goes even further than what we've already seen, and what we've already seen is enough to distrust our government.  When you look into all the details of ex-alphabet boys getting positions in Twitter to make their manipulation easier from the inside and it's clear as day that this has been happening.  Although everyone already knew this because it was obvious.  Now it's fact instead of conspiracy theory.  The really crazy part is that YouTube and Facebook are even worse offenders but have deeper pockets to avoid a buyout.  I hope this latest set of events has them terrified and questioning their bad behavior.  I hope it all comes to light in the end and liberals are able to digest they've been brainwashed while being mature enough to switch their views based on their new understanding of reality.
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In 2018, Twitter general counsel Vijaya Gadde denied the usage of shadow banning and suggested it was a conspiracy theory. Nonsense.

Seems like she addressed it pretty accurately when claiming they don't shadow ban:
https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/company/2018/Setting-the-record-straight-on-shadow-banning


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The best definition we found is this: deliberately making someone’s content undiscoverable to everyone except the person who posted it, unbeknownst to the original poster.

We do not shadow ban. You are always able to see the tweets from accounts you follow (although you may have to do more work to find them, like go directly to their profile). And we certainly don’t shadow ban based on political viewpoints or ideology.

Everyone seems to be ignoring the definition of a shadow ban that was given when the claim was made and using a different definition that would make the statement a lie.

I've always thought of shadow bans in relation to chat rooms.  If someone gets shadow banned, they see their messages appearing in the chat  but nobody else can.  I believe this is the original use of the term.  The twitter equivalent would be someone tweeting and nobody else being able to see it.  Which isn't what's happening at twitter.
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Twitter files part 2: https://twitter.com/bariweiss/status/1601007575633305600

See part 1 here: https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598822959866683394

Part 1 is less interesting, it merely covers the Hunter Biden laptop story suppression which we could see happening in real time in 2020. There isn't anything new.

In part 2, Bari Weiss uncovers the shadow banning of "right" leaning accounts on Twitter in order to suppress certain content. @libsoftiktok, popular right-wing account that uncovers deranged LGBT left wingers that have a odd fascination of posting bizarre clips of themselves on TikTok, was one of the accounts shadow banned.

In 2018, Twitter general counsel Vijaya Gadde denied the usage of shadow banning and suggested it was a conspiracy theory. Nonsense.
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Have you noticed any difference between Elon Musk's "free speech" or image on different social media ? I remember seeing some posts about Elon on TikTok and he was talking fine, like a pretty reasonable man; but on Twitter, he seems to be another person who is coercive, obssesive and divisive. Any thought about this ?
Yeah, i guess that reason for that is pretty simple: his main audience is in twitter and it seems that he is has focused trolling in that.
Especially now that twitter couldn't kick him out no matter what. My guess is this is his vision of free speech. He can say anything and others can say anything he allows. At some point when someone crosses him, his free speech illusion will fall totally. and he will totally pull out the "we are private company we can kick out anyone we one -card

He is addicted to likes as anyone else so he basically wants to appear as this eccentric genius to mask the fact he is anything but. When he gives interviews etc he is more balanced, but also very vague and won't speak in depth or in technical terms as can't. He would be called out for being wrong and doesn't like to be corrected. He even called that one guy pedo for doing so.

Agree. Elon is totally living in the world he fabricated. Recently he expressed the potential risk for assassination. We don't know him in person so it's not good to make any judgement. However, we can still get some clue from what has done and said in the past months, especially after he acquired Twitter. He seems to have jeopardized some big name's business and this is not simply a loss of money but more about political and social influence. In the States, the hidden rulers have always been that handful people/families and it is impossible to change. To them, even huge successful businessmen like Elon Musk are puppets. Disobey ? No way.
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Have you noticed any difference between Elon Musk's "free speech" or image on different social media ? I remember seeing some posts about Elon on TikTok and he was talking fine, like a pretty reasonable man; but on Twitter, he seems to be another person who is coercive, obssesive and divisive. Any thought about this ?
Yeah, i guess that reason for that is pretty simple: his main audience is in twitter and it seems that he is has focused trolling in that.
Especially now that twitter couldn't kick him out no matter what. My guess is this is his vision of free speech. He can say anything and others can say anything he allows. At some point when someone crosses him, his free speech illusion will fall totally. and he will totally pull out the "we are private company we can kick out anyone we one -card

He is addicted to likes as anyone else so he basically wants to appear as this eccentric genius to mask the fact he is anything but. When he gives interviews etc he is more balanced, but also very vague and won't speak in depth or in technical terms as can't. He would be called out for being wrong and doesn't like to be corrected. He even called that one guy pedo for doing so.
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As a businessman, Musk is willing to invest so much money to tell Twitter that his plan is very big. It is obvious that the number of users on Twitter is quite large, and the returns he can bring far exceed his investment funds, which may bring Twitter to a greater direction.
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I have to admit that Elon Musk’s mind is really smart, and he can invest his wealth in the right place, which always makes people’s eyes shine. This time, he will make the twitter program more optimized, which can replace more software. Would be a breathtaking move.
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After acquiring Twitter, Musk may actively incorporate Web 3.0 elements into Twitter, transforming it in all aspects.

1. is the integration of encrypted payments into Twitter's functionality, making it easier to make payments, send money, etc. This is the point that should be the most realistic. According to JaneManchunWong, a well-known tech blogger, Twitter is developing a cryptocurrency wallet, "which is still in the prototype stage but already supports cryptocurrency deposits and withdrawals". It is believed that Twitter users will be able to use this feature in the near future.

2. is the introduction of NFT to Twitter by adding the ability to display, buy and sell NFT on Twitter.

3. is to reorganize Twitter's advertising ecology by using cryptocurrency reward. In the Web 3.0 model, the thinking of advertising may change a lot - advertisers may get users to watch ads by paying for them.

4. is the introduction of blockchain-based governance to Twitter. Twitter is currently facing increasingly serious governance challenges. A large number of false messages, violent speech, and zombie accounts are overwhelming the existing governance team, and for these problems, the popular DAO governance and dispute resolution mechanisms in Web 3.0 may have a lot of use.

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Elon Musk acquired Twitter about two weeks agao and Twitter has been All the news everywhere. His bold moves of firing a big portion of staff, changing major Twitter features and making more modifications are spurring waves of controversy. His supporters and adversaries are quite in fights. Where will Elon Musk lead Twitter ? Is Twitter heading to a wrong direction ?

Elon Musk is a businessman with a short and wide range of thinking and strategy making & a businessman doesn't invest in anything where he can't predict profits. In my opinion, he will lead twitter to a leading top site in terms of social interaction and profit making.

In the eyes of many people, Musk is not only rich, but also has a high IQ. Although sometimes you feel that what he does is thoughtless or absurd. But often the easiest way is the most effective way. Twitter is more free. Perhaps under the leadership and management of Musk, Twitter can complete the transformation and transition of WEB2.0-3.0. I believe Twitter will become the greatest media in the world. In this process, there will definitely be various questions, and all kinds of information are true and false, but time will give me all the answers.
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He definitely seems to like Authoritarian governments more than his own.
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Yup, for a "Free speech absolutist" he totally buddies up a lot with countries that has zero free speech. Peace plan poll was weird nudge for Putin too.
And funny enough in one article where he where he is saying that there's a significant threat for his assassination, he defines free speech as:

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Conclusively, Musk noted, “As long as you’re not really causing harm to somebody else, then you should be allowed to say what you want.”
https://watcher.guru/news/elon-musk-says-there-is-significant-risk-of-his-assassination

Which is literally how it's been all along so maybe people shouldn't get too excited of his "radical" act for free speech.

Have you noticed any difference between Elon Musk's "free speech" or image on different social media ? I remember seeing some posts about Elon on TikTok and he was talking fine, like a pretty reasonable man; but on Twitter, he seems to be another person who is coercive, obssesive and divisive. Any thought about this ?
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He definitely seems to like Authoritarian governments more than his own.
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Yup, for a "Free speech absolutist" he totally buddies up a lot with countries that has zero free speech. Peace plan poll was weird nudge for Putin too.
And funny enough in one article where he where he is saying that there's a significant threat for his assassination, he defines free speech as:

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Conclusively, Musk noted, “As long as you’re not really causing harm to somebody else, then you should be allowed to say what you want.”
https://watcher.guru/news/elon-musk-says-there-is-significant-risk-of-his-assassination

Which is literally how it's been all along so maybe people shouldn't get too excited of his "radical" act for free speech.
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I think it's quite ironic that he'd want to offer a freedom of speech platform for the public when he himself had used the platform in ugly ways. To be honest, his treatment of pressure from countries like Saudi Arabia and India should speak volumes.
 Twitter would embark on a long and arduous journey with Elon as the sole owner and he has planned on setting up a content moderation council; this would help to avert attention placed on him as the supposed sole arbiter of speech on the platform.

He definitely seems to like Authoritarian governments more than his own.

I wonder what his response will be when Xi Jinping calls and says something like: "I just called to congratulate you on delivering 100,000 chinese made Teslas in the past 30 days.  Did you know Chinese citizens are expected to buy more than 6 million electric vehicles next year?  Oh, while i have you,  it would be in both of our best interests if you took a look at a couple suggestions about Taiwan related Tweets. kthxbi!"

Actually, I wonder if that conversation has already happened.




https://twitter.com/ambqingang/status/1499615241159659521?lang=en

Haha, I almost believed that conversation you mentioned already happened. Assume it did happen, what would you think make Elon Musk to be close with China ?  Political views seem not to be a primary reason cause there is a huge difference between cultures in the West and East. Economic reasons ? Probably, Tesla's factory in Shanghai, China has been functioning well and they must have made a lot of money. A bold guess,  will Elon try to work with China over the space exploration projects ?
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I think it's quite ironic that he'd want to offer a freedom of speech platform for the public when he himself had used the platform in ugly ways. To be honest, his treatment of pressure from countries like Saudi Arabia and India should speak volumes.
 Twitter would embark on a long and arduous journey with Elon as the sole owner and he has planned on setting up a content moderation council; this would help to avert attention placed on him as the supposed sole arbiter of speech on the platform.

He definitely seems to like Authoritarian governments more than his own.

I wonder what his response will be when Xi Jinping calls and says something like: "I just called to congratulate you on delivering 100,000 chinese made Teslas in the past 30 days.  Did you know Chinese citizens are expected to buy more than 6 million electric vehicles next year?  Oh, while i have you,  it would be in both of our best interests if you took a look at a couple suggestions about Taiwan related Tweets. kthxbi!"

Actually, I wonder if that conversation has already happened.




https://twitter.com/ambqingang/status/1499615241159659521?lang=en
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I think it's quite ironic that he'd want to offer a freedom of speech platform for the public when he himself had used the platform in ugly ways. To be honest, his treatment of pressure from countries like Saudi Arabia and India should speak volumes.
 Twitter would embark on a long and arduous journey with Elon as the sole owner and he has planned on setting up a content moderation council; this would help to avert attention placed on him as the supposed sole arbiter of speech on the platform.
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Frankly Elon's plan to make Twitter a freedom of speech platform is sorely failing because he's proving that free speech at all costs is a dangerous fantasy.

 The plan to revive banned accounts has been on and on but it seems there's still some secret suspension of accounts going on. Take Kanye (Ye) account for instance. I thought by now there'd be no banning or suspending?
Well these "muh freedom of speech" people including Elon Musk didn't know that Twitter already had tried hard core free speech but at some point it comes to the point where the platform is enabling criminal activity and there's no way old or new twitter take that risk financiallty. People give Elon way too much credit of having any kind of plan. He just likes to talk big and hope someone will do what he says when he pays enough for him.

Also there's no backers with Ye any more, he has outcrazied Alex Jones and that's something our of guiness book of records.

Exactly. Definitely I am not against of freedom of speech but too many people nowadays are taking advantage of this human right to conduct verbal attacks or even criminal activities. Since when did people lose one sight of the "coin" and just use the "coin" as a weapon  ? Elon Musk has been given too much credit and that could possibly backfire him if he misuses the credit and fame. Hope he realizes this and will get Twitter out of mess as soon as possible.
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