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There are one billion and 200 million dollars in annual interest on the loans, which amounted to 36 billion dollars, or almost three quarters of the value of the deal. Elon Musk, no matter how rich he is, will not be able to continue financing a platform that will lose all his life.

The debt is 13 billion, not 36, but the key here is that Elon created it via his leveraged buyout bullshit. Before the acquisition Twitter had a lot less debt and manageable interest payments. Now it has to make extra 1.2 billion per year just to break even. I doubt that's possible with that clown in charge.

According to some experts, Twitter is about to introduce a new plan to support the platform's revenues and try to bridge the deficit it suffers from. The idea is that Twitter will offer video content creators to publish their videos on Twitter for an additional 10 percent over what YouTube offers. Almost this is the only logical plan among all the measures taken by Musk, especially since laying off half of the employees will not provide additional income to the platform of the required size, in addition to the project of selling the verification badge is not a good idea and may encourage advertisers to leave the platform.
turing to 50 from approx 4000 employee will save so much of the money.
Elon will surly get back on the track in a few months time. Twitter will flourish like tesla. And it surely will.
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There are one billion and 200 million dollars in annual interest on the loans, which amounted to 36 billion dollars, or almost three quarters of the value of the deal. Elon Musk, no matter how rich he is, will not be able to continue financing a platform that will lose all his life.

The debt is 13 billion, not 36, but the key here is that Elon created it via his leveraged buyout bullshit. Before the acquisition Twitter had a lot less debt and manageable interest payments. Now it has to make extra 1.2 billion per year just to break even. I doubt that's possible with that clown in charge.

According to some experts, Twitter is about to introduce a new plan to support the platform's revenues and try to bridge the deficit it suffers from. The idea is that Twitter will offer video content creators to publish their videos on Twitter for an additional 10 percent over what YouTube offers. Almost this is the only logical plan among all the measures taken by Musk, especially since laying off half of the employees will not provide additional income to the platform of the required size, in addition to the project of selling the verification badge is not a good idea and may encourage advertisers to leave the platform.
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Elon Musk acquired Twitter about two weeks agao and Twitter has been All the news everywhere. His bold moves of firing a big portion of staff, changing major Twitter features and making more modifications are spurring waves of controversy. His supporters and adversaries are quite in fights. Where will Elon Musk lead Twitter ? Is Twitter heading to a wrong direction ?
I don't think it's on a wrong direction. I like the part that those huge profiles that has propaganda to run, they're probably are problematic with Elon's stance against their political will.

In line with Elon's attitude and way of managing the Twitter staffs. I think he's also applying what he's done to SpaceX, Starlink and Tesla and if it has been effective onto those companies. We're just seeing a glance of it because he's just starting to handle everything in Twitter. Although I don't like that style as it has lost people job security but that means pushing them to their utmost while he's on the management.

I've heard that he's also talking back to those that he's fired because they're the only ones that he can rely on doing their left post.
twitter hit the most number of users by the time Musk has been firing the people and the users are coming to the app to check the daily update.
I'm sure - he has something on his mind too. He will build a better work environment.
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Elon Musk acquired Twitter about two weeks agao and Twitter has been All the news everywhere. His bold moves of firing a big portion of staff, changing major Twitter features and making more modifications are spurring waves of controversy. His supporters and adversaries are quite in fights. Where will Elon Musk lead Twitter ? Is Twitter heading to a wrong direction ?
I don't think it's on a wrong direction. I like the part that those huge profiles that has propaganda to run, they're probably are problematic with Elon's stance against their political will.

In line with Elon's attitude and way of managing the Twitter staffs. I think he's also applying what he's done to SpaceX, Starlink and Tesla and if it has been effective onto those companies. We're just seeing a glance of it because he's just starting to handle everything in Twitter. Although I don't like that style as it has lost people job security but that means pushing them to their utmost while he's on the management.

I've heard that he's also talking back to those that he's fired because they're the only ones that he can rely on doing their left post.
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Elon isn't letting Alex Jones back on.     Cool
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We probably won't get to mars because of Elons twitter addiction.   Undecided
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Maybe Elon gets his inspiration from chatting. It was the same thing Trump did while he was president of the USA, always on Twitter chatting and alot of people thought he should not be chatting because he was president and as a president it was beneath him to do so. Now we know how those people were wrong. Old Joe who does not chat much can not outperform chatty Trump.

Inspiration for what? Is he writing a book on how to flush $40 billion down the toilet? Because that's what he's doing quite successfully so far.

The aforementioned $13 billion debt is allegedly being sold for 60 cents on the dollar. Think about it, banks are willing to take a 40% haircut just to get off the sinking ship. It takes a special kind of genius to fuck it up so badly so quickly.
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When I anticipated Twitter's demise, I had not factored in the employees packing up their bags and leaving the company to rot now that they had to actually do work instead of being paid to chat. I can only assume this will accelerate the downfall.

If they haven't been doing actual work then it wouldn't matter if they leave. Have you been reading too much of Elon's self-aggrandizing tweeterage? Now that's a person who needs to "chat" less and work more. Starting from figuring out how a company he paid $40 billion of OPM for actually functions.

Maybe Elon gets his inspiration from chatting. It was the same thing Trump did while he was president of the USA, always on Twitter chatting and alot of people thought he should not be chatting because he was president and as a president it was beneath him to do so. Now we know how those people were wrong. Old Joe who does not chat much can not outperform chatty Trump.
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Elon Musk succeeded in laying off thousands of Twitter employees by half, and promised the rest to change the working pattern with additional hours and reduce many privileges. He also made a proposal to sell the verified accounts badge to increase the company's resources.

It is clear here that Elon Musk is really seeking to increase the income of the company in which he paid that huge amount.

Reports indicate that the company has not achieved annual profits since 2010, except for the years 2018 and 2019, and its loss reached one billion and 300 million dollars in 2020. The company was actually losing, and Elon Musk was involved in its purchase if he did not intend to propose amendments in the interest of the company's profits . The old owners of the company were happy with Elon Musk's offer, and when he announced his withdrawal, they sued him, and this proves that the company was not of the size on which its price was evaluated. Now everyone is waiting for the amendments that Musk will add to achieve more profits, because he is still required to pay the interest of the loans he borrowed to complete the deal.
There are one billion and 200 million dollars in annual interest on the loans, which amounted to 36 billion dollars, or almost three quarters of the value of the deal. Elon Musk, no matter how rich he is, will not be able to continue financing a platform that will lose all his life.
there is one post I read on twitter which is status of my watsapp too. It reads and I quote
elon musk has been able to successfully run twitter for days with only 50 employees - what the heck were those other 7950 were doing"
Matt Wallace - @mattwallace888
seems like 50 are more power than 7950

I also read this on Twitter, and I was shocked, but I am sure the remaining 50 employees are more involved in development there; I am not sure about the others, but Tesla or SpaceX employees are already on Twitter, so those 50 employees were the original employees. But, while it is operational, it is different from before, as other departments have closed due to a lack of employees. Elon is simply concentrating on Twitter infrastructure, which is why he no longer requires the services of other employees.
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For me, twitter is a clear case of what a book called "Bullshit jobs". It is clear that now they are understaffed, but in that company worked many people who were dedicated to do basically nothing and we can see an example in the following video:

A day in the life of a Twitter employee

These companies may have been inflated by the massive printing we have had in the last few years, which caused technology stocks to continue to keep rising even when trading at outrageous P/E ratios.

This is in terms of workers. And cost control in other aspects? I find it hard to believe this tweet from Musk, but I have no way of verifying it, and given how overstaffed they were, I wouldn't be surprised:

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Especially bizarre given that almost no one came to the office. Estimated cost per lunch served in past 12 months is >$400.
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there is one post I read on twitter which is status of my watsapp too. It reads and I quote
elon musk has been able to successfully run twitter for days with only 50 employees - what the heck were those other 7950 were doing"
Matt Wallace - @mattwallace888
seems like 50 are more power than 7950

Now that advertisers are gone and he doesn't need sales staff etc, he can probably "run" it without any employees for quite a while. Until something breaks and there is no one left who knows how the backend works or where it all runs ("cloud" is not a place).

There are one billion and 200 million dollars in annual interest on the loans, which amounted to 36 billion dollars, or almost three quarters of the value of the deal. Elon Musk, no matter how rich he is, will not be able to continue financing a platform that will lose all his life.

The debt is 13 billion, not 36, but the key here is that Elon created it via his leveraged buyout bullshit. Before the acquisition Twitter had a lot less debt and manageable interest payments. Now it has to make extra 1.2 billion per year just to break even. I doubt that's possible with that clown in charge.
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Edit: https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1849635/000119312522150801/d226205ds4.htm

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From December 22, 2021, until the expiration of 18 months thereafter, (the “TMTG Social Media Exclusivity Term”), President Trump has agreed to first channel any and all social media communications and posts coming from his personal profile to the Truth Social platform before posting that same social media communication and/or post to any other social media platform that is not Truth Social (collectively, “Non-TMTG Social Media”) until the expiration of “DJT/TMTG Social Media 6-Hour Exclusive” which means the period commencing when DJT posts any social media communication onto the Truth Social Platform and ending six (6) hours thereafter; provided that he may post social media communications from his personal profile that specifically relates to political messaging, political fundraising or get-out-the vote efforts at any time on any Non-TMTG social media platforms. Unless notice is given, the TMTG Social Media Exclusivity Term extends in perpetuity for additional 180-day terms. In the event of a force majeure as described in the License Agreement that lasts longer than 30 days, President Trump shall have the right to invoke the suspension of the “DJT/TMTG Social Media 6-Hour Exclusive.” If the Social Media Exclusivity Term were to expire but the License Agreement remained in effect, President Trump would be required to post contemporaneously to TruthSocial and Non-TMTG Social Media.


That's interesting, I didn't know he agreed to that.

Would be funny if he just used twitter to plug truth social.

Also wouldn't be surprised if he just broke the agreement....what are they gonna do, sue him?
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Elon Musk succeeded in laying off thousands of Twitter employees by half, and promised the rest to change the working pattern with additional hours and reduce many privileges. He also made a proposal to sell the verified accounts badge to increase the company's resources.

It is clear here that Elon Musk is really seeking to increase the income of the company in which he paid that huge amount.

Reports indicate that the company has not achieved annual profits since 2010, except for the years 2018 and 2019, and its loss reached one billion and 300 million dollars in 2020. The company was actually losing, and Elon Musk was involved in its purchase if he did not intend to propose amendments in the interest of the company's profits . The old owners of the company were happy with Elon Musk's offer, and when he announced his withdrawal, they sued him, and this proves that the company was not of the size on which its price was evaluated. Now everyone is waiting for the amendments that Musk will add to achieve more profits, because he is still required to pay the interest of the loans he borrowed to complete the deal.
There are one billion and 200 million dollars in annual interest on the loans, which amounted to 36 billion dollars, or almost three quarters of the value of the deal. Elon Musk, no matter how rich he is, will not be able to continue financing a platform that will lose all his life.
there is one post I read on twitter which is status of my watsapp too. It reads and I quote
elon musk has been able to successfully run twitter for days with only 50 employees - what the heck were those other 7950 were doing"
Matt Wallace - @mattwallace888
seems like 50 are more power than 7950
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Orange Hitler's account has been reinstated! They wiped all of his followers through.

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump

IIRC Trump said he would stay on Truth Social, but if he wants his Presidential campaign to gain any sort of traction at all, he needs Twitter (which is slightly ironic considering, IMO, he lost the 2020 election due to his rampant unhinged tweets.) He needs to tone just slightly.
I need to block him this time so save my sanity. I was really happy for a long time when i didn't have to see his narisistic twaddle.

Lots of people are blaming Musk - but i think people are selfish too. They would only look for money and nothing more nothing less.
Wait who is selfish in this scenario? People who ask for decent conditions to work under new draconian leadership? Or an erratic new CEO who wants more money but drove out the people who made twitter profitable in the first place?

When the company is failing people leave and when company is progressing people rush to them - 3/75 engineers have bright future - mark my words. These 3 engineers are smarter than 72 engineers.
Look luck for those 3 engineers doing 75 engineers job Smiley
People are selfish - that is correct. They would always want to have comfortable environment while the boss does the job of keeping the employee comfortable.
The cycle is strange - but we have to wait and see the fate of these three engineers - maybe they all the tesla soon Smiley sometime patience is rewarded. I am sure the condition are favourable to work at twitter office.
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Orange Hitler's account has been reinstated! They wiped all of his followers through.

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump

IIRC Trump said he would stay on Truth Social, but if he wants his Presidential campaign to gain any sort of traction at all, he needs Twitter (which is slightly ironic considering, IMO, he lost the 2020 election due to his rampant unhinged tweets.) He needs to tone just slightly.
I need to block him this time so save my sanity. I was really happy for a long time when i didn't have to see his narisistic twaddle.

Lots of people are blaming Musk - but i think people are selfish too. They would only look for money and nothing more nothing less.
Wait who is selfish in this scenario?

1. People who ask for decent conditions to work under new draconian leadership?

2. Or an erratic new CEO who wants more money but drove out the people who made twitter profitable in the first place?

3. Or users who only wanted an edit button. Not what ever this train wreck is.

When the company is failing people leave and when company is progressing people rush to them - 3/75 engineers have bright future - mark my words. These 3 engineers are smarter than 72 engineers.
Look luck for those 3 engineers doing 75 engineers job Smiley
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Orange Hitler's account has been reinstated! They wiped all of his followers through.

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump

IIRC Trump said he would stay on Truth Social, but if he wants his Presidential campaign to gain any sort of traction at all, he needs Twitter (which is slightly ironic considering, IMO, he lost the 2020 election due to his rampant unhinged tweets.) He needs to tone just slightly.

...

This person has a fantastic career as a screenwriter ahead of him.



Edit: https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1849635/000119312522150801/d226205ds4.htm

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From December 22, 2021, until the expiration of 18 months thereafter, (the “TMTG Social Media Exclusivity Term”), President Trump has agreed to first channel any and all social media communications and posts coming from his personal profile to the Truth Social platform before posting that same social media communication and/or post to any other social media platform that is not Truth Social (collectively, “Non-TMTG Social Media”) until the expiration of “DJT/TMTG Social Media 6-Hour Exclusive” which means the period commencing when DJT posts any social media communication onto the Truth Social Platform and ending six (6) hours thereafter; provided that he may post social media communications from his personal profile that specifically relates to political messaging, political fundraising or get-out-the vote efforts at any time on any Non-TMTG social media platforms. Unless notice is given, the TMTG Social Media Exclusivity Term extends in perpetuity for additional 180-day terms. In the event of a force majeure as described in the License Agreement that lasts longer than 30 days, President Trump shall have the right to invoke the suspension of the “DJT/TMTG Social Media 6-Hour Exclusive.” If the Social Media Exclusivity Term were to expire but the License Agreement remained in effect, President Trump would be required to post contemporaneously to TruthSocial and Non-TMTG Social Media.

Lots of people are blaming Musk - but i think people are selfish too. They would only look for money and nothing more nothing less.
When the company is failing people leave and when company is progressing people rush to them - 3/75 engineers have bright future - mark my words. These 3 engineers are smarter than 72 engineers.
legendary
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Orange Hitler's account has been reinstated! They wiped all of his followers through.

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump

IIRC Trump said he would stay on Truth Social, but if he wants his Presidential campaign to gain any sort of traction at all, he needs Twitter (which is slightly ironic considering, IMO, he lost the 2020 election due to his rampant unhinged tweets.) He needs to tone just slightly.

...

This person has a fantastic career as a screenwriter ahead of him.



Edit: https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1849635/000119312522150801/d226205ds4.htm

Quote
From December 22, 2021, until the expiration of 18 months thereafter, (the “TMTG Social Media Exclusivity Term”), President Trump has agreed to first channel any and all social media communications and posts coming from his personal profile to the Truth Social platform before posting that same social media communication and/or post to any other social media platform that is not Truth Social (collectively, “Non-TMTG Social Media”) until the expiration of “DJT/TMTG Social Media 6-Hour Exclusive” which means the period commencing when DJT posts any social media communication onto the Truth Social Platform and ending six (6) hours thereafter; provided that he may post social media communications from his personal profile that specifically relates to political messaging, political fundraising or get-out-the vote efforts at any time on any Non-TMTG social media platforms. Unless notice is given, the TMTG Social Media Exclusivity Term extends in perpetuity for additional 180-day terms. In the event of a force majeure as described in the License Agreement that lasts longer than 30 days, President Trump shall have the right to invoke the suspension of the “DJT/TMTG Social Media 6-Hour Exclusive.” If the Social Media Exclusivity Term were to expire but the License Agreement remained in effect, President Trump would be required to post contemporaneously to TruthSocial and Non-TMTG Social Media.
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employees packing up their bags and leaving the company to rot now that they had to actually do work instead of being paid to chat





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Actually no one can knows it! Even Elon's himself Cheesy If I wasn't wrong he find a solution in amid of an interview and probably he will do it. He can make a decision about new update in a toilet :DJoke aside ofcourse it won't be same as before but he will move it in his businessman way. More profitable, more updates and more WTFs Cheesy
twitter will not go anywhere - it will stay there.
Musk was a success in tesla - Musk will be a success in twitter as well. The letter T is his lucky letter Smiley I think he will be able to manage it well.
My good wishes with Elon Musk
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Actually no one can knows it! Even Elon's himself Cheesy If I wasn't wrong he find a solution in amid of an interview and probably he will do it. He can make a decision about new update in a toilet :DJoke aside ofcourse it won't be same as before but he will move it in his businessman way. More profitable, more updates and more WTFs Cheesy
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