Musk has said he wants to transform twitter into an EVERYTHING app. An example is the popular Chinese WeChat.
He has talked previously about adding a payment system on the app, possibly a decentralised coin??
I feel like the current discourse suggests the app would become used like Discord but with a payment system, which would be very handy.
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I don't think it's on a wrong direction. I like the part that those huge profiles that has propaganda to run, they're probably are problematic with Elon's stance against their political will.
In line with Elon's attitude and way of managing the Twitter staffs. I think he's also applying what he's done to SpaceX, Starlink and Tesla and if it has been effective onto those companies. We're just seeing a glance of it because he's just starting to handle everything in Twitter. Although I don't like that style as it has lost people job security but that means pushing them to their utmost while he's on the management.
I've heard that he's also talking back to those that he's fired because they're the only ones that he can rely on doing their left post.
twitter hit the most number of users by the time Musk has been firing the people and the users are coming to the app to check the daily update. In line with Elon's attitude and way of managing the Twitter staffs. I think he's also applying what he's done to SpaceX, Starlink and Tesla and if it has been effective onto those companies. We're just seeing a glance of it because he's just starting to handle everything in Twitter. Although I don't like that style as it has lost people job security but that means pushing them to their utmost while he's on the management.
I've heard that he's also talking back to those that he's fired because they're the only ones that he can rely on doing their left post.
I'm sure - he has something on his mind too. He will build a better work environment.
It's like hitting two birds with one stone, while he's doing a lot of changes to the management. He's able to gain attention from people around the world. I guess on that part, he's already a winner and proven himself that eyes of the world is on him at most times.
With the last news that I've seen about it, he's trying to leave the post and wants to pass on the position to another one. We'll see if it will be for real or just another way to take everyone's attention.
Maybe hitting multiple birds with one stone ? Let's just stand back and take a look at a bigger picture. Many of us are focusing on how Elon manages or mismanages Twitter and what direction Twitter might be going as a company but is there any possibility that even his investment in Twitter is a complete failure, he does not really care that much. With his enormously proven success of building Tesla, SpaceX, Starlink etc and his explosive influence, his real purpose is to become a political leader and make policies to change the world ? At least he can and will cultivate a huge fan base to do crazy things in which they firmly believe ? If this were true, it would be much more important than simply making a company profitable.
Ignoring the repeated attempts to pin this POV on me, how is "getting rid of socialists" any better than "getting rid of Trump"?
Well, as you may know I don't like Trump too much although I liked some of his policies more than those carried out by Biden, but in this case it's not about Trump, it's about censoring content from a woke perspective.
Now he's kicked those people out, but as far as I know he's not censoring left wing content.
I'm not following. Do you think Twitter was censoring because it employed "socialists"? There were rules in place and people got banned for violating them. If you think those rules were "socialist", then shouldn't said rules be changed instead of firing people based on political beliefs? Last I heard Elon was going to convene some sort of diverse moderation council but then he went ahead and unbanned Trump/MTG/Kanye/etc without any council, and AFAIK the rules haven't changed either.
Apparently listing signal founder is a new twist in this. I wonder if he is just planning to buy signal as well or is he just asking for technical help as he doesn't have a clue if any of this could work. And why an earth we need to fuse twitter with signal-type chat? It's like he doesn't realize that it's working already, and open source and free.
But looks like he is admitting that he is planning to kill twitter as it is. Good riddance.
But looks like he is admitting that he is planning to kill twitter as it is. Good riddance.
He could turn things around in the next two years. That wouldn't change all the poor decisions he's made from when he signed the agreement till now.
Good point. That way you're going to be right no matter what, lol.
I mean, it's really just common sense.
He signed a deal agreeing to waive due diligence and buy the company in April and sells off billions in Tesla shares that he promised he wouldn't sell to finance it. Then he spends the next 6 months shitting on Twitter and trying to get out of the deal, basically paralyzing Twitter in the meantime. Finally realizes he has no choice but to close the deal, so he does. Then he goes into troll mode and scares off most advertisers (twitters main source of revenue). So here we are today, Tesla shares are at 2 year low, Elons net worth is 100 billion less than it was a year ago, Twitter has 14 billion of new debt and most of their revenue for 2023 has evaporated. According to Elon "bankruptcy is not off the table" (for Twitter, obviously).
While I'm sure Elon would appreciate your extraordinary level of simping, I think he would still agree with me that he made some very expensive fuck ups that could have been avoided. In fact I bet if he could do it all over again he would avoid becoming financially involved with the company so he could focus on getting to mars.
Whether it is for the benefit of mankind, imagining future social development, or developing high-tech products, MUSK is a businessman first, and then others. Of course, this is a neutral description, not a negative comment on MUSK himself. But I want Taking this as the premise of the discussion, under this premise, the development of twitter will definitely be related to commercialization, and it will be closely integrated with the concept of WEB3. With the maturity of WEB3, the commercial value of twitter will far exceed the present.
In the past two weeks, what I have seen is that MUSK is trying to touch WEB3 in the way of WEB2, and then build a development channel for twitter's WEB3ization. Taking Trump's twitter account as an example, Musk initiated a public vote, and according to The public opinion reflected in the vote restored Trump’s account. Isn’t this the previous version of DAO governance? I predict that Twitter will definitely implant a series of decentralized functions in the future.
Currently, the user base of the digital currency industry is still relatively small, but if Twitter’s user base and brand value can be successfully converted to WEB3, the return on Musk’s investment in Twitter will be very impressive.
In the past two weeks, what I have seen is that MUSK is trying to touch WEB3 in the way of WEB2, and then build a development channel for twitter's WEB3ization. Taking Trump's twitter account as an example, Musk initiated a public vote, and according to The public opinion reflected in the vote restored Trump’s account. Isn’t this the previous version of DAO governance? I predict that Twitter will definitely implant a series of decentralized functions in the future.
Currently, the user base of the digital currency industry is still relatively small, but if Twitter’s user base and brand value can be successfully converted to WEB3, the return on Musk’s investment in Twitter will be very impressive.
I don't think it's on a wrong direction. I like the part that those huge profiles that has propaganda to run, they're probably are problematic with Elon's stance against their political will.
In line with Elon's attitude and way of managing the Twitter staffs. I think he's also applying what he's done to SpaceX, Starlink and Tesla and if it has been effective onto those companies. We're just seeing a glance of it because he's just starting to handle everything in Twitter. Although I don't like that style as it has lost people job security but that means pushing them to their utmost while he's on the management.
I've heard that he's also talking back to those that he's fired because they're the only ones that he can rely on doing their left post.
twitter hit the most number of users by the time Musk has been firing the people and the users are coming to the app to check the daily update. In line with Elon's attitude and way of managing the Twitter staffs. I think he's also applying what he's done to SpaceX, Starlink and Tesla and if it has been effective onto those companies. We're just seeing a glance of it because he's just starting to handle everything in Twitter. Although I don't like that style as it has lost people job security but that means pushing them to their utmost while he's on the management.
I've heard that he's also talking back to those that he's fired because they're the only ones that he can rely on doing their left post.
I'm sure - he has something on his mind too. He will build a better work environment.
It's like hitting two birds with one stone, while he's doing a lot of changes to the management. He's able to gain attention from people around the world. I guess on that part, he's already a winner and proven himself that eyes of the world is on him at most times.
With the last news that I've seen about it, he's trying to leave the post and wants to pass on the position to another one. We'll see if it will be for real or just another way to take everyone's attention.
Isnt it too early to make conclusion on Elon Musks Twitter management and where Twitter would go, as Elon is in charge of it for less than a month? So far he is doing tactical permutations among employees, setting goals. As an example - no one believed in electric car at first, years have passed, and now cities are crowded by them. What do you expect from two weeks of Twitter ownership? Right now Elon is just playing with his new toy. Testing what actions lead to which results. I dont think Twitter would change much after a takeover from Elon Musk. So far twitter hasnt fall apart from. So far no big changes are made.
Ignoring the repeated attempts to pin this POV on me, how is "getting rid of socialists" any better than "getting rid of Trump"?
Well, as you may know I don't like Trump too much although I liked some of his policies more than those carried out by Biden, but in this case it's not about Trump, it's about censoring content from a woke perspective.
Now he's kicked those people out, but as far as I know he's not censoring left wing content.
Firing them is asking for trouble if e.g. someone decides to spam child porn on Twitter and the site is slow to react.
Agreed, I said in a previous comment that I believe they are understaffed now.
The company is not starting from scratch but for him it is starting from scratch, and, yes, I don't rule out that he may have made a fool of himself even though he is rich and has been successful in the past, but I will wait and see how it goes.
He could turn things around in the next two years. That wouldn't change all the poor decisions he's made from when he signed the agreement till now.
Good point. That way you're going to be right no matter what, lol.
Elon Musk acquired Twitter about two weeks agao and Twitter has been All the news everywhere. His bold moves of firing a big portion of staff, changing major Twitter features and making more modifications are spurring waves of controversy. His supporters and adversaries are quite in fights. Where will Elon Musk lead Twitter ? Is Twitter heading to a wrong direction ?
You are very specific in the restlessness, it definitely generates passions El-on.
If you check other companies there are similar movements in decision making but they don't generate as much "smoke" as El-on.
Twitter is one of the social networks of that golden age that was stuck in growth of new users, at least compared to Youtube, Facebook, primarily. With any other successful network of the so-called "billion" users, it is later.
In other words, Twitter is so fucking behind in relation to its old competitors (not to mention the new social networks) that any result will be positive.
Until now, social networks have shown that they reach a stagnation point of "loyal" users and any social network that implements "novelty" achieves an growth of users.
But! I don't think that in the short term Twitter managed to attract a large number of new users, so in the short term it only seeks to be profitable.
Then, as other old social networks have shown, you don't need to be in the elite of the so-called "billion" to be profit.
That is why decisions as controversial as charging for a verified account, for example, only seek to make a profit in the short term.
Not to mention everything that politically means having a social network like Twitter, this acquisition not only has a commercial element, there are many edges to analyze in this acquisition, including El-On's known Snobbery.
You're giving OGNasty a run for his money in bitcointalks biggest Elon simp competition.
Look, I have had very heated discussions with suchmoon, but we have never reached the point of insult, so you better keep these things to yourself if you want to debate. Otherwise I'll put you on ignore.
Objectively, Elon taking over twitter has a been a complete disaster - from the day he decided to spend $44 billion without any due diligence, to needlessly putting the company he was legally obligated to buy into crisis mode for months before taking it over and instantly torching most of his 2023 revenue...I could keep going...
Of course, of course. I have hardly seen you on the forum and from what you say here I already deduce that you are a socialist.
Answer me one thing: what do you care if he throws the money away?
I'd better wait a year or two to check that supposed objectivity you are talking about.
He could turn things around in the next two years. That wouldn't change all the poor decisions he's made from when he signed the agreement till now.
According to some experts, Twitter is about to introduce a new plan to support the platform's revenues and try to bridge the deficit it suffers from. The idea is that Twitter will offer video content creators to publish their videos on Twitter for an additional 10 percent over what YouTube offers. Almost this is the only logical plan among all the measures taken by Musk
Youtube pays content creators from ad revenue. Twitter has maybe 1/5 of Youtube's ad revenue, and is losing it thanks to Elon's shenanigans.
turing to 50 from approx 4000 employee will save so much of the money.
Elon will surly get back on the track in a few months time. Twitter will flourish like tesla. And it surely will.
Elon will surly get back on the track in a few months time. Twitter will flourish like tesla. And it surely will.
I can't tell anymore if you're being sarcastic or just don't understand how things work in real world.
Twitter's entire payroll is less than the $1.2 billion interest payment, so even if Elon fires everyone and sells all office chairs and staplers, he can't plug that hole. He needs more revenue, all other things being equal. Thus the desperate ill-conceived attempts like selling the blue checkmarks and now trying to undercut Youtube. Solid plan - fire people that make the system run and throw money at "influencers". What could possibly go wrong.
I think a 5 year old in charge of a candy store would do a better job than the narcissistic giga-troll in charge of Twitter.
He has made a big investment and he is not going to give up. $ 1.2 billion is not a small amount. I was not much aware of the amount. Will do my research - thank you for pointing it out.
I am surprised by this exaggerated statement. It wouldn't be that you don't like his ideology or that for example, he would like to reinstate Trump's account and the rest is an after-the-fact rationalization?
I'm surprised that you bring Trump into this discussion.
To say that about the richest guy in the world is surprising, to say the least.
We are witnessing clear proof that all the money in the world can't make someone an expert of all things.
Although in his case he has also been greatly benefited by the massive printing policies that have made his companies trade at very high P/E ratios, as I commented in my previous post, but, come on, painting him as someone who has no idea about business saying that a 5 year old would do better.... I'd better wait and see where twitter is in a year. As you are well aware, many companies operate at a loss in the early stages and I'm sure he has a plan going forward.
Twitter is way past its early stages. It's been operating at a loss for a long time but has been (briefly/barely) profitable recently. I doubt it needed to be razed to the ground and rebuilt. Want more free speech? Fine. Why fire (or force to quit) techies though? Or sales people? Even content moderators not all were engaged in "socialism". Firing them is asking for trouble if e.g. someone decides to spam child porn on Twitter and the site is slow to react.
What I see that he has done is to get rid of the socialists, and I think that is what bothers many of you.
Let's see if getting rid of all the people who were going to the office for entertainment and to censor what the democrats didn't like has worked out well for him or not.
Let's see if getting rid of all the people who were going to the office for entertainment and to censor what the democrats didn't like has worked out well for him or not.
Ignoring the repeated attempts to pin this POV on me, how is "getting rid of socialists" any better than "getting rid of Trump"?
Anyway, I've never been a fan of Twitter (search my post history if you don't believe me) and for all I care it can disappear tomorrow and I wouldn't notice. I also couldn't care less about Elon's $40 billion (well, mostly not really "Elon's" but whatever). All I'm commenting on is the shitshow that he created with this acquisition. I've been through corporate mergers and other upheavals and I've seen all kinds of ludicrous mismanagement, or so I thought... this is some next level shit though.
Edit: shpelling.
You're giving OGNasty a run for his money in bitcointalks biggest Elon simp competition.
Look, I have had very heated discussions with suchmoon, but we have never reached the point of insult, so you better keep these things to yourself if you want to debate. Otherwise I'll put you on ignore.
Objectively, Elon taking over twitter has a been a complete disaster - from the day he decided to spend $44 billion without any due diligence, to needlessly putting the company he was legally obligated to buy into crisis mode for months before taking it over and instantly torching most of his 2023 revenue...I could keep going...
Of course, of course. I have hardly seen you on the forum and from what you say here I already deduce that you are a socialist.
Answer me one thing: what do you care if he throws the money away?
I'd better wait a year or two to check that supposed objectivity you are talking about.
I am surprised by this exaggerated statement. It wouldn't be that you don't like his ideology or that for example, he would like to reinstate Trump's account and the rest is an after-the-fact rationalization?
To say that about the richest guy in the world is surprising, to say the least.
To say that about the richest guy in the world is surprising, to say the least.
You're giving OGNasty a run for his money in bitcointalks biggest Elon simp competition.
Objectively, Elon taking over twitter has a been a complete disaster - from the day he decided to spend $44 billion without any due diligence, to needlessly putting the company he was legally obligated to buy into crisis mode for months before taking it over and instantly torching most of his 2023 revenue...I could keep going...
I think a 5 year old in charge of a candy store would do a better job than the narcissistic giga-troll in charge of Twitter.
I am surprised by this exaggerated statement. It wouldn't be that you don't like his ideology or that for example, he would like to reinstate Trump's account and the rest is an after-the-fact rationalization?
To say that about the richest guy in the world is surprising, to say the least.
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Although in his case he has also been greatly benefited by the massive printing policies that have made his companies trade at very high P/E ratios, as I commented in my previous post, but, come on, painting him as someone who has no idea about business saying that a 5 year old would do better.... I'd better wait and see where twitter is in a year. As you are well aware, many companies operate at a loss in the early stages and I'm sure he has a plan going forward.
What I see that he has done is to get rid of the socialists, and I think that is what bothers many of you.
Let's see if getting rid of all the people who were going to the office for entertainment and to censor what the democrats didn't like has worked out well for him or not.
According to some experts, Twitter is about to introduce a new plan to support the platform's revenues and try to bridge the deficit it suffers from. The idea is that Twitter will offer video content creators to publish their videos on Twitter for an additional 10 percent over what YouTube offers. Almost this is the only logical plan among all the measures taken by Musk
Youtube pays content creators from ad revenue. Twitter has maybe 1/5 of Youtube's ad revenue, and is losing it thanks to Elon's shenanigans.
turing to 50 from approx 4000 employee will save so much of the money.
Elon will surly get back on the track in a few months time. Twitter will flourish like tesla. And it surely will.
Elon will surly get back on the track in a few months time. Twitter will flourish like tesla. And it surely will.
I can't tell anymore if you're being sarcastic or just don't understand how things work in real world.
Twitter's entire payroll is less than the $1.2 billion interest payment, so even if Elon fires everyone and sells all office chairs and staplers, he can't plug that hole. He needs more revenue, all other things being equal. Thus the desperate ill-conceived attempts like selling the blue checkmarks and now trying to undercut Youtube. Solid plan - fire people that make the system run and throw money at "influencers". What could possibly go wrong.
I think a 5 year old in charge of a candy store would do a better job than the narcissistic giga-troll in charge of Twitter.
Elon Musk acquired Twitter about two weeks agao and Twitter has been All the news everywhere. His bold moves of firing a big portion of staff, changing major Twitter features and making more modifications are spurring waves of controversy. His supporters and adversaries are quite in fights. Where will Elon Musk lead Twitter ? Is Twitter heading to a wrong direction ?
The problem had already started and this will take much negotiation for Twitter to stay on the right track since the remaining employees are planning to resign since Elon Must had development much ego with pride that he is going to sack more people if he does not get what he wanted from the team. Let's see how this will play out. According to some experts, Twitter is about to introduce a new plan to support the platform's revenues and try to bridge the deficit it suffers from. The idea is that Twitter will offer video content creators to publish their videos on Twitter for an additional 10 percent over what YouTube offers. Almost this is the only logical plan among all the measures taken by Musk, especially since laying off half of the employees will not provide additional income to the platform of the required size, in addition to the project of selling the verification badge is not a good idea and may encourage advertisers to leave the platform.
Ok, this is beyond hilarious. Let me get this straight: He wants youtube content creators to come on twitter, offers to pay them 10% more per view then what youtube pays?
So i am assuming that's everyone who post videos who sign for this deal?
The part i am not getting is, where does the money come from? From his own pockets? And he wants to go against the biggest steaming service and make it some sort of youtube alternative when he struggles to manage twitter as it is? It's like he doesn't know what he is doing. My bet is he doesn't
He should've bought porn hub.
According to some experts, Twitter is about to introduce a new plan to support the platform's revenues and try to bridge the deficit it suffers from. The idea is that Twitter will offer video content creators to publish their videos on Twitter for an additional 10 percent over what YouTube offers. Almost this is the only logical plan among all the measures taken by Musk, especially since laying off half of the employees will not provide additional income to the platform of the required size, in addition to the project of selling the verification badge is not a good idea and may encourage advertisers to leave the platform.
Ok, this is beyond hilarious. Let me get this straight: He wants youtube content creators to come on twitter, offers to pay them 10% more per view then what youtube pays?
So i am assuming that's everyone who post videos who sign for this deal?
The part i am not getting is, where does the money come from? From his own pockets? And he wants to go against the biggest steaming service and make it some sort of youtube alternative when he struggles to manage twitter as it is? It's like he doesn't know what he is doing. My bet is he doesn't
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