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November 15, 2024, 09:06:19 AM

Yes, the possibility of addiction applies to everyone regardless of who they are, old or young, poor or rich, everyone has the opportunity to end up becoming an addict, and in the end the point is not much different from what you said that if we don't want to end up addicted then gamble wisely in the sense of gambling with full limits on time and the amount of money at stake.
Therefore, this is the reason why I often say and advise anyone, especially those closest to me, to first understand what they are actually facing, the way is to rely on a rational mindset in responding to gambling so that you do not misunderstand what is meant by the chance of winning in gambling, and if you have done everything well and correctly then I think you should be free from addiction.
If only possibility, that was true but he is talking about same chances there, which I disagree because not all are vulnerable. Also, in most countries, the legal age of gambling is 18 years old and above, so there is no way that young people are going to get addicted on it, however there are still video games which has a loot boxes (which is said to be another form of gambling) and a lot of kids are addicted to it.

If we still talk about the age, there are really-old people who are not capable anymore of gambling or do any other addictive things but they are only waiting for their lives to end. (I'm sorry if that sounds offensive, I don't mean it though). Same goes to the new-born individuals.

The only thing, they can do is to eat (drink milk) and wait for them to grow. If we don't want to end up becoming an addict in gambling, then there is a better way than still gambling but playing wisely and that is none other than to not gamble at all.

This is more sure because I'm sure that no matter how confident we are, there will be something that will play tricks on us and screw us in the process. Gambling is not hard to understand and we will literally just push the button to play but the problem is our emotions that can jump depending on the outcome of the game.

Previously thank you for detailing everything my friend, but above I spoke in general and aren't all the details you explained also included in the category that I explained regarding young or old and poor or rich? I think so, so I think there is no problem with that, the point is that addiction does apply to everyone involved in gambling and the only thing that can save them is to have the right understanding and awareness regarding what and how the concept of gambling really is, especially in winning.

If you don't want to be addicted then don't get involved in gambling at all? of course, everyone knows that when you are not involved in the activity then you will not experience the positive or negative impacts of the activity, but the problem is doesn't everyone have their own right to choose whatever they want to do my friend? of course, therefore above I direct my ideas more to some suggestions that I think are useful to prevent someone involved in gambling from gambling addiction, namely by knowing and understanding first about what activity you are actually facing regardless of the unwanted possibilities when someone has gone through the process.
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November 15, 2024, 03:48:17 AM
1. If you are jobless you are vulnerable to anything.
2. If all you focused on is getting rich quick you are vulnerable to anything.
Well, that's true, if someone is jobless then that person often tries to find ways to earn money and when such people find gambling on online casinos then that person often starts daydreaming about earning so much money from it.

It's not easy to get rich when you can't afford to fulfill your everyday needs, and that's why one should first get a job to fulfill his/her everyday needs and then gamble if he/she earns some extra money by doing part time job.
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November 15, 2024, 02:31:32 AM
1. If you are jobless you are vulnerable to anything.
2. If all you focused on is getting rich quick you are vulnerable to anything.

I fear these two types of people, there is a saying that people who don't have anything going on for themselves will turn evil very fast because they have too much free time doing nothing.

Children are to concentrate on their education and adults are to concentrate on their jobs, but today things are getting out of hands, everyone want things to happen faster, things are hard I get but lack of understanding that good things take time will send many people down the trap holes.

Gambling needs to be mastered, not to be consumed by get rich quick.
This will come back to each individual, because there are also people with busy activities who also become uncontrollable in their gambling, especially when they have money. That's what happened to one of my friends when I was still working with him. He worked and the distance traveled from home to work took a long time. So logically he spent quite a short time to rest.
But what happened? he was willing to not sleep and work in a sleepy state because he spent all night gambling. Actually I wouldn't have known that if he hadn't told me himself.
Now we have lost communication, but I hope he can be better at controlling himself.
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November 15, 2024, 02:02:06 AM
1. If you are jobless you are vulnerable to anything.
2. If all you focused on is getting rich quick you are vulnerable to anything.

I fear these two types of people, there is a saying that people who don't have anything going on for themselves will turn evil very fast because they have too much free time doing nothing.

Children are to concentrate on their education and adults are to concentrate on their jobs, but today things are getting out of hands, everyone want things to happen faster, things are hard I get but lack of understanding that good things take time will send many people down the trap holes.

Gambling needs to be mastered, not to be consumed by get rich quick.
What you are saying I think is very true, because indeed economic instability and social pressure can encourage people to look for shortcuts, such as gambling or get-rich-quick schemes, which are often high-risk and unsustainable.  In addition, patience in achieving long-term goals is a principle that we should instill in today's young generation,

The saying you mentioned reminds us that having meaningful goals and activities is very important for mental and emotional well-being, especially the family, to prevent what you fear, we should be the foremost pillar that supports children and adolescents in their education, so that the future is more assured that they will get when they grow up later.
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November 15, 2024, 01:38:05 AM
1. If you are jobless you are vulnerable to anything.
2. If all you focused on is getting rich quick you are vulnerable to anything.

I fear these two types of people, there is a saying that people who don't have anything going on for themselves will turn evil very fast because they have too much free time doing nothing.

Children are to concentrate on their education and adults are to concentrate on their jobs, but today things are getting out of hands, everyone want things to happen faster, things are hard I get but lack of understanding that good things take time will send many people down the trap holes.

Gambling needs to be mastered, not to be consumed by get rich quick.
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November 15, 2024, 01:09:30 AM
The most vulnerable are the jobless ones, those that don't earn a living and with the fact that they had a one time win had urge them to go into taking gambling as a source of living and income and looking at the rate of gambling addiction the younger generations are another vulnerable person's that as turned addict while  journeying in the quest for quick money. And it seems the rate of gambling addiction keeps going higher and this has to stop cause it's resulting to alot of damages in the lives of the individuals and society.

Nobody seems to be willing to do anything to address gambling addiction on a government scale. Sure, you can geoblock casinos, but a shady entity will just fly under the radar and advertise on questionable local sites.
It depends on the actual regulation because in this case when there is a regulation where gambling becomes illegal in a country then indeed they will try to make a breakthrough by blocking gambling sites but the focus is only as a responsibility for the regulations they set but not necessarily responsible for the addiction of gamblers in their country.
But by trying to ban at least they feel that it can reduce the number of gambling to be smaller and addiction can be slightly anticipated as a domino effect of the ban.

Even so, on some occasions we also realize that sometimes it doesn't look at anything so in the end even those government officials still gamble a lot today so they won't think of others in the real addiction problem because they (the officials) are still in the scope of gambling as players and still try not to be considered as addicts for now.
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November 15, 2024, 12:39:00 AM
The problem is that the parents aren't free with their children. In Western countries, most parents work, and their children live alone in the house, and sometimes they don't even have friends outside of school. So, they end up on the internet and spend their time browsing various and restricted things to which they should not have access.

But the parents aren't aware of those things because they are busy handling their business or job. In other countries, children mostly love to spend time with friends, and the parents are a little harsh with their children. If parents know their children's doing something bad, they even beat their children, which western countries consider as child abuse.
You are right because not just in Western countries, in many countries have the same thing so attention for their children will be less. They are busy to work and earn money but they forget to educate, take closest to their children, communicate and other things that will help them to manage their relationship. And when their parents just gives them device and money without trying to gets deeper with their children, they can use that for many things including browsing various and restricted things that they should not do in their ages.

Parents becomes far from their children and their children becomes rebel to their parents and run away from family because they thinks that they are alone and they will closest to their friends. They thinks that their friends knows everything but it is not because they are still younger which needs to learn many things.
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November 15, 2024, 12:09:17 AM
When parents and children have a strong relation, they will not shy to share many things and discuss each other so they will have a chance to protect each other, not just parents to their children but vice versa. It needs more attention from parents to guide their children so they can grow up without having a problem and can enjoy their life better.

The problem is that the parents aren't free with their children. In Western countries, most parents work, and their children live alone in the house, and sometimes they don't even have friends outside of school. So, they end up on the internet and spend their time browsing various and restricted things to which they should not have access.

But the parents aren't aware of those things because they are busy handling their business or job. In other countries, children mostly love to spend time with friends, and the parents are a little harsh with their children. If parents know their children's doing something bad, they even beat their children, which western countries consider as child abuse.
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November 14, 2024, 05:56:33 PM
Dealing up with gambling should really be on someone who are already into their right age and right awareness and perceptions towards thing. If you are really that being too desperate
then you are really that bound to have some issues and you should really be that trying out to avoid it as much as you could.
Trying it out for as long as you could be is hard from those people that are mostly vulnerable with their status of life. The poor, the jobless, the average guy, the rich, I mean in every aspect of life and status, everyone can be the most vulnerable ones that can be addicted to gambling. And even the ones that are on the right age, there's no escape on it because no matter how you're going to do and control yourself from being one, you'll never know how long your patience is and how long your limits are.
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November 14, 2024, 05:18:03 PM
When it comes down to addiction and what kind of gamblers are most likely to be addicts,I think the point to look at it from would be, the motive why some people gamble.
Those who gamble for fun are most likely not going to be addicts, hell no. They’ve got a good but not a far more important or dire reason to gamble. It’s more like, buying some fun with money and that’s it. If they can’t do that, then they’ll keep their cool eventually.
Well, lemme also remind you that whatever it is that you do, be it for fun or money, there's a possibility of becoming an expert with time, thereby understanding how to navigate through -- that alone is one way to fall into Ludopathy; as long as they derive PLEASURE (regardless of if it's the pleasure from making a huge win, or just playing around) they can still be addicted to it..

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When it comes down to those who gamble because they need it, those who gamble to survive, it gets real. Given that gambling is highly based on luck and you seeking out that luck in the form of a breakthrough in your finances from gambling, you would find yourself gambling often than necessary and that’s how addiction builds.
Hold on a second, what's the difference between a gambler that gets a seat on a baccarat table just for fun, and an intentional gambler?? Haven't you heard cases where a rookie sweeps a casino off their base with a huge win that sometimes, is being paid instalmentally? Don't play!

"a young girl picked a piece of paper from the trashcan in my local stall and wrote out some random numbers from the fixtures"... Guess what? That was it! #18,000,000.
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November 14, 2024, 03:08:41 PM
Who is most vulnerable? Of course everyone who gambles has the same chance of becoming addicted to gambling, both old and young can become addicted at any time when you or all of us lose control. So the key to minimizing gambling addiction is to try to stay rational, control yourself, and disciplined management in gambling.
Yes, the possibility of addiction applies to everyone regardless of who they are, old or young, poor or rich, everyone has the opportunity to end up becoming an addict, and in the end the point is not much different from what you said that if we don't want to end up addicted then gamble wisely in the sense of gambling with full limits on time and the amount of money at stake.
Therefore, this is the reason why I often say and advise anyone, especially those closest to me, to first understand what they are actually facing, the way is to rely on a rational mindset in responding to gambling so that you do not misunderstand what is meant by the chance of winning in gambling, and if you have done everything well and correctly then I think you should be free from addiction.
If only possibility, that was true but he is talking about same chances there, which I disagree because not all are vulnerable. Also, in most countries, the legal age of gambling is 18 years old and above, so there is no way that young people are going to get addicted on it, however there are still video games which has a loot boxes (which is said to be another form of gambling) and a lot of kids are addicted to it.

If we still talk about the age, there are really-old people who are not capable anymore of gambling or do any other addictive things but they are only waiting for their lives to end. (I'm sorry if that sounds offensive, I don't mean it though). Same goes to the new-born individuals.

The only thing, they can do is to eat (drink milk) and wait for them to grow. If we don't want to end up becoming an addict in gambling, then there is a better way than still gambling but playing wisely and that is none other than to not gamble at all.

This is more sure because I'm sure that no matter how confident we are, there will be something that will play tricks on us and screw us in the process. Gambling is not hard to understand and we will literally just push the button to play but the problem is our emotions that can jump depending on the outcome of the game.
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November 14, 2024, 07:35:06 AM
Gambling is a lot easier to access now than before. So it is no surprise if more people find themselves gambling. Unfortunately, not a lot of us can be responsible enough to prevent ourselves from falling into deep addiction. This probes the question, who are the most vulnerable to falling into a gambling addiction?

We already know that less privileged people are more prone to getting addicted to gambling with the involvement of financial reward. They are the ones chasing more wins because they actually need the money. The more money they get, the deeper they get into the addiction.
Who is most vulnerable? Of course everyone who gambles has the same chance of becoming addicted to gambling, both old and young can become addicted at any time when you or all of us lose control. So the key to minimizing gambling addiction is to try to stay rational, control yourself, and disciplined management in gambling.

Yes, the possibility of addiction applies to everyone regardless of who they are, old or young, poor or rich, everyone has the opportunity to end up becoming an addict, and in the end the point is not much different from what you said that if we don't want to end up addicted then gamble wisely in the sense of gambling with full limits on time and the amount of money at stake.
Therefore, this is the reason why I often say and advise anyone, especially those closest to me, to first understand what they are actually facing, the way is to rely on a rational mindset in responding to gambling so that you do not misunderstand what is meant by the chance of winning in gambling, and if you have done everything well and correctly then I think you should be free from addiction.
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November 14, 2024, 06:10:34 AM
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Re: Who are the most vulnerable
As somebody that's living on a developing country, I believe that the most vulnerable right now are those poor and middle class that have salaries that are barely enough for the whole family for a month.

Anybody can be vulnerable when it comes to gambling because anybody can try it, anybody that has access to smartphone and an internet can try it, anybody that has an idea to it can try it, anybody that are curious on what gambling can give to a person can try it as well. I stated that the poor and middle-class people are the ones that are the most vulnerable just because some of them might've seen some advertisements somewhere regarding people who earned lots of money just by doing gambling and will have this thinking of "If they can achieve it, so do I." hence, they will also try it since they're also having a hard time financially and they see gambling as their only way to be rich, or at least live a better life.

While there are certain factors to it, all of us are very vulnerable when it comes to gambling. It will all depends on our financial status, our mindset, how we see gambling and many more.
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November 14, 2024, 04:35:02 AM
The question is, who is going to explain gambling to them? Casinos promote their business because that is what they do. However, we are average people, and we cannot spend thousands of dollars just to spread awareness. All we can do is write a post on social media or forums and not fall for gambling too early. But I don't think those people will see that.

The parents should be more careful with their kids. They should monitor where their children are spending money and what they do with the device. In most countries, kids have access to smartphones and computers which they can use to do whatever they want. 
Their parents will be the person who takes responsibility to their children. If parents awareness can increase and can give explanation to their children about many things related to gambling, that will helps their children from gambling. If many parents can do the same thing to educate their children, the problem in gambling may reduce a lot because children will know that playing gambling can not gives them money but will makes them lose.

When parents and children have a strong relation, they will not shy to share many things and discuss each other so they will have a chance to protect each other, not just parents to their children but vice versa. It needs more attention from parents to guide their children so they can grow up without having a problem and can enjoy their life better.
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November 14, 2024, 03:04:43 AM
The most vulnerable are the jobless ones, those that don't earn a living and with the fact that they had a one time win had urge them to go into taking gambling as a source of living and income and looking at the rate of gambling addiction the younger generations are another vulnerable person's that as turned addict while  journeying in the quest for quick money. And it seems the rate of gambling addiction keeps going higher and this has to stop cause it's resulting to alot of damages in the lives of the individuals and society.

Nobody seems to be willing to do anything to address gambling addiction on a government scale. Sure, you can geoblock casinos, but a shady entity will just fly under the radar and advertise on questionable local sites.
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November 14, 2024, 02:59:06 AM
from the top of my head without even thinking twice, the people that are most vaulnaurable to becoming gambling addict are those that are somehow financially incapacitated and that are at the same time less busy with work. The simple reason is that when you're not engaged in activities that consume most of your time, you're left at the mercy of doing anything to keep yourself busy and as long as you've chosen gambling as that activity, you're going to fall deeply addicted almost without remedy.

As much as we want to restrict our conversation to gambling,  it's good to point out that anything that's related to addiction has a lot to do with being idle and not having what you're doing to keep yourself really busy. An idle mind Births a lot of possibilities and that's the root cause of gambling addiction. It makes you vaulnaurable and pushes you to go against your set out gambling rules be your an adult, a teenager, a male or a female.


I agree with you that people that can easily get addicted to gambling are those people who are handicapped financially because they are the major loss chasers, they believe that they can be very wealthy through gambling as such missing priorities failing to understand that in gambling, losing is part of the game, once you lose, you accept it and continue if you want to, not having in mind that you will surely get your lost funds, people that understand gambling never get stucked on the way.
I want you to understand that someone can be very busy and stil  gamble aggressively, currently you must not go to live casinos or bet shops to gamble, anyone can gamble at the convenience of their hoem or anywhere they are, so no matter how busy people are, they can gamble uncontrollably, it all depends on individual mindset and the nature of their job too.

Though idleness is also a factor in real sense but as I said earlier it depends on individual mindset, there are people that are iddle but still do things normal, gambling addiction is caused by greed and inability of someone to controls his or her urge of wanting to arrive at impossible point.
On the moment that you do chase up loses with gambling then you are already that making yourself having that guaranteed situation on which you will really be ending up on getting addicted due to that kind of impulsiveness when it comes into your gambling loses and would really be trying out to make those kind of behavior on which this one is really that not recommended.  When it comes into those people who are vulnerable on which there's no exemption on who would really be the one will really be able to get addicted once they do mold up such kind of mindset and impressions towards it.
Gamble for fun and never ever to chase up loses because on the time that you do have that kind of plan then you might really be having that kind of tendency that you might be that ending up on some problems.

Dealing up with gambling should really be on someone who are already into their right age and right awareness and perceptions towards thing. If you are really that being too desperate
then you are really that bound to have some issues and you should really be that trying out to avoid it as much as you could.
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November 14, 2024, 02:27:47 AM
We can’t stop the addiction of others, but yes, if it’s about ourselves, then we need to always try hard to find the solution. I don’t think there are any specific categories who are vulnerable to the world of gambling. I only know that two types of people gamble. One is the rich person, and another is the poor person. A poor person stops gambling when all of his money is gone. But a rich guy gambles to satisfy his ego and hence gets an addiction. Controlling the funds provided for gambling can really help these rich brats to stop gambling.
Says who? The poor suffer so much ridicule in your hands simply because they are poor and because you believe they are classless, while the rich always enjoy the automatic praise simply because they are rich. But this is not always true, "the rich also cry" and it's not all the poor people who are senseless, so let's stop painting the poor as entirely brainless all the time.

It is not all the poor who would finish their money before they leave the casino, if you view that as untrue, look around you, you may ask questions from people as well, only a small proportion do that. Also, many rich people get intoxicated with money and ego at times and overspend too, they may realise this when it is too late. Even if they do not show the pain, that doesn't mean it did not hurt them. Their better leverage is that they already have a working business, they will always have something good to fall back at.
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November 14, 2024, 12:24:56 AM
Even if they know that is a gambling games, they will not think much about that and still deposit some money from the way that they know. Yes, they see the big wins on social media or other apps so that makes them curious. That is normal for teenager that want to know many things including curious with gambling but if they have knowledge about gambling that explain them to be careful, they will consider not to click the link. The curiosity in their ages will be high as they want to explore many things that they don't know before. So without a proper guidance from their parents, they can gets in a wrong way that can harm their life.

The question is, who is going to explain gambling to them? Casinos promote their business because that is what they do. However, we are average people, and we cannot spend thousands of dollars just to spread awareness. All we can do is write a post on social media or forums and not fall for gambling too early. But I don't think those people will see that.

The parents should be more careful with their kids. They should monitor where their children are spending money and what they do with the device. In most countries, kids have access to smartphones and computers which they can use to do whatever they want. 
Awearness to anything should start from homes, just as you mentioned that parent should look after their kids and make sure to kmow what and where they are spending their money on, you are right about kids having access to devices and gadgets that could be used for gambling and other stuff.

Ordinary and average people can not spend their hard earned money to spread Awearness of the dangers of gambling from a tender age, and casinos can only try their best by telling users to make sure they are 18 and above before signing up on their casino to gamble, most casinos dont even implement any measured to ensure that this rule is effective.
So, the whole thing falls on the shoulder of parents and guidians to look after their children and wards, and make sure they aren't into this stuff while they are under aged.
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November 14, 2024, 12:16:47 AM
Even if they know that is a gambling games, they will not think much about that and still deposit some money from the way that they know. Yes, they see the big wins on social media or other apps so that makes them curious. That is normal for teenager that want to know many things including curious with gambling but if they have knowledge about gambling that explain them to be careful, they will consider not to click the link. The curiosity in their ages will be high as they want to explore many things that they don't know before. So without a proper guidance from their parents, they can gets in a wrong way that can harm their life.

The question is, who is going to explain gambling to them? Casinos promote their business because that is what they do. However, we are average people, and we cannot spend thousands of dollars just to spread awareness. All we can do is write a post on social media or forums and not fall for gambling too early. But I don't think those people will see that.

The parents should be more careful with their kids. They should monitor where their children are spending money and what they do with the device. In most countries, kids have access to smartphones and computers which they can use to do whatever they want. 
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November 13, 2024, 10:00:22 AM
The same way the poor can gamble until they get broke and don't have any money again to sponsor their gambling life, that's also how the rich can end up with nothing if they don't gamble responsibly.
 
The poor are not the only ones that gamble for money, and no one is immune to addiction. You gamble without risk management and self-control; the high chance of losing money and yourself to the game is very high.
Gambling is a rich man's game but it becomes serious for poor people, many people who have financial problems and they are looking for ways to fix it and not a few people like this run to gambling hoping that the funds they allocate can multiply and make them profit quickly, but instead of wanting to improve the situation, what happens is that it makes the situation more complicated.

The chances of losing money in gambling are indeed high, because for the host they have a greater chance of winning while for the player they only have a smaller chance of winning, but many force themselves to win and what happens is they lose control of themselves and money in large amounts.
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