Topic: Who are THEY? Are they Muslim? (Read 4320 times)

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 19, 2015, 07:38:03 AM

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Like I said many times, they spread disinformation and also that verses are either mistranslated(possible mistranslation(low chance) or out of context verses. Some people quoted it here and I have replied what it is. Almost all of them were out of context verses and also it is for defense not for killing innocents.

Of course, Muslims rubber band the definition of "defense" to include just about anything they want to do, don't they?

All Palestinian bombings of innocent people are of course "Defense".

USA supports Israel, so it is the "Great Satan", so bombing USA is also good "Defense."

I am not saying Zakir makes these rationalizations but they are very commonly done in the Islamic world.

I understand what you are saying but there are rules for starting a war which obviously those terrorists aren't following and furthermore, they aren't following most rules at all.

Clearly Islam embraces diversity.

Those who think Islam is peaceful.
Those who think Islam is peaceful but let's kill all the Jews (somehow it's self defense of course).
Those who think Islam is peaceful but let's kill all the Jews and destroy the Great Satan.
Those who think Islam is not peaceful.
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But Islam doesn't tell to kill all Jews.

I am expanding more on the popular interpretations and beliefs derived from clerics talking up the Koran, rather than your particular beliefs. Thus, Islam "embraces diversity" - including your beliefs.

Just think, you can have your cake and eat it too. You can benefit from a "religion of peace" and at the same time, have the advantages of a "religion of violence."

May I know what that interpretations are because my belief is Islam and Islam doesn't tell to kil Jews? You may have heard/saw wrong things.

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Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 19, 2015, 01:14:55 PM

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Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 19, 2015, 07:38:03 AM

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Like I said many times, they spread disinformation and also that verses are either mistranslated(possible mistranslation(low chance) or out of context verses. Some people quoted it here and I have replied what it is. Almost all of them were out of context verses and also it is for defense not for killing innocents.

Of course, Muslims rubber band the definition of "defense" to include just about anything they want to do, don't they?

All Palestinian bombings of innocent people are of course "Defense".

USA supports Israel, so it is the "Great Satan", so bombing USA is also good "Defense."

I am not saying Zakir makes these rationalizations but they are very commonly done in the Islamic world.

I understand what you are saying but there are rules for starting a war which obviously those terrorists aren't following and furthermore, they aren't following most rules at all.

Clearly Islam embraces diversity.

Those who think Islam is peaceful.
Those who think Islam is peaceful but let's kill all the Jews (somehow it's self defense of course).
Those who think Islam is peaceful but let's kill all the Jews and destroy the Great Satan.
Those who think Islam is not peaceful.
......

But Islam doesn't tell to kill all Jews.

I am expanding more on the popular interpretations and beliefs derived from clerics talking up the Koran, rather than your particular beliefs. Thus, Islam "embraces diversity" - including your beliefs.

Just think, you can have your cake and eat it too. You can benefit from a "religion of peace" and at the same time, have the advantages of a "religion of violence."

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Quote from: RodeoX on May 19, 2015, 03:26:38 PM

If you really want to challenge your beliefs ...

You have good points.

People are representatives of God ...

For the record, I think DASCH is barbaric and they should be put to the sword. lol
The God I heard about growing up wanted us to be good to each other and did not care about us eating shrimp. But in truth, he did not say that to me. [/devils advocate]

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Quote from: RodeoX on May 19, 2015, 03:26:38 PM

If you really want to challenge your beliefs ask yourself if ISIS could be right. No one knows the mind of God, perhaps he fully supports the acts of DASCH. They think so and who am I to disagree? They are much more in line with ancient scriptures like the Bible. Most believers these days make up their own rules and claim God's support. Why? I have not heard him say anything and the ancient scriptures are quite clear that killing is fine to use against non-beleivers, disobedient children, those who eat shellfish, etc. I suspect God will continue to remain silent on the matter.

You have good points.

People are representatives of God if they know the written religion well enough. That's why they act in God's stead. But, people can be evil. So, who knows if they are acting truthfully until we all get into the written words, and all become God's representatives.

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If you really want to challenge your beliefs ask yourself if ISIS could be right. No one knows the mind of God, perhaps he fully supports the acts of DASCH. They think so and who am I to disagree? They are much more in line with ancient scriptures like the Bible. Most believers these days make up their own rules and claim God's support. Why? I have not heard him say anything and the ancient scriptures are quite clear that killing is fine to use against non-beleivers, disobedient children, those who eat shellfish, etc. I suspect God will continue to remain silent on the matter.

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Quote from: RodeoX on May 13, 2015, 11:59:14 AM

What someone in Oman told me. "We pray for the Jihadists, that one day they will convert to Islam."

They are not muslims just mis-guiding the other`s and make them to think bad for muslims and wants to be against the muslims.

But maybe your opinion is wrong. Just look at all the directives to do violence listed right in the Quran - http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm. And this is only the start. Get out all the sayings of the prophets and you will find more.

To be fair, Islam speaks of peace as well. But most of the peace is between Muslims. When it comes to Muslims and others, it is a mixed bag.

Because of this, maybe the Muslims that are violent are the real Muslims. The rest of them are either "baby" Muslims (like the Sunnis), or not Muslim at all (like some of the Sunnis who think they are Muslim but don't know what they are talking about).

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Quote from: RodeoX on May 13, 2015, 11:59:14 AM

What someone in Oman told me. "We pray for the Jihadists, that one day they will convert to Islam."

They are not muslims just mis-guiding the other`s and make them to think bad for muslims and wants to be against the muslims.

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Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 19, 2015, 07:38:03 AM

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Like I said many times, they spread disinformation and also that verses are either mistranslated(possible mistranslation(low chance) or out of context verses. Some people quoted it here and I have replied what it is. Almost all of them were out of context verses and also it is for defense not for killing innocents.

Of course, Muslims rubber band the definition of "defense" to include just about anything they want to do, don't they?

All Palestinian bombings of innocent people are of course "Defense".

USA supports Israel, so it is the "Great Satan", so bombing USA is also good "Defense."

I am not saying Zakir makes these rationalizations but they are very commonly done in the Islamic world.

I understand what you are saying but there are rules for starting a war which obviously those terrorists aren't following and furthermore, they aren't following most rules at all.

Clearly Islam embraces diversity.

Those who think Islam is peaceful.
Those who think Islam is peaceful but let's kill all the Jews (somehow it's self defense of course).
Those who think Islam is peaceful but let's kill all the Jews and destroy the Great Satan.
Those who think Islam is not peaceful.
......

But Islam doesn't tell to kill all Jews.

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Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 19, 2015, 08:09:38 AM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 19, 2015, 07:38:03 AM

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Like I said many times, they spread disinformation and also that verses are either mistranslated(possible mistranslation(low chance) or out of context verses. Some people quoted it here and I have replied what it is. Almost all of them were out of context verses and also it is for defense not for killing innocents.

Of course, Muslims rubber band the definition of "defense" to include just about anything they want to do, don't they?

All Palestinian bombings of innocent people are of course "Defense".

USA supports Israel, so it is the "Great Satan", so bombing USA is also good "Defense."

I am not saying Zakir makes these rationalizations but they are very commonly done in the Islamic world.

I understand what you are saying but there are rules for starting a war which obviously those terrorists aren't following and furthermore, they aren't following most rules at all.

Clearly Islam embraces diversity.

Those who think Islam is peaceful.
Those who think Islam is peaceful but let's kill all the Jews (somehow it's self defense of course).
Those who think Islam is peaceful but let's kill all the Jews and destroy the Great Satan.
Those who think Islam is not peaceful.
......

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Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 19, 2015, 12:17:45 PM

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Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 19, 2015, 08:09:38 AM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 19, 2015, 07:38:03 AM

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Like I said many times, they spread disinformation and also that verses are either mistranslated(possible mistranslation(low chance) or out of context verses. Some people quoted it here and I have replied what it is. Almost all of them were out of context verses and also it is for defense not for killing innocents.

Of course, Muslims rubber band the definition of "defense" to include just about anything they want to do, don't they?

All Palestinian bombings of innocent people are of course "Defense".

USA supports Israel, so it is the "Great Satan", so bombing USA is also good "Defense."

I am not saying Zakir makes these rationalizations but they are very commonly done in the Islamic world.

I understand what you are saying but there are rules for starting a war which obviously those terrorists aren't following and furthermore, they aren't following most rules at all.

This is just about the silliest thing I ever heard.

The only rules for starting war are to make sure you are going to win, or at least be able to escape if you lose.

Guerilla warfare is one of the most successful no-rules forms of warfare. ISIS is doing it.

They have all kinds of rules for themselves... like strike briefly in surprise, and then run away after doing all kinds of damage, before the enemy has a chance to regroup and fight back.

It works both ways - http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-kills-islamic-state-leader-in-syria-raid/2015/05/16/31280b26-fbca-11e4-a13c-193b1241d51a_story.html and http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/05/17/lawmakers-praise-risky-us-raid-that-killed-isis-leader-aby-sayyaf/ and http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/05/16/us-conducts-raid-on-isis-in-syria-kills-top-official/.

That is the silliest thing you heard is because you don't know Islamic teachings and rules and just rely on medias.

Now it's you who is essentially calling ISIS Muslims.

Did I? I responded to your first line.

Well, I'm not into making war. But I am not Muslim, either. If I were a warrior and did it by Muslim laws, it would be by accident. So who are you talking about that is supposed to follow Muslim war directives?

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Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 19, 2015, 08:09:38 AM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 19, 2015, 07:38:03 AM

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Like I said many times, they spread disinformation and also that verses are either mistranslated(possible mistranslation(low chance) or out of context verses. Some people quoted it here and I have replied what it is. Almost all of them were out of context verses and also it is for defense not for killing innocents.

Of course, Muslims rubber band the definition of "defense" to include just about anything they want to do, don't they?

All Palestinian bombings of innocent people are of course "Defense".

USA supports Israel, so it is the "Great Satan", so bombing USA is also good "Defense."

I am not saying Zakir makes these rationalizations but they are very commonly done in the Islamic world.

I understand what you are saying but there are rules for starting a war which obviously those terrorists aren't following and furthermore, they aren't following most rules at all.

This is just about the silliest thing I ever heard.

The only rules for starting war are to make sure you are going to win, or at least be able to escape if you lose.

Guerilla warfare is one of the most successful no-rules forms of warfare. ISIS is doing it.

They have all kinds of rules for themselves... like strike briefly in surprise, and then run away after doing all kinds of damage, before the enemy has a chance to regroup and fight back.

It works both ways - http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-kills-islamic-state-leader-in-syria-raid/2015/05/16/31280b26-fbca-11e4-a13c-193b1241d51a_story.html and http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/05/17/lawmakers-praise-risky-us-raid-that-killed-isis-leader-aby-sayyaf/ and http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/05/16/us-conducts-raid-on-isis-in-syria-kills-top-official/.

That is the silliest thing you heard is because you don't know Islamic teachings and rules and just rely on medias.

Now it's you who is essentially calling ISIS Muslims.

Did I? I responded to your first line.

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Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 19, 2015, 12:14:14 PM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 19, 2015, 08:09:38 AM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 19, 2015, 07:38:03 AM

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Like I said many times, they spread disinformation and also that verses are either mistranslated(possible mistranslation(low chance) or out of context verses. Some people quoted it here and I have replied what it is. Almost all of them were out of context verses and also it is for defense not for killing innocents.

Of course, Muslims rubber band the definition of "defense" to include just about anything they want to do, don't they?

All Palestinian bombings of innocent people are of course "Defense".

USA supports Israel, so it is the "Great Satan", so bombing USA is also good "Defense."

I am not saying Zakir makes these rationalizations but they are very commonly done in the Islamic world.

I understand what you are saying but there are rules for starting a war which obviously those terrorists aren't following and furthermore, they aren't following most rules at all.

This is just about the silliest thing I ever heard.

The only rules for starting war are to make sure you are going to win, or at least be able to escape if you lose.

Guerilla warfare is one of the most successful no-rules forms of warfare. ISIS is doing it.

They have all kinds of rules for themselves... like strike briefly in surprise, and then run away after doing all kinds of damage, before the enemy has a chance to regroup and fight back.

It works both ways - http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-kills-islamic-state-leader-in-syria-raid/2015/05/16/31280b26-fbca-11e4-a13c-193b1241d51a_story.html and http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/05/17/lawmakers-praise-risky-us-raid-that-killed-isis-leader-aby-sayyaf/ and http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/05/16/us-conducts-raid-on-isis-in-syria-kills-top-official/.

That is the silliest thing you heard is because you don't know Islamic teachings and rules and just rely on medias.

Now it's you who is essentially calling ISIS Muslims.

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Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 19, 2015, 08:09:38 AM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 19, 2015, 07:38:03 AM

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Like I said many times, they spread disinformation and also that verses are either mistranslated(possible mistranslation(low chance) or out of context verses. Some people quoted it here and I have replied what it is. Almost all of them were out of context verses and also it is for defense not for killing innocents.

Of course, Muslims rubber band the definition of "defense" to include just about anything they want to do, don't they?

All Palestinian bombings of innocent people are of course "Defense".

USA supports Israel, so it is the "Great Satan", so bombing USA is also good "Defense."

I am not saying Zakir makes these rationalizations but they are very commonly done in the Islamic world.

I understand what you are saying but there are rules for starting a war which obviously those terrorists aren't following and furthermore, they aren't following most rules at all.

This is just about the silliest thing I ever heard.

The only rules for starting war are to make sure you are going to win, or at least be able to escape if you lose.

Guerilla warfare is one of the most successful no-rules forms of warfare. ISIS is doing it.

They have all kinds of rules for themselves... like strike briefly in surprise, and then run away after doing all kinds of damage, before the enemy has a chance to regroup and fight back.

It works both ways - http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-kills-islamic-state-leader-in-syria-raid/2015/05/16/31280b26-fbca-11e4-a13c-193b1241d51a_story.html and http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/05/17/lawmakers-praise-risky-us-raid-that-killed-isis-leader-aby-sayyaf/ and http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/05/16/us-conducts-raid-on-isis-in-syria-kills-top-official/.

That is the silliest thing you heard is because you don't know Islamic teachings and rules and just rely on medias.

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Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 19, 2015, 08:09:38 AM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 19, 2015, 07:38:03 AM

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Like I said many times, they spread disinformation and also that verses are either mistranslated(possible mistranslation(low chance) or out of context verses. Some people quoted it here and I have replied what it is. Almost all of them were out of context verses and also it is for defense not for killing innocents.

Of course, Muslims rubber band the definition of "defense" to include just about anything they want to do, don't they?

All Palestinian bombings of innocent people are of course "Defense".

USA supports Israel, so it is the "Great Satan", so bombing USA is also good "Defense."

I am not saying Zakir makes these rationalizations but they are very commonly done in the Islamic world.

I understand what you are saying but there are rules for starting a war which obviously those terrorists aren't following and furthermore, they aren't following most rules at all.

This is just about the silliest thing I ever heard.

The only rules for starting war are to make sure you are going to win, or at least be able to escape if you lose.

Guerilla warfare is one of the most successful no-rules forms of warfare. ISIS is doing it.

They have all kinds of rules for themselves... like strike briefly in surprise, and then run away after doing all kinds of damage, before the enemy has a chance to regroup and fight back.

It works both ways - http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-kills-islamic-state-leader-in-syria-raid/2015/05/16/31280b26-fbca-11e4-a13c-193b1241d51a_story.html and http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/05/17/lawmakers-praise-risky-us-raid-that-killed-isis-leader-aby-sayyaf/ and http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/05/16/us-conducts-raid-on-isis-in-syria-kills-top-official/.

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Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 19, 2015, 07:38:03 AM

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Like I said many times, they spread disinformation and also that verses are either mistranslated(possible mistranslation(low chance) or out of context verses. Some people quoted it here and I have replied what it is. Almost all of them were out of context verses and also it is for defense not for killing innocents.

Of course, Muslims rubber band the definition of "defense" to include just about anything they want to do, don't they?

All Palestinian bombings of innocent people are of course "Defense".

USA supports Israel, so it is the "Great Satan", so bombing USA is also good "Defense."

I am not saying Zakir makes these rationalizations but they are very commonly done in the Islamic world.

I understand what you are saying but there are rules for starting a war which obviously those terrorists aren't following and furthermore, they aren't following most rules at all.

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Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 19, 2015, 07:38:03 AM

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Like I said many times, they spread disinformation and also that verses are either mistranslated(possible mistranslation(low chance) or out of context verses. Some people quoted it here and I have replied what it is. Almost all of them were out of context verses and also it is for defense not for killing innocents.

Of course, Muslims rubber band the definition of "defense" to include just about anything they want to do, don't they?

All Palestinian bombings of innocent people are of course "Defense".

USA supports Israel, so it is the "Great Satan", so bombing USA is also good "Defense."

I am not saying Zakir makes these rationalizations but they are very commonly done in the Islamic world.

Muhammed Zakir

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I prefer Zakir over Muhammed when mentioning me!

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Sunnis are a branch of Islam that really isn't Islam at all. They simply hold to the name of Islam, recognize Muhammad, and follow a few of the Islamic rules loosely. The Sunni religion is about as free as they come. The do and worship whatever they think is spiritual.

True Islam is found in the Muslims who terrorize. That's why they do it. They are being religiously true to Islam. They are the pure Islamites. All this talk about Islam being a peaceful religion is only being done by people ignorant of Islam (even though they might be Muslims), or by liars. In a few cases Islam peace is being talked about by wishful thinkers.

The funny thing here is if a "muslim" would be peaceful, will you think the contrary or not? I hope you understand what I wanted to say.

Of course there are peaceful Muslims. It is simply that they are not very much Muslim. They are quite ignorant of the religion that they claim to be part of. If they are strong Muslims according to the true Islam, then they are not peaceful to non-Muslims (except when they are lying to the non-Muslims), while they are peaceful to other Muslims.

It is like Christians who say they are Christians and ARE Christians. But they don't go to church except on Christmas and Easter. They almost NEVER read any of the Bible. And they hang out at the bars and nightclubs and whore houses, and curse and drink and swear. But they are still Christians.

Real Christians would never do any of these wrong things.

I told you guys. BADecker always does this. He knows nothing, nothing about Islam. He just want to post big passages of lies to spread hatred and then conclude, "come to Christianity, the ultimate religion". I have no problem with Christians and BADecker is free to spread the religion he believe but he is contradicting his belief because Bible says not to lie and spread hatred/violence while spreading it. I am saying again, feel free to spread Christianity but don't tell lies.

Can't seem to find any Christian terrorists. Huh

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism

Even in ISIS there are non-Muslims. The terrorists don't follow Islam and claim they are followers. Even non-Muslims in ISIS who knows nothing or very less about Islam claims they are Muslims or better to say, medias tell they are Muslims. Because of this, you shouldn't spread lies about Islam.

Lists of violence directives for Muslims, right out of the Quran: http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm.

Like I said many times, they spread disinformation and also that verses are either mistranslated(possible mistranslation(low chance) or out of context verses. Some people quoted it here and I have replied what it is. Almost all of them were out of context verses and also it is for defense not for killing innocents.

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Quote from: BADecker on May 19, 2015, 07:00:05 AM

Sunnis are a branch of Islam that really isn't Islam at all. They simply hold to the name of Islam, recognize Muhammad, and follow a few of the Islamic rules loosely. The Sunni religion is about as free as they come. The do and worship whatever they think is spiritual.

True Islam is found in the Muslims who terrorize. That's why they do it. They are being religiously true to Islam. They are the pure Islamites. All this talk about Islam being a peaceful religion is only being done by people ignorant of Islam (even though they might be Muslims), or by liars. In a few cases Islam peace is being talked about by wishful thinkers.

The funny thing here is if a "muslim" would be peaceful, will you think the contrary or not? I hope you understand what I wanted to say.

Of course there are peaceful Muslims. It is simply that they are not very much Muslim. They are quite ignorant of the religion that they claim to be part of. If they are strong Muslims according to the true Islam, then they are not peaceful to non-Muslims (except when they are lying to the non-Muslims), while they are peaceful to other Muslims.

It is like Christians who say they are Christians and ARE Christians. But they don't go to church except on Christmas and Easter. They almost NEVER read any of the Bible. And they hang out at the bars and nightclubs and whore houses, and curse and drink and swear. But they are still Christians.

Real Christians would never do any of these wrong things.

I told you guys. BADecker always does this. He knows nothing, nothing about Islam. He just want to post big passages of lies to spread hatred and then conclude, "come to Christianity, the ultimate religion". I have no problem with Christians and BADecker is free to spread the religion he believe but he is contradicting his belief because Bible says not to lie and spread hatred/violence while spreading it. I am saying again, feel free to spread Christianity but don't tell lies.

Can't seem to find any Christian terrorists. Huh

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism

Even in ISIS there are non-Muslims. The terrorists don't follow Islam and claim they are followers. Even non-Muslims in ISIS who knows nothing or very less about Islam claims they are Muslims or better to say, medias tell they are Muslims. Because of this, you shouldn't spread lies about Islam.

Lists of violence directives for Muslims, right out of the Quran: http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm.

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Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 19, 2015, 01:31:48 AM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 19, 2015, 01:31:48 AM

Sunnis are a branch of Islam that really isn't Islam at all. They simply hold to the name of Islam, recognize Muhammad, and follow a few of the Islamic rules loosely. The Sunni religion is about as free as they come. The do and worship whatever they think is spiritual.

True Islam is found in the Muslims who terrorize. That's why they do it. They are being religiously true to Islam. They are the pure Islamites. All this talk about Islam being a peaceful religion is only being done by people ignorant of Islam (even though they might be Muslims), or by liars. In a few cases Islam peace is being talked about by wishful thinkers.

The funny thing here is if a "muslim" would be peaceful, will you think the contrary or not? I hope you understand what I wanted to say.

Of course there are peaceful Muslims. It is simply that they are not very much Muslim. They are quite ignorant of the religion that they claim to be part of. If they are strong Muslims according to the true Islam, then they are not peaceful to non-Muslims (except when they are lying to the non-Muslims), while they are peaceful to other Muslims.

It is like Christians who say they are Christians and ARE Christians. But they don't go to church except on Christmas and Easter. They almost NEVER read any of the Bible. And they hang out at the bars and nightclubs and whore houses, and curse and drink and swear. But they are still Christians.

Real Christians would never do any of these wrong things.

I told you guys. BADecker always does this. He knows nothing, nothing about Islam. He just want to post big passages of lies to spread hatred and then conclude, "come to Christianity, the ultimate religion". I have no problem with Christians and BADecker is free to spread the religion he believe but he is contradicting his belief because Bible says not to lie and spread hatred/violence while spreading it. I am saying again, feel free to spread Christianity but don't tell lies.

Can't seem to find any Christian terrorists. Huh

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism

Even in ISIS there are non-Muslims. The terrorists don't follow Islam and claim they are followers. Even non-Muslims in ISIS who knows nothing or very less about Islam claims they are Muslims or better to say, medias tell they are Muslims. Because of this, you shouldn't spread lies about Islam.

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