Who are THEY? Are they Muslim? - page 4.

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Quote from: stromma44 on May 15, 2015, 03:04:57 AM

Quote from: erikalui on May 14, 2015, 03:19:18 PM

Which religion teaches you to kill other humans who belong to your own religion and to kill children who don't even know the meaning of the word religion?

It's disgusting when people blame a religion for a criminal offense and start indirectly defending these criminals.

Correct. These are mentally retarded people . Humanity comes over any religion whether it is hindu, muslims, christians etc. And no religion teaches to kill other humans and how can one kill the innocent children who were just on journey of life to see how beautiful it is.

Yes they were muslims and no doubt about that. Their religion itself teaches them to do so they are given the special training from their own religion and they brainwashed their mentality towards the society I mean how can one give a training to kill some innocent children and people. Ridiculous.

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Quote from: edward222 on May 15, 2015, 03:57:33 AM

Quote from: Falconer on May 14, 2015, 09:16:36 AM

yeah, animals just kill their preys as a food for them. Only humans who can kill the others just because of racists, religions, or nations.

Do you hate humans?

i think my words don't mean i hate humans
how can i hate my family, my friends, and myself lol
at this rate i just said that humans can, not must

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Quote from: Falconer on May 14, 2015, 09:16:36 AM

yeah, animals just kill their preys as a food for them. Only humans who can kill the others just because of racists, religions, or nations.

Do you hate humans?

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Quote from: erikalui on May 14, 2015, 03:19:18 PM

Which religion teaches you to kill other humans who belong to your own religion and to kill children who don't even know the meaning of the word religion?

It's disgusting when people blame a religion for a criminal offense and start indirectly defending these criminals.

Correct. These are mentally retarded people . Humanity comes over any religion whether it is hindu, muslims, christians etc. And no religion teaches to kill other humans and how can one kill the innocent children who were just on journey of life to see how beautiful it is.

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Quote from: panju1 on May 14, 2015, 11:00:37 PM

Quote from: BADecker on May 14, 2015, 08:56:54 PM

If they are Muslims, even though they may be deluded and incorrect about their religion, they have strong faith and a lot of guts, especially those who give up their lives in suicide bombing.

You don't need to be brave to give up your life in a suicide bombing, you just have to be dumb enough to be brainwashed.

Exactly. "Brave" people are not the ones who kill innocent people in suicide bombings. The real brave guys are those who protect innocent people from such barbarous attacks. For some people, guys like Dzhokhar Tsarnaev and Tamerlan Tsarnaev might be heroes. But not for me. I believe that guys like Yanis Kanidis and Yevgeny Rodionov are real heroes.

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Quote from: irfan_pak10 on May 13, 2015, 12:02:02 PM

Quote from: RodeoX on May 13, 2015, 11:59:14 AM

What someone in Oman told me. "We pray for the Jihadists, that one day they will convert to Islam."

They are not Jihadist, they are Not Muslim, They are Not Human. Can you Imagine that A man can Kill another Person, On the Basis of His religion?

I don't know. They are perhaps more like us than we are comfortable thinking. Many grow up in poverty and corruption. Maybe the only legitimate power they ever knew was the local imam? Those kids are ripe for recruitment by groups who puff them up with delusions of adventure, riches, and respect. That is a powerful message for the disenfranchised. Of course by the time they figure out that they are only killing other Muslims over money, land, oil, and power; its too late. I feel sorry for many of them.
But make no mistake, the game is on. They would kill me and if I had to I would drop the hammer and flip their switch just as quick.

P.S. Abu Alaa al-Afari may have just been killed in an airstrike.

OP is doing the no true scotsman fallacy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

Plus, the loophole for killing everyone they want is in the verse he quoted:

Quote from: irfan_pak10 on May 13, 2015, 11:50:28 AM

First let me tell here an Ayat from Quran:

If any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole humanity: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the whole humanity.

Muslims just need to believe little girls going to school is spreading mischief in the land, whatever that means.

you and other muslim haters totally do not understand the meaning of the verse. unless it be means, that is.. remember the Quraan is in Arabic. like you i was perplexed with this quote. so i called a friend, he speaks arabic fluently. i asked him about this, he said in arabic it means that is, but in english there is mistranslation

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Quote from: BADecker on May 14, 2015, 08:56:54 PM

If they are Muslims, even though they may be deluded and incorrect about their religion, they have strong faith and a lot of guts, especially those who give up their lives in suicide bombing.

You don't need to be brave to give up your life in a suicide bombing, you just have to be dumb enough to be brainwashed.

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Quote from: Spendulus on May 14, 2015, 01:24:54 PM

One way to understand it would be to look at actual words of teachings of radical Islamic Mosques. If they say to do things like this, then the bad guys are human beings following orders of radical Muslim clerics. That makes them human, and Muslim.

Pretty simple.

Exactly. Every now and then I have seen posts arguing that these people are not Muslims and Islam should not be blamed for their actions. But they conveniently ignore the fact that most of these people are brainwashed in mosques and some of the Islamic charities divert their funds for them. Whenever someone has the balls to counter them, he or she is accused of Islamophobia.

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Probably, white people are usually deranged rather than terrorists.

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If they are Muslims, even though they may be deluded and incorrect about their religion, they have strong faith and a lot of guts, especially those who give up their lives in suicide bombing.

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Which religion teaches you to kill other humans who belong to your own religion and to kill children who don't even know the meaning of the word religion?

It's disgusting when people blame a religion for a criminal offense and start indirectly defending these criminals.

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Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 13, 2015, 10:22:33 PM

Here, spreading mischief means making wars, killing people and spreading hatread and violence etc... It perfectly fits with what ISIS and similar groups are doing. I think they haven't see this! Roll Eyes

it also includes leaving their religion as i have pointed out. the terrorists killed these people because they consider them apostates and heretics.

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Quote from: Xenoph0bia on May 14, 2015, 01:12:19 PM

Don't know who were they but definetely not the human beings. Like I don't understand how can people of pakistan live in such a threat. I am thankful that I live in such a country that I know that tommorrow I will wake up and would be breathing. Feeling sorry for the family of people who died in this attack.

One way to understand it would be to look at actual words of teachings of radical Islamic Mosques. If they say to do things like this, then the bad guys are human beings following orders of radical Muslim clerics. That makes them human, and Muslim.

Pretty simple.

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Don't know who were they but definetely not the human beings. Like I don't understand how can people of pakistan live in such a threat. I am thankful that I live in such a country that I know that tommorrow I will wake up and would be breathing. Feeling sorry for the family of people who died in this attack.

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Quote from: Silly Money on May 14, 2015, 07:34:46 AM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 13, 2015, 10:22:33 PM

Quote from: 311 on May 13, 2015, 03:24:46 PM

Quote from: irfan_pak10 on May 13, 2015, 11:50:28 AM

First let me tell here an Ayat from Quran:

If any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole humanity: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the whole humanity.

What in the actual fuck is the definition of 'spreading mischief'. People can interpret that in any way they wish. The attacks were Sunni against shia, right? Maybe the sunni's think that shia's are spreading mischief therefore they're fair game to be killed. I know not all muslims feel this way but killing members of your own religion only with slightly different views just shows you how ridiculous this is (though of course all religions are equally ridiculous any way).

Here, spreading mischief means making wars, killing people and spreading hatread and violence etc... It perfectly fits with what ISIS and similar groups are doing. I think they haven't see this! Roll Eyes

Where is here? Like 311 said that all depends on a persons interpretation and that's yours. Like most people who follow religion they interpret teachings or rules in their own way or even choose to blindly ignore other parts.

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 14, 2015, 12:51:39 AM

Quote from: edward222 on May 14, 2015, 12:19:16 AM

I dont know if they're muslims or not,
but one thing for sure, theyre humans,
and religion is not to be blame for it.

They ain't humans.

Of course they're humans. Backwards with perverted ideology maybe, but they're still humans.

yeah, animals just kill their preys as a food for them. Only humans who can kill the others just because of racists, religions, or nations.

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Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 14, 2015, 12:51:39 AM

Quote from: edward222 on May 14, 2015, 12:19:16 AM

I dont know if they're muslims or not,
but one thing for sure, theyre humans,
and religion is not to be blame for it.

They ain't humans.

They do resemble zombies and rather act like them, come to think of it.

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Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 13, 2015, 10:22:33 PM

Quote from: 311 on May 13, 2015, 03:24:46 PM

Quote from: irfan_pak10 on May 13, 2015, 11:50:28 AM

First let me tell here an Ayat from Quran:

If any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole humanity: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the whole humanity.

What in the actual fuck is the definition of 'spreading mischief'. People can interpret that in any way they wish. The attacks were Sunni against shia, right? Maybe the sunni's think that shia's are spreading mischief therefore they're fair game to be killed. I know not all muslims feel this way but killing members of your own religion only with slightly different views just shows you how ridiculous this is (though of course all religions are equally ridiculous any way).

Here, spreading mischief means making wars, killing people and spreading hatread and violence etc... It perfectly fits with what ISIS and similar groups are doing. I think they haven't see this! Roll Eyes

Where is here? Like 311 said that all depends on a persons interpretation and that's yours. Like most people who follow religion they interpret teachings or rules in their own way or even choose to blindly ignore other parts.

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 14, 2015, 12:51:39 AM

Quote from: edward222 on May 14, 2015, 12:19:16 AM

I dont know if they're muslims or not,
but one thing for sure, theyre humans,
and religion is not to be blame for it.

They ain't humans.

Of course they're humans. Backwards with perverted ideology maybe, but they're still humans.

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Quote from: edward222 on May 14, 2015, 12:19:16 AM

I dont know if they're muslims or not,
but one thing for sure, theyre humans,
and religion is not to be blame for it.

They ain't humans.

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Quote from: irfan_pak10 on May 13, 2015, 11:50:28 AM

First let me tell here an Ayat from Quran:

If any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole humanity: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the whole humanity.
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Today Death Toll In Karachi Bus Shooting Rises To 44 death and 13 injured

So who are they are these Muslim?

I dont know if they're muslims or not,
but one thing for sure, theyre humans,
and religion is not to be blame for it.

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Quote from: 311 on May 13, 2015, 03:24:46 PM

Quote from: irfan_pak10 on May 13, 2015, 11:50:28 AM

First let me tell here an Ayat from Quran:

If any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole humanity: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the whole humanity.

What in the actual fuck is the definition of 'spreading mischief'. People can interpret that in any way they wish. The attacks were Sunni against shia, right? Maybe the sunni's think that shia's are spreading mischief therefore they're fair game to be killed. I know not all muslims feel this way but killing members of your own religion only with slightly different views just shows you how ridiculous this is (though of course all religions are equally ridiculous any way).

Here, spreading mischief means making wars, killing people and spreading hatread and violence etc... It perfectly fits with what ISIS and similar groups are doing. I think they haven't see this! Roll Eyes

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