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Quote from: Mia Chloe on July 09, 2023, 02:30:32 PM

When someone has a particular wallet which he spends Bitcoins from can he be considered a Bitcoin investor?

Of course. Anyone who holds their Bitcoin on a wallet is an investor. No matter how much the Bitcoin and how long he keeps it, we can call him an investor. But if he uses Bitcoin for trading, then we call him as a trader.

Quote from: Mia Chloe on July 09, 2023, 02:30:32 PM

Or does the term investor refer only to those who hodl Bitcoin?

Hold Bitcoin and keep the Bitcoin on the wallet are the same, no difference.
The different may be about the goal, investor just hold the Bitcoin on wallet but a trader uses the Bitcoin for trading constantly.

IMO

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In business there four major types, Manufacturer, Wholesalers, Retailer and Customer. A business without customer is not a good business. Upon all these different categories, they are all involved in the business process and that is how bitcoin investors are.

There are different categories of investors in bitcoin. I had seen in the forum different names of bitcoin investors according to their acquisition of bitcoin in the system but I have forgotten the particular thread.

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For someone to spend bitcoin, he must at one point hold bitcoin before becoming a spender or he should have bought bitcoin, in either case, he is an investor at one point or another.

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For me personally, Bitcoin investors are individuals who set aside their money and save it in the form of Bitcoin, hoping to generate additional profits when exchanged for FIAT currency in the future. It is not significantly different from buying stocks as an investment or buying Bitcoin as an investment. Every person surely stores their wealth in the form of Bitcoin if they become Bitcoin investors.

Subsequently, they sell Bitcoin when it can yield profits or, alternatively, sell Bitcoin due to emergency financial needs.

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Bitcoin is both an investment currency and a means of payment. If you patiently keep Bitcoin in your wallet for a long time, there may be an opportunity to make a profit when its price increases. However, the bitcoin price can fluctuate significantly, and returns are not guaranteed. As for the exact method of payment, Bitcoin was designed as a digital means of payment, but in reality, it is now considered more of a speculative asset than a means of payment.

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Quote from: Mia Chloe on July 09, 2023, 02:30:32 PM

When someone has a particular wallet which he spends Bitcoins from can he be considered a Bitcoin investor?
Or does the term investor refer only to those who hodl Bitcoin?

Both of these people are bitcoin investors imo. It doesn't necessarily mean that you should invest big amounts to become a bitcoin investor. You can invest $5 in bitcoin and still be an investor. Obviously you are not going to make much profits with that $5 worth of bitcoins but you are still an investor no matter what others say.

Here is another example:

You can own 1 AAPL share and still be an investor in AAPL. You can vote at the annual shareholders' meeting. The price of an AAPL share is around $200 nowadays.

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Quote from: Mia Chloe on July 09, 2023, 02:30:32 PM

When someone has a particular wallet which he spends Bitcoins from can he be considered a Bitcoin investor?
Or does the term investor refer only to those who hodl Bitcoin?

Some one who owns a wallet they spend bitcoin from, how are they getting the bitcoin they are spending in the first place? As long as they have a reliable source through which the earn the bitcoin they are spending, there is also the possibility that they have some bitcoin kept aside for future purposes, so yes, I could consider them a bitcoin investor too..

But then, on a normal days, those are holding bitcoin, whether bought or earned through any means, are those who are the true bitcoin investors, this is because, being an investor of a company means you either have a share in the company or you are holding an asset linked to the company for future profit and dividend in profit sharing of the company.

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Quote from: Mia Chloe on July 09, 2023, 02:30:32 PM

When someone has a particular wallet which he spends Bitcoins from can he be considered a Bitcoin investor?
Or does the term investor refer only to those who hodl Bitcoin?

No. If you use mainly BTC for transactions (which is actually a good thing as adapting to web3 currency), you're not an investor but only a consumer. Investing is accumulating an asset and letting it sit in a place for a long time until it yields profits or higher prices. You can say for a slang term that a "hodler" is equivalent to an investor. Well, you can be a short-term investor or a long term where it could take you 5 to 10 years to wait.

Yes, you have to wait. Because in investing you don't touch it or use it on your spending. But you buy it on the smallest amount and sell it for the highest possible amount. Most people mess up on the waiting part.

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Even though we have bitcoin without any investment, I don't think it has been said by investors, because investors are people who invest and they often experience losses and get profits, so for people who just store bitcoin without touching and they just wait when the price increases it is not fully said to be investors, on average their investors dare to take every risk even though they know the loss they will feel but they Always looking for ways to be able to make a profit.

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Strictly speaking, somebody who is using Bitcoin as a currency is probably not a Bitcoin investor. I think profit is something that you can't take away from any investment. So an investor refers to somebody who spends money with the goal of making a profit later on. Therefore one who is into Bitcoin but isn't thinking of making money or having gains out of it is not an investor. He could simply be a Bitcoin believer or a Bitcoin supporter but he's not an investor.

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Quote from: Mia Chloe on July 09, 2023, 02:30:32 PM

When someone has a particular wallet which he spends Bitcoins from can he be considered a Bitcoin investor?
Or does the term investor refer only to those who hodl Bitcoin?

Yeah I’m not sure that you’re really an “investor” if you’re not holding the assets for a period of time, or putting them towards something that is going to help them grow that bitcoin “investment” that they made. Someone who just buys bitcoin and then uses it to pay for items goods or services, in my opinion, aren’t really investing, but are “supporting” it.

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I see all talking the same who put bitcoin in their wallet then he will be an investor regardless of long or short almost all define the same.
Even if you have 0.001BTC alone it is considered an investor no matter how many bitcoins are held in it will be considered the same as an investor.

Not only referring to bitcoin, there are many other types of assets there including as an asset owner then he is an investor, so not only in bitcoin.

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Quote from: Mia Chloe on July 09, 2023, 02:30:32 PM

When someone has a particular wallet which he spends Bitcoins from can he be considered a Bitcoin investor?
Or does the term investor refer only to those who hodl Bitcoin?

To make it more better and simpler for you to enjoy not mixing the whole funds together, you will need to have two wallets, one will be the wallet which you will not spend from it but have your bitcoin over a long time in it, the other will be a wallet that will be holding little percentage of what you're having, whereby you can exchange from the wallet or send bitcoin to others from it, you also have to take an important notice that if you're to use a wallet that will have your long term investment with, it must be a decentralized wallet and a good example are the ones of cold storage, the only differences of everyone investing with bitcoin is their duration of investment and the type of wallet they are holding their coin through from the blockchain.

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Is there any difference if someone said you're a Bitcoin investor or not a Bitcoin investor? what's the effect into your life?

Even though I active in this forum and I get paid in my subscription campaign, which mean I have Bitcoin, if someone want to say I'm not a Bitcoin investor, I don't care. It's not my job to let everyone know I'm a Bitcoin investor or debating I'm a Bitcoin investor, that's completely wasting time.

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Only the true believers of Bitcoin becomes the long term holders and these are the type of people that deserve to be called Bitcoin investors, not those that chicken out after some downside movement, I mean, some people can't even take their eye off their Bitcoin wallet, when some rumours are spreading online they will quickly go check their balance.

These type of buyers are not real investors, they are looking for quick gains and they don't understand that Bitcoin doesn't work that way, you must hold for a very long time to get the best return of investment out of Bitcoin.

Bitcoin stands out among other digital currencies because of this, other coins promise a certain percentage of returns as passive income but they end up killing themselves in a short term.

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There are short term investors and long term investors and every Bitcoin buyers are not really investors, some are traders who trade daily to make profit, investors are those that believe in the future value of Bitcoin, and short term investors are those that buy and hold for a short period of time to make profits but long term investors want to be a big part of Bitcoin, they even plan to have Bitcoin when they are retired and spending the rest of their lives enjoying life.

The door is open to every type of Bitcoin investors and I don't care which is which, but I do care about myself and that's why I choose to be a long-term Bitcoin investor.

Things are working as they should, Bitcoin was not created for holders only, we ned the spenders and traders too and that's what has been happening since day one, Bitcoin is already a success.

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Quote from: Mia Chloe on July 09, 2023, 02:30:32 PM

When someone has a particular wallet which he spends Bitcoins from can he be considered a Bitcoin investor?
Or does the term investor refer only to those who hodl Bitcoin?

You invested in Bitcoin? Congrats! You're a Bitcoin investor. There is not need in overcomplicating things. There are different types of investors, but those are just details.

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Quote from: Mia Chloe on July 09, 2023, 02:30:32 PM

When someone has a particular wallet which he spends Bitcoins from can he be considered a Bitcoin investor?
Or does the term investor refer only to those who hodl Bitcoin?

A bitcoin investor, in my opinion, is someone who purchases and retains bitcoin over an extended period of time with the intention of profiting from it. Therefore, whether for a short length of time or a long amount of time, any Bitcoin holder with the intention of benefitting should be regarded as a Bitcoin investor.

Some people just use one wallet, spending some of their bitcoin but never intending to spend it all. For instance, if a person possesses 4 bitcoins, they may opt to spend only 1, while holding onto the other 3 for the purpose of profiting from it.Due to its profit-oriented nature, I continue to view that person as Bitcoin investor too.

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Cryptocurrency investors might be ambiguous. Investors allocate capital in hopes of profit. This definition makes everybody who buys Bitcoin to make a profit an investor, whether they spend or store it.

Bitcoin investors believe Bitcoin will rise in value over time. Like buying and owning shares, this is customary. Spending Bitcoin might be considered active investing. It involves using Bitcoin as a medium of exchange, supporting the Bitcoin ecosystem and indirectly increasing its value and profitability.

Thus, Bitcoin investors include hodlers and spenders. Blockchain technology encourages cooperation, therefore this view embraces the numerous roles players might play in the Bitcoin ecosystem.

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Quote from: xSkylarx on July 09, 2023, 10:22:22 PM

If he earns profit from it, then he is an investor since anything that you put money on and expect a return on is already an investment, but if he just uses it like we use cash, receives it, and spends it, then he is a user of Bitcoin since he saw that Bitcoin is a good, anonymous, fast transaction, and probably this is the payment method that his merchant is asking for, which is why he is using it. It is not only holding Bitcoin; there are a lot of types of investors in Bitcoin: traders, staking, holders, and others who accept it as a payment method and hold it for a long time for profit.

Man sometimes I don't blame governments for trying to crack down, when all you guys seem to just love complicating things.

When you earn profit from something, it means you sold something for more than what you bought it for. That is called capital gains. It can be shares, stocks, coins, even a house.

It has nothing on its own to do with investment, investment is to put in effort or money in the hopes of getting profit. Hopes, not guarantee.

You can have losses and it's still an investment.

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