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April 16, 2015, 02:56:32 AM
#93
OK, don't bash me if you think this is stupid but.....

Did any of yous considered the fact that Edward Snowden is VJ?


I won't bash you and welcome all theories but I think it's stupid...

What Snowden revealed has a much bigger impact. Everyone is affected. His revelations influenced world politics and economics.
Silkroad, even though it made millions, was a small niche in the global drug trade. Only a very small percentage of the population have even heard of it. Even smaller the amount of people who used it.
Honestly, I don't think the NSA cares very much about SR. Maybe only if they want to give a new employee a training project.

Ross is a dreamer who thought he can change the world through his idea of a free market. And make lots of money, have fun. He has this careless and free attitude.
Snowden is a pure idealist. He wants to improve democracy. He is convinced something on a large scale goes terribly wrong. He knew he has to give up his freedom and economic benefits for his believes.

Fair enough.

However, what makes you think that SR was not a 3 letter agency project to begin with?
It has been said by Ross before that he is NOT the original creator of SR and apart from that we all know how the 3 letter agencies "work" right?

Thanks for your input though.

EDIT: You do know that most hackers smoke pot or do some kind of drugs right?
What makes you think Edward didn't?



Ross IS the original creator of Silkroad. He admitted that he has created the site. VJ helped him to make it more secure and changed the appearance and philosophy of the site. (Source: Ross' journal)

Looks like Silk Road got VJ's and Shabang's attention about that time, when the Gawker article came out. They both registered at SR June 27 2011.
On August 16, DPR was looking for unix admins. I am pretty sure VJ was one of the first to get that job. He closed security holes and he also started to influence DPR. (Journal: "chatted with VJ again today. Him coming onto the scene has re inspired me and given me direction on the SR project.")

He was controlling practically everything inside SR a few weeks after registering his account.

One question, that comes to my mind now, is that about the vulnerability in bitcoind, that VJ presented to Ross. I never heard of a vulnerability in bitcoind in 2011! Does anyone know more about that vuln? Does it have a CVE?

Could it be, that this bitcoind story was made up by VJ to gain control over the monetary system of SR?


You sure?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/08/14/an-interview-with-a-digital-drug-lord-the-silk-roads-dread-pirate-roberts-qa/

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AG: What inspired you to start the Silk Road? Not just philosophically, (that’s covered in lots of your posts on the Silk Road forums) but where did the idea come from?

DPR: I didn’t start the Silk Road, my predecessor did. From what I understand, it was an original idea to combine Bitcoin and Tor to create an anonymous market. Everything was in place, he just put the pieces together.

Apart from that,
WHY on earth would ANYONE keep a journal of their criminal activities, especially not coded in a form only they will understand?

EDIT: From the article
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Can you tell me anything about the original creator of the Silk Road? How did you meet? And did you acquire the Silk Road from him in a financial deal of some kind, or simply take over the project?

He was well compensated and happy with our arrangement. It was his idea to pass the torch in fact. We met through the site. I had discovered a big vulnerability in the way he had configured the main Bitcoin wallet that was being used to process all of the deposits and withdrawals on the site. At first he ignored me, but I persisted and gained his trust by helping him secure the wallet. From there we became close friends working on Silk Road together.

Wait, what?
Wasn't it VJ that found the vulnerabilities???
AGD
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April 16, 2015, 02:25:43 AM
#92
OK, don't bash me if you think this is stupid but.....

Did any of yous considered the fact that Edward Snowden is VJ?


I won't bash you and welcome all theories but I think it's stupid...

What Snowden revealed has a much bigger impact. Everyone is affected. His revelations influenced world politics and economics.
Silkroad, even though it made millions, was a small niche in the global drug trade. Only a very small percentage of the population have even heard of it. Even smaller the amount of people who used it.
Honestly, I don't think the NSA cares very much about SR. Maybe only if they want to give a new employee a training project.

Ross is a dreamer who thought he can change the world through his idea of a free market. And make lots of money, have fun. He has this careless and free attitude.
Snowden is a pure idealist. He wants to improve democracy. He is convinced something on a large scale goes terribly wrong. He knew he has to give up his freedom and economic benefits for his believes.

Fair enough.

However, what makes you think that SR was not a 3 letter agency project to begin with?
It has been said by Ross before that he is NOT the original creator of SR and apart from that we all know how the 3 letter agencies "work" right?

Thanks for your input though.

EDIT: You do know that most hackers smoke pot or do some kind of drugs right?
What makes you think Edward didn't?



Ross IS the original creator of Silkroad. He admitted that he has created the site. VJ helped him to make it more secure and changed the appearance and philosophy of the site. (Source: Ross' journal)

Looks like Silk Road got VJ's and Shabang's attention about that time, when the Gawker article came out. They both registered at SR June 27 2011.
On August 16, DPR was looking for unix admins. I am pretty sure VJ was one of the first to get that job. He closed security holes and he also started to influence DPR. (Journal: "chatted with VJ again today. Him coming onto the scene has re inspired me and given me direction on the SR project.")

He was controlling practically everything inside SR a few weeks after registering his account.

One question, that comes to my mind now, is that about the vulnerability in bitcoind, that VJ presented to Ross. I never heard of a vulnerability in bitcoind in 2011! Does anyone know more about that vuln? Does it have a CVE?

Could it be, that this bitcoind story was made up by VJ to gain control over the monetary system of SR?
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April 15, 2015, 05:21:02 PM
#91

Nice!

Can I ask what your profession/activity is?


Thanks. Sure, I work as a freelancer, currently marketing for a start-up. In the past, I did mostly internal communication projects within big companies.
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April 15, 2015, 02:35:39 PM
#90


Fair enough.

However, what makes you think that SR was not a 3 letter agency project to begin with?
It has been said by Ross before that he is NOT the original creator of SR and apart from that we all know how the 3 letter agencies "work" right?

Thanks for your input though.

EDIT: You do know that most hackers smoke pot or do some kind of drugs right?
What makes you think Edward didn't?


Sure, anything is possible. I just think it's so very likely that some character like Ross creates SR. Everything fits: young guy, open-minded to drugs but not too extreme, living in San Francisco, interested in teachings of Austrian school of economics, internet savvy, free and careless spirit.

Further, DPR was anti-government and he created things like the Book Club. The government would neither have these ideas nor like to promote them. This also is a big difference towards Snowden. Snowden is not anti-government. He just doesn't like that an agency is capable of acting without the control of senate,congress,etc.

I've watched many interviews with Snowden and in my opinion he seems pretty focused and analytical. I don't see a creative and hedonistic person but rather someone who acts very rational and organized.
I wouldn't be surprised if he prefers to endure a headache instead of taking an aspirin. Just my impression, though.


Nice!

Can I ask what your profession/activity is?
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April 15, 2015, 02:31:14 PM
#89


Fair enough.

However, what makes you think that SR was not a 3 letter agency project to begin with?
It has been said by Ross before that he is NOT the original creator of SR and apart from that we all know how the 3 letter agencies "work" right?

Thanks for your input though.

EDIT: You do know that most hackers smoke pot or do some kind of drugs right?
What makes you think Edward didn't?


Sure, anything is possible. I just think it's so very likely that some character like Ross creates SR. Everything fits: young guy, open-minded to drugs but not too extreme, living in San Francisco, interested in teachings of Austrian school of economics, internet savvy, free and careless spirit.

Further, DPR was anti-government and he created things like the Book Club. The government would neither have these ideas nor like to promote them. This also is a big difference towards Snowden. Snowden is not anti-government. He just doesn't like that an agency is capable of acting without the control of senate,congress,etc.

I've watched many interviews with Snowden and in my opinion he seems pretty focused and analytical. I don't see a creative and hedonistic person but rather someone who acts very rational and organized.
I wouldn't be surprised if he prefers to endure a headache instead of taking an aspirin. Just my impression, though.
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April 15, 2015, 12:57:07 PM
#88
WOW - somehow off topic....

The link you sent me of his profile...

Check the trust rating and you will find this guy: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/inaba-8198

F*ck me I have NEVER seen a trust rating THAT BAD!

hehe Butterfly labs

LOL

Makes sense....

I didn't get fucked by them so I didn't know  Cheesy
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April 15, 2015, 12:50:24 PM
#87
WOW - somehow off topic....

The link you sent me of his profile...

Check the trust rating and you will find this guy: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/inaba-8198

F*ck me I have NEVER seen a trust rating THAT BAD!

hehe Butterfly labs
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April 15, 2015, 12:48:28 PM
#86
WOW - somehow off topic....

The link you sent me of his profile...

Check the trust rating and you will find this guy: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/inaba-8198

F*ck me I have NEVER seen a trust rating THAT BAD!
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April 15, 2015, 12:40:30 PM
#85
What if Goat is Variety Jones!

Who is this "Goat" guy?

Yeah good question....

Who is he?

Sorry wasn't really into SR, but this story with VJ seems interesting.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/el-cabron-44233

A lot of his post have been edited & removed.  

Worth reading back though.

I like Goat honestly and he doesn't strike me as the type of dude who would have shit to do with this.

I'm sure VJ and Goat have nothing to do with each other besides the average Bitcoin shit. (Goat maybe mined some of VJ's coins maybe)

Peru?

I heard that Peruvian coke is almost as good as Colombian one....

Apart from that,
in a quick glimpse, he has high trust rating yet his latest good trust rating was from you,
apart from that, what does rating in red mean?
That's means it's a bad thing right?
He got one from Gregory Maxwell aswell that mentions child pornography - not cool, not cool at all.


Haven't gone through his posts yet but I will when I get some time.

That being said, I doubt he is VJ.
If he was he wouldn't be asking for people to "fabricate" things.
He would have done it himself.

None the less thanks for the link  Cheesy

EDIT: His last post was on: 03 June 2014...
Like I said I am not an SR person, so when did SR2 got busted?
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April 15, 2015, 12:21:34 PM
#84
What if Goat is Variety Jones!

Who is this "Goat" guy?

Yeah good question....

Who is he?

Sorry wasn't really into SR, but this story with VJ seems interesting.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/el-cabron-44233

A lot of his post have been edited & removed. 

Worth reading back though.

I like Goat honestly and he doesn't strike me as the type of dude who would have shit to do with this.

I'm sure VJ and Goat have nothing to do with each other besides the average Bitcoin shit. (Goat maybe mined some of VJ's coins maybe)
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April 15, 2015, 12:03:56 PM
#83
What if Goat is Variety Jones!

Who is this "Goat" guy?

Yeah good question....

Who is he?

Sorry wasn't really into SR, but this story with VJ seems interesting.
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April 15, 2015, 12:03:04 PM
#82
OK, don't bash me if you think this is stupid but.....

Did any of yous considered the fact that Edward Snowden is VJ?


I won't bash you and welcome all theories but I think it's stupid...

What Snowden revealed has a much bigger impact. Everyone is affected. His revelations influenced world politics and economics.
Silkroad, even though it made millions, was a small niche in the global drug trade. Only a very small percentage of the population have even heard of it. Even smaller the amount of people who used it.
Honestly, I don't think the NSA cares very much about SR. Maybe only if they want to give a new employee a training project.

Ross is a dreamer who thought he can change the world through his idea of a free market. And make lots of money, have fun. He has this careless and free attitude.
Snowden is a pure idealist. He wants to improve democracy. He is convinced something on a large scale goes terribly wrong. He knew he has to give up his freedom and economic benefits for his believes.

Fair enough.

However, what makes you think that SR was not a 3 letter agency project to begin with?
It has been said by Ross before that he is NOT the original creator of SR and apart from that we all know how the 3 letter agencies "work" right?

Thanks for your input though.

EDIT: You do know that most hackers smoke pot or do some kind of drugs right?
What makes you think Edward didn't?
AGD
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April 15, 2015, 10:52:26 AM
#81
What if Goat is Variety Jones!

Who is this "Goat" guy?
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April 15, 2015, 10:49:29 AM
#80
OK, don't bash me if you think this is stupid but.....

Did any of yous considered the fact that Edward Snowden is VJ?


I won't bash you and welcome all theories but I think it's stupid...

What Snowden revealed has a much bigger impact. Everyone is affected. His revelations influenced world politics and economics.
Silkroad, even though it made millions, was a small niche in the global drug trade. Only a very small percentage of the population have even heard of it. Even smaller the amount of people who used it.
Honestly, I don't think the NSA cares very much about SR. Maybe only if they want to give a new employee a training project.

Ross is a dreamer who thought he can change the world through his idea of a free market. And make lots of money, have fun. He has this careless and free attitude.
Snowden is a pure idealist. He wants to improve democracy. He is convinced something on a large scale goes terribly wrong. He knew he has to give up his freedom and economic benefits for his believes.
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April 15, 2015, 05:11:36 AM
#79
OK, don't bash me if you think this is stupid but.....

Did any of yous considered the fact that Edward Snowden is VJ?
After all he did not get paid for his services to DPR....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Snowden

Quote
Edward Joseph "Ed" Snowden (born June 21, 1983) is an American computer professional who leaked classified information from the National Security Agency (NSA) to the mainstream media, starting in June 2013.

SilkRoad:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silk_Road_%28marketplace%29

Quote
In 2013, the FBI shut down the website
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April 15, 2015, 01:57:00 AM
#78
What if Goat is Variety Jones!

Nah, Goat doesn't have that vibe at all.
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April 15, 2015, 01:39:28 AM
#77
So did anyone find any clues as to who Variety Jones (or Cimon) is?
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April 12, 2015, 11:49:20 AM
#76
Great movie, im waiting for the release date.
Anyway, there will always be a next DPR/Variety Jones after the current gets busted. Silk Road ad infitnium, it will just keep happening.
AGD
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April 11, 2015, 06:38:10 AM
#75
I find it also interesting, that he might be still around and already be working on a new "project" at this moment.
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April 09, 2015, 03:22:52 PM
#74
I really wonder if Variety jones did come up with the name or if He/she just thought it was the best name submitted. I believe I read on the old forums that they were running a name contest. And the winner was DPR.. So, While VJ could have come up with the name, I find it weird that there was a name contest. If VJ decided to give him that name then why the contest?
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