Topic: Who is "Variety Jones"? - page 14. (Read 47236 times)

Thrilla in Manila or a MGM Hug Fest?

Yeap, grabbing some popcorn.
There's gonna be a thriller on tonight -pun intended 



Go get 'em Brun!
 

Excellent find! I wonder how much of that $350K USD LabRat ended up with.

Yep, i know how to google.. here is the link that contains pretty much every thing that I've posted about..

http://www.deepdotweb.com/2015/04/03/silk-roads-unsealed-documents-compilation/

 I should have posted the link a long time ago, now if you have a question regarding the silk road case, you can easily find it..

Here's why a certain somebody seems to know so much about SR: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11293726.

Cops, that shoot innocent kids can get out, why not cops that steal druglords?

I think that because he was a DEA official that they will be harder on him, meaning charging him with everything they can. shit like this really hurts the federal government, especially with current cases. you could see a lot of his arrests come out of the word work and accuse carl of doing the same thing to them, etc. In my neck of the woods, a few years ago, a couple of local cops where planting evidence, stealing drugs out of wherever they store them, and doing illegal searches, etc. what got them caught is that they shot a defendant and killed him, one cop was actually charged. the other one lost his job and pension,etc. They had to let out like 40 federal prisoners, and countless state prisoners that these dirty cops had arrested. So, it could cause a domino effect, with Carl, not just on the Silk road case, but on any case he has touched. Like i said before, i believe that they could technically charge him with the same crimes that they charged indigo, and the others with. Carl was paid for helping out silk road. the only real problem is can the govt prove that he was all these alt characters, not just the one that was known by his bosses.

I think he made a few mistakes, on one of the "french maid" posts to DPR, i think it was french made, he had several and french maid is the only one that i can remember. well in one of the posts, he actually signed it with his real first name "carl" he very quickly resent another pm saying "sorry, i sometimes go by the name of carla" or something that was very unbelievable. but, the govt has issues with a lot of the pms because he made dpr use pgp with their communication. Now, one possibility that could happen is that they give some sort of deal to DPR, lets say, 10 years off his sentence, for flipping on carl and providing the pgp code for their communication. Im sure they have sent all of Carls computers to highly trained experts, maybe even the NSA, to try and figure out those pgp communcation, because thats where most of the evidence is... I think the NSA can legally work on it because they could argue it could affect national security, especially if they have one of their own working with illegal organiztions. It will all play out, like i said, I dont think that those two have even been officially charged, just a formal complaint has been filed.. so they are most likely trying to compile all the evidence before they hand out the charges...

But, on the flip side with them going easier on carl for your reasoning. think about if a doctor starts taking medication illegally (like splitting a patients prescription, or forging a script, etc), if a citizen did that, they would be thrown in jail, but doctors usually get one chance of going to rehab and getting their license back. so, in the govt, there is a double standard. Lets hope that doesn't happen here. with the govt having so many issues with the DEA and secret service, i dont think they will be light on anyone....

Is it possible, that FORCE presents his UC job as a main reason he commited these crimes? I mean, as a DEA agent it is possibly really hard to resist that temptation, when you have access to big amounts of "drug money" on a regular basis. This could lower the sentence significantly.

I hope so. this has been a huge black eye to the Govt. i have worried that they would sweep it under the rug, but since its out there, they have no choice but to continue with the charges, i did think that Shaun being released on a measly 50k bond was very favorable to him. in the fed system, 50k is nothing, usually they make you put your home or have to have millions to make sure you wont run.. so, you could be right.. then again, shaun may have flipped on Carl, hence the favoribilty, did i just make up a new word?lol...

Whats really bothersome, is that the judge seemed like he was going to let Carl out if he let them know where all the money was hidden. his attorney said it was complicated, it was on thumb drives, etc. he obviously doesnt know much about bitcoin,lol...

Do you really believe that?
Because cops have a "way" of getting away with things....

Ive read pretty much everything that is public regarding this, it very interesting. when i was thinking if Green could have stolen the money, he stole it at the wrong time, while being debriefed by federal agents, lol, if he was going to steal money, it would make sense that he would steal it in the comfort of his home and then run like the wind, lol.. but I honestly dont think green had anything to do with the theft, there is absolutley no proof of that. plenty of proof that shaun and carl did it..Doesnt make sense that he would help them fake his death,not run, if he stole the money, makes absolutely no sense that he had anything to do with that stolen bitcoin. Btw, it was a tad over 20k bitcoin that was stolen, if they would have sold it at the ATH they would have made over 20milion, but they got under a million for it, 840k, i believe was in the court records.

the one thing that is weird, is why let Shaun out and not Carl? how do they know for sure that Shaun has given up every bitcoin? btw, they havent even been officially charged with any crime, its only a complaint right now. I bet they both get more  charges, the biggie being obstuction of justice and they might get Carl with aiding and abetting drug  distribution, since he helped DPR with SR and with LE intel...So, the charges are going to be stiff i believe...

AGD, your spot on.. Nob, Carl bridges, just wanted to know what to do. it was all Ross' or VJ and inigo to murder him. at first, DPR just wanted the money back, then nob said his guys werent technical, (looking at it now, Carl knew that he was the thief and Curtis couldnt give back the money since he didnt have it) So he tried to convince him of not getting the money back. then VJ said something to the effect, " now lets talk about the organ donor" I take it that he was talking about murdering green.. DPR didnt even want Green hurt at first, he just wanted the money back..

all of this is in the unsealed docs from Ross' computer...

and while I believe Shaun bridges was the one actually moving the money, I fully believe Carl was in on it. those two communicated regularly about getting Greens help regarding bitcoin, and this was posted after the theft.. Also, i looked at the court documents from Carls arrest and he actually had over 8 million dollars in bitcoin from his financial statement, he even received 20k from Fox, im assuming its for his rights, he probably shouldnt have sold it to them so cheap, now, he could get a lot more, lol.... i dont know why they reported just 775k...

its actually quite interesting.... going to be a great movie, i hope they do it justice...

I know.
That's why I said "they said", not they proved 

Yeah, but he didn't. It was agent Bridges as far as I understand it.

Wasn't it Curtis Green that they said stole thousands of Bitcoins?

Nob asked him if he wanted a hit or just beat up. They still left him with a choice. Ross wanted them only beating up Curtis and pay back the money. Later Variety Jones convinced Ross to order the hit kinda like an example.

Isn't that what they did with Curtis Green though?

He said: "only googling for "Plural of Mongoose" will be enough to find him"

Do you really think VR was an agent? I highly doubt that an agent would advise to kill someone, but, he could have been working with NOB, so i guess its possible. I think the whole key to find out if Ross is telling the truth and to find out a lot of things, is to find out who VR is. I think moustache is spot on his thinking... i believe he stated that a lot of people think that VR and mongoose are the same person, it possible that what they want us to think.. but im pretty sure mongoose is waiting extradition to the USA.. We may never find out who VR is..

I do remember reading in one of their chat sessions between dpr and VR is VR stated something like " I cant believe you havent figured out who i am already" so there has to be  obvious clues in their chats...

Still possible. Religious motives for example ;-)