This is amazing, been waiting for a pod since I first got into lotto mining. Glad I never got a U3 in the end, those things were awfully unreliable.
Really excited to get my hands on Terminus! Sidehack and co you're the best!
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nice to read you sidehack.
but are you developing your hown fanless asic mner???
really awesome!!!
i hope you let known us when it will be ready to buy.
Why BM1384 instead of BM1387???
I know who BM1387 is 28nm and is rellay more relaiable....
but you choose 1387 just for this?
Terminus R808.. Terminus, It has something to do with The walking dead series???
Try reading his threads....but are you developing your hown fanless asic mner???
really awesome!!!
i hope you let known us when it will be ready to buy.
Why BM1384 instead of BM1387???
I know who BM1387 is 28nm and is rellay more relaiable....
but you choose 1387 just for this?
Terminus R808.. Terminus, It has something to do with The walking dead series???
The 1384 is the last chip from Bitmain that can easily salvaged and reused! All others after it are damn near impossible to work with due to the smaller pitch and issues on removing the heatsink adhesive.
However - he does have miners on the drawing board using NEW 16nm chips from BitFury.
http://solo.ckpool.org/workers/1BURGERAXHH6Yi6LRybRJK7ybEm5m5HwTr_TERMINUS
Whoops I must have forgot to mention I have a new pod miner in development, the Terminus R808. It still uses BM1384 (8 of 'em, hence the name) that should run 100GH off a 12V3A brick and 140GH from a 5A brick. Haven't fully tested yet but it should run that 100GH without a fan (turn it on its side for improved convection), and it has adjustable core voltage and built-in 80C thermal shutoff. At four inches square, it's the smallest not-stick Bitcoin miner made in what, two years?
Everything works except the main Vcore power is misbehaving so I'm redoing that part from scratch. The new layout is already done and I'll be sending off for prototype PCBs tomorrow. It also already works with VH's current cgminer build.
My test unit (running off a hacked external buck) is hashing away at 250MHz (110GH) as seen in the link above.
nice to read you sidehack.
but are you developing your hown fanless asic mner???
really awesome!!!
i hope you let known us when it will be ready to buy.
Why BM1384 instead of BM1387???
I know who BM1387 is 28nm and is rellay more relaiable....
but you choose 1387 just for this?
Terminus R808.. Terminus, It has something to do with The walking dead series???
You want some more SP20s? I've got some gathering dust.
Anything with USB that can run cgminer. Minimum specs to keep up with the workload are of course TBD.
Would it be possible to shift discussion back to more pod-specific considerations? The S1 refit project has been discussed and documented up the butt for right around two years and very little that isn't chip-specific has changed in that time so the answer to almost every possible question can be found in at least three other places.
No thanks, too loud for me and it's real hard to find fans that actually keep air moving and keeps the miner cool and quiet. Maybe in the future but not now.Anything with USB that can run cgminer. Minimum specs to keep up with the workload are of course TBD.
Would it be possible to shift discussion back to more pod-specific considerations? The S1 refit project has been discussed and documented up the butt for right around two years and very little that isn't chip-specific has changed in that time so the answer to almost every possible question can be found in at least three other places.
As has been mentioned repeatedly over the last couple years, there will be no proprietary controller required. If everything works as planned we'll be running USB to the boards so just about anything with USB will do. Since S1, S3 and S5 all use different controllers that's the best way to support all 3.
Since you're running the boards with USB would it also be possible to run these boards off of a computer? Just curious. I've swapped out most of my lower tier miners to SP20s and it wouldn't be possible to mount blades in there.
As has been mentioned repeatedly over the last couple years, there will be no proprietary controller required. If everything works as planned we'll be running USB to the boards so just about anything with USB will do. Since S1, S3 and S5 all use different controllers that's the best way to support all 3.
Since you're running the boards with USB would it also be possible to run these boards off of a computer? Just curious. I've swapped out most of my lower tier miners to SP20s and it wouldn't be possible to mount blades in there.
You want some more SP20s? I've got some gathering dust.
Anything with USB that can run cgminer. Minimum specs to keep up with the workload are of course TBD.
Would it be possible to shift discussion back to more pod-specific considerations? The S1 refit project has been discussed and documented up the butt for right around two years and very little that isn't chip-specific has changed in that time so the answer to almost every possible question can be found in at least three other places.
Anything with USB that can run cgminer. Minimum specs to keep up with the workload are of course TBD.
Would it be possible to shift discussion back to more pod-specific considerations? The S1 refit project has been discussed and documented up the butt for right around two years and very little that isn't chip-specific has changed in that time so the answer to almost every possible question can be found in at least three other places.
As has been mentioned repeatedly over the last couple years, there will be no proprietary controller required. If everything works as planned we'll be running USB to the boards so just about anything with USB will do. Since S1, S3 and S5 all use different controllers that's the best way to support all 3.
Since you're running the boards with USB would it also be possible to run these boards off of a computer? Just curious. I've swapped out most of my lower tier miners to SP20s and it wouldn't be possible to mount blades in there.
As has been mentioned repeatedly over the last couple years, there will be no proprietary controller required. If everything works as planned we'll be running USB to the boards so just about anything with USB will do. Since S1, S3 and S5 all use different controllers that's the best way to support all 3.
Here's a breakdown of my "product families":
Compac - USB stick miner, basic control system
Terminus - half-scale basic pod, same basic control system
Amita - full-scale pod, advanced control system
TypeZero - S1/3/5 refit board, same advanced control system
BM1384 Compac and 2Pac are a thing, Terminus is about to be a thing. I don't plan on making anything bigger with BM1384. I should have one of each product made with Bitfury chips, and development will progress from smaller to larger scale since each step builds on the progress from the previous step. The Amita will be the feature-rich pod, with software voltage setting and daisychain power and all the trimmings.
Compac - USB stick miner, basic control system
Terminus - half-scale basic pod, same basic control system
Amita - full-scale pod, advanced control system
TypeZero - S1/3/5 refit board, same advanced control system
BM1384 Compac and 2Pac are a thing, Terminus is about to be a thing. I don't plan on making anything bigger with BM1384. I should have one of each product made with Bitfury chips, and development will progress from smaller to larger scale since each step builds on the progress from the previous step. The Amita will be the feature-rich pod, with software voltage setting and daisychain power and all the trimmings.
I have both S1 and S5 on the side line, waiting for TypeZero with the S5 beaglebone would that be the controller or raspberry pi?
The pod has identical heatsinks above and below. The top one will mate directly onto the chips, the bottom will have a thermal pad between itself and the PCB to avoid shorting local ground planes (like jumping heatsinks on an S7).
I'll put up mechanical specs on the heatsinks and screw positions at some point so y'all can start playing. The entire bottom side of the PCB is empty except where through-hole components (jacks and whatnot) protrude as necessary, but the topside clearance is pretty specific. The heatsink is 1.813 inches (1 13/16) wide and there's at most 1/8 inch clearance between the heatsink edge and parts you really don't want the heatsink to touch.
As for prepay, I'd really rather you didn't. If the current prototype were up to par I'd say go for it, but since I've had to redesign (and new proto PCBs have been ordered) I won't take any money until the design is proven. The general size, shape and jack placement won't change though so you can start planning around that if you want.
By the way, the hacked-up prototype is now running 300MHz/132GH. In the morning another one will be in the mail to VH so he can improve driver support locally.
Thanks everyone who bought 2Pacs and provided miscellaneous support because that's what's allowed the current pace of product development. Just think what it'd been like if I had VH code and today's resources back in 2015.
I'll put up mechanical specs on the heatsinks and screw positions at some point so y'all can start playing. The entire bottom side of the PCB is empty except where through-hole components (jacks and whatnot) protrude as necessary, but the topside clearance is pretty specific. The heatsink is 1.813 inches (1 13/16) wide and there's at most 1/8 inch clearance between the heatsink edge and parts you really don't want the heatsink to touch.
As for prepay, I'd really rather you didn't. If the current prototype were up to par I'd say go for it, but since I've had to redesign (and new proto PCBs have been ordered) I won't take any money until the design is proven. The general size, shape and jack placement won't change though so you can start planning around that if you want.
By the way, the hacked-up prototype is now running 300MHz/132GH. In the morning another one will be in the mail to VH so he can improve driver support locally.
Thanks everyone who bought 2Pacs and provided miscellaneous support because that's what's allowed the current pace of product development. Just think what it'd been like if I had VH code and today's resources back in 2015.
Looking good. Is there any plans for 6pin power connection? Only because ive got lots of 6pin leads left over from various antminers that inwas hoping to use for the futures pods
I've seen a few adapters to go from a PCI-E 6-pin power cable to 3 (or more) barrel connectors.
Used to be pretty widespread back in the Gridseed "pod" and "blade" days.
Speaking of which - 2 of these would fit quite nicely on the 80 "blade" heatsinks if they could be attached somehow, though I can't tell if the pod has a heatsink on the bottom as well as the top one.
Can we start prepaying?
From the first post:
As for the rest - no. Terminus R808 needs more work as stated previously; BF16 anything is dependent on solving problems and that can't be predicted. Best I can say is, "as soon as VH and I possibly can".
It also already works with VH's current cgminer build.
As for the rest - no. Terminus R808 needs more work as stated previously; BF16 anything is dependent on solving problems and that can't be predicted. Best I can say is, "as soon as VH and I possibly can".
Will the new pod miners work with vthoang's cgminer fork?
Any estimates when Terminus, Amita, and TypeZero will be ready for purchase?
Any estimates when Terminus, Amita, and TypeZero will be ready for purchase?
Here's a breakdown of my "product families":
Compac - USB stick miner, basic control system
Terminus - half-scale basic pod, same basic control system
Amita - full-scale pod, advanced control system
TypeZero - S1/3/5 refit board, same advanced control system
BM1384 Compac and 2Pac are a thing, Terminus is about to be a thing. I don't plan on making anything bigger with BM1384. I should have one of each product made with Bitfury chips, and development will progress from smaller to larger scale since each step builds on the progress from the previous step. The Amita will be the feature-rich pod, with software voltage setting and daisychain power and all the trimmings.
Compac - USB stick miner, basic control system
Terminus - half-scale basic pod, same basic control system
Amita - full-scale pod, advanced control system
TypeZero - S1/3/5 refit board, same advanced control system
BM1384 Compac and 2Pac are a thing, Terminus is about to be a thing. I don't plan on making anything bigger with BM1384. I should have one of each product made with Bitfury chips, and development will progress from smaller to larger scale since each step builds on the progress from the previous step. The Amita will be the feature-rich pod, with software voltage setting and daisychain power and all the trimmings.
For anyone wondering, this is a half-scale pod kept intentionally simple. The fancy stuff like fan throttling and software voltage and six-pin jacks and screwholes for legs or cases or whatever are all gonna be there on the big one. So don't ask if such-and-such feature is gonna be on this, because it isn't.
Gotcha! I only remember you saying about the pods having 6pin jacks and possibly being able to be daisy-chained, that's all.
Going to be nice to finally see a decent pod miner
interesting, however, an enclosure might trap heat dissipating by fins, so maybe enclosure around PCB with fins protruding out?
then, it would look similar to some graphic cards.
heck, maybe, once he switches to BF chips, one can envision a "hanging" design similar to what people do with GPUs on metal racks.
then, a big fan could take care of a multitude.
then, it would look similar to some graphic cards.
heck, maybe, once he switches to BF chips, one can envision a "hanging" design similar to what people do with GPUs on metal racks.
then, a big fan could take care of a multitude.
I am working on something now for stacking two or four Superbpag hubs side by side and mounting a 80mm or 120mm case fan on top of them (the image below is for the four hub version). I was sort envisioning something similar for the pods (although oriented differently to account for the second heat sink). The idea being by forcing the air to flow across the heat sinks instead of just flowing in the general direction of the heat sinks we can get better cooling.
http://imgur.com/ze8Q6RE
For those not grasping the idea behind the image, there will be four hubs side by side with 2Pac's in each hub. The body shown in the image is looking from the top through to the bottom. The body will sit on top of the hubs with each of the 2Pac's in their respective walled off area. The bottom is open and there will be a fan on top so air will be pulled from the bottom to the top. There will be an unpictured body that goes on the bottom that will support each of the USB hubs and keep them in place and provide support for the pictured body. I am still early in the design phase so it may be hard to envision.
Not sure exactly what you're asking for. If you want the PCB layout, no because I make and sell these things for a living and I'm not giving that away. If you want a 3D mechanical something-or-other, I don't have that. I'm very pencil-and-paper. I can tell you it's a four-inch-square 1/16" thick slab.
No, not anything proprietary. The mechanical drawing would have been enough if it was an option. I was mainly wanting to get the dimensions for the cap and anything on the other side of the heat sinks that aren't in the picture. That way I could come up with some sort of air duct system/stand for the pods and know what sort of clearances I had to work with. I might be able to come up with something based off the specs you gave me.
interesting, however, an enclosure might trap heat dissipating by fins, so maybe enclosure around PCB with fins protruding out?
then, it would look similar to some graphic cards.
heck, maybe, once he switches to BF chips, one can envision a "hanging" design similar to what people do with GPUs on metal racks.
then, a big fan could take care of a multitude.
Not sure exactly what you're asking for. If you want the PCB layout, no because I make and sell these things for a living and I'm not giving that away. If you want a 3D mechanical something-or-other, I don't have that. I'm very pencil-and-paper. I can tell you it's a four-inch-square 1/16" thick slab.
No, not anything proprietary. The mechanical drawing would have been enough if it was an option. I was mainly wanting to get the dimensions for the cap and anything on the other side of the heat sinks that aren't in the picture. That way I could come up with some sort of air duct system/stand for the pods and know what sort of clearances I had to work with. I might be able to come up with something based off the specs you gave me.
Not sure exactly what you're asking for. If you want the PCB layout, no because I make and sell these things for a living and I'm not giving that away. If you want a 3D mechanical something-or-other, I don't have that. I'm very pencil-and-paper. I can tell you it's a four-inch-square 1/16" thick slab.
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