Topic: who Want To Bet On 2024 USA elections? (Read 6939 times)

After the way polls behave in the midterm elections, predicting a massive red wave in favor of the Republican party, I must say I cannot longer realistically trust those polls when comes to predictions on elections, specially one like this one which hold so much political revelance both nationally and internationally.

Though, it indeed seems logical to me less people will end up voting for Donald Trump if he gets convicted of a crime in a criminal case, like the one which just started yesterday in New York. One thing is supporting a candidate who has been accused of a crime, but I believe a different thing would be to continue to support such candidate after being found guilty and expected to spend time in prison.
I am not expecting the hardcore MAGA people to stop their support even after such a case, however, the independent and non-MAGA Republicans could be the ones who decide this incoming election and they care.

The craziest Republican candidate for the presidency of the United States is still in the race and that is Trump. From what he says in his election speeches, we can conclude that he completely wants to upset the balance of power in the world that has existed for a very long time, and not in favor of the United States. His attempt to quarrel or even destroy NATO and at the same time playing along with Putin in his desire to seize neighboring states is pure madness.

But it seems that the US population is gradually realizing this. Recent opinion polls show that Biden and Trump are almost equal in the level of support in the elections. Therefore, before the elections in November, Trump may no longer be the favorite in this race.

I don't think it would matter too much who is the next president of the US, at least for the average person.

People will always blame whoever is in power at the time, no matter who he is.

We will see what will happen, but based on many things happening lately, it doesn't seem to be an easy future for the US.

Hmmm you're right people will really bet on anything huh? Maybe we should switch the bet to betting on which nationstate will be successful in a cyber attack to change all the votes the night before in whatever direction they want??? haha  Now wouldn't that be hilarious. Of course if they are communist China they will have Biden stay, but Russia perhaps might want Trump in, but it seems russia has even taken a turn  they said they would want Biden to stay in office in the next election. LOL

I think every election is somewhat important, and yes, the US is clearly the most talked about and probably the one with most consequences in the future.

It's interesting to see people from all around the world making bets on these things. Personally I find it a bit strange. I feel like elections should not be used for gambling, but anyway, I think nowadays everything is "gambleable"

This afternoon I saw some news about the elections taking place in India and how those are the biggest elections which take place today on the planet. It caught my attention how those elections are done thanks to digital tools and technology, otherwise it would be pretty difficult to count all those votes and get a result in an approachable frame of time.
It is ironic, because in the case of the United States, many Republicans (specially those who are not sure about the legitimacy of the elections there) believe all the elections in USA are supposed to be carried out using paper and hand counting.
Imagine what would happen in India if one of the major parties would start to put claims like that one onto the table and they demanded the central government to hold those elections using paper and no electronic devices. It would be chaotic I think.

Even though, The United States elections are very important, the elections in India are probably the second most important ones taking place this year. It is a huge country with a strong Leader and a huge market in south Asia.

That is true. Elections are about to start by next month in India. Almost a billion voters will take part in it. Then we have elections in the United States and Russia. In Bangladesh elections were completed two months back. Indonesia had elections last month, so was the case with Pakistan. In short, most of the world's population (where there is democracy) will be participating in the electoral process in 2024. And I am excluding China, because they don't have any elections. All that said, most important one obviously is POTUS election of 2024.

I understand, what happened is that at that time the circumstances of the country were very different from how they are now, Biden has allowed many things that in the world should not be happening due to the influence and power that the country has, for example the conflict that he is still in Russia and Ukraine, according to Trump he said that he would not have allowed this confrontation, of course a person like him can talk and say many things, but we do not really know what are the things that he could have done, but I know that he has some friendship with Putin and he could have negotiated something, the issue of immigration, because while Trump was very delicate about it, only people who had a Visa were those who were allowed to enter the country, now with the ease that there is, it is more easy to enter, although I think they have already changed those policies, but even so those small problems have brought other consequences within the country, and Americans do not like that.

Of course all this influences the Current Moment of the country to see how far they can go with all these events and depending on what he can promise , I don't have much Knowledge if Congress is currently in favor of Biden's political  Line or if it is more focused on the Policies of a Trump, but that is what they must Review the most in order to make a more complete government.

Quite interesting indeed. I had noticed there are going to be many elections around the world, some happening here in the American continent, but I did not have a clear magnitude of the number of elections which are supposed to be held this year.
Let us noticed how in this thread we only talk about the presidential elections in the United States, while there are so many other options markets and casinos could pick up to offer to their bettors, it is only a proof on how relevant and important elections in the United States are for the rest of the world in general.
Despise my country being one of those which have elections this year, I doubt anyone would dare to bet on the results, because of the amount of corruption and interference within our society. It is a pity.

If a casino is willing to offer a market for an election, it is because that specific country is assume to hold free and fair ones.

         -    I think that Biden will still win the presidency, because in the last election he was able to defeat Trump despite many people expecting Trump to win, but when the counting came,
the result was that Biden was the winner.

Although we are not sure if Biden really cheated, if Biden continues to do what he did first and those who supported him still remain as to why he won, there will be no fight or chances for Trump to really win again. .

2024 is going to be a really interesting year for elections.

About half of the world will be facing elections this year.

Here are some details about it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_elections_in_2024

It's going to be more suspense actions in the space. The congress will takes charge for the favorite candidate and we all are aware of the electoral system. The interests of these influential men is heart, they already know how to cope with the whole system and doing exceptionally brilliant. The former president, Donald picks interests and he's not yet done, he's definitely coming back to take power. Donald Trump is back and running for the presidency this season, he's a man of good vision and have tried to improve his administration for the United States of America.

Apart from the POTUS election, is anyone interested in the other races? Senate elections are due on 34 seats, while House elections will also take place simultaneously. Republican majority looks likely in Senate, but there is some uncertainty over the exact numerical majority. I don't know whether any of the sportsbooks offer bets on senate elections. Apart from the overall outcome, races in Arizona, Montana, Michigan, Nevada and Ohio looks very interesting. But then, don't forget the fact that GOP underperformed in 2022.

Do i even thought about it that Trump could gain the interest of the congress in their majority support on him for reelection back into office after which Biden has made a strong stand to remain with his stay in both the congress and the other parties that supported them, i don't know what could have been the fate of Trump on this but am sure its something he needs more reevaluation on and sit to think about the possible means he could gain back the interest of the people and the congress in which he belong.

You are right, but because of the discontent and according to the policies of other candidates who want to run for president according to the polls, some say that Trump is the ideal, I think that at this moment Americans care more about what a populist can announce, Because they hear in him what they want to hear, I don't really know what criteria Americans use to choose their president, but since there are many things that the average American doesn't like, who could it be? I understand that Trump is a very impulsive person, in fact he became very famous with his tweets, and considering that politicians always tell lies and promises that they will never keep, they only make some changes when they come to power, because the first to receive certain benefits are to those who contributed a lot to his presidential candidacy, those are the first beneficiaries of the new government as a reward for their loyalty, we must also consider that Trump cannot do much if Congress does not approve it, so he would have to have a majority in the political direction favorable to him to be able to execute everything that occurs to him, Although there will Always be opposition that will criticize the schemes proposed by the government.

But given this, I am seeing that the United States is becoming a very political country, a country where it greatly Needs a leader to get it out of the inconsistencies that it has until now, and if it does not attack those problems that until now are imperceptible or certain vulnerabilities that bothers that it will overflow, and over time that will be like a time bomb, in fact all those Attacks that have been made against Trump, the women who sued him for alleged rapes, accusing Trump directly, well, it is something that they have not been Able to achieve , not even with Epstein's island that they are still trying to see everything they can declassify from there according to the people who managed to get out of there.

I think that this topic is moving to a political discussion, rather than discussing the odds of Biden or Trump to win.
A more interesting question is will Robert Kennedy Jr. gather enough votes as an independent candidate to change the outcome of the election. If he steals enough votes from Trump, Biden might have a small chance to win. Trump hasn't chosen a candidate for vice president.
Maybe choosing a popular politician as a future vice president will lead to a better result at the elections for Trump. I'm still not sure who is going to be the next US president. Trump is the obvious choice, but all the Trump haters might join forces to stop him.

Well, by 2028 Trump will be 81, and Biden will be 85...

I'm not really sure they would be running for president, independent of being reelected or not.

I think the idea of having a maximum age for president should be discussed.

I mean, there are checks for people driving a car at late age, but for driving a whole country you don't need any checks?

To be fair when there is a president that goes for a re-election, not that many high quality people actually go for nomination. There is a huge chance that you do not end up getting endless amount of nominations, you try your hand a few times max and then you are done, and it would also impact your position as well, so you should be careful when you throw your hat in the ring. Plus, when you are the nominee, you end up saying bad things about other nominees, which means if you end up losing, you are going to get a lot of backlash on that.

So, only people who are not that great goes up against a re-election candidate. Trump and Biden has that advantage, but after this one, I am pretty sure we are going to get two new candidates for 2028 by both parties, and I am sure it will be pretty strong.

Trump says always that is going to solve all problems which no one before him has been able to solve, haven't your noticed it?
You should go back to his campaign in 2016 and to his campaign for reelection back in 2020. When he talked about trashing Obamacare and replace it with a better system he never did implement a solution for people to be able to afford for their medicines and treatments.
Trump also said that he was going to decrease the national debt/deficit under his presidency and instead, he managed to increase the national debt of the country (by cutting the taxes to the richest people in the United States). He could not even diver the wall he campaigned on during the 2016.

By the way, you should see at the numbers of the inflation and the prices of the Fuel there in the USA and the percentage of employment, even though I do not completely agree with the methods and politics used by Biden as president, the metrics of the American economy are pretty far from being bad, they are actually quite good. Trump knows it, that is why he ordered Republicans to kill the Border bill negotiated on the Senate/Chamber, because he needs something to run on, and he plans to run on the immigration topic, as he has always done. If he wins, it is because populism and disagreement of Biden acceptance of LGBTQ people and Marihuana, also de management of the conflicts overseas, of course.

An election is not about who is the best person to lead a country and the people. Elections are very much similar to beauty pageants and popularity contests where personalities are more important than what good a person has done for his country.

Also, we can criticize these lunatics in the Republican National Convention for being stupid, however, the most stupid people in the world are the people who voted for them to be in power. If there is anyone that should be blamed, it is the voters.