Topic: who Want To Bet On 2024 USA elections? - page 6. (Read 6913 times)

Exactly this! Trump is more of a businessman than a politician he knows how to treat his business partners. If a crisis can be avoided, it should be avoided at any cost.  


We need to dig deeper... have you heard about the BIG GAME? Are you sure the Ukrainian nation really wants it? Do they want NATO? Are you sure about that?

Just ask yourself: all these "revolutions" in ex-USSR countries which are exact carbon copies of each other (Georgia, Ukraine, Belarus) were they real or  were they set up by someone? They even tried it in Russia with Navalny but failed. Putin is too tough.  

Giving what Russia wants is not negotiation, being friendly with Russia is one approach and I agree that Trump would have prevented the war, which would be an awesome thing because nobody would have to die. But also, you are giving up freedom in that case, Ukraine is their own nation and they wanted to be part of Nato, they wanted to become more west, and when they decided to do that Russia started attacking.

So, what we are saying here is that Trump would basically talk with Putin, say Ukraine can't get in, and prevented the war. Would we want a president who would take away freedom of choice from another nation, to stop a war? Maybe, that would be a possibility but I rather let the world see that Russia is a dictatorship and an evil state right now. Russians are lovely by the way, I am saying this just for Putin.

Yes, I absolutely agree, that's what most probably is going to happen in case Trump wins. And it's pretty logical. In fact, Ukraine should have started negotiations when they managed to push the Russians back last year. Now it's a bit late but still possible.

People around the globe are tired of this war and they want to end it ASAP. Trump will be a heavy favourite, Biden is too old and he's allegedly just a sockpuppet and in fact guys like Anthony Blinken are in charge.   

I believe when comes to betting on events like this one (elections and political happenings), it is common to see lower odds than in some sport matches, that is true, that is the downside. The upside is that there is a lot of time for people to analyze (with the United States elections we have literal months before choosing our move) and we have more resources to lead ourselves to a right prediction, you know: polls, rallies, news; now we have indictments, scandals with secret documents... This could be a good chance for some people wise within the political analysis so make some good money, even those with those low odds. It must be kind of weird for someone like you to be in the spotlight of the news and becoming an important factor for the United States to choose their next leader and the alleged leader of the free world.
I believe you have told me before, you think Trump does not actually many chances to become the next president of the country, if so, then you should step forward and wager some money in favor of Joe Biden, not much, though. It could be fun. 
I am myself waiting for this year to continue to advance before finally deciding where to put my money on, if you already have a choice then do it.

Yes, because of the odds. But that's me. Sometimes I realize that my style of betting might appear weird to some people and rightly so. I wouldn't advice to follow my moves.

As for Ukraine's victory two years ago, it's subjective. I'm Ukrainian and I live in Ukraine, and want Russians out of my land, ... but it's so offtopic it hurts. Let's leave it there.

You are right there, it mostly depends on the states which decide to exclude Donald Trump from the ballot, if California decided to exclude him, then there would be no difference since California is traditionally a very sapphire blue state with no chance of winning for Trump this year, on the other hand if Texas or Florida excluded Trump from participating in the ballot then it would be a very serious matter to him, because those are states which at the time being are Ruby red and very important for the Republican party to secure their possible victory, though Florida or Texas taking that step is very unlikely to happen. The choice then comes down to purple states or the so called swinging states, like Nevada.

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It depends on the personal point of view of each person within the left. though I must admit that most of the political left in the United States seems to agree the USA and the west in general is supposed to be tough in Russia and not allow Putin to expand and invade other countries, if we talk about negotiations then I believe it would be likely for Trump be positively biased in favor of Russia instead of Ukraine. If Trump manages to get into the White house again, I would note be surprised if he tried to push Ukraine into the negotiating table with Russia and give up on part of their territory in exchange for peace or a long standing ceasefire.

Sportsbooks do not offer odds without any counted or measured basis. These offers are not based news or their opinions. These are based on numbers and data because if they are not, sportbooks would be bankrupt already hehehe.

Also, on the Ukraine war, Noam Chomsky who is a leftist political commentator said that Trump would have dome better for Ukraine because what he might do is make negotiations with Russia to prevent war. He did this during his administration, this is way Russia avoided starting it.

If I remember correctly, I think I read that the ability to run for president is a state issue, not federal.

So, there might be the case that some states don't allow Trump to run for president and yet he still manages to win the election.

I'm not sure about the legal aspect of it, and if they need to be allowed in every state, but I think it won't be a major issue if the states that don't allow him are states where he was going to lose anyway.

I might be wrong about it though, and it might be more nuanced than this, I just don't know enough about the system, but that's how it looks like to me.

We are approaching an interesting point in this presidential race in the United States for both those who only follow this for political reasons and also those who have set bets on either Joe Biden or Donald Trump.
It is expecting the Supreme court of the United States to rule whether Trump  an be actually be excluded from the election ballot, based on one of the amendments of the Constitution of the United States which forbids insurrectionists from running from public office. I wonder why would casinos do if Trump gets effectively disqualified from running for president in this year. Will they close their markets before the election actually takes place and distribute the money or will they wait for the inauguration of the winner (whoever it is) before closing the markets and distributing the money of the losers to the winners?
For the sake of the casinos reputation and for people not to over-react to the decision, I would rather casinos to way for the day of inauguration or the declaration of the winner, instead closing it all if Trump is kicked out the ballot, perhaps they will not close anything since Nikki Haley could still have a chance to be the president if Trump goes away; though, I am skeptical on Republicans electing a woman for the first time in the United States history...

Why would not be interesting to bet on him? Only because the odds?
I believe this may be one of the most important and relevants presidential elections in the history of the modern United States or America, so there are a lot of reasons not only to vote in them if one is a Citizen of that country, but also to bet on one candidate, according to what we believe it could happen.
The odds of Donald Trump could easily be influenced by the decisions to be taken by the justice system in the United States, for now it was been clear indictments alone are not enough to make their voters to go away, though, some surveys have suggested he would start to lose much of his backing if he indeed is found guilty of some felony. That may cause his odds to dump very hard and give advantage to Joe Biden.

Also, I knew there were some Russian influence in the West, specially in west Europe and the United States, but I did not know it has so big that they prevented Ukraines victory two years ago. Where did you find that information?

No, you are not wrong. Unfortunately, a lot of officials in the West are paid by the Kremlin. If not for them, Russia would be defeated by Summer 2022. But most people in the Western governments are not that corrupt, and that's I'm sure if Trump will be elected the help for Ukraine won't stop. It's because Russia can't buy most of the U.S. officials.

Meanwhile Trump is getting more and more support fro the bettors:



Now I'd even say it's not that interesting to bet him, to be honest.

Actually. You would be surprised on how much influence those celebrities have over the behavior and the thoughts of people. Several years ago there was some trolling campaign aiming to make people to believe Justin Bieber was suffering from Cancer and he had lost his hair because of the treatment, the people behind the hoax did so in order to convince all his female fans to cut their hair off completely as a way to show solidarity to Bieber. Thousands of them did it and showed themselves in social media with no hair left.

The point of celebrities endorsing people running for public office is about getting young people people to vote, in a situation where they would have not voted otherwise, before their favorite musician or celebrity told them to get involved in the destiny of their country. Though, I agree with you that in normal circumstances those endorsements are not supposed to change anything, however, you need to recall the last presidential election was won by Joe Biden by a very thin margin in several swing states, so if Taylor managed to add some thousands of people to vote for Either Trump or Biden, it could become a game charger in this next presidential election.

a popular celebrity may influence their candidacy but i don't think people are so dumb just to vote because of the endorsement of that celebrity. if they see that the candidate is deserving enough for the position, then the backing of a super star or super popular celebrity is just secondary. i don't think people are not thinking of the future of their country. once the dust settles, it all comes to the fact that a good leader is needed to govern their country.

for sure, we will be hearing a lot of conspiracy theories once election is getting nearer. it all boils down how these candidates will use their advantage over their competitors. maybe highlight their positives and what they can really do to their government and people, not just promises but tangible steps they can truly undertake during their administration.

The Republican media has been losing their heads lately about the fact Taylor S has been promoting all the people possible to register to vote. The interesting things about this is that Taylor does not specifically call for people to vote for a candidate of her choice, she simply wants people to register and move massively. Though, the Republican party is aware that they are more likely to lose the Presidential elections the more people vote in the incoming month of November. Hence, that is why they are panicking over the new amount of people to enter as part of the voting population.
There have been also a very high number of conspiracy theories involving Taylor and her alledged sponsorship in favor of the president Joe Biden, though, as far as I know, there have not been proofs to back those allegations.

Leaving all those things to one side, I have some something to ask: what are they chances for a single super star like her to actually influence over the odds for a candidate? Would you expect the odds for Joe Biden to rise if he managed to make a super music star to openly sponsor him?

I personally believe it is an unlikely situation, but I have already seen music stars and celebrities to endorse politicians in the past, so who knows.

Well, to me is not a surprise Biden is a president who is not supporter of the idea of Cryptocurrency and the idea of self-custody of our own crypto assets. In terms of new technologies we should no make any mistake and realize Biden is a dinosaur in that regard.
On the other hand, Trump was very much also skeptical of Bitcoin and cryptocurrency, but he has allegedly received and handled Ethereum in these months (probably because of it's involvement in the selling of his own NTF collection).
He has allegedly sold over 4 million dollars in ETH.

So there is a real possibility Trump and his money managers have realized Ethereum and Bitcoin are not scams as he previously mentioned and if he wins, then he will be more flexible on the integration of Bitcoin and Ethereum within the United States economy. He could even give some relief on the taxes applied on crypto assets.

All of it is speculation, though. We must admit Trump has more chances of being crypto friendly than Biden or the establishment of the democrat party do.

Trump is not overly pro-Bitcoin and Biden is not anti-Bitcoin. If Biden was against Bitcoin, then he had 4 years with him to ban the cryptocurrency exchanges and ban trading of Bitcoin. These extreme steps were not taken. And let's not forget the fact that although the permission was delayed several times, in the end the approval for Bitcoin ETF came from the Biden administration. And in recent days I am not hearing much about the CBDC shit. Probably the governments have realized that CBDC can't replace Bitcoin, no matter how much they try.

In reality I think the whole point of Bitcoin is that it is independent of whoever is the president of any nation.

At the end of the day, you will always be able to transfer bitcoins from one wallet to the other. There are no countries involved in that.

I don't like Trump, but Biden is obviously the worst president for crypto. I'm sure you are aware of what Biden's people in Congress are trying to do, trying to ban bitcoin, ban mining, ban the right to self-custody... They made a number of crypto companies migrate out of the US. They shadow banned bitcoin by not allowing companies to get licenses to operate without any reason. They were denying bitcoin ETF for no reason as well, since in 2018 they allowed futures, but in 2021 the administration changed, Biden became the president and the applications for spot ETFs started to be denied for no reason. Senator Warren is basically Biden's right hand and she's not only a CBDC supporter, but also a hater of freedom. If she displays such attitude, I bet Biden does as well, but he's advised not to talk too much about it because it would be very easy for the people to prove that he has no idea what he's talking about when it comes to bitcoin. He doesn't even know the basics of how it works.

I like Vivek and he now supports Trump. It would be great if the guy became VP.
IMO Trump is going to win if he doesn't get involved in some scandal, or put in jail and it's going to be the lesser evil for the crypto space.

I think its ok to discuss large changes like today the action by NATO or possibly just USA in response to terrorist actions backed by Iran.  I perceive that to be a big news story that could change the odds if Biden is seen to lack action voters want or vice versa taking actions which work out badly it could change the course of this entire years outcome and beyond.

Everyone has personal bias so there is that much to consider always but its been said a few times its never just about one person.  The military stressed that route in the past, they make the plans and present viable choices to the president and government so its not about top down one person demands specifics there is a long discussion on threats in the military's case and other departments also present viable spending plans etc.   Who gets favored with action, budget allowance, authorized spending on their plans is the bias of that serving administration and a great many plans are written hoped for but never occur because it never found favor with the ruling party and/or voters who petition their representatives.   Guessing the mood of the nation has to be a large part of deciding who could possibly win this, people got this particularly wrong in the past by ignoring too much the detail of the electoral college.

I don't think there is a problem discussing a little bit of North American politics here, since it kind of stays within the topic of this thread, if you asked me. We must not just dive too much into It and focus on the discussion of the odds and chances of any of the candidates to win. Leaving that to one side, it is kind of a surprise to me there in Nigeria people is literally praying for people to win the American election. Is this some general phenomenon or is something you only observe in people with some religious association?
I mostly troubles me because Donald Trump is not the most opened minded person in the United States when comes to people from Africa, some have even accused him of being a closeted racist man. So if you could give some extra information about how Nigerians view him, It would be very helpful to me to learn.
By the way, regardless of what anyone personally feels about Trump or Biden, I don't see a problem with you trying to profit from his victory. Betting in favor of a candidate does not have to mean you personally like him or support his political ideas, that is something people people here in the americas do not seem to have learnt yet, unfortunately. I could perfectly picture family arguments and discussions if some adult child decided to bet in favor of a candidate who goes against the house political values.