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Quote from: swogerino on June 27, 2023, 04:43:54 AM

Now everything is different in the global place we live in,the world now is just but a big global country and of course the politics being conducted nowadays are much different compared to those presidents mentioned here which are indeed the best ones in US history.

It is even more difficult to bet on a winner in the US elections in 2024 as we have also to take into a big chunk of account the war on Ukraine,what will be the expectation of such on going war and how it will be during the elections time if it will still be a live,so this all cast even more doubt on betting on such event.

The global part is very true because back in the day people wouldn't even know the names of the presidents in other nations, well mostly they still do not know but type of people who are interested in politics not only know who the president is, but they know who they went up against and won as well. I bet that during like 50s and 60s people wouldn't know who the runner up on the USA election was, they would know who the president was if they cared but not who they won against.

I am not talking about Americans by the way, they go to elections and see, I mean people outside of that nation. This works for all the nations as well not just USA, I know who Macron went against, or why Merkel stayed for so long, and that old bitter angry lady in Italy as well.

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Quote from: cabron on June 27, 2023, 09:00:50 PM

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Mainstream media is now rejecting Biden. And no one can blame them seeing how unfit the old man is. He was even acknowledging the numerous state secrets he had sold live on TV and everyone besides him had the funniest reaction, no one did the face palm though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVIe3AvvDPU

Trump also got the viral audio recording where he discussed classified docs he held on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIDdrFjHh0o

Both parties need a new representative for the 2024 election. But if both of them insist, I think Trump will still win.

The audio recording of Trump was quite interesting to hear.

When are we going to get the results of this whole thing?

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Quote from: cabron on June 27, 2023, 09:00:50 PM

Mainstream media is now rejecting Biden. And no one can blame them seeing how unfit the old man is. He was even acknowledging the numerous state secrets he had sold live on TV and everyone besides him had the funniest reaction, no one did the face palm though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVIe3AvvDPU

Trump also got the viral audio recording where he discussed classified docs he held on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIDdrFjHh0o

Both parties need a new representative for the 2024 election. But if both of them insist, I think Trump will still win.

LOL.. from where do you get the idea that mainstream media is rejecting Biden? From what I can see, the MSM is still solidly behind Biden. Just check the coverage of the recent Hunter Biden scandal and you will understand. And I agree with the argument that both the parties need new candidates in 2024. But looks like that is not going to happen. In all probability, 2024 POTUS elections will be a re-run of 2020. Opinion polls are quite divergent at this point. Some, like Rasmussen Reports, Harvard-Harris and The Messenger/HarrisX puts Trump ahead of Biden by a large margin. While some of the other polls, like those from NBC News, Quinnipiac and Yahoo News have predicted results in the opposite direction.

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Quote from: 2Pac on June 27, 2023, 07:07:18 PM

Who will be the candidates anyway? I don't trust both party but one will win eventually. Good presidents do their second terms, like Obama, and bad presidents can't do, like Trump. I don't think Biden fit in both categories. He wasn't bad but he's too old to re-elect, I don't even think he will be a candidate again. I have to see DP's candidates first.

Mainstream media is now rejecting Biden. And no one can blame them seeing how unfit the old man is. He was even acknowledging the numerous state secrets he had sold live on TV and everyone besides him had the funniest reaction, no one did the face palm though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVIe3AvvDPU

Trump also got the viral audio recording where he discussed classified docs he held on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIDdrFjHh0o

Both parties need a new representative for the 2024 election. But if both of them insist, I think Trump will still win.

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Who will be the candidates anyway? I don't trust both party but one will win eventually. Good presidents do their second terms, like Obama, and bad presidents can't do, like Trump. I don't think Biden fit in both categories. He wasn't bad but he's too old to re-elect, I don't even think he will be a candidate again. I have to see DP's candidates first.

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Quote from: nullama on June 26, 2023, 11:29:12 PM

Quote from: Hispo on June 26, 2023, 01:11:44 PM

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And I think that is what happened during the presidential election that give Trump his first Term, Trump was a bad candidate in terms of policy and Hillary was not popular enough, even among democrat voters. Bernie had more lefty ideas which managed to capture a good percentage of the democrat voting base, but in the end, he was left out the race.

It is sad that in today's politics, it is not longer unacceptable to say things like Trump does or even Biden does. Normal politics and diplomacy is missed by many, i am certain...

I wonder if presidents like Abraham Lincoln, George Washington, Franklin D. Roosevelt, or Theodore Roosevelt would be popular in 2024.

The United States is a completely different place these days compared to when they were presidents.

How about a time warp for fame and likes, eh? Lincoln, Washington, the Roosevelts — would they ace 2024's popularity game? Think about Lincoln in the digital era. Would his Gettysburg TikTok shake souls worldwide? And Washington, a party-neutral, could he unite the hyper-tagged 2024 populace? Imagine Teddy Roosevelt Instagramming live from a National Park, or F.D. Roosevelt on a YouTube live for his "fireside chats." Picture them dancing to the tune of memes and hashtags.

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Quote from: nullama on June 26, 2023, 11:29:12 PM

I wonder if presidents like Abraham Lincoln, George Washington, Franklin D. Roosevelt, or Theodore Roosevelt would be popular in 2024.

The United States is a completely different place these days compared to when they were presidents.

Waiting for the 2024 United States elections, I know the best presidential candidate will win, but the main question is, who will be the next president after Joe Biden? These are powerful principled guys who are always willing to assist America and its citizens. They are patriotic when it comes to national revenue and have served the country to the best of their abilities. Comparing prehistoric and modern politics is on a whole different level. New legislation have been enacted to shape the electoral process, and these candidates will set out their plans to become winner, everything scenario concerning the election would be tensed.

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Quote from: nullama on June 26, 2023, 11:29:12 PM

Quote from: Hispo on June 26, 2023, 01:11:44 PM

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And I think that is what happened during the presidential election that give Trump his first Term, Trump was a bad candidate in terms of policy and Hillary was not popular enough, even among democrat voters. Bernie had more lefty ideas which managed to capture a good percentage of the democrat voting base, but in the end, he was left out the race.

It is sad that in today's politics, it is not longer unacceptable to say things like Trump does or even Biden does. Normal politics and diplomacy is missed by many, i am certain...

I wonder if presidents like Abraham Lincoln, George Washington, Franklin D. Roosevelt, or Theodore Roosevelt would be popular in 2024.

The United States is a completely different place these days compared to when they were presidents.

Now everything is different in the global place we live in,the world now is just but a big global country and of course the politics being conducted nowadays are much different compared to those presidents mentioned here which are indeed the best ones in US history.

It is even more difficult to bet on a winner in the US elections in 2024 as we have also to take into a big chunk of account the war on Ukraine,what will be the expectation of such on going war and how it will be during the elections time if it will still be a live,so this all cast even more doubt on betting on such event.

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Quote from: nullama on June 26, 2023, 11:29:12 PM

I wonder if presidents like Abraham Lincoln, George Washington, Franklin D. Roosevelt, or Theodore Roosevelt would be popular in 2024.

The United States is a completely different place these days compared to when they were presidents.

Yhey are men of good substance, they have lived by example, that was their own era and we cannot compare it to this current dispensation because obviously things have changed in a big way, during their tenure, they give the best they could in accordance to how the state of affairs were then, we cannot compare that to now because the more we advanced in technology and developments the more the demands needed for more efforts on their governance, but this era has also birth new opportunities through the present president.

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... everyone would look into this as a "better my bad than your bad guy" type of deal.

And I think that is what happened during the presidential election that give Trump his first Term, Trump was a bad candidate in terms of policy and Hillary was not popular enough, even among democrat voters. Bernie had more lefty ideas which managed to capture a good percentage of the democrat voting base, but in the end, he was left out the race.

It is sad that in today's politics, it is not longer unacceptable to say things like Trump does or even Biden does. Normal politics and diplomacy is missed by many, i am certain...

I am not well informed with inner American sociology but I always wonder, do Americans want change? I also feel like they want something totally different to both Trump and Biden. I guess new faces may have greater chance in next year's voting. I would say new Christian conservative candidate may have lot more chance than Trump having new term... Biden on the other hand is very very old guy. He will retire to be replaced by someone new within his party. I guess they may try female candidate for once more. Its a shame America never had female president.

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Quote from: nullama on June 26, 2023, 11:29:12 PM

I wonder if presidents like Abraham Lincoln, George Washington, Franklin D. Roosevelt, or Theodore Roosevelt would be popular in 2024.

The United States is a completely different place these days compared to when they were presidents.

Franklin D. Roosevelt was the president of the United States during 1930s to 1940s. He was the one who commanded USA during World War 2. On the other hand, Theodore Roosevelt started his presidency more than a hundred years ago, in 1901. I am not even going to mention about Abraham Lincoln and George Washington. Back then, the priorities for voters were quite different. And USA was not even the no.1 economy in the world. A lot has changed in the last 100 years... and according to that the profile of candidates have also changed.

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Quote from: Hispo on June 26, 2023, 01:11:44 PM

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And I think that is what happened during the presidential election that give Trump his first Term, Trump was a bad candidate in terms of policy and Hillary was not popular enough, even among democrat voters. Bernie had more lefty ideas which managed to capture a good percentage of the democrat voting base, but in the end, he was left out the race.

It is sad that in today's politics, it is not longer unacceptable to say things like Trump does or even Biden does. Normal politics and diplomacy is missed by many, i am certain...

I wonder if presidents like Abraham Lincoln, George Washington, Franklin D. Roosevelt, or Theodore Roosevelt would be popular in 2024.

The United States is a completely different place these days compared to when they were presidents.

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Quote from: FanEagle on June 25, 2023, 11:43:23 AM

Quote from: Hispo on June 24, 2023, 06:22:48 AM

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... everyone would look into this as a "better my bad than your bad guy" type of deal.

And I think that is what happened during the presidential election that give Trump his first Term, Trump was a bad candidate in terms of policy and Hillary was not popular enough, even among democrat voters. Bernie had more lefty ideas which managed to capture a good percentage of the democrat voting base, but in the end, he was left out the race.

It is sad that in today's politics, it is not longer unacceptable to say things like Trump does or even Biden does. Normal politics and diplomacy is missed by many, i am certain...

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Quote from: Hispo on June 24, 2023, 06:22:48 AM

What I think it is happening is that bettors realize there is a silent majority who does not attend to neither leftist events nor MAGA gatherings, the so called moderated voters, they are more pragmatic and do not go along with whatever of the things Trump says, political related or in relation to the charges he is facing.

That is why Republican candidates in the mid terms under performed, on the news you only see fanatics but those who stay calm in their homes also vote and they do it in a more rational manner, there is where the Biden's changes of winning come from, from normal people who may not agree on several policies of Biden but approve his economical advances.

You mean "normal" people. Because any normal person would see right through this situation and would not want either side. This is basically just trying to get votes by playing into the hands of other side and I think that's not a good way.

Any candidate that is a normal person who just says ordinary stuff like more jobs, better healthcare, cheaper drugs, better education, more pay to teachers, better pay to truckers, military power, and all kinds of cliche things presidential candidates said for the last 200 years, I bet that person would actually have a high chance of getting the win. When both sides are crazy like this, I can say that it is not going to be easy choice, everyone would look into this as a "better my bad than your bad guy" type of deal.

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US politics seems to be about selecting the least dangerous option. At this point, Trump sounds like a better option when compared to Kamala or Biden. Kennedy is better option as well, but there is no chance that he will manage to win the Democrat primaries. Trump is not a perfect choice, but given the lack of other suitable options I guess a lot of people will be voting for him in 2024. One of his advantages is that he knows how to handle the economy. And Biden lacks that quality. Economy went on a downward spiral once he took over in 2020.

I wonder why would anyone think Trump handled economy well, you do realize it was his term when pandemic happened and he did basically nothing about it right? He just printed money and gave money to his friends under PPP as well and huge tax cuts to rich.

In any case, I would bet on Biden, you may not like to, and you may dislike him, and you may think he wasn't a better president, but majority of the nation believes Trump is such a terrible president that they rather see a senile old dude barely speaking to be up there on that post instead of Trump. You can deny this, you may think it is not true, but that's what happened on the last elections and I think it would be the case on the next one as well, people dislike Trump more than they dislike Biden.

I am no fan of Donald Trump. But it is a very simple fact that economy was quite robust under Trump and it nosedived when Joe Biden became the president. Inflation is in double digit now and joblessness is at record high. And this is directly due to actions initiated by the incarnation of evil on earth when he came to power. One of the first things he did after taking over presidency was to cancel the Keystone XL pipeline. And then he imposed additional regulations on shale oil producers and banned fracking in federal lands. Crude oil prices immediately went up by 2x and this is the root cause of high inflation rates that are prevailing now.

No fan of Donald Trump? Good. It looks like most Americans think like you do. And gamblers know it, and hence the odds. As for repeating some anti-US nonsense taken from a banana republic's propaganda, like Biden is the incarnation of evil on earth and stuff, I don't think that's relevant here.

What's relevant is that Biden is very likely to win the elections, and those betting on him are going to win their bets. It's not guaranteed but very likely to happen.

What I think it is happening is that bettors realize there is a silent majority who does not attend to neither leftist events nor MAGA gatherings, the so called moderated voters, they are more pragmatic and do not go along with whatever of the things Trump says, political related or in relation to the charges he is facing.

That is why Republican candidates in the mid terms under performed, on the news you only see fanatics but those who stay calm in their homes also vote and they do it in a more rational manner, there is where the Biden's changes of winning come from, from normal people who may not agree on several policies of Biden but approve his economical advances.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 19, 2023, 10:56:14 PM

Quote from: beerlover on June 02, 2023, 04:59:05 AM

Quote from: Sithara007 on May 31, 2023, 01:09:28 AM

US politics seems to be about selecting the least dangerous option. At this point, Trump sounds like a better option when compared to Kamala or Biden. Kennedy is better option as well, but there is no chance that he will manage to win the Democrat primaries. Trump is not a perfect choice, but given the lack of other suitable options I guess a lot of people will be voting for him in 2024. One of his advantages is that he knows how to handle the economy. And Biden lacks that quality. Economy went on a downward spiral once he took over in 2020.

I wonder why would anyone think Trump handled economy well, you do realize it was his term when pandemic happened and he did basically nothing about it right? He just printed money and gave money to his friends under PPP as well and huge tax cuts to rich.

In any case, I would bet on Biden, you may not like to, and you may dislike him, and you may think he wasn't a better president, but majority of the nation believes Trump is such a terrible president that they rather see a senile old dude barely speaking to be up there on that post instead of Trump. You can deny this, you may think it is not true, but that's what happened on the last elections and I think it would be the case on the next one as well, people dislike Trump more than they dislike Biden.

I am no fan of Donald Trump. But it is a very simple fact that economy was quite robust under Trump and it nosedived when Joe Biden became the president. Inflation is in double digit now and joblessness is at record high. And this is directly due to actions initiated by the incarnation of evil on earth when he came to power. One of the first things he did after taking over presidency was to cancel the Keystone XL pipeline. And then he imposed additional regulations on shale oil producers and banned fracking in federal lands. Crude oil prices immediately went up by 2x and this is the root cause of high inflation rates that are prevailing now.

No fan of Donald Trump? Good. It looks like most Americans think like you do. And gamblers know it, and hence the odds. As for repeating some anti-US nonsense taken from a banana republic's propaganda, like Biden is the incarnation of evil on earth and stuff, I don't think that's relevant here.

What's relevant is that Biden is very likely to win the elections, and those betting on him are going to win their bets. It's not guaranteed but very likely to happen.

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Quote from: beerlover on June 02, 2023, 04:59:05 AM

Quote from: Sithara007 on May 31, 2023, 01:09:28 AM

US politics seems to be about selecting the least dangerous option. At this point, Trump sounds like a better option when compared to Kamala or Biden. Kennedy is better option as well, but there is no chance that he will manage to win the Democrat primaries. Trump is not a perfect choice, but given the lack of other suitable options I guess a lot of people will be voting for him in 2024. One of his advantages is that he knows how to handle the economy. And Biden lacks that quality. Economy went on a downward spiral once he took over in 2020.

I wonder why would anyone think Trump handled economy well, you do realize it was his term when pandemic happened and he did basically nothing about it right? He just printed money and gave money to his friends under PPP as well and huge tax cuts to rich.

In any case, I would bet on Biden, you may not like to, and you may dislike him, and you may think he wasn't a better president, but majority of the nation believes Trump is such a terrible president that they rather see a senile old dude barely speaking to be up there on that post instead of Trump. You can deny this, you may think it is not true, but that's what happened on the last elections and I think it would be the case on the next one as well, people dislike Trump more than they dislike Biden.

I am no fan of Donald Trump. But it is a very simple fact that economy was quite robust under Trump and it nosedived when Joe Biden became the president. Inflation is in double digit now and joblessness is at record high. And this is directly due to actions initiated by Biden when he came to power. One of the first things he did after taking over presidency was to cancel the Keystone XL pipeline. And then he imposed additional regulations on shale oil producers and banned fracking in federal lands. Crude oil prices immediately went up by 2x and this is the root cause of high inflation rates that are prevailing now.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on June 18, 2023, 11:28:36 AM

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Your point of view is very Interesting, of course I have Always said something, only those who live in the USA are the ones who can attest to what is the best situation that can arise in the country and how to handle it, for me this type of thing they are very Controversial, we Cannot deny that Trump is Very radical and in the USA there are very radical people in PRO-TRUMP, also the economies that Biden has applied are good, as for the pandemic there are many factors, all point out that the Chinese took the covid on purpose to improve its economy, personally I never believed that this was Because of the bat or the pangolin, unlike your thinking , I continue to maintain that Trump is and may be the Winner.

Yeah, I think the election will be extremely tight, but that eventually Trump will win. It will be controversial no matter what though, even if he wins or loses, there will be a lot of issues everywhere, controversies, etc. That's kinda his style apparently.

We'll have to wait and see what actually happens on election day, but it will be a long wait with lots of crazy debates.

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Quote from: beerlover on June 02, 2023, 04:59:05 AM

Quote from: Sithara007 on May 31, 2023, 01:09:28 AM

US politics seems to be about selecting the least dangerous option. At this point, Trump sounds like a better option when compared to Kamala or Biden. Kennedy is better option as well, but there is no chance that he will manage to win the Democrat primaries. Trump is not a perfect choice, but given the lack of other suitable options I guess a lot of people will be voting for him in 2024. One of his advantages is that he knows how to handle the economy. And Biden lacks that quality. Economy went on a downward spiral once he took over in 2020.

I wonder why would anyone think Trump handled economy well, you do realize it was his term when pandemic happened and he did basically nothing about it right? He just printed money and gave money to his friends under PPP as well and huge tax cuts to rich.

In any case, I would bet on Biden, you may not like to, and you may dislike him, and you may think he wasn't a better president, but majority of the nation believes Trump is such a terrible president that they rather see a senile old dude barely speaking to be up there on that post instead of Trump. You can deny this, you may think it is not true, but that's what happened on the last elections and I think it would be the case on the next one as well, people dislike Trump more than they dislike Biden.

Your point of view is very Interesting, of course I have Always said something, only those who live in the USA are the ones who can attest to what is the best situation that can arise in the country and how to handle it, for me this type of thing they are very Controversial, we Cannot deny that Trump is Very radical and in the USA there are very radical people in PRO-TRUMP, also the economies that Biden has applied are good, as for the pandemic there are many factors, all point out that the Chinese took the covid on purpose to improve its economy, personally I never believed that this was Because of the bat or the pangolin, unlike your thinking , I continue to maintain that Trump is and may be the Winner.

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Trump might win this election if he is still coming as rumour carried. Joe Biden is not strong enough to pilot the country affairs. He even fell down last week when he was in the gathering with other dignitaries. And the security men raised him up. US needs a very vibrate president in the country to do well for the citizens and the world at large. My speculation goes to Trump.

Should we make the comparison between the Trump administration with the Biden current tenure and his own administration, there will be a lot to discuss about because there are enough vast major difference in them both, what i will only advise is for Biden not to let the same mistake Trump did that made him victorious over Trump repeated itself on him to allow Trump win over him, there may be consideration on other candidates as well if the two of them aren't going to be the perfect representative to fit in the race and position of the United States president.

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